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timschochet

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1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?

2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?

3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?

I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!

 
I'm not sure you go from 3 carries to 20 in one week. I'd look for 6-10 carries, with a full load within a few weeks.

 
I'd love to see 20 carries. But it isn't going to happen. Even if he were healthy, it wouldn't happen. About 10 sounds right, with 3-5 receptions.

 
I'd love to see 20 carries. But it isn't going to happen. Even if he were healthy, it wouldn't happen. About 10 sounds right, with 3-5 receptions.
are you saying that even when he's healthy, this is the most we can expect? If that's the case, he'll never be anything other than a marginal fill-in?
 
On the radio Jones said he felt great after the game and would have liked more touches, but the Lions were so far down.

I would think a 50-50 split this week, moving to a 75-25 from then on.

 
Bell sucks. The coaches want Jones in there.

That being said, even if he is completely healthy, he won't get many carries in this offense.

In a PPR league he will be worth starting as he can expect 5-6 catches a game.

 
I'd love to see 20 carries. But it isn't going to happen. Even if he were healthy, it wouldn't happen. About 10 sounds right, with 3-5 receptions.
are you saying that even when he's healthy, this is the most we can expect? If that's the case, he'll never be anything other than a marginal fill-in?
No. I think what he's saying is that no RB in Detroit will be seeing 20+ carries a game this season, even when Kevin Jones is 100% and back to being the featured RB.Considering this will be Jones' second game back, the poster is saying that you can reasonably expect Jones to get about 10 carries and a handful of catches.Personally, I'd expect that rushing and receiving numbers to be fairly similar the following week in WAS, and then Jones getting more work following the BYE should he suffer no setbacks over the next 3 weeks.
 
Bell sucks. The coaches want Jones in there.That being said, even if he is completely healthy, he won't get many carries in this offense. In a PPR league he will be worth starting as he can expect 5-6 catches a game.
How many is "not many carries"? Look, if Jones throughout the rest of the year gets 80-100 yards a week from a combo of rushing and receiving, and now and then with a TD thrown in, he'll be fine for me. But do you expect this to happen?
 
But do you expect this to happen?
You're not going to get a real answer until someone from the coaching staff says something, or we see him play this weekend.Everyone in here is going to have different guesses as to how much he's going to play. What we know for a fact is that he played this past weekend, he felt fine afterward, and he wanted more carries.Other than that, good luck. If you have to start him this weekend (like I do), I hope you're the church-going type.
 
Bell sucks. The coaches want Jones in there.That being said, even if he is completely healthy, he won't get many carries in this offense. In a PPR league he will be worth starting as he can expect 5-6 catches a game.
How many is "not many carries"? Look, if Jones throughout the rest of the year gets 80-100 yards a week from a combo of rushing and receiving, and now and then with a TD thrown in, he'll be fine for me. But do you expect this to happen?
Absolutely. Looks at the history Martz has with RB's. They don't get a lot of carries. Jones will get a few receptions which would make him (hopefully) a very good RB2 in PPR leagues.I could see 10-12 carries for 40 yards and 4-5 receptions for 30-40 yards every week. At least I hope so.
 
Bell sucks. The coaches want Jones in there.That being said, even if he is completely healthy, he won't get many carries in this offense. In a PPR league he will be worth starting as he can expect 5-6 catches a game.
How many is "not many carries"? Look, if Jones throughout the rest of the year gets 80-100 yards a week from a combo of rushing and receiving, and now and then with a TD thrown in, he'll be fine for me. But do you expect this to happen?
I wouldn't expect Jones to get more than 15 carries in many games this season, that's just not how Martz's offence works. I do expect him to get 4-8 catches a game though, giving him 20+ touches per week. If he suffers no setbacks, I see no reason why he can't generate 80-120 combined yards a week with the occasional TD sprinkled in.
 
