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UPDATED: Rams Pace is out for the season according to Adam Schefter (1 Viewer)

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Report: Rams T Pace could miss season

FoxSports' Jay Glazer reports that Orlando Pace could miss the season.

It would be a devastating blow to an offensive line that is already missing last year's backup Todd Steussie until November. Marc Bulger, Torry Holt, and Steven Jackson owners can only hope this news doesn't prove true. Sep. 10 - 8:31 am et

Source: Profootballtalk.com

 
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It's worse news for Bulger owners as SJax did well without Pace last year but Bulger got pounded.
Was part of the reason SJax had so many pass dumpoff targets last year related to Pace's absence from the pass protection? Not sure how SJax's targets trended with the Pace injury last year, but I do seem to remember the effects it had on Holt with the deeper routes.Of course, it's better for the O as a whole if Pace is OK ... hope we get some positive news later today ...
 
This is terrible news for Rams offensive players. As someone already mentioned, Todd Steussie was already lost so their depth at tackle is tenuous already.

 
I just checked.... Pace was lost on Nov 12th 2006... Bulgers #s didn't dip that much and I believe that poster who said SJaxs dump offs went way up afterwards... so I'm not too worried. Plus StL has a decent sch this yr.

 
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I just checked.... Pace was lost on Nov 12th 2006... Bulgers #s didn't dip that much and I believe that poster who said SJaxs dump offs went way up afterwards... so I'm not too worried. Plus StL has a decent sch this yr.
That's true but again, Steussie was there as a better-than-average fill in.
 
I just checked.... Pace was lost on Nov 12th 2006... Bulgers #s didn't dip that much and I believe that poster who said SJaxs dump offs went way up afterwards... so I'm not too worried. Plus StL has a decent sch this yr.
That's true but again, Steussie was there as a better-than-average fill in.
Thanks... you know a lot more about the Rams O-Line than I do... so who will be filling in this yr?
 
I think St. Louis needs to look at tapes from their last 8 games last year in order to see how to put points on the board without Pace and how to use SJAX properly.

I'll say it again, Bulger will not win them games this year. A heavy dose of SJAX will. 1 rushing attempt in the 4th quarter when down only 4 points is NOT enough.

 
Jason Wood said:
This is terrible news for Rams offensive players. As someone already mentioned, Todd Steussie was already lost so their depth at tackle is tenuous already.
Pretty much puts the kibash on the Isaac Bruce Love we were feeling, huh?
 
Jason Wood said:
This is terrible news for Rams offensive players. As someone already mentioned, Todd Steussie was already lost so their depth at tackle is tenuous already.
Pretty much puts the kibash on the Isaac Bruce Love we were feeling, huh?
Along with the fact that Holt looks near 100%, he should put up about the same numbers as last year.
 
I think St. Louis needs to look at tapes from their last 8 games last year in order to see how to put points on the board without Pace and how to use SJAX properly.I'll say it again, Bulger will not win them games this year. A heavy dose of SJAX will. 1 rushing attempt in the 4th quarter when down only 4 points is NOT enough.
Not sure how u say Bulger will lose games when SJax clearly lost this game for them with his 2 fumbles. They stopped running it with him as much after the fumbles and got behind in score. Don't get me wrong I think SJax is a beast and is a KEY talent to this team but to say Bulger won't win games for them doesn't have any merit in my book. Bulger IS an elite QB and although he is off sometimes the 2nd half was lights out for the Rams because Pace was gone. The second half Bulger saw much more pressure and the O-Line was dominated. I didn't care much for some of the playcalling overall as well, but I think this defense will lose games for them too. The defense didn't look bad overall but I felt Delhomme wasn't being pressured enough and Foster/D Will ran all over them at times. If your looking for somebody to blame for this game blame Jackson, the playcalling, or the defense, not Bulger.
 
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Jason Wood said:
This is terrible news for Rams offensive players. As someone already mentioned, Todd Steussie was already lost so their depth at tackle is tenuous already.
Pretty much puts the kibash on the Isaac Bruce Love we were feeling, huh?
:confused:The Rams are still going to be a throwing team, that's their identity. Presuming the defense is mediocre, at best, there's no reason to think Bruce won't see a ton of targets just as he did a year ago.
 
