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Sweet Love
IBL Representative
I won him in a league where I can start 4 RBs (as my RB4)...I wish I started him today!
I think he will do just fine this year and will turn out to be a nice sleeper (1200 yards rushing, 5-6 TDs). He has an up and coming team, little competition and a team that frankly, really needs him right now. He always was good, but the injuries were so commonplace, that we tended to forget he had talent. You are correct in that the key is he remain healthy. I think with Fatdale as an occasional help (not RBBC), he will stay less dinged than in the past and will surprise a lot of people.
I think he will do just fine this year and will turn out to be a nice sleeper (1200 yards rushing, 5-6 TDs). He has an up and coming team, little competition and a team that frankly, really needs him right now. He always was good, but the injuries were so commonplace, that we tended to forget he had talent. You are correct in that the key is he remain healthy. I think with Fatdale as an occasional help (not RBBC), he will stay less dinged than in the past and will surprise a lot of people.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
some random thoughts on this guy (as i do live in Jax, i had a first hand view of his performance today)
- Doesnt he have a history of injury problems? If so, he will have to avoid those this year if he is to get a significant workload (obviously)
- The Jax defense is built to clog the middle and make it tough to run up the middle. This is exactly the type of running that LenDale is built to do. Brown is built to get outside and outrun the LBs to the corner.
- Granted, Brown gashed the Jags inside and out today
- It seemed that despite the huge day from Brown, LenDale still was the main GL RB
- The Vick theory seems to be in effect with the Titans (sorry to bring up the Felon in this thread). Meaning that teams are very focused on Young and are therefore leaving a lot of room for the RBs to roam free
- It will be interesting to see if Fisher decides to start him next week
- Doesnt he have a history of injury problems? If so, he will have to avoid those this year if he is to get a significant workload (obviously)
- The Jax defense is built to clog the middle and make it tough to run up the middle. This is exactly the type of running that LenDale is built to do. Brown is built to get outside and outrun the LBs to the corner.
- Granted, Brown gashed the Jags inside and out today
- It seemed that despite the huge day from Brown, LenDale still was the main GL RB
- The Vick theory seems to be in effect with the Titans (sorry to bring up the Felon in this thread). Meaning that teams are very focused on Young and are therefore leaving a lot of room for the RBs to roam free
- It will be interesting to see if Fisher decides to start him next week
BaBastage
Footballguy
I'd take the risk on adding him as RB4 easily. Unlikely he'll put up numbers like this every week, but you know he's just earned himself significant playing time in the next 4-5 games...
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
That's exactly what I was thinking...now there are few leagues that allow 4 RBs to start in a given week, but if you are in a 16 team league (or more) and own him, you just may have found some gold. A few weeks in a feautured role could help a team start 4-0 vs. 2-2.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Added him as an RB4 today. He could move up though with continued success. Great pickup for those that went WR heavy in their drafts......like me.
Possum
Footballguy
not sure about the sell high angle - I realize he's not the most durable guy, but he's the most talented RB the Titans have. He's also playing for a contract - think that might motivate him to get over the hump with some of the little injuries that might have held him out in previous years. If that happens, he could turn into a major late round steal.
Penguin
Footballguy
I'd be interested to hear from homers that were watching the game. Did he take over for White because Lendell was ineffective or were they already splitting carries and he was just the hot hand? When I get a chance I'm going to look at the game thread in here and the play by play over at NFL.com
thecardiackid
Footballguy
what he said...
redman
Footballguy
It's too early to sell high. People aren't buying it.
As for his prospects, I like him. It's all about Vince Young. That's not a good overall offense and yet Travis Henry put up big numbers last year. Young opens up running lanes, and Brown, whatever else he is, is explosive. That's a good combo.
As for his prospects, I like him. It's all about Vince Young. That's not a good overall offense and yet Travis Henry put up big numbers last year. Young opens up running lanes, and Brown, whatever else he is, is explosive. That's a good combo.
womb
Footballguy
However you want to put the sarcasm, the blemish and downright pun on him; all he did was to run all over what is accepted to be a solid run defense as a nonstarter. One-week wonder my **s... I saw what Maroney did today, what Steven Jackson did today, what LJ did today, how Shaun is doing against Tampa, MJD, Fred Taylor duo... Even if you take away the 42 yard gallop (which to most of us should mean breakaway speed) he averaged 8.5 ypc at a game that was 13-10 till the end (not like he ever faced 2nd team on a blow-out). That is not luck. Probably very hard to repeat, but promising.
