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Healthy Kevin Jones = Top FF producer? (1 Viewer)
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Chaka
Footballguy
I anticipate about 300+ yards and 4 TDs per game.
ETA: Apologies for being a wise ###. KJ is tough to gauge this season. He could return to a time share situation or come in as the undisputed #1 if TB stinks up the place (like I expect). So that makes KJ's potential numbers highly variable.
If he is the undisputed #1 RB when he comes back I would expect 100-120 yards/game and maybe 0.7 TDs per game. If it's a time share...I cannot even speculate where he will end up.
ETA: Apologies for being a wise ###. KJ is tough to gauge this season. He could return to a time share situation or come in as the undisputed #1 if TB stinks up the place (like I expect). So that makes KJ's potential numbers highly variable.
If he is the undisputed #1 RB when he comes back I would expect 100-120 yards/game and maybe 0.7 TDs per game. If it's a time share...I cannot even speculate where he will end up.
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OU#1
Footballguy
Maybe he could produce 50-60% of what Faulk produced in that offense?
I'm not sure what that is in fantasy points, but I'm only hoping for bye week replacement and potential trade value out of KJ this year.
You really can't expect more from a guy that could of easily been on the PUP list and continues to battle injuries throughout his career.
I'm not sure what that is in fantasy points, but I'm only hoping for bye week replacement and potential trade value out of KJ this year.
You really can't expect more from a guy that could of easily been on the PUP list and continues to battle injuries throughout his career.
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
You don't think Bell would get more carries than Shawn Bryson?
Chaka
Footballguy
Beyond fully healthy, and it seems like the Lions are willing to wait for that to be the case, it depends on the situation he returns to. Is Tatum going to make a case for playing time even after KJ returns?Give it a few weeks to unfold.
SSOG
Moderator
I don't think Bell is going to touch KJ's goal-line touches, and I don't think Bell is going to touch KJ's receptions. He's just too inept at both tasks to prove a serious threat in either capacity. Bell might eat into KJ's carries between the 20s, but on the other hand, I would expect KJ's yards per carry to go up, which would either partially or wholly offset that loss.I'm far more concerned about his health than I am about Tatum Bell.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I think if the Lions can hang in there to at least look like a playoff contender, KJ could become very valuable. They're a better team with KJ and they know it. If he has a reason to come back and play hard (other than being a gamer) you can bet they'll use him plenty.
I'm not saying Bell is terrible, but KJ would normally get more than six yards out of four receptions. That offense thrives on passes, and I'm not sure Bell is able to maximize them. I think Martz will be very happy to see Jones back in the lineup. With no fear of re-aggravating the same injury, and a shot at the post-season, you might see even more than last year. If they're .500 or better when he returns, look out.
I'm not saying Bell is terrible, but KJ would normally get more than six yards out of four receptions. That offense thrives on passes, and I'm not sure Bell is able to maximize them. I think Martz will be very happy to see Jones back in the lineup. With no fear of re-aggravating the same injury, and a shot at the post-season, you might see even more than last year. If they're .500 or better when he returns, look out.
IMO, in a 12-team redraft, he would've been a 3rd round pick if fully healthy. His early-September ADP would've been in the Thomas Jones, Clinton Portis, Brandon Jacobs, Ronnie Brown range. Behind the Edge, Benson, MJD group.I've got him in 2 of 2 leagues. Obviously I think he'll end up rewarding his owners that spent 8-10rd picks on him quite handsomely.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
He was a top 10 RB last year. Had he not gotten hurt, there is no way he goes past early round 2 at the latest.This year, I think the first couple of games he plays, his fantasy value will be limited.
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
That is a possibility.
gianmarco
Footballguy
This is a guy to target if his owner is struggling after a couple of weeks. Offer him a marginal starter that you may own for him if he's in need (A. Green or J. Lewis) and he could end up being huge down the stretch when most needed.fatboyj711
Footballguy
This is definitely something worth noting, especially considering KJ is coming off a pretty serious injury/operation, and the fact that he's taken some viscious hits at the goal line in his short career... duckett is a proven commodity when it comes to goal line carries, but that all depends on if he's good to go within a few weeksi'd be more concerned with duckett than bell if i were a KJ owner... of course KJ's health is the primary concern
yellowdog
Footballguy
ESPN's John Clayton reports that, barring a setback in his recovery from Lisfranc surgery, Kevin Jones should be active in Week 2.
Jones is unlikely to see more than a few touches against Minnesota and gets a rough matchup, but this should turn out to be a nice reward for his patient owners. It appears he has a good chance to make an impact by Week 3 or 4. Jones, Tatum Bell, and Aveion Cason may be Detroit's only active running backs Sunday, as T.J. Duckett is likely out with an ankle injury.
Source: ESPN Insider
Rotoworld
Jones is unlikely to see more than a few touches against Minnesota and gets a rough matchup, but this should turn out to be a nice reward for his patient owners. It appears he has a good chance to make an impact by Week 3 or 4. Jones, Tatum Bell, and Aveion Cason may be Detroit's only active running backs Sunday, as T.J. Duckett is likely out with an ankle injury.
Source: ESPN Insider
Rotoworld
I agree,... it's a lil' early in my opinion.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Wow that would be great news. Assuming he can stay healthy he should be a legit fantasy contributor by week 4.
3nOut
Footballguy
Week 4 against the Bears' D?KJ is really tough to guage for me. I think he may be like another Jones, Julius, in that he will be a part of a RBBC except that he (Kevin) has more of an upside than Julius.