I think St. Louis needs to look at tapes from their last 8 games last year in order to see how to put points on the board without Pace and how to use SJAX properly.I'll say it again, Bulger will not win them games this year. A heavy dose of SJAX will. 1 rushing attempt in the 4th quarter when down only 4 points is NOT enough.
Not sure how u say Bulger will lose games when SJax clearly lost this game for them with his 2 fumbles. They stopped running it with him as much after the fumbles and got behind in score. Don't get me wrong I think SJax is a beast and is a KEY talent to this team but to say Bulger won't win games for them doesn't have any merit in my book. Bulger IS an elite QB and although he is off sometimes the 2nd half was lights out for the Rams because Pace was gone. The second half Bulger saw much more pressure and the O-Line was dominated. I didn't care much for some of the playcalling overall as well, but I think this defense will lose games for them too. The defense didn't look bad overall but I felt Delhomme wasn't being pressured enough and Foster/D Will ran all over them at times. If your looking for somebody to blame for this game blame Jackson, the playcalling, or the defense, not Bulger.
Fumbles or not, if your stud RB only gets 1 carry in the 4th quarter...when the game was close for most of it, the blame lies in the play calling. Studs like S Jax do their best work in the 4th quarter when the defense wears down.
 
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I think St. Louis needs to look at tapes from their last 8 games last year in order to see how to put points on the board without Pace and how to use SJAX properly.I'll say it again, Bulger will not win them games this year. A heavy dose of SJAX will. 1 rushing attempt in the 4th quarter when down only 4 points is NOT enough.
Not sure how u say Bulger will lose games when SJax clearly lost this game for them with his 2 fumbles. They stopped running it with him as much after the fumbles and got behind in score. Don't get me wrong I think SJax is a beast and is a KEY talent to this team but to say Bulger won't win games for them doesn't have any merit in my book. Bulger IS an elite QB and although he is off sometimes the 2nd half was lights out for the Rams because Pace was gone. The second half Bulger saw much more pressure and the O-Line was dominated. I didn't care much for some of the playcalling overall as well, but I think this defense will lose games for them too. The defense didn't look bad overall but I felt Delhomme wasn't being pressured enough and Foster/D Will ran all over them at times. If your looking for somebody to blame for this game blame Jackson, the playcalling, or the defense, not Bulger.
Fumbles or not, if your stud RB only gets 1 carry in the 4th quarter...when the game was close for most of it, the blame lies in the play calling. Studs like S Jax do their best work in the 4th quarter when the defense wears down.
Sure blame the playcalling I don't disagree with that, all I said is it was Bulger didn't lose this game for them.
 
I'd say that there is some cause for concern, but you all might want to wait for the results of Pace's MRI. before you go too far in conjecturing about his loss for the season.

 
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Looks like it's unofficially official.

Orlando Pace-T-Rams Sep. 10 - 4:39 pm et

Rams LT Orlando Pace will miss the season with a torn right labrum, according to NFL Network's Adam Schefter.

The Rams' best bet now is to try Alex Barron, a strong pass protector, on the blind side and move Milford Brown to the first unit at right tackle. Pace, 32, will have missed 23 of a possible 32 games when he enters next season.

Related: Milford Brown, Alex Barron

 
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As soon as a link is avail I will get one for you guys, rotoworld likes to post things based off TV reports...we wait to get links..so as soon as I have one, I will get it up......but I trust Schefter, just not Rotoworld.

 
As soon as a link is avail I will get one for you guys, rotoworld likes to post things based off TV reports...we wait to get links..so as soon as I have one, I will get it up......but I trust Schefter, just not Rotoworld.
Yeah, I guess it could be jumping the gun, but I also trust Adam Schefter. I went to the official rams site and nothing is official regarding Pace at their site. I also checked ESPN, the St. Louis Post Dispatch and St. Louis Today and nothing yet.
 