It is just plain dumb to write him off at this point. If you are going to trade him away, fine. But the performance does not deserve most of these Mr Know It All attitude One Week Wonder comments.
It is just plain dumb to write him off at this point. If you are going to trade him away, fine. But the performance does not deserve most of these Mr Know It All attitude One Week Wonder comments.
BaBastage
Footballguy
I'd sit tight, personally.
fatness
Footballguy
Much the same as Vick opened up running lanes for the Falcons. Young is , um, young, and if he can progress into being a better passer (which I think he has a decent chance of doing) the Titans are going to have a hell of an offense if they ever get any WR's.
ScoobyDoo
Footballguy
That's what I said a couple of years ago. Then he got hurt, and hurt again, and hurt again, and hurt again. Defenders of Chris Brown should learn from the past and sell high.
enfuego
Footballguy
Here's the fact...The Titans have a good O line that returned all starters from last year and if Brown can stay healthy, he will post some good games. Problem is, Fisher still favors the LW at this point...Or maybe better put, seems to give him every opportunity to win the majority of carries.The bigger question is, WHAT CAN BROWN DO FOR YOU?
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Slingblade
Footballguy
Yeah, Fisher will still give LenDale his carries. It really is a great combo. Pound the D with LenDale then throw in a change up with Brown. Brilliant.
NHT-SPOILER
Footballguy
I just got done cutting Fred Taylor for Brown in one of my leagues (other rbs are s. alexander, r. bush, edge).
I agree he has been hurt in the past, but in my case so has Taylor and Taylor looked horrible!!!!!
U don't just get lucky against a stout run def like jAX.
I agree he has been hurt in the past, but in my case so has Taylor and Taylor looked horrible!!!!!
U don't just get lucky against a stout run def like jAX.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Ron Dayne could have put up 150 on the Jags D today. I haven't watched the Tivo yet but watching it live it appears that Marcus Stroud's injury is more serious than first reported as he wasn't able to hold the point. Also, Brown has a history of good games against the Jags. I'd sell high if you can, but other than that I'd need to see another couple of weeks before I was sold on him.
Huge Titans fan here..................So let's get this straight for those of you who didnt see the game and just see the stats.
C. Brown was by far the best Titans RB today. Lendale started the game and didnt do horrible but also didnt look very explosive. He was generally hitting the nice holes but wasnt getting even close to the yards after contact as Brown. HE tried to bounce far to many runs and ended up running far too much horizontally rather than hitting the hole. The worst one was inside the 5 yard line where he fumbled the ball. On Identical stretch plays with similarly good blocking Lendale was getting 4 yards and C. Brown was breaking 10 yards on literally every carry. HE was making people miss. he was breaking tackles. IT was very impressive.
Physically C. Brown looks huge. The talk in Titans camp has been how C. Brown can be mistaken for Eddie George right now. His Upper Body is way bigger than it was a couple of years ago.
In Summation, The Titans this year will be a lot like the Titans in the mid-late 90's under a developing Mcnair. This is Fisherball reincarnated. Our defense is greatly improved and our offense will revolve around IMO a top 3 OL in the league and running the ball close to 40 times a game. We will not make the mistake the Saints made against the Colts and abondon the run next week.
So if you believe the following:
1. The titans will have a great rushing attack this year
2. C. Brown is the best Titan's RB
Then I would think twice about thinking your "selling high" on Brown when in reality your doing what I like to call "selling yourself short".
C. Brown was by far the best Titans RB today. Lendale started the game and didnt do horrible but also didnt look very explosive. He was generally hitting the nice holes but wasnt getting even close to the yards after contact as Brown. HE tried to bounce far to many runs and ended up running far too much horizontally rather than hitting the hole. The worst one was inside the 5 yard line where he fumbled the ball. On Identical stretch plays with similarly good blocking Lendale was getting 4 yards and C. Brown was breaking 10 yards on literally every carry. HE was making people miss. he was breaking tackles. IT was very impressive.
