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Game Thread - PIT @ CLE (1 Viewer)

The Steelers OL has taken several steps back in pass protection from just a couple years ago, and as they try to address that by shuffling players, their run blocking may suffer. The Steelers defense is in transition now as well. Joey Porter was a force early this decade but his production dropped off last year and now he's playing for the Dolphins. They will be hard pressed to replace his production. LB Timmons would replace Porter's production but he fell behind in camp and this weekend probably isn't his day. The Browns don't have much of an answer for the DL woes, but the OL has been injected with a lot of talent.

I think the Steelers OL may stink this year, the Browns DL may stink this year, and the Steelers DL and Browns OL may be decent. It might be a wash when it is all said and done.

The bottom line is that this is a HUGE rivalry game, and unless one team is vastly superior to the other, the emotions and the familiarity between the two clubs can lead to anything happening. Forget what happened in 2004, 2005, or 2006. This is 2007, and the Steelers have enough question marks now to put this in doubt.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07204/803737-66.stm

This year's offense is a Big Ben production

Monday, July 23, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

There was more to those 23 interceptions than just bad throws by the quarterback last season. The pass protection broke down more often and the Steelers played from behind more often. Roethlisberger threw 469 passes last season, fourth most in club history and 75 percent more than the 268 he attempted in 2005. Obviously, there were more opportunities for interceptions and sacks and he was sacked twice as often last season (46) than the Super Bowl year (23).

"Our protection unit -- backs, line and receivers running hots -- that's a three-pronged attack when your quarterback's getting sacked," Arians said.

"The sacks can't be attributed strictly to the offensive line because so many times a receiver might have missed a hot while the line blocked all the guys. Or the quarterback might have missed it, or a running back might have missed a block. So, it's a three-pronged attack when you're talking about sacks."

Arians praised the blocking for the running game last season. Willie Parker rushed for 1,494 yards, third-most in team history. But Arians acknowledged that the offensive line overall did not play up to expectations.

"No, we were not as good as a group as the year before," Arians said.

He and others will try to fix that starting tomorrow when competition begins for three open jobs along that line. For all the changes done to the playbook, the Steelers will need better play from their line for Roethlisberger to write a better ending to things this season.
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Its important to point out that this just isn't the same Steeler team. They had a ton of problems on the OL a year ago. Ben got killed back there. And thy did nothing to address this beyond trying to reshuffle some players around. Even against the Browns poor defense last year, he only threw 3 TDs to 3 INTs in two games. I'd be looking for a game similar to the last meeting, a 24-20 Steelers win in Cleveland in week 11 of 2006. I expect a close game with a lot of emotion.

 
Interesting stat for today's game.

When the Steelers change coaches, they always lose their first game @ Cleveland

Joe Bach - 1952 - lost @ Browns 28-29 in week 8.

Walt Kiesling - 1954 - lost @ Browns 7-42 in week 12.

Raymond Parker - 1957 - lost @ Browns 0-24 in week 7.

Mike Nixon - 1965 - lost @ Browns 19-24 in week 4.

Bill Austin - 1966 - lost @ Browns 10-41 in week 5.

Chuck Noll - 1969 - lost @ Browns 31-42 in week 5.

Bill Cowher - 1992 - lost @ Browns 9-17 in week 6.

 
Its overcast today, seems like calm winds. Possibility of rain in the forecast. Wasn't there a stat that if you bet the under whenever there was inclimate weather, you did very well? No rain yet, but could be some.

 
BGP, how many different threads are you going to post that in (your first post in this thread) ? This is at least the third different thread I've read it the same post in from you. :thumbup:

As for the game: I'm interested to see if Pittsburgh opens it up as much as has been indicated, or if they grind it out on the ground.

for the Browns -- This is Cleveland's super bowl game for this year. They will be be fired up and ready to play. I don't doubt they've improved some since last year, but it still won't be enough IMO.

Steelers 30

Browns 17

 
Steelers have reshuffled their OL this year. A rare event in a new starting center, Sean Mahan, and a new RT, Willie Colon. All eyes will be on seeing if they can protect Ben Roethlisberger any better than a year ago. Let's also see if the running game suffers from these changes. Couple of unknowns here.