Bell sucks. The coaches want Jones in there.That being said, even if he is completely healthy, he won't get many carries in this offense. In a PPR league he will be worth starting as he can expect 5-6 catches a game.
How many is "not many carries"? Look, if Jones throughout the rest of the year gets 80-100 yards a week from a combo of rushing and receiving, and now and then with a TD thrown in, he'll be fine for me. But do you expect this to happen?
Absolutely. Looks at the history Martz has with RB's. They don't get a lot of carries. Jones will get a few receptions which would make him (hopefully) a very good RB2 in PPR leagues.I could see 10-12 carries for 40 yards and 4-5 receptions for 30-40 yards every week. At least I hope so.
20 carries is just a lot for a RB in general. I don't think people quite have their arms around that yet.I said this in another thread yesterday, but it bears repeating. Six running backs last year were able to average 20 carries over the entire season. Six.
 
1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!
First off as being reported Jacobs will get his normal workload when he returns, and this will not be a RBBC with Ward. So yes if TJ is sitting out their go grab him. TJ will most likely be a better option then Ward after week 5 and he gold in a PPR league. TJ's leg needs to say healthy....
 
1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!
First off as being reported Jacobs will get his normal workload when he returns, and this will not be a RBBC with Ward. So yes if TJ is sitting out their go grab him. TJ will most likely be a better option then Ward after week 5 and he gold in a PPR league. TJ's leg needs to say healthy....
This thread just took a turn.
 
I am starting him this week in PPR league. If he only gets 10 runs is fine with me as long as he catches five passes.

 
1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!
First off as being reported Jacobs will get his normal workload when he returns, and this will not be a RBBC with Ward. So yes if TJ is sitting out their go grab him. TJ will most likely be a better option then Ward after week 5 and he gold in a PPR league. TJ's leg needs to say healthy....
What does Thomas Jones have to do with any of this??!? :confused:
 
1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!
First off as being reported Jacobs will get his normal workload when he returns, and this will not be a RBBC with Ward. So yes if TJ is sitting out their go grab him. TJ will most likely be a better option then Ward after week 5 and he gold in a PPR league. TJ's leg needs to say healthy....
Who's TJ? :confused:
 
1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!
1. Not this week, could be 15-20 in a few weeks if they have a big early lead .2. YES! but may still split with Bell / Calhoun until he is back in 100% football shape.3. I would think around 4-6 once he is full time.I think he will be PPR gold, also should get most of the goal line work.
 
Their bye week is week 6, correct? If so, it seems like a perfect set up for one of two things. Regardless, this week he should see an increase from last week, but still far less than a full workload. DEPENDING on how he recovers from this weeks game, week 5 could see one of two likelihoods (assuming he is getting healthy and not the other way around).

In week 5 they get him up to 75% workload, knowing that with the bye week to come he will have progressed perfectly to take on his full share of work after the bye.

In week 5 he gets a full workload because he recovered so well from this coming week's game.

Personally, I think it is the former and it will not be until week 7 that KJ is the full time guy. At that point expect a lot of what you saw last year - he may not get the carries, but he should get some good yardage on receptions and IF HEALTHY (biggest if ever) will be a top 15 back with top 10 upside.

 
I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway.

a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago.

b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.

If you start either of those guys, it should be with the knowledge that the only way they probably produce is either with a goalline score, or busting one open off of a screen pass.

 
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I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway. a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago. b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.
Psst. Chicago is only 12th against the run this year.
 
Detroit had only two games last year in which a RB had 20 or more carries in a game. Both times it was Jones and both times it was on the road (@BUF and @ATL). Ironically, both times were the only times he had 100+ yards rushing in a game last year. The real draw with Jones is his receiving capabilities. He had 9 games out of 12 in which he had 5 receptions or more. Two of the other three games he had 4 receptions and the third game was the game he was injured in.

Tatum Bell, who is barely used this season has 13 recs on 18 targets. Of RBs, only Tomlinson, Bush and Westbrook have more targets than Bell. Imagine how effective Jones will be.

