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shadyridr

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This moron owner in my league (yes the same idiot owner as before http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...owtopic=349091) just dropped Hines Ward for Nate Washington. His other WRs are Drew Carter, Anthony Gonzalez, Harrison, & Jenkins so he had other options to drop. Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat. That being said theres nothing I can do as commish but suck it up right?

 
That's a tough call. As a fellow commish, I, too, would not want to see one team become so strong that they look nearly impossible to keep. Why did the owner drop Hines Ward? Is he new to fantasy football?

 
Hines Ward is old and banged up. If the guy wants to drop him, let him. We had a guy drop McNabb for Culpepper this week. You can't regulate stupidity.

 
Probably not the smartest move, but I'm quite sure Ward is on the downside of a productive career.
:wub: Ward is 31. Lots of all-star WRs are productive into their mid-30s. Joe Horn had his best season at 32 1/2. Issac Bruce and Jerry Rice were top-10 fantasy WRs at 34 and 39. Marvin Harrison was the #1 fantasy WR last year at the age of 34.
 
Probably not the smartest move, but I'm quite sure Ward is on the downside of a productive career.
:wub: Ward is 31. Lots of all-star WRs are productive into their mid-30s. Joe Horn had his best season at 32 1/2. Issac Bruce and Jerry Rice were top-10 fantasy WRs at 34 and 39. Marvin Harrison was the #1 fantasy WR last year at the age of 34.
Other players' careers have nothing to do with Ward. He beats himself up in the blocking game so it would not shock me if he starts to have lingering injuries.
 
As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.

It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it.

I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.

 
As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.

It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it.

I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.
Why in the world would you need to do this and why would the owners allow you to do this?I cannot imagine one good thing coming out of a commish having blanket authority over an owner shaping his roster.

 
This moron owner in my league (yes the same idiot owner as before http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...owtopic=349091) just dropped Hines Ward for Nate Washington. His other WRs are Drew Carter, Anthony Gonzalez, Harrison, & Jenkins so he had other options to drop. Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat. That being said theres nothing I can do as commish but suck it up right?
What if Ward ends up being unproductive the rest of the year?Even worse, what if Washington does well?

I understand not wanting to allow bad moves, but this one is well into the gray area of being allowable.

 
As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it. I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.
:shrug:Talk to the guy? Nah.Find out why he's dropping the player? No way.Kick him out of the league? Too easy.LET'S GET MORE POWER!!! YEAH!
 
I really don't see much of a problem with his dropping Ward shady.

Is he even playing this week? I thought no. If you want to do something about it put in a bid for Ward yourself or just let the best team in the league go over the top on his bid, limiting his ability to get the next big waiver wire pickup that will invariably appear during the last 2/3 of the season.

 
As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.

It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it.

I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.
Why in the world would you need to do this and why would the owners allow you to do this?I cannot imagine one good thing coming out of a commish having blanket authority over an owner shaping his roster.
:shrug:
 
As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it. I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.
:shrug:Talk to the guy? Nah.Find out why he's dropping the player? No way.Kick him out of the league? Too easy.LET'S GET MORE POWER!!! YEAH!
:lmao:
 
This moron owner in my league (yes the same idiot owner as before http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...owtopic=349091) just dropped Hines Ward for Nate Washington. His other WRs are Drew Carter, Anthony Gonzalez, Harrison, & Jenkins so he had other options to drop. Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat. That being said theres nothing I can do as commish but suck it up right?
if the owner paid his $ then let him manage his team the way he wants to. between this thread and the other thread, you are giving us commissioners a bad name
 
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As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.

It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it.

I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.
Why in the world would you need to do this and why would the owners allow you to do this?I cannot imagine one good thing coming out of a commish having blanket authority over an owner shaping his roster.
The only good thing I can think of is to give me a clear signal that I should find a new league to play in. This came up in another thread and a commish with add/drop approval is possibly the worst rule ever. You have a waiver system in place. This is exactly why people put a waiver system in place.(Off Topic) The other bad thing is using Yahoo's Can't Cut List for a private league. It doesn't react fast enough to address injuries and such.

(On Topic) There is nothing you can do about Ward. It is his right to drop Ward. If several other teams raise a stink then, as commish, you can put it up for vote and reverse if needed, right? Can you prove Ward's value right now? I doubt it.

 
So is the problem that the guy dropped Hines Ward that you value higher than the rest of his WRs...or that you don't have enough Bid money to get him yourself?

As a commish, you have to let things play out, even if you do not like it. Ward might not be the #1 WR after the bye due to Santonio Holmes. What if the Harrison injury is worse than some think and Gonzalez becomes a great #2 for the Colts? Just because you favor players one way, doesn't mean everyone does the same way. You just never know what could happen. Commissioners should not micro manage the league.

I traded away Jamal Lewis after his rookie season to the SB champ in my league. Everyone was upset about it...until he was injured and out for the season. You just never know what can happen.

:mellow:

 
In this case there's nothing you can or should do.

