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Updated info in post 40, Kevin Jones expected to play in week 3 (1 Viewer)

Anthony Borbely

Anthony Borbely

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Per Rotoworld:

ESPN's John Clayton reports that, barring a setback in his recovery from Lisfranc surgery, Kevin Jones should be active in Week 2.

Jones is unlikely to see more than a few touches against Minnesota and gets a rough matchup, but this should turn out to be a nice reward for his patient owners. It appears he has a good chance to make an impact by Week 3 or 4. Jones, Tatum Bell, and Aveion Cason may be Detroit's only active running backs Sunday, as T.J. Duckett is likely out with an ankle injury.

Source: ESPN Insider

 
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If, as the Doctors stated, there is no threat of reinjuring the foot, and he is in good enough physical condition to play and not risk injury for that reason, why not bring him back?

 
Kevin Jones = SOD (and its not even close)

although...he won't make it through the season, of course. Still, if you get to start your 12 round pick 4 or 5 times it is def worth it.

 
I would pick an easier spot. You can say "If he's ready, he's ready" but they don't know if he's ready for sure or not. Minnesota's got a very good run defense and everyone know's his situation, he's gonna be a target when he's in there just to make sure he IS ready.

If I owned him, I wouldn't want him coming in vs. the Vikings. There's not a line running back on the team I'd start this week.

 
zoonation said:
Kevin Jones = SOD (and its not even close)although...he won't make it through the season, of course. Still, if you get to start your 12 round pick 4 or 5 times it is def worth it.
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Problem is, by the time you trust him enough to start him, it'll be right around the time he's ready to get hurt again. So glad to be rid of this clown. Fool's gold . . .
 
Apparently there is no threat to him injuring his foot by playing.

However, word is he will be playing in a lot of pain at times due to the recovery.

 
Tom Baker said:
zoonation said:
Kevin Jones = SOD (and its not even close)although...he won't make it through the season, of course. Still, if you get to start your 12 round pick 4 or 5 times it is def worth it.
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Problem is, by the time you trust him enough to start him, it'll be right around the time he's ready to get hurt again. So glad to be rid of this clown. Fool's gold . . .
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in the first three rounds... :goodposting: In the 10-14 round... :shock:
 
A team that took two receivers early and got one or more of Kevin Jones, Chris Brown, Lamont Jordan or Clinton Portis in the mid-late rounds of their draft is looking pretty good right now.

 
bostonfred said:
A team that took two receivers early and got one or more of Kevin Jones, Chris Brown, Lamont Jordan or Clinton Portis in the mid-late rounds of their draft is looking pretty good right now.
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I drafted #1 overall and took LT. Then I waited until the 6th round to draft my 2nd RB. I was able to pull off the following:Thomas JonesChris BrownLamont JordanLadell BettsKevin JonesIf this works out, I plan to apply this strategy in most of my drafts from now on.
 
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Give him a couple carries this week. 5 carries next week. And 10-15 carries the next 2 weeks after that. Then they hit the bye and give him time to recover and we're looking at a RB#2 minimum, running full steam, right around week 7 just in time for the playoff stretch.

 
Steeler07 said:
bostonfred said:
A team that took two receivers early and got one or more of Kevin Jones, Chris Brown, Lamont Jordan or Clinton Portis in the mid-late rounds of their draft is looking pretty good right now.
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I drafted #1 overall and took LT. Then I waited until the 6th round to draft my 2nd RB. I was able to pull off the following:Thomas JonesChris BrownLamont JordanLadell BettsKevin JonesIf this works out, I plan to apply this strategy in most of my drafts from now on.
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I've done it before, and it's often risky.... usually they don't play out this year (Chris Brown)... and what can also happen is no clear #2 and you wind up kicking yourself week in week out. I mean a healthy Kevin Jones circa early last year... vs Chris Brown... whom would you start. Then Portis goes down... and matchups aren't always easy... but trading value sure helps.
 
Minnesota's run defense is good, but not as good as it was last year. Further, they can be victimized deep. I think the Lions will be able to score on them this week, and with Duckett out and Jones likely limited to a few carries, I think Tatum Bell is underrated this week. I wouldn't start him if you don't have to, but I thiunk he's good for 9-13 points this week, even if it looks like : 19 carries, 48 yards, 1 TD, 2 rec. 21 yds.

 
so it sounds like Jones will slowly be getting back into the lineup. What's everyone's prediction as far as how much playing time will Jones and Bell get a few weeks down the road? I'm thinking that unless Bell gets hurt or really stinks it up, he (Bell) should still get more than half the carries. Does anyone think that at some time this season, Jones will surpass Bell in the lineup? Reason i'm asking is that someone in my league just dropped Jones (no patience i guess) and i'm trying to decide if I want to pick him up on Waivers and use my high claim rank, or if I should wait the 24hrs and pick him up on Free Agency. Is everyone still high on Jones to have a productive season? thanks!