PPR leagues, the guy is a stalwart. Non PPR leagues, you better hope your scoring gives you 1 pt per 10 yards rush and receiving.

 
I can see them giving Jones about 10 carries this week... and trying to give him about 1-15 in Week 5... bringing up up steadily, and then letting him rest during the bye week, and coming out taking just about all of the carries in week 7.

 
He came out of this week very well, no set backs. I don't see why he wouldn't get at least 60% of the load this week. He's far superior to Bell/Calhoun and this is an important division game, coming off of a demoralizing loss.

 
6 carries & 3 rec's this week

I expect will see more 4WR sets from the Lions this year, then running plays, as the 4WR set is a killer for D's to cover

 
I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway. a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago. b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.
Psst. Chicago is only 12th against the run this year.
And has a ton of injuries on defense.
 
I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway. a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago. b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.
Psst. Chicago is only 12th against the run this year.
And has a ton of injuries on defense.
Exactly. I'm worried about Jones this weekend just because of the amount of action he might get--not the defense.
 
Ok, I'll call it...

The Lions coaches are just playing with the Bears right now. They just want the Bears to think that their not going to see KJ that much. KJ is 100 times better in the passing game than Bell, and passing is how they are going to smoke the Bears. Did you see what Romo and MIII did to the Bears. KJ is fine. I bet he plays to whole game, and lights the bears up. You heard here first KJ has 2 TDs this game!!!

peace...

 
During Faulk's sucessful days with the Rams (99-2001) Marshall had 253, 253, 260 carries a season or approx. 15 carries a game. He also had 81, 83, 87 catches a year or approx 5 catches per game. I think the best case scenario is that Jones starts to get these 20 touches a game after the week 6 bye.

 
Can someone give some more insight as to how they employ Calhoun in this offence, both in general and in last game when KJ was back? Stats and targets tell some of the story, but not all. I'm in a PPR league that awards points for PRY and KRY, and Calhoun looks like he handles some kick return duties.

Calhoun's opportunity is obviously limited, but if KJ is only expected to get a few carries again this week, I'm thinking this could be a sneaky play.

Does Calhoun just see spot duties, or has he been in on 3rd downs recently? Is he more of a receiving option than Bell?

 
I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway. a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago. b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.
Psst. Chicago is only 12th against the run this year.
And has a ton of injuries on defense.
Exactly. I'm worried about Jones this weekend just because of the amount of action he might get--not the defense.
Im probably going to roll with him in a TD only scoring league over Maroney. (Portis on the bye)
 
I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway. a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago. b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.
Psst. Chicago is only 12th against the run this year.
And has a ton of injuries on defense.
Exactly. I'm worried about Jones this weekend just because of the amount of action he might get--not the defense.
Im probably going to roll with him in a TD only scoring league over Maroney. (Portis on the bye)
Interesting. I'm going with him in a PPR, because my other options are Jones-Drew or Fred Taylor.
 
I get the feeling that K.Jones starts this weekend and never looks back. In the one league I'm starting him in, I don't have many other options, but at the same time I'm pretty confident with the start. Detroit is an offense you want players from, and I think K.Jones will approach double digit points on Sunday.

Bell has underwhelmed enough that Calhoun of all people is seeing playing time. This is a guy that was in danger of being cut pretty recently if my memory serves me correctly. Tatum Bell has been running like !@#$. The guy is being targeted in the passing game but he has very bad hands. Kevin Jones can instantly turn around the RB position in Detroit and utilize it correctly in the Martz offense. We saw it last season.

Personally, I can't wait to see Jones receiving those money dump off passes while nickel and dime DBs are chasing the WRs around the field. 3rd string CBs are not tackling K. Jones.

 
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I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway. a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago. b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.
Psst. Chicago is only 12th against the run this year.
And has a ton of injuries on defense.
Exactly. I'm worried about Jones this weekend just because of the amount of action he might get--not the defense.
Im probably going to roll with him in a TD only scoring league over Maroney. (Portis on the bye)
Interesting. I'm going with him in a PPR, because my other options are Jones-Drew or Fred Taylor.
I would say that's a very safe bet since JAX is on their BYE this week.
 
