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Owen Daniels, week 3 (1 Viewer)

Pittsburgh United

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I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?

 
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Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
 
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H.K. said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
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Hmmm it looks like Owens hasn't gotten many targets at all up to this point. With AJ out, won't Schaub have to target him more out of necessity? Sure he'll be getting more attention from the D, but that doesn't necessarily mean Houston will throw less.
 
H.K. said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
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Not one of your better schtick shots but worthy of note non the less. :thumbdown:
 
I beg to differ, Scaife had a good week against the Colts, and if 2 of their starting LBs are out again this week, I can see an above average week for Daniels.

Mole

 
I like Daniels this week as well. I started him Week 1, benched him for H Miller in Week 2, and am going back to him in Week 3 (so you may want to bench him). :goodposting: Without AJ, I think Daniels becomes the guy that Schaub is going to lean on. K Walter hasn't shown much and, even though I like Jacoby a lot, I don't think he's ready to become a "go to" guy.

 
H.K. said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
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good enough for me, i'm starting him.thanks HK :goodposting:
 
Guinis72 said:
I like Daniels this week as well. I started him Week 1, benched him for H Miller in Week 2, and am going back to him in Week 3 (so you may want to bench him). :) Without AJ, I think Daniels becomes the guy that Schaub is going to lean on. K Walter hasn't shown much and, even though I like Jacoby a lot, I don't think he's ready to become a "go to" guy.
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I have the same two TEs. I started Miller the first two weeks, and am benching him this week for Daniels. With my luck, Miller will go crazy this week. :wall:
 
joffer said:
H.K. said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
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good enough for me, i'm starting him.thanks HK :wall:
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:) Have to pick him back up. If HK hates him he's a sure start.
 
bcr8f said:
joffer said:
H.K. said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
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good enough for me, i'm starting him.thanks HK :mellow:
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:mellow: Have to pick him back up. If HK hates him he's a sure start.
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Count me in. I'm looking to pick him up too. :mellow:
 
I'm probably benching Witten (vs. Chicago) to play Daniels this week. All I need is some yards out of him, which I think will be highly likely with a potential shootout and a bunch of backup linebackers for Indy.

However, I do expect Houston to try to run the ball a lot, so I don't see Daniels going off. I just like him better than Witten this week.

 
I'm thinking about starting Daniels over Watson this week. I think Indy is gonna blow the doors open and Houston is gonna have to pass. With AJ out, they will force the ball to Owens.

DaTruth

 
DaTruth said:
I'm thinking about starting Daniels over Watson this week. I think Indy is gonna blow the doors open and Houston is gonna have to pass. With AJ out, they will force the ball to Owens. DaTruth
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Watson has been money 2 weeks in a row.... hes a major RedZone threat... Watson is a must start unless you have top 5 option.Once teams begin covering Welker better... Ben's yardage #s will go up.
 
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Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
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meh he hasn't even been involved all that much. The Cbs aren't coverring Owen(when he lines up as a TE). He doesn't get the Gates respect...no way.We saw in preseason and summer pressers from Kubiak that they have plays for him so I'd figure it's a matter of time. Further, Owen is a former QB so I'm sure Kubiak will always be tempted to call some gimmick plays
 
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KellysHeroes said:
DaTruth said:
I'm thinking about starting Daniels over Watson this week. I think Indy is gonna blow the doors open and Houston is gonna have to pass. With AJ out, they will force the ball to Owens. DaTruth
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Watson has been money 2 weeks in a row.... hes a major RedZone threat... Watson is a must start unless you have top 5 option.Once teams begin covering Welker better... Ben's yardage #s will go up.
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:wub: so welker hasn't been covered the first two games? Show me a defense that just says, "eh he is wes welker, lets not even look at him"Maybe the NE offensive gameplan is so good, he will always have space.
 
harryhood said:
KellysHeroes said:
DaTruth said:
I'm thinking about starting Daniels over Watson this week. I think Indy is gonna blow the doors open and Houston is gonna have to pass. With AJ out, they will force the ball to Owens. DaTruth
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Watson has been money 2 weeks in a row.... hes a major RedZone threat... Watson is a must start unless you have top 5 option.Once teams begin covering Welker better... Ben's yardage #s will go up.
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:thumbup: so welker hasn't been covered the first two games? Show me a defense that just says, "eh he is wes welker, lets not even look at him"Maybe the NE offensive gameplan is so good, he will always have space.
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hmmmm... hes tied with Randy Moss for a team leading 18 targets... right now teams aren't really focusing on Welker as Moss spreads them deep... thats why hes getting so many looks... soon; teams will place a little more focus on Wes; that should free up Watson a little more.
 
there always seems to be this dilemma with recievers (including te's). if there are several good recieving options on a team, then you worry that there aren't enough balls to go around. if there is only one main recieving threat on a team, then you worry about the defenses keying on that guy and shutting him down. there is no definitive answer to this because sometimes it goes one way and sometimes the other. there is a good chance that houston will be playing from behind, so even if indy's defense can worry more about owen with aj out, i think there is a good chance that owen will have a good game with a lot of targets (especially since i am playing against him this week).