However, there can be times when something should be done. We once had a player who had a terrible start to his season give up and try to cut his entire team, including several top players. I blocked it under the 'Rules Council can take action for things not covered in the rules to preserve the league' clause and added a specific rule disallowing this as a form of collusion.

 
As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.

It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it.

I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.
Why in the world would you need to do this and why would the owners allow you to do this?I cannot imagine one good thing coming out of a commish having blanket authority over an owner shaping his roster.
I do this as well... I do not see it as "blanket authority" as much as it is simply for running our Waivers system properly. CBS does not have a "Priority Waivers Process" by which you pick up a player and drop to the bottom of the priority list which in turn rolls to the next week. (Their system is either based on reverse order of the standings OR it never resets based on the 1st week's order of the season. I need it to reset based on priority...). My league understands the need for the commish to approve the Add/Drops... as it's ONLY used for our Waiver System.Personally, I think the phrase "approve of Add/Drop" is misleading. A commish doesn't "approve" add/drops per se... we simply execute the transaction based on our league set-up. In our case, waivers run Tues-Thurs based on priority and first come, first served any time after 5pm on Thursday... hence the need for the "approve of add/drop" feature.

I read another thread where this feature was called into question... I hope that helps to clear things up a bit. It's not a power-play but simply a tool to help us run our own Waiver System.

 
This moron owner in my league (yes the same idiot owner as before http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...owtopic=349091) just dropped Hines Ward for Nate Washington. His other WRs are Drew Carter, Anthony Gonzalez, Harrison, & Jenkins so he had other options to drop. Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat. That being said theres nothing I can do as commish but suck it up right?
if the owner paid his $ then let him manage his team the way he wants to. between this thread and the other thread, you are giving us commissioners a bad name
Very :thumbup: I don't get where people get off trying to manage other people's teams. In addition to that you have to wonder about the quality of a league when someone is dropping Ward for Washington. :yes:
 
Unless you got some crystal ball, I say stay out of it. As for Ward, I can't believe acquiring him would put ANY team 'over the top'. If Ward were dropped in my league, I do not think I'd have the roster space to even bid on the boy.

Most folks don't do things without a plan. He could be looking to pick up the guy he thinks the 'leading' team plans on dropping. He could have inside info on Roethlisberger and want to get the hell away from him. He might not like guys who's name sounds like a condiment. Whatever the reason, he shouldn't have to divulge it to anyone. If his plan works, everyone will see how crafty the guy is and he'll not get away with it a second time.

Best thing to do, as a player (not a commish) is let him drop Ward, wave your hands at what a terrible move it was, and watch some fool overpay FA bid points to acquire him. It's week 5 - I think FA bid points will still be useful for another week or 10.

 
I think if anything this thread proves there are a lot of opinions out there...and just because the owner who dropped ward has a different opinion then the commish doesnt make it wrong.

guy wants to drop a player...seems dumb to you so be it.

its his team to run.

 
This moron owner in my league (yes the same idiot owner as before http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...owtopic=349091) just dropped Hines Ward for Nate Washington. His other WRs are Drew Carter, Anthony Gonzalez, Harrison, & Jenkins so he had other options to drop. Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat. That being said theres nothing I can do as commish but suck it up right?
if the owner paid his $ then let him manage his team the way he wants to. between this thread and the other thread, you are giving us commissioners a bad name
:confused: You don't deserve to be the commish of your league if you're even considering the things you've been posting about.

 
This moron owner in my league (yes the same idiot owner as before http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...owtopic=349091) just dropped Hines Ward for Nate Washington. His other WRs are Drew Carter, Anthony Gonzalez, Harrison, & Jenkins so he had other options to drop. Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat. That being said theres nothing I can do as commish but suck it up right?
if the owner paid his $ then let him manage his team the way he wants to. between this thread and the other thread, you are giving us commissioners a bad name
I've read enough. This is my thought exactly. You're commissioner, not king. YOu don't get to regulate the rosters. What's next, draft all the teams? You're wanting to control the competition. That's not your job. Ward will be #2 on a team that doesn't pass much? That's if he can come back and perform well. Would I have made the move? Not likely. But, I worry about my team. To me, it sounds like the original commish is po'd, because he spent his cash, and the BEST team (four weeks in?) is going to look better. Not a valid reason to dislike the move.

 
Dude, your too worried over what this owner is doing. Your trying to find ways to boot him. Lay off or find a new gig next year.

 
I'll tell you the other thing dropping this kind of player does. He's going to get scooped up on name recognition alone. As pointed out above, he's hurt and just isn't performing well this year. But, as you already stated yourself, the top team is probably going to spend a ton to get him. If he doesn't, I'm quite sure someone else will. That's awesome. If you look at his stats alone, they don't nearly justify the money that will be spent to acquire him. This just makes getting more worthwhile FA's later one step easier. I just watched a team blow their load on Bulger after someone dropped him. If you've got one of these guys on your roster that have virtually no trade value, dropping them is an option if you can get guys to waste waiver priority or bidding money to get them. Of course, they can turn around and do well, but if you don't have the faith, keeping them on your roster just because doesn't make sense. Sure, the guy coulda dropped one of those other scrubs like Gonzalez, but no one woulda spent the house to get him and there's a good chance that both Gonzalez and Ward have about the same non-startable value by year's end. Dropping Ward was probably the smarter play at this point.