 
I was listening to sports radio, and their Lions insider (Tony Ortiz) was on. He said the Lions are practicing now (it was 3pm at the time), and that nothing has been said by the Lions about KJ. He said KJ had typical soreness yesterday after practice. Ortiz and radio host Terry Foster (Detroit News columnist) both doubt he plays this week.

I don't know which is true. My gut feeling says he will not play until week 3. Just a guess.

 
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burd said:
so it sounds like Jones will slowly be getting back into the lineup. What's everyone's prediction as far as how much playing time will Jones and Bell get a few weeks down the road? I'm thinking that unless Bell gets hurt or really stinks it up, he (Bell) should still get more than half the carries. Does anyone think that at some time this season, Jones will surpass Bell in the lineup? Reason i'm asking is that someone in my league just dropped Jones (no patience i guess) and i'm trying to decide if I want to pick him up on Waivers and use my high claim rank, or if I should wait the 24hrs and pick him up on Free Agency. Is everyone still high on Jones to have a productive season? thanks!
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Who else could you pick up on Waivers that is a possible top 10 RB? I'd grab him before someone else does. Come playoff time he might be gold.
 
Deuce said:
burd said:
so it sounds like Jones will slowly be getting back into the lineup. What's everyone's prediction as far as how much playing time will Jones and Bell get a few weeks down the road? I'm thinking that unless Bell gets hurt or really stinks it up, he (Bell) should still get more than half the carries. Does anyone think that at some time this season, Jones will surpass Bell in the lineup? Reason i'm asking is that someone in my league just dropped Jones (no patience i guess) and i'm trying to decide if I want to pick him up on Waivers and use my high claim rank, or if I should wait the 24hrs and pick him up on Free Agency. Is everyone still high on Jones to have a productive season? thanks!
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Who else could you pick up on Waivers that is a possible top 10 RB? I'd grab him before someone else does. Come playoff time he might be gold.
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yeah, very good point. I put in a claim for Jones and hopefully I get him. I just hate wasting a pick on someone who doesn't put up points and ends up sitting on my bench. But he can't do worse than the guys i'm starting .... Caddy, Tatum, Duece.
 
If ESPN ends up with egg on their face on this one, too, I will start to really worry about them.

 
Jones will be unreliable starter. Whereas he is not in danger of re-injury, he is in danger of pain and flair ups. Tantum Bell is good enough to fill in. Jones should put up some nice numbers, but will likely have games where Bell carries the load.

 
shakeybarn said:
Steeler07 said:
bostonfred said:
A team that took two receivers early and got one or more of Kevin Jones, Chris Brown, Lamont Jordan or Clinton Portis in the mid-late rounds of their draft is looking pretty good right now.
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I drafted #1 overall and took LT. Then I waited until the 6th round to draft my 2nd RB. I was able to pull off the following:Thomas JonesChris BrownLamont JordanLadell BettsKevin JonesIf this works out, I plan to apply this strategy in most of my drafts from now on.
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I've done it before, and it's often risky.... usually they don't play out this year (Chris Brown)... and what can also happen is no clear #2 and you wind up kicking yourself week in week out. I mean a healthy Kevin Jones circa early last year... vs Chris Brown... whom would you start. Then Portis goes down... and matchups aren't always easy... but trading value sure helps.
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LT will match most duos over the course of the season so whatever you get out of your RB2 is gravy. Add to it the upside you have at the other positions by waiting on RB2 and it can be a very good strategy. You DO have to carpet bomb the remaining RBs in rounds 6-10 and swinging and missing on all of them isn't entirely out of the quwstion.
 
Kowalski on WDFN: Jones looks great in workout

Posted by MLive.com Staff September 13, 2007 20:23PM

Categories: Statewide

On his hour-long weekly radio show on WDFN-Detroit, 'The Point After', MLive's Lions insider Tom Kowalski says Kevin Jones looked great in his second hard workout of the week. Coaches were ecstatic, he adds.

But don't expect the Lions to rush him back. They likely will sit him until next week, and ease him back in at that time.

Killer expects the Lions' Tampa Two to be the perfect system to handle the Vikings' West Coast offense. The Lions should be able to control Minnesota's yards after the catch.
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http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/0...es_looks_g.html :goodposting:

 
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Kowalski on WDFN: Jones looks great in workout

Posted by MLive.com Staff September 13, 2007 20:23PM

Categories: Statewide

On his hour-long weekly radio show on WDFN-Detroit, 'The Point After', MLive's Lions insider Tom Kowalski says Kevin Jones looked great in his second hard workout of the week. Coaches were ecstatic, he adds.

But don't expect the Lions to rush him back. They likely will sit him until next week, and ease him back in at that time.

Killer expects the Lions' Tampa Two to be the perfect system to handle the Vikings' West Coast offense. The Lions should be able to control Minnesota's yards after the catch.
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http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/2007/0...es_looks_g.html :thumbup:
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I think that most decent HS teams could handle the Vikings offense...other than Peterson's bobble and run last week, they did virtually nothing. They weren't in the red zone the entire game.As far as Jones is concerned, Meh. I think that he'll have some value down the stretch, but I expect a RBBC for the most part.