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September 10, 2007, 17:35

Rams :: OL

Rams Lose LT Pace For Season

ESPN - [Full Article]

St. Louis Rams LT Orlando Pace tore the labrum and rotator cuff in his right shoulder in the season opener Sunday and will be sidelined for the rest of the season. An MRI exam Monday revealed the damage to Pace, a seven-time Pro Bowl player who was the first overall pick of the 1997 draft. Pace was injured on the first play after the two-minute warning while pass-blocking against the Panthers' Julius Peppers, minor jostling that didn't appear out of the ordinary.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3013232

 
This is terrible news for Rams offensive players. As someone already mentioned, Todd Steussie was already lost so their depth at tackle is tenuous already.
Pretty much puts the kibash on the Isaac Bruce Love we were feeling, huh?
:no:The Rams are still going to be a throwing team, that's their identity. Presuming the defense is mediocre, at best, there's no reason to think Bruce won't see a ton of targets just as he did a year ago.
Assuming he has the time to throw. I think you have to downgrade all of the Rams' skill position players right now. Jackson and Holt will still be viable given their status in the offense. But Bruce isn't someone very trustworthy right now. The only Ram WR I'd trust to be productive is Holt because he's the clear No. 1 in the passing game. Bennett and McMichael shouldn't be started in any leagues at the present time in my opinion. As far as Bulger, I'd start him only if I didn't have a strong backup. If I had a good QB2 I'd go in that direction until we see how the Rams and Bulger adjust to Pace's absence.
 
This is terrible news for Rams offensive players. As someone already mentioned, Todd Steussie was already lost so their depth at tackle is tenuous already.
Pretty much puts the kibash on the Isaac Bruce Love we were feeling, huh?
:confused:The Rams are still going to be a throwing team, that's their identity. Presuming the defense is mediocre, at best, there's no reason to think Bruce won't see a ton of targets just as he did a year ago.
Assuming he has the time to throw. I think you have to downgrade all of the Rams' skill position players right now. Jackson and Holt will still be viable given their status in the offense. But Bruce isn't someone very trustworthy right now. The only Ram WR I'd trust to be productive is Holt because he's the clear No. 1 in the passing game. Bennett and McMichael shouldn't be started in any leagues at the present time in my opinion. As far as Bulger, I'd start him only if I didn't have a strong backup. If I had a good QB2 I'd go in that direction until we see how the Rams and Bulger adjust to Pace's absence.
I have Kitna as Bulgers backup....but i think i`ll play best match ups all season....the Rams will just have to stick a TE in at the left side to help out the LT.
 
This is very bad for all thing associated with the Rams. Downgrade everyone who isnt an IDP tackle man.

*By pure luck, I own zero Rams in any league.

 
If I owned any player on the STL offense Id be very worried right now
Umm didnt Pace get hurt last year? And didnt the Rams improve in the 2nd half last year?
He will have missed 23 of the last 32 games when next season starts.
But did the Rams improve in the 2nd half last year?
It's sounds like you're trying to spin this into being a good thing. Improved or not last year, Pace going out all year with the backup hurt as well should take a toll on the fantasy production of the Rams.
 
Was an SJax+Bulger owner last year and #### a brick after Pace went down considering they weren't producing too much. Their production actually went way up after, so I wouldn't be worried.

 
If I owned any player on the STL offense Id be very worried right now
Umm didnt Pace get hurt last year? And didnt the Rams improve in the 2nd half last year?
He will have missed 23 of the last 32 games when next season starts.
But did the Rams improve in the 2nd half last year?
It's sounds like you're trying to spin this into being a good thing. Improved or not last year, Pace going out all year with the backup hurt as well should take a toll on the fantasy production of the Rams.
Not really, I was mainly trying to figure out what that stat had to do with the question. But also if they did in fact improve? Their passing schedule is still cake, so maybe you downgrade, but by how much?With that said, the likelihood of a Bulger injury has increased greatly, which is scary considering his injury history.
 
With that said, the likelihood of a Bulger injury has increased greatly, which is scary considering his injury history.
I agree completely. He was getting hit pretty hard. If he goes down, it's a no brainer the WR's suffer, but I think SJax takes a very large hit as well. Anyways, that's just speculation that Bulger gets hurt...
 
youre just gonna have to play the matchups. Last year, the middle part of the Rams schedule was brutal, so during that stretch they didnt do much. But over about the last 5 or 6 games when they had great matchups, the O, specifically Jackson, really stepped up. But like its been said, they had a decent backup in Steussie. Steussie is out now as well, and their shifting their line around. I think Incognito has been out as well. Not entirely sure about that. But owners of Rams players will just have to hold their breath a little and hope for the best. Its never good losing a guy like Pace. So much for the Rams making a playoff push this year. This is probably positive news for owners of Alexander, Gore and Edge because I dont see the Rams' O being nearly as efficient and controlling the ball as much without Pace.