I don't think Detroit's going to run against Chicago very much this week anyway. a) They just probably won't be able to against Chicago. b) Once Martz sees Tatum with about 3 carries for 6 yards, and KJ with 2 carries for 4 yards, he'll get impatient and abandon the run altogether this week.
Psst. Chicago is only 12th against the run this year.
And has a ton of injuries on defense.
Exactly. I'm worried about Jones this weekend just because of the amount of action he might get--not the defense.
Im probably going to roll with him in a TD only scoring league over Maroney. (Portis on the bye)
Interesting. I'm going with him in a PPR, because my other options are Jones-Drew or Fred Taylor.
I would say that's a very safe bet since JAX is on their BYE this week.
Thanks for explaining the joke. It's always funnier that way.
 
Can someone give some more insight as to how they employ Calhoun in this offence, both in general and in last game when KJ was back? Stats and targets tell some of the story, but not all. I'm in a PPR league that awards points for PRY and KRY, and Calhoun looks like he handles some kick return duties.Calhoun's opportunity is obviously limited, but if KJ is only expected to get a few carries again this week, I'm thinking this could be a sneaky play.Does Calhoun just see spot duties, or has he been in on 3rd downs recently? Is he more of a receiving option than Bell?
KJ was expected to only get a few carries LAST week, and indicated he could have taken more. This week he is likely to get a larger share if he doesn't suffer a set back in practice. I don't see Calhoun as a good play unless he supplants Bell as the backup to KJ. He is a good receiving back, but so is KJ, so I don't see him replacing KJ too often in passing situations.
 
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az_prof said:
Stompin said:
Can someone give some more insight as to how they employ Calhoun in this offence, both in general and in last game when KJ was back? Stats and targets tell some of the story, but not all. I'm in a PPR league that awards points for PRY and KRY, and Calhoun looks like he handles some kick return duties.Calhoun's opportunity is obviously limited, but if KJ is only expected to get a few carries again this week, I'm thinking this could be a sneaky play.Does Calhoun just see spot duties, or has he been in on 3rd downs recently? Is he more of a receiving option than Bell?
KJ was expected to only get a few carries LAST week, and indicated he could have taken more. This week he is likely to get a larger share if he doesn't suffer a set back in practice. I don't see Calhoun as a good play unless he supplants Bell as the backup to KJ. He is a good receiving back, but so is KJ, so I don't see him replacing KJ too often in passing situations.
Appreciate the insight. :thumbup:
 
Keys Myaths said:
towney said:
timschochet said:
1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!
First off as being reported Jacobs will get his normal workload when he returns, and this will not be a RBBC with Ward. So yes if TJ is sitting out their go grab him. TJ will most likely be a better option then Ward after week 5 and he gold in a PPR league. TJ's leg needs to say healthy....
This thread just took a turn.
Sounds like someone who drafted Jacobs early and really wants him to come back and be the man, ain't happening!! RBBC my friends. Ward has been decent and Jacobs is nothing more than a between the tackles Ron Dayne type back!! For you to turn a KJ thread into this, tells me your mind is wharped.As far as KJ goes. I think by week 6 he is the man. It will take a few more weeks of easing in, but gotta believe that is will be 75-25 by week 6. If KJ performs well it will be more.
 
