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What is Andre Johnson's present value? (1 Viewer)

brindrod

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I'm wondering what type of offers GMs are getting for Andre Johnson or what their owners are willing to take to get rid of him since he won't be playing for the next three weeks.

I'm thinking his value would be in the Warrick Dunn range if the guy is also hurting at RB. If he's bleeding at WR also, perhaps a Mike Furrey?

 
I'm sorry, but I think you are nuts. I wouldn't take either of those guys for Johnson. So he misses a few weeks. So what. He has the potential to be a top 5 WR when he comes back.

If you are a Johnson owner, I think you have to hold onto him. You won't get fair value because of the injury.

 
Agreed. He was lighting it up until he got hurt. Even if he misses 3 more weeks, 10 weeks of him is worth more than 13 weeks of either of the guys you mentioned.

ETA: I mean I agree with the 2nd poster.

 
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Agreed. He was lighting it up until he got hurt. Even if he misses 3 more weeks, 10 weeks of him is worth more than 13 weeks of either of the guys you mentioned.ETA: I mean I agree with the 2nd poster.
If i was looking to trade him, i'd be looking for a solid wr3 in return. certainly you're not going to get a superstar, but the point i think would be to get someone who is clearly better than whoever you've got filling in for AJ and isn't so bad that you'll be completely miserable when AJ comes back.
 
he's sitting on my IR until he comes back...

and i am nearly unwilling to listen to any trade offers for him... even if the injury puts him out of commission for a couple more weeks - i still think he cracks the top 10 WRs.

 
I am making a run at Johnson by trading the owner Deshaun Foster. I am not sure he will bite, but I need some WR help and am willing to wait for him to return to get it (and I had a bunch of RB's). I will let you know how it goes to see what the value is for him in one of my leagues.

 
i offered up Lamont for him and got negged. Figures, i just unloaded Loamont today for Reggie Wayne. What a wacky game this is we play.

 
I agree with much of what was already said. I think where some make mistakes in fantasy leagues is they fail to think ahead. If you are doing well in your league, then keep him for the end of the season, where you make a run for the championship. If you are hurting without him, then you should have drafted better, and you should not settle for a 3rd level reciever for him. Just my opinion.

Dead Irish

 
I'm wondering what type of offers GMs are getting for Andre Johnson or what their owners are willing to take to get rid of him since he won't be playing for the next three weeks. I'm thinking his value would be in the Warrick Dunn range if the guy is also hurting at RB. If he's bleeding at WR also, perhaps a Mike Furrey?
Before his injury he was outstanding probably the number 3 reciever in the first 2 games he is a fast big strong receiveri just got offered a trade my teamMcnabb QBaddai RBWestbrook RBHolt Wrcoleston WrH miller TEBears DRackers K westbrook, coleston for Mcgahee, owens, a johnson Do you feel this is a reasonable trade im not sure on a johnson value after injury
 
How about Kevin Curtis? Fair or too much?
AJ is worth WAY more than Curtis... WAY more. I'd be insulted to receive such an offer.
I'm not so sure about that in a redraft. Granted, Curtis played the best game of his career (past, present and future) last week, so his value is high. I'm not over-estimating Curtis; I think you're over-estimating Johnson.Even if he's back three weeks from now, they still have a bye week coming up (-1 game) and who really thinks he'll be back at pre-injury levels right off the bat? He'll be tentative and hesitant, and won't be in football rhythm for a couple of weeks at least. Then, many owners will want to see a good game from him before starting him with any confidence. That could be another lost week.

By that time, there might be just a couple of fantasy weeks left. Compare that to Curtis, who (barring injury) is a passable WR for every week in the season except his bye. By the time you could expect to use Johnson, you'd need to already be a playoff-caliber team without him. So is he really less valuable than Johnson going forward?

I think this is an interesting comparison because I happen to own both. If I had to cut one...I'd have to think about it. Personally, I don't think I have the WR depth to ditch Curtis and wait several weeks for Johnson to get healthy. So they might be about even in my eyes. Your team might be different, of course.

 
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I agree with much of what was already said. I think where some make mistakes in fantasy leagues is they fail to think ahead. If you are doing well in your league, then keep him for the end of the season, where you make a run for the championship. If you are hurting without him, then you should have drafted better, and you should not settle for a 3rd level reciever for him. Just my opinion.Dead Irish
Huh. AJ was a big piece of my puzzle as a solid #2, with incredible upside in a PPR. His absence means I play two guys who are #2 receivers for their own teams as my #2 and #3. I have lost my last two games since AJ has been out which puts me at 1-2. I am holding off on trading him in hopes of a speedy recovery. If he's not back by week 6, or we still don't know his status, I will listen to offers. And only top of tier 2 guys. I do think he could make a big difference in some fantasy seasons late this year.
 