 
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So which Jones, would you rather have on your roster, Kevin or Julius?
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That's a good question. If you can afford to be patient - I would choose KJ. When healthy, I would have to think he gets more carries than JJ.....maybe a better way to state it is MBIII will get a larger percentage of the carries than Tatum Bell once KJ is full strength.
 
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Kevin Jones expected to play next week vs. Philly

by Tom Kowalski

Friday September 14, 2007, 7:54 AM

According to multiple sources, running back Kevin Jones has looked "awesome'' the last two days of practice and is expected to play next week against Philadelphia.

The coaching staff is waiting to see if Jones has any problems today with soreness or swelling after the two hard days of practice -- but none is expected. Jones, according to the sources, has been ruled out of Sunday's game against the Vikings because the Lions want to be cautious and not push the issue too quickly.

Jones' recovery from Lisfranc surgery on his left foot has been nothing short of remarkable. Throughout the entire process, his rehab has been off the charts and he never once suffered a setback of any kind. Recovery from Lisfranc surgery is generally expected to be a full year, but Jones could be on the field a little more than nine months after surgery.

If Jones plays against Philly, he's only expected to take part in about a dozen plays because they want to bring him back slowly. That's the plan, but that number could rise because the major factor will be Jones' stamina and if he feels fresh and strong, he could see even more playing time.
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Anthony Borbely said:
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Kevin Jones expected to play next week vs. Philly

by Tom Kowalski

Friday September 14, 2007, 7:54 AM

According to multiple sources, running back Kevin Jones has looked "awesome'' the last two days of practice and is expected to play next week against Philadelphia.

The coaching staff is waiting to see if Jones has any problems today with soreness or swelling after the two hard days of practice -- but none is expected. Jones, according to the sources, has been ruled out of Sunday's game against the Vikings because the Lions want to be cautious and not push the issue too quickly.

Jones' recovery from Lisfranc surgery on his left foot has been nothing short of remarkable. Throughout the entire process, his rehab has been off the charts and he never once suffered a setback of any kind. Recovery from Lisfranc surgery is generally expected to be a full year, but Jones could be on the field a little more than nine months after surgery.

If Jones plays against Philly, he's only expected to take part in about a dozen plays because they want to bring him back slowly. That's the plan, but that number could rise because the major factor will be Jones' stamina and if he feels fresh and strong, he could see even more playing time.
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Excellent news!
 
jon_mx said:
Jones will be unreliable starter. Whereas he is not in danger of re-injury, he is in danger of pain and flair ups. Tantum Bell is good enough to fill in. Jones should put up some nice numbers, but will likely have games where Bell carries the load.
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Didn't Shaun Alexander have a Lis Franc (sp?) break? Any word on how is pain status is following recovery?
 
I was railed by everyone here when I drafted KJ in a WCOFF Sat league that drafted early.....I am thrilled to have him as my RB4 at this point....

Upside is huge in PPR leagues :rolleyes:

 
jon_mx said:
Jones will be unreliable starter. Whereas he is not in danger of re-injury, he is in danger of pain and flair ups. Tantum Bell is good enough to fill in. Jones should put up some nice numbers, but will likely have games where Bell carries the load.
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:pics:
 
Sort of a hijack, but I gotta vent.

In our PPR league, Jones was drafted in the 11th round of our draft which was held week 2 of preseason. He was then dropped 10 days prior to week 1 by the guy that drafted him for Ronald Curry. The guy then dropped Curry for Garrard when Leftwich was cut by the Jags. I am thinking Jones was the best player of all of them and that the guy is now probably kicking himself.

Another guy picked up Jones and is now trying to package him with some other players for prime cuts. And he got him off of the waiver wire!

I am sharing all of this, because people are so excited to make a move after only one week (and in this case, after the fourth pre-season game) that they lose out on good value that they had for nothing. Those stupidly discarded "scraps" are now highly valuable pickups.

This guy had Jones in round 11. He almost "lucked out" on Curry when he dropped Jones to pick him up, and then dropped Curry for Garrard? He lost all of the value there, making moves before he allowed things to pan out. Garrard isn't even his best QB. :pics:

So the moral of the story is, don't be so eager to make moves for the sake of making moves. Now the guys that picked up the Kevin Joneses and Ronald Curry's are smiling and using those bonus discards to make trade offers for real prime cuts.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Would anyone consider trading Lamont Jordan to the Kevin Jones owner? Just a thought...
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In most cases I would. The key is how I think I can do while Jones is on the bench. You can't afford to fall too fat behind early in the year. But the teams that have KJ and can stay close while he is out are in a great spot.
 
Hoot&HoLLer said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Would anyone consider trading Lamont Jordan to the Kevin Jones owner? Just a thought...
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I have Lamont Jordan and I would not trade him for KJ right now.
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I tend to lean that way.My question is even when KJ gets healthy...are people really thinking that TBell will never carry the ball or catch anything out of the backfield? KJ wasn't ripping it up on the ground last year, he was great OOTB, but those catches might be split, plus plus plus we are seeing the 21st century version of the run n shoot right now.
 
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