Keys Myaths said:
towney said:
timschochet said:
1. Does Kevin Jones get 20 carries this week?2. Is he the featured RB for Detroit the rest of the year?3. How many times a game will he be targeted for receptions?I've been successful with Derrick Ward in my flex position, and I'll probably still start him this weekend, but any time now he's going to go into an RBBC with Jacobs. So I'm thinking that it's finally time to take a hard look at Jones, who's been sitting on many FF benches so far. Please give me your thoughts!
First off as being reported Jacobs will get his normal workload when he returns, and this will not be a RBBC with Ward. So yes if TJ is sitting out their go grab him. TJ will most likely be a better option then Ward after week 5 and he gold in a PPR league. TJ's leg needs to say healthy....
This thread just took a turn.
Sounds like someone who drafted Jacobs early and really wants him to come back and be the man, ain't happening!! RBBC my friends. Ward has been decent and Jacobs is nothing more than a between the tackles Ron Dayne type back!! For you to turn a KJ thread into this, tells me your mind is wharped.
:lmao: :lmao:This place is really rolling today. :lmao:
 
As far as KJ goes. I think by week 6 he is the man. It will take a few more weeks of easing in, but gotta believe that is will be 75-25 by week 6. If KJ performs well it will be more.
You have the right idea....but week 6 is his bye.
 
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Mike Martz Interview

Will Kevin Jones get more playing time this week?

"I don't know, I really don't know. It's kind of up to Kevin at this point. He's still trying to catch up mentally to what we're doing, he's still a little rusty and it might take another week or two for him to get a real good handle on what we're doing. We've got to be careful with him, too.''

 
Mike Martz Interview

Will Kevin Jones get more playing time this week?

"I don't know, I really don't know. It's kind of up to Kevin at this point. He's still trying to catch up mentally to what we're doing, he's still a little rusty and it might take another week or two for him to get a real good handle on what we're doing. We've got to be careful with him, too.''
Translation: YES!!!!! :homer:
 
Mike Martz Interview

Will Kevin Jones get more playing time this week?

"I don't know, I really don't know. It's kind of up to Kevin at this point. He's still trying to catch up mentally to what we're doing, he's still a little rusty and it might take another week or two for him to get a real good handle on what we're doing. We've got to be careful with him, too.''
Translation: YES!!!!! :goodposting:
Interesting take, I thought it meant not necessarily this week, but after the bye, he will be the main guy for sure.
 
Mike Martz Interview

Will Kevin Jones get more playing time this week?

"I don't know, I really don't know. It's kind of up to Kevin at this point. He's still trying to catch up mentally to what we're doing, he's still a little rusty and it might take another week or two for him to get a real good handle on what we're doing. We've got to be careful with him, too.''
Translation: YES!!!!! :thumbup:
Interesting take, I thought it meant not necessarily this week, but after the bye, he will be the main guy for sure.
YES!!!!! ;)
 
I can't even remember the name of his injury, but does anyone know if other players actually return to previous form from this injury in relation to the same time KJ has had?

 
I can't even remember the name of his injury, but does anyone know if other players actually return to previous form from this injury in relation to the same time KJ has had?
I believe that he had the same injury that Westbrook had a few years ago. I think it was even around the same point in the season. Westbrook returned the next year and hasn't had any issues with it since.
 
Crusaderfan said:
flyingsushi said:
I can't even remember the name of his injury, but does anyone know if other players actually return to previous form from this injury in relation to the same time KJ has had?
I believe that he had the same injury that Westbrook had a few years ago. I think it was even around the same point in the season. Westbrook returned the next year and hasn't had any issues with it since.
That was Duce Staley.
 
Gatodelsol: The Lions have had past success(relative) running right at Urlacher, not so much on the edges. Will Jones get increased carries this week, as he seems to be best suited for inside running?

Tom Kowalski: You're right, the Lions have had more success running right at Brian Urlacher than trying to hit the edges and allowing him to use his speed in the pursuit game. The Lions no longer have Cory Schlesinger, who usually played well against Urlacher, but it also appears the Bears interior might be "softened'' a little because DT Tommie Harris either won't play or will be limited because of a knee injury. And, yes, Kevin Jones should see a lot more carries in this game. I'd be surprised if he didn't get 12 to 15 touches, if not more. Of course, the game situation will dictate part of that, but they definitely want to get him the ball. :lmao: Website

 
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