Physically C. Brown looks huge. The talk in Titans camp has been how C. Brown can be mistaken for Eddie George right now. His Upper Body is way bigger than it was a couple of years ago.
In Summation, The Titans this year will be a lot like the Titans in the mid-late 90's under a developing Mcnair. This is Fisherball reincarnated. Our defense is greatly improved and our offense will revolve around IMO a top 3 OL in the league and running the ball close to 40 times a game. We will not make the mistake the Saints made against the Colts and abondon the run next week.
So if you believe the following:
1. The titans will have a great rushing attack this year
2. C. Brown is the best Titan's RB
Then I would think twice about thinking your "selling high" on Brown when in reality your doing what I like to call "selling yourself short".
Banger
Footballguy
Good post. Brown did it all preseason as well where he had the 7th most yardss with a 5.3 ypc.
His runs looked a lot like Travis Henry last year, good pace, hitting the first read hard and making any cuts at the 2nd level. He'll get dinged up eventually, but if you need him, you might better off riding him than selling him, because the TItans are going to try to run 35-40 times a game every game.
Warehouse Nasty
Footballguy
People don't fully understand the effect Vince has on the opposing team's defense. If one of these guys (Brown/White) gets most the carries, they'll be a great RB2 in fantasy. I drafted them both in the staff-MB best ball format knowing that one of them should put up good stats each week. I still think White is the better long-term option just because Brown hasn't proven he can stay healthy for any period of time. But, when he plays, Brown is much better than people give him credit for.The next time White looks better than Brown will be the first time it's happened. It's not impossible, but all the evidence to date suggests that Brown is simply the better back. If that trend continues the bulk of the carries will shift towards Brown. Injuries are a legit concern with Brown, but White outplaying him seems to be wishful thinking.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
I'll take 18 carries for 175 yards any week! If he keeps this up, he'll get more of the split. For his own productivity, due to history of injury, he'll probably never get much more than two thirds of the snaps. Who cares, though? It's yards and touchdowns that matter in fantasy football. As long as he's eating up yards, don't worry about the number of carries. He does look quite a bit bigger than in previous years. That in itself may or may not reduce the likelihood of injury. What impressed me was how he "used" his newfound strength to shed would-be tacklers from his legs, push them off him with his arms, and stiff-arm them. It looks like he's added new skills. Before it was just "run fast" but he would get dropped as soon as someone touched him. I don't know if his touchdowns will increase. I'm a homer and I know he has a history of not being able to convert 3rd and short, 4th and short, etc. Lenwhale was supposed to solve that problem...but failed on ample red zone opportunities today. I agree with the previous poster that both runners benefited from great OL play (which should be good all season) and both runners benefitted from having VY's running skills in the Jags heads. Having said that, Brown got 175 yards. Lendale did his job and bruised some defenders. But Brown bounced off them, stiff-armed them, juked them out of their jock straps then...only as a last resort...ran over them.As a Titans fan, I love to see this. As a fantasy player though...and I really hate to say it...sell high. Teams will not be surprised by him. Look for teams to pay more attention to C.Brown and for VY's numbers (both passing and rushing) to improve.abrecher said:
Verbal Kint
Footballguy
Didn't Lendale cough up a fumble near the gl today? That coupled with Brown's romp might be enough to send him to the bench.
2 Minute Drill w your mom
Footballguy
Festivus said:
Lendale "lard###" White doesn't have half the talent that Christina Brown does. Christina's injury history is the biggest concern with her though.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
I got him late in a 16 team league, and Im loving this turn of events. As you said, in larger leagues, this guy could be a HUGE help and really give your team an advantage if you got him late. Alot of people are saying sell high, but Im not so sure I agree. Brown is the more explosive and talented of the two RB's in Tenn, and as long as Young is behind center there will be lanes to run in. Somebody is gonna get those yards, and I dont think Lendale is the guy to do it. Even if he is, today's performance by Brown has got to win him some favoritism. I plan on holding onto him and riding til the wheels fall offSweet Love said:
It wasn't enough to send him to the bench today -- the two RBs split carries just about 50-50 even after the fumble. So why would it be enough to send him to the bench next week?