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
BGP, how many different threads are you going to post that in (your first post in this thread) ? This is at least the third different thread I've read it the same post in from you. :thumbup:
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I'll address this once and ignore these insipid personal attacks from here on. Anyone trying to turn this thread into "this bash BGP part 23523523" is a ####### loser. I mean, if that's all you have to offer this thread, your a waste of time to me.Now, enjoy the game. :wave:
 
Probowl Jeff Hartings from a few years ago > Sean Mahan > 2006 old decrepit Jeff Hartings

Colon is a nasty player who will maul people in the running blocking, I am curious to see how he handles speed rushers in Pass blocking though.

 
BGP said:
AhrnCityPahnder said:
BGP, how many different threads are you going to post that in (your first post in this thread) ? This is at least the third different thread I've read it the same post in from you. :lmao:
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I'll address this once and ignore these insipid personal attacks from here on. Anyone trying to turn this thread into "this bash BGP part 23523523" is a ####### loser. I mean, if that's all you have to offer this thread, your a waste of time to me.Now, enjoy the game. :wave:
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:thumbdown: :reported:
 
BGP said:
AhrnCityPahnder said:
BGP, how many different threads are you going to post that in (your first post in this thread) ? This is at least the third different thread I've read it the same post in from you. :thumbdown:
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I'll address this once and ignore these insipid personal attacks from here on. Anyone trying to turn this thread into "this bash BGP part 23523523" is a ####### loser. I mean, if that's all you have to offer this thread, your a waste of time to me.Now, enjoy the game. :wave:
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Whatever, Nancy. No one is attacking you. I'm wondering why you are posting the exact same thing in three different threads, that's all. If you don't want to answer me, that's fine, but don't start building another cross to climb up on in this thread too. :11:
 
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I'll fax you next week with a list of all the ways this has impacted my life. :lmao: Anyway, Can we turn the clock ahead 35 minutes? I'm like a kid on Xmas morning and Mom and Dad are still upstairs sleeping.
 
BGP said:
Interesting stat for today's game.When the Steelers change coaches, they always lose their first game @ ClevelandJoe Bach - 1952 - lost @ Browns 28-29 in week 8.Walt Kiesling - 1954 - lost @ Browns 7-42 in week 12.Raymond Parker - 1957 - lost @ Browns 0-24 in week 7.Mike Nixon - 1965 - lost @ Browns 19-24 in week 4.Bill Austin - 1966 - lost @ Browns 10-41 in week 5.Chuck Noll - 1969 - lost @ Browns 31-42 in week 5.Bill Cowher - 1992 - lost @ Browns 9-17 in week 6.
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And this is relevant to today's game...HOW? :lmao:Unless you're hoping for the trend to continue, that fact and $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee at your local quickie-mart.
 
BGP said:
Interesting stat for today's game.

When the Steelers change coaches, they always lose their first game @ Cleveland

Joe Bach - 1952 - lost @ Browns 28-29 in week 8.

Walt Kiesling - 1954 - lost @ Browns 7-42 in week 12.

Raymond Parker - 1957 - lost @ Browns 0-24 in week 7.

Mike Nixon - 1965 - lost @ Browns 19-24 in week 4.

Bill Austin - 1966 - lost @ Browns 10-41 in week 5.

Chuck Noll - 1969 - lost @ Browns 31-42 in week 5.

Bill Cowher - 1992 - lost @ Browns 9-17 in week 6.
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Already posted here: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7297288
 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
Anyway, Can we turn the clock ahead 35 minutes? I'm like a kid on Xmas morning and Mom and Dad are still upstairs sleeping.
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:goodposting: I'm ready to go!!I think this game may be closer than most think. My guess is 20-17, with it going either way. My heart says Browns, but my head says Steelers.Let's just get the game going and find out! :popcorn:
 
lol @ pointing out changes on Pitts line, when the Browns only have Fraley in the same spot from last year.

 
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