 
Jayrod said:
I'm probably benching Witten (vs. Chicago) to play Daniels this week. All I need is some yards out of him, which I think will be highly likely with a potential shootout and a bunch of backup linebackers for Indy.However, I do expect Houston to try to run the ball a lot, so I don't see Daniels going off. I just like him better than Witten this week.
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I just did that myself.
 
Indy's LB's are pretty fast and therefore good pass coverage guys. I don't expect a good game from Daniels.

 
KellysHeroes said:
Frenchy Fuqua said:
Eric Johnson had a nice game against the Colts opening night.
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That because so much coverage was on the 2 WRs and Reggie Bush...The Texans have no #1 WR... no Reggie Bush...

Daniels: a 4 rec for 50 yd this week
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Throw a TD in there and I'll be like :rolleyes:
 
Pittsburgh United said:
Guinis72 said:
I like Daniels this week as well. I started him Week 1, benched him for H Miller in Week 2, and am going back to him in Week 3 (so you may want to bench him). :) Without AJ, I think Daniels becomes the guy that Schaub is going to lean on. K Walter hasn't shown much and, even though I like Jacoby a lot, I don't think he's ready to become a "go to" guy.
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I have the same two TEs. I started Miller the first two weeks, and am benching him this week for Daniels. With my luck, Miller will go crazy this week. :bow:
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Same boat here...started 0-2 combined losses by 3 pts. Really need to change it up.
 
mofo313 said:
Pittsburgh United said:
Guinis72 said:
I like Daniels this week as well. I started him Week 1, benched him for H Miller in Week 2, and am going back to him in Week 3 (so you may want to bench him). :lmao: Without AJ, I think Daniels becomes the guy that Schaub is going to lean on. K Walter hasn't shown much and, even though I like Jacoby a lot, I don't think he's ready to become a "go to" guy.
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I have the same two TEs. I started Miller the first two weeks, and am benching him this week for Daniels. With my luck, Miller will go crazy this week. :unsure:
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Same boat here...started 0-2 combined losses by 3 pts. Really need to change it up.
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Add me to the list of folks benching Heath Miller and playing Owen Daniels. Miller hasn't been bad, but it seems like there are lots of options right now in Pittsburgh and I have a feeling they will be grinding it out on the ground this week. With the news of AJ being out now official, I am going with Daniels.
 
Scaife had 4 targets last week, being overthrown on a sure TD

Daniels had 7 targets last week

Yes I like him this week :lmao:

 
H.K. said:
Pittsburgh United said:
I imagine there are some coaches who have been starting him all along, but I have had him on the bench. I wonder if this might be a big breakout week for him. AJ is out. Schaub will still need to throw the ball a lot in this presumable shoot-out against Indy. So has Daniels' stock gone up a bit for week 3?
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Just the opposite. Daniels had value because the defense was completely focused on AJ, and Owen was able to pick up some scraps when they didn't go to #80. No AJ means teams can actually worry about stopping other people. Daniels is not good enough to do anything on his own, so he needs AJ to free him up. He should not be in anyone's line-up any time soon.
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fair point.. :thumbup:
 
vamphyri said:
Jayrod said:
I'm probably benching Witten (vs. Chicago) to play Daniels this week. All I need is some yards out of him, which I think will be highly likely with a potential shootout and a bunch of backup linebackers for Indy.However, I do expect Houston to try to run the ball a lot, so I don't see Daniels going off. I just like him better than Witten this week.
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I just did that myself.
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really? i have this combo in two leagues and hadn't thought about benching witten. is this more about fear of the bears or daniels' upside?
 
I like Daniels this week. I think AJ being out does help him. I think Houston comes out with a heavy dose of the run attack - trying to eat the clock and keep the game close. The Colts will of course stack the line and this will put Daniels in a good spot for some play action catches and some third down grabs.

My prediction

6 - 69yards - 1 TD.

I am probably going to start O. Daniels over Tony Gonzalez. I am just not sold on KC offense right now.