Andre Johnson, Hou WR

News: Recent x-rays indicate healing in Johnson's injured knee, and he's close to getting back on the field, the Texans' official site reports.

Spin: "He's doing good. Like I said, the pictures that they've taken here lately show that the healing is taking palce. All indications are good. But now it's a matter of getting him back to work. So when [trainer] Kevin [bastin]'s ready to do that and how we go about that will be determined here very shortly, but he's very close to getting ready to start doing something again. Whether that means jumping on the field this week, I don't know," said Texans head coach Gary Kubiak. Johnson has missed two games because of the injury.

 
Andre Johnson, Hou WR

News: Recent x-rays indicate healing in Johnson's injured knee, and he's close to getting back on the field, the Texans' official site reports.

Spin: "He's doing good. Like I said, the pictures that they've taken here lately show that the healing is taking palce. All indications are good. But now it's a matter of getting him back to work. So when [trainer] Kevin [bastin]'s ready to do that and how we go about that will be determined here very shortly, but he's very close to getting ready to start doing something again. Whether that means jumping on the field this week, I don't know," said Texans head coach Gary Kubiak. Johnson has missed two games because of the injury.
I'm not in the medical field, but what injury does Johnson have where an x-ray would show healing. I thought we were talking about soft tissue here; a sprain. Did they mean MRI, is there something else wrong with Johnson's knee, or is an X-ray useful in showing sprain healing and I don't know what I'm talking about? :2cents:
 
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Andre Johnson, Hou WR

News: Recent x-rays indicate healing in Johnson's injured knee, and he's close to getting back on the field, the Texans' official site reports.

Spin: "He's doing good. Like I said, the pictures that they've taken here lately show that the healing is taking palce. All indications are good. But now it's a matter of getting him back to work. So when [trainer] Kevin [bastin]'s ready to do that and how we go about that will be determined here very shortly, but he's very close to getting ready to start doing something again. Whether that means jumping on the field this week, I don't know," said Texans head coach Gary Kubiak. Johnson has missed two games because of the injury.
I'm not in the medical field, but what injury does Johnson have where an x-ray would show healing. I thought we were talking about soft tissue here; a sprain. Did they mean MRI, is there something else wrong with Johnson's knee, or is an X-ray useful in showing sprain healing and I don't know what I'm talking about? :thumbup:
I agree, if they meant MRI, this would make sense. I'm not a doctor, but I don't think soft tissue injuries show up on x-rays.
 
AJ owner just mader an overture for Ced Benson - I am going to respond with a request for AJ, hoping that'll do the trick.

I am actually hurting at WR and need immediate help, but I am deep at RB (LJ, Portis as starters with Betts on the bench). I see the trade as a great one for both of us and a potential playoff move for my 2-2 squad.

I think that is about fair price for AJ.

 
In a different league I am offering up Javon Walker and Deshaun Foster for Andre Johnson and Chester Taylor. I believe this upgrades his team at RB and my team at WR. Since I have Parker, McGahee and Portis DF is just sitting on my bench other than the bye weeks anyway so I don't lose too much. I am hopeful that it is the type of move that will pay off come playoff time, even if it hurts a little now.

 
Last week Aj and K.Keith was traded to the Addai owner for B.Marshall and Roddy White. Good for both teams I think judging from their rosters

 
In a different league I am offering up Javon Walker and Deshaun Foster for Andre Johnson and Chester Taylor. I believe this upgrades his team at RB and my team at WR. Since I have Parker, McGahee and Portis DF is just sitting on my bench other than the bye weeks anyway so I don't lose too much. I am hopeful that it is the type of move that will pay off come playoff time, even if it hurts a little now.
FWIW, I offered DeShaun Foster plus a WR3 (Kevin Curtis or James Jones) for AJ, and was rejected.
 
I think he has great value. Yeah he's out right now but no doubt he is a top 10 WR when he returns. I just got him and Bulger for Schaub and Leonard (the guy is really hurting at RB and QB but has 5 great WRs). When he comes back I will have TO, AJ, and Chad Johnson. Very solid I do say.