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Based on what? Your solid analysis and expertise? Granted, the guy is historically ingury prone - but he has shown he can be a decent RB.Ivanhoe said:
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
We have a winner.womb said:
-Crippler-
Footballguy
Ivanhoe said:
bocksheesh
Footballguy
When Chris Brown is "right" (i.e. healthy) he can be a tremendously explosive runner.
The best indicator that this may be a different year for Brown and that he may be in store for a solid season is his physique. That dude is jacked. I watched the Titans' Week 3 preseason game and Eddie George, who was commentating, couldn't stop raving about how much work Brown put in in the weightroom this summer and how good he looked.
I think we're seeing a different Chris Brown this season.
The best indicator that this may be a different year for Brown and that he may be in store for a solid season is his physique. That dude is jacked. I watched the Titans' Week 3 preseason game and Eddie George, who was commentating, couldn't stop raving about how much work Brown put in in the weightroom this summer and how good he looked.
I think we're seeing a different Chris Brown this season.
bocksheesh
Footballguy
Also kids, remember that Chris Brown tore up the Jacksonville Defense - one of the stronger run defenses in the league. It wasn't like he went off against the Cleveland Browns.
That was a real deal performance.
That was a real deal performance.
Tbone
Shrinkage
Let's see...First QuarterIvanhoe said:
1-10-TEN 20 (3:19) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 25 for 5 yards (52-D.Smith).
2-5-TEN 25 (2:44) 29-C.Brown left end to TEN 30 for 5 yards (53-P.Thomas).
2-2-TEN 38 (1:20) (Shotgun) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 42 for 4 yards (99-M.Stroud).
Second Quarter
1-10-JAC 33 (14:24) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 9 for 24 yards (54-M.Peterson; 26-S.Knight).
2-10-TEN 37 (4:03) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 21 for 42 yards (29-B.Williams).
1-10-JAC 21 (3:19) (Shotgun) 10-V.Young pass short middle to 29-C.Brown to JAX 18 for 3 yards (54-M.Peterson).
3-1-JAC 12 (2:00) 29-C.Brown left end to JAX 10 for 2 yards (29-B.Williams).
1-10-JAC 10 (1:26) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 7 for 3 yards (54-M.Peterson).
Third Quarter
1-5-TEN 26 (7:17) 29-C.Brown left end to TEN 30 for 4 yards (29-B.Williams).
2-1-TEN 30 (6:38) 29-C.Brown left end to TEN 32 for 2 yards (98-J.Henderson).
1-10-JAC 48 (5:38) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 34 for 14 yards (43-G.Sensabaugh).
1-10-JAC 34 (5:00) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 21 for 13 yards (25-R.Nelson).
2-4-JAC 4 (1:43) (Shotgun) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 2 for 2 yards (93-B.McCray).
(Too bad Young vultured that 2 yard TD or his numbers would have been even more interesting today.)
Fourth Quarter
1-10-TEN 8 (11:57) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 16 for 8 yards (53-P.Thomas).
2-2-TEN 16 (11:23) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 27 for 11 yards (26-S.Knight).
1-10-TEN 27 (10:40) (Shotgun) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 32 for 5 yards (52-D.Smith).
1-10-TEN 28 (7:46) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 36 for 8 yards (21-T.Cousin).
2-2-TEN 36 (7:09) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 49 for 13 yards (52-D.Smith).
1-10-TEN 27 (2:46) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 34 for 7 yards (99-M.Stroud).
2-4-TEN 46 (1:54) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 49 for 3 yards (99-M.Stroud).
Seemed to get stronger as the game wore on. Check out those fourth quarter number. Also notice how many were up the middle. All this against a very respectable Jacksonville Defense. This guy's tough at HT: 6-3, WT: 219, 26 years old and not a lot of tread on the tires. Just food for thought.
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nygiants56
Footballguy
could be a big year for him..it just might finally be the time for him to play all 16 games..Rob't Smith finally put things together in his final year...maybe Brown has a similar season?
4 - Digit Shark
Footballguy
I just saw a TENN highlight and Brown does look a lot thicker this year. I hope he wasn't working out with Rodney Harrison in the offseason. I can't afford a 4 game suspension because I may need him to start with Caddy going down.
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