 
The big concern is that Stuessie and Pace are out, not just Pace being out. Instead of having a reliable veteran backing Pace like in 06, they will be throwing out a guy who has never played NFL ball before.

 
The big concern is that Stuessie and Pace are out, not just Pace being out. Instead of having a reliable veteran backing Pace like in 06, they will be throwing out a guy who has never played NFL ball before.
P.Manning seems to be doing fine without his anchor at L T.
 
The big concern is that Stuessie and Pace are out, not just Pace being out. Instead of having a reliable veteran backing Pace like in 06, they will be throwing out a guy who has never played NFL ball before.
P.Manning seems to be doing fine without his anchor at L T.
The Colts drafted Tony Ugoh with the 42nd overall pick. Coming out of Arkansas, he was considered one of the better OL prospects of the 07 class. Adam Goldberg was an undrafted free agent out of Wyoming. It might not be a fair comparison of talent.
 
The big concern is that Stuessie and Pace are out, not just Pace being out. Instead of having a reliable veteran backing Pace like in 06, they will be throwing out a guy who has never played NFL ball before.
P.Manning seems to be doing fine without his anchor at L T.
The Colts drafted Tony Ugoh with the 42nd overall pick. Coming out of Arkansas, he was considered one of the better OL prospects of the 07 class. Adam Goldberg was an undrafted free agent out of Wyoming. It might not be a fair comparison of talent.
Linehan said the coaching staff hadn't decided how to fill the void. The top option would be shifting the other tackle, 2005 first-rounder Alex Barron, to the left side to protect quarterback Marc Bulger's blind side.Barron has indicated his preference for that side, his college position, several times in the past, although Linehan added "it's not set in stone." Olson considers Barron, who has struggled with false starts throughout his career, as one of the most athletic right tackles in the NFL."That was probably the reason Alex was drafted, to eventually take over for Orlando," Olson said. "If we do decide to make that move, we feel confident that Alex can handle the change."Both Linehan and Olson said they'll stick with whatever backup plan they settle on to avoid further strain on a young line. Center Brett Romberg is in his first year as a starter, guard Richie Incognito is in his second and guard Mark Setterstrom, a seventh-rounder last year, made his seventh career start in the opener.Complicating matters, Incognito has a high ankle sprain that kept him out of the opener, and he'll likely miss Sunday's game against the 49ers.Last year, the Rams plugged in Todd Steussie when Pace missed Game 4, a 41-34 victory over the Lions. Adam Goldberg started Game 10, the week after Pace's triceps injury, and struggled, and Steussie started the rest of the season after moving from left guard.The Rams can't fall back on Steussie, 36, for at least a few months this time around after he broke his foot in the final preseason game. Steussie was released with an injury settlement and can't re-sign with the team until November, and in any case won't be ready until the second half of the schedule.Somehow, the Rams had a better record without Pace (5-3) than with him (3-5) last year."Everyone's got to pick their games up," Olson said. "Shoot, the players understand that."Before last season, Pace had been to seven straight Pro Bowls. And until last season he had been durable, missing six games in 2002 with calf and hamstring injuries, but starting every game in the other six seasons.Goldberg, who made two starts in 2006, replaced Pace in Sunday's 27-13 loss to Carolina, and his play was judged by Linehan as "fine." The Rams allowed one sack, but the offense struggled without the anchor of a young line, managing 16 first downs and 238 yards total offense.
 
Update: Barron at LT, Brown at RT

By Jim Thomas

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

09/12/2007

It looks like Alex Barron will be the Rams' left offensive tackle.

The Rams opened practice Wednesday with Barron at left tackle, Claude Terrell at right guard, and Milford Brown at right tackle with the first unit.

Adam Goldberg, who replaced the injured Orlando Pace in Sunday's season opener against Carolina, was working with the second unit.

Wide receiver Drew Bennett, who missed the Carolina game with a quad injury, was practicing.

Offensive guard Richie Incognito (ankle) and linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa (ankle) were not.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...AB?OpenDocument
 

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