 
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jesseasi said:
I like Daniels this week. I think AJ being out does help him. I think Houston comes out with a heavy dose of the run attack - trying to eat the clock and keep the game close. The Colts will of course stack the line and this will put Daniels in a good spot for some play action catches and some third down grabs. My prediction6 - 69yards - 1 TD.I am probably going to start O. Daniels over Tony Gonzalez. I am just not sold on KC offense right now.
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That's my dilema as well. Seems like a toss-up right now, but man, I have a hard time benching Gonzo.
 
jabarony said:
jesseasi said:
I like Daniels this week. I think AJ being out does help him. I think Houston comes out with a heavy dose of the run attack - trying to eat the clock and keep the game close. The Colts will of course stack the line and this will put Daniels in a good spot for some play action catches and some third down grabs. My prediction6 - 69yards - 1 TD.I am probably going to start O. Daniels over Tony Gonzalez. I am just not sold on KC offense right now.
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That's my dilema as well. Seems like a toss-up right now, but man, I have a hard time benching Gonzo.
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If you are a Gonzo owner as well - let me know what you do. This is not an easy decision. I am 2-0 with virtually no production from my TE spot. Minny supposedly has one of the best run defenses and a horrible pass D. So far it has just seems like KC does not want to get Gonzo involved. Actually ever since Herm came over it seems like Herm wants to get everyone else involved and Gonzo gets his touches out of necessity. I am not 100% going to start Daniels this week - but if there were a week he looked good - this is one of them.
 
I'm benching Vernon Davis as well for Owen Daniels. Of course this will probably be the week that VD explodes. I almost cut VD out of sheer anger. I came to my senses and realized it was better to hold onto him and try to trade or use him at a later date. I understand that San Fran's weak offense headed by Alex Smith is partly to blame for VD's poor performance but I'm driving the Owen Daniels train until it derails. I like his upside a lot, especially with AJ out. RW is big on him, for whatever that's worth. I love RW but they were terribly wrong on the Brandon Jacobs and DJ Hackett kool aid. No one told them those pitchers were poisoned. Glad it was a BYOB for me on those guys.

Edit for spelling and to also say that I like Bo Scaife too, but unfortunately the Tenn passing game is too unpredictable.

 
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guavapure said:
I'm benching Vernon Davis as well for Owen Daniels. Of course this will probably be the week that VD explodes. I almost cut VD out of sheer anger. I came to my senses and realized it was better to hold onto him and try to trade or use him at a later date. I understand that San Fran's weak offense headed by Alex Smith is partly to blame for VD's poor performance but I'm driving the Owen Daniels train until it derails. I like his upside a lot, especially with AJ out. RW is big on him, for whatever that's worth. I love RW but they were terribly wrong on the Brandon Jacobs and DJ Hackett kool aid. No one told them those pitchers were poisoned. Glad it was a BYOB for me on those guys.Edit for spelling and to also say that I like Bo Scaife too, but unfortunately the Tenn passing game is too unpredictable.
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BYOB?
 
Yes, starting him over some WR scraps as a flex (WR/TE only) for now w/ AJ out for me - along w/ Cooley. My first double TE set :(

5 for 50 in a PPR will work, and a TD would be a bonus. That seems like his floor (not including the TD), and if Schaub locks in on him I think he could have a nice game.

Indy will be up early, taking Green out of the game for much of the 2nd half, and the passes have to go somewhere. I agree with another poster about E Johnson vs. the Colts opening night. If Schaub can move the chains and spread it around a little I think he's a decent play. I wouldn't sit another top 10 TE for him though.

 
Darth Cheney said:
Winslow or Daniels? Daniels or Winslow? I won't know until 12:55 on Sunday.
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How can you sit the Soldier the way he is playing :stirspot: I have both Daniels and Winslow, with AJ out I may play Daniels at my flex as I still think the Texans may do OK. But I would not sit Winslow for Daniels, JMHO!
 
I wouldn't play Daniels over Whitten or KW2, he has a nice matchup, but those guys are much more consistant.

 
Daniels had 7 targets last week and caught 5 for 58 yds.

The last time he faced Indy (week 2 last year) he had 5 targets and caught 4 balls for 45 yds and a TD.

 
TEs playing against Cover-2 defenses are usually good plays. Of course last week I played Sciafe against the Colts over Daniels. I'll try Daniels this week.

 
Mole said:
I wouldn't play Daniels over Whitten or KW2, he has a nice matchup, but those guys are much more consistant.
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thx for "seconding" this. i might do it later in the season after i'[ve seen more from daniels, but am sticking with witten for now. playing matchups can be like trying to time the stock market :goodposting:
 
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