Sigh this puts me in bind. Had 10th pick of 10 and in 3-4-5-6 (Made reachs here for Home Runes somthing I think you need to do at 10 to catch up to vaule of 1st 5 picks.) rounds the players I wanted at 2nd of those picks where taken right before me. But I did end up with KJ late.Was thinking of Droping KJ or S. Moss to pick up Jake Delhome ... Now I am not sure.10 Team League13 Man Roster 1 QB- 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 TE 1 K 1- DefVince Young (9.10) FPW(1.10),Edge(3.10)AP(4.1)KJ (11.10)Harrison (2.1),Coles (7.10) S. Moss (8.10), S. Homes (10.1)Heap (5.10) Gonzo (6.1)Gostkowski (13.10)Mia Def (12.1)
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Insurance. They didn't (and truth be told still don't) know what to expect from KJ. If he comes back to form, he is unquestionably the #1, IMO.NoCheese said:
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
For this week? or you mean for trade value?I picked him up late in my draft this year, and he'll sit on my bench until he produces. If you're looking to get him on the cheap, it may be too late now. Buying or Selling KJ as of right now is dicey business. He was a top 10 back in PPR leagues last year and could return to form, or he could be on a very slow road back. Just very unknown right now.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Whew, so glad you posted this. I almost went and believed the Detroit staff and their medical team and advisors that think he'd be ready. I didn't realize we had someone that's close with KJ and knows the specifics of his injury and his rehab right here on the forum warning us it's too early.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I love all the "experts" around here.Doctors have already stated his foot is fine. There is no concern of injuring it again.
There is concern of injuring areas around the foot due to not being in "game shape".
One thing to keep in mind, he has come out and said that he experiences severe pain at time and will continue to do so all season.
There is concern of injuring areas around the foot due to not being in "game shape".
One thing to keep in mind, he has come out and said that he experiences severe pain at time and will continue to do so all season.
No warning. I just think it's my opinion that they bring him back this early.
kensat30
Footballguy
I just get this feeling in my gut, that Kevin Jones is one of the players that is going to lead teams to the championships this year.
Here we have a guy that was top10 PPG last year and got injured. He went in the middle and even late middle rounds of drafts this year, so you know he is deep on someone's bench. Everyone thought he was much worse off than he actually turned out to be. If he slowly works his way back and is hitting full speed sometime right aroudn mid-season, even if he is only 80-90% so is everyone else in the NFL.
I don't think it can be underestimated when a guy who hasn't got a whole lot of work enters the starting lineup in mid-year. Fresh legs are key. See Julius Jones 2004. Ladell Betts 2006. Larry Johnson 2005. The list goes on and on.
Here we have a guy that was top10 PPG last year and got injured. He went in the middle and even late middle rounds of drafts this year, so you know he is deep on someone's bench. Everyone thought he was much worse off than he actually turned out to be. If he slowly works his way back and is hitting full speed sometime right aroudn mid-season, even if he is only 80-90% so is everyone else in the NFL.
I don't think it can be underestimated when a guy who hasn't got a whole lot of work enters the starting lineup in mid-year. Fresh legs are key. See Julius Jones 2004. Ladell Betts 2006. Larry Johnson 2005. The list goes on and on.
Gopher State
Footballguy
I don't think Jones will be the one leading teams to championships, first Bell is going to get some carries anyway you cut it. Second Detroit is a pass first team, with a bad defense, when you down by 20 pts WR's will see more action then RB's.RB's that will lead teams to championships will be Portis, Henry, AP for MN, Lynch Buff, but Jones will not be in this group. I keep hearing he was a top 10 back last year BEFORE he got hurt, what counts is where you finish the season, not that you were a top RB after week 3 4 etc. I agree I could be wrong, but the jury's out if he can even play 8 games without getting hurt.
The Lions staff wants Kevin Jones. Make no mistake. It doesn't matter how well Bell plays.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
I own KJ. Drafted him in round 10 or thereabouts in my 12 teamer.
There's no danger of him injuring his foot again; however, there is always the possibility of some sort of cascade injury. He's still pretty risky but offers significant upside if you can get him cheaply.
There's no danger of him injuring his foot again; however, there is always the possibility of some sort of cascade injury. He's still pretty risky but offers significant upside if you can get him cheaply.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
From what I have read and heard from his doctors and KJ himself on WDFN is that his foot is 100%, but he miised spring ball and training camp, except working out on his own.
So just like LJ, Jones has to get into game shape. I would think at least week 4 before he is ready for 20-25 touches.
This way Bell will go back to his 8-10 carries and probably stay more effective as well.
So just like LJ, Jones has to get into game shape. I would think at least week 4 before he is ready for 20-25 touches.
This way Bell will go back to his 8-10 carries and probably stay more effective as well.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
There is NO way they activate somebody who is 7 weeks way from contributing.
Dt's Mules
Footballguy
dunno about that, lions were pretty bad last year and kj was top 10
pghrob
Footballguy
They may activate him and he may play....what I am saying it may be 5-7 weeks before his level of contribution is worthy of being considered a start in fantasy football. I can't imagine him getting 80% of the carries sooner than week 6. If he's not getting that type of workload, he is at best an RB3. Granted, he will work up to that, I am simply saying that it is going to take a while to reap the reward.
az_prof
Footballguy
It's too early to say how soon until he makes a big impact but it is certainly a good sign that he is being activated week two and has been practicing two weeks now without a set back. I expect he'll get a four or five carries this week just to give him some live game action.
ckalltheway
Footballguy
Really? I've heard Martz say that Kevin Jones will have to earn his job back.Payne said:
WarRedbirds
Footballguy
Here's a nice piece on Kevin Jones recovery by Mitch Albom:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...0380/0/SPORTS16
A bit of a "puff" piece, but it is nice to read about how he is taking care of him self and training hard to get back on the field...and has the desire to win his job back.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...0380/0/SPORTS16
A bit of a "puff" piece, but it is nice to read about how he is taking care of him self and training hard to get back on the field...and has the desire to win his job back.