 
AJ owner just mader an overture for Ced Benson - I am going to respond with a request for AJ, hoping that'll do the trick.I am actually hurting at WR and need immediate help, but I am deep at RB (LJ, Portis as starters with Betts on the bench). I see the trade as a great one for both of us and a potential playoff move for my 2-2 squad.I think that is about fair price for AJ.
Benson for AJ?? You're out of your mind.
 
Does anyone know how long he is out for?

The Texans bye week is week 10, so it realistically could be until then?

 
Well we have not heard much, but I was under the impression that there was a good chance he would be out until the bye (initially).

 
Current trade on the table that is being mulled over by the AJ owner ....

I give KJones and SHolmes for AJ and Ahman (or DWard)

 
My offer of Minnesota-Defense, K Curtis, & Julius Jones for Andre Johnson got declined this week. The AJ owner needs a D badly & only has 1 healthy RB this week.

So I guess that means AJ's value is almost as high as if he were healthy.

 
this is turning into ac

im content to keep andre on my bench until he returns. an injured player with only a couple years of steady production is always going to be undervalued. if you can get someone equal to johnson you should do it because he'll obviously be more preductive being healthy.

i personally think johnson, when healthy, is a top ten wr and unless you can get that type of value for him you can only wait until he's healthy and then enjoy the high end wr1 production from your wr2.

 
Little different story here because of the players that are involved but to the owner who only has Henry Norwood and Jaml Lewis on his team.

I offered Thomas Jones, Hines Ward Vince Young and Roddy White

For AJ, and Peyton

 
In a redraft, standard scoring league, I am thinking of offering(in light of the Bronco situation) Selvin Young (he has Henry) and Dwayne Bowe for AJ. Too much? Too little?

 
I traded away A Johnson in a dynasty league for Braylon Edwards. I see upside for both.
I wouldn't have done that. Why do you like Edwards more than AJ? Or, what don't you like about AJ?
AJ's week 14-17 playoff schedule looks brutal for one when compared to Edwards'. Both have excellent week 11-13 matchups.
Interestingly enough the AJ owner in my $$ league is down to 3 WR (Driver and DJax the other 2) For a minute I found myself considering offering him Edwards for AJ...Then I remembered my post. :wub:

Perhaps he'll bite on Galloway or Curtis instead. Decimated with injuries- Bulger, Deuce, Caddy, AJ, V.Davis- he is 0-4. I almost feel bad for him.

:goodposting:

:mellow:

 
Offered J Witten/ K Curtis/ M Lynch for J Kitna/ A Johnson last week and turned down.

He countered saying he wanted R Wayne for Kitna and Johnson

I declined seeing as I need the help now and can't really wait on Johnson to return and lose Wayne.

But I am still considering it if I can get a better idea of when Johnson will return.

 
AJ owner just mader an overture for Ced Benson - I am going to respond with a request for AJ, hoping that'll do the trick.

I am actually hurting at WR and need immediate help, but I am deep at RB (LJ, Portis as starters with Betts on the bench). I see the trade as a great one for both of us and a potential playoff move for my 2-2 squad.

I think that is about fair price for AJ.
Benson for AJ?? You're out of your mind.
Care to revisit this comment?
Moe Green said:
A Benson for AJ trade went down in one of my leagues today also. Appears to be a lot of that going around.
BustedKnuckles said:
I just traded cedric benson away and got A.J in return...so i guess is an injured A.J is worth a healthy benson.
 
I traded away A Johnson in a dynasty league for Braylon Edwards. I see upside for both.
I wouldn't have done that. Why do you like Edwards more than AJ? Or, what don't you like about AJ?
AJ's week 14-17 playoff schedule looks brutal for one when compared to Edwards'. Both have excellent week 11-13 matchups.
Interestingly enough the AJ owner in my $$ league is down to 3 WR (Driver and DJax the other 2) For a minute I found myself considering offering him Edwards for AJ...Then I remembered my post. :unsure:

Perhaps he'll bite on Galloway or Curtis instead. Decimated with injuries- Bulger, Deuce, Caddy, AJ, V.Davis- he is 0-4. I almost feel bad for him.

:kicksrock:

:unsure:
Hey, take it to the AC man. Stop pissin in the ool. The nerve.
 
I think AJ is an EXCELLENT buy low candidate for someone that is doing well in their league and has the depth to exchange for a possible stretch run stud. On the flip side, if you're struggling and need the help, you've probably gotta do what you've gotta do to get back into the race.

 

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