 
As commish, I have to approve all add/drops in my league. I had an issue like this several years ago & implemented that rule to keep it from happening again.

It sounds like the guy is purposely being a jack### when he has useless WRs to drop. Ward has done little this year, so there's no way to prove it.

I really doubt the acquisition of Ward will put any team over the top. He shouldn't even be starting unless you start 3 WRs.
Why in the world would you need to do this and why would the owners allow you to do this?I cannot imagine one good thing coming out of a commish having blanket authority over an owner shaping his roster.
I do this as well... I do not see it as "blanket authority" as much as it is simply for running our Waivers system properly. CBS does not have a "Priority Waivers Process" by which you pick up a player and drop to the bottom of the priority list which in turn rolls to the next week. (Their system is either based on reverse order of the standings OR it never resets based on the 1st week's order of the season. I need it to reset based on priority...). My league understands the need for the commish to approve the Add/Drops... as it's ONLY used for our Waiver System.Personally, I think the phrase "approve of Add/Drop" is misleading. A commish doesn't "approve" add/drops per se... we simply execute the transaction based on our league set-up. In our case, waivers run Tues-Thurs based on priority and first come, first served any time after 5pm on Thursday... hence the need for the "approve of add/drop" feature.

I read another thread where this feature was called into question... I hope that helps to clear things up a bit. It's not a power-play but simply a tool to help us run our own Waiver System.
I can see this logic actually and naturally I will tell you to move to MFL or another service that allows these type of configurations.
 
Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat.
The best thing to happen to your league might be for this owner to get Ward. He may not be 100% until close to November, if not ever this season. He may end up causing lineup decisions between close players, and perhaps this owner will choose wrong more than right. Or he may end up not being nearly as productive as most people suspected when the season began. It's very easy to imagine Hines Ward finishing around the #30 WR for the rest of the season. I fail to see how he will make this mystery team a juggernaut.
 
:deadhorse: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
 
Anyway, the bext team in my league has all their bid money and will bid it all on Ward making his team hard to beat.
The best thing to happen to your league might be for this owner to get Ward. He may not be 100% until close to November, if not ever this season. He may end up causing lineup decisions between close players, and perhaps this owner will choose wrong more than right. Or he may end up not being nearly as productive as most people suspected when the season began. It's very easy to imagine Hines Ward finishing around the #30 WR for the rest of the season. I fail to see how he will make this mystery team a juggernaut.
Yeah ultimately it might not mean much. The problem I have is more the original owner dropping him over Drew Carter or Najeh Davenport moreso than the new owner picking him up. But of course its not my place to run him team. I just wonder what wouldve happened if say he dropped Marvin Harrison and what the reaction in this thread wouldve been.
 
:deadhorse: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
Resident ##### is the guy who is really getting called out for his commish skills.You are getting called out for your player evaluation skills.ETA: How come Resident ##### can use ##### in his username but we can't use it to refer to him in a post? Might be time for me to explore a new alias.
 
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:homer: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
;) because you are upset people do not agree with you. The fact that you try to manage other people's teams does reflect bad on you as a commish. :deadhorse:
 
:lmao: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
:lmao: because you are upset people do not agree with you. The fact that you try to manage other people's teams does reflect bad on you as a commish. :own3d:
Its not like I managed his team or anything. Ward is on waivers in my league ready to be bid on next week and will stay there. I was just curious what happens in other leagues. Is there really any harm in starting a thread about it? What if he dropped Marvin instead of Hines? That would cause a frenzy in any league.
 
:own3d: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
Resident ##### is the guy who is really getting called out for his commish skills.You are getting called out for your player evaluation skills.

ETA: How come Resident ##### can use ##### in his username but we can't use it to refer to him in a post? Might be time for me to explore a new alias.
Is there really a single person on here who can make an argument that Drew Carter is more valuable this year going forward than Hines Ward?
 
:lmao: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
:lmao: because you are upset people do not agree with you. The fact that you try to manage other people's teams does reflect bad on you as a commish. :own3d:
Its not like I managed his team or anything. Ward is on waivers in my league ready to be bid on next week and will stay there. I was just curious what happens in other leagues. Is there really any harm in starting a thread about it? What if he dropped Marvin instead of Hines? That would cause a frenzy in any league.
What if?
 
:lmao: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
:lmao: because you are upset people do not agree with you. The fact that you try to manage other people's teams does reflect bad on you as a commish. :lmao:
Its not like I managed his team or anything. Ward is on waivers in my league ready to be bid on next week and will stay there. I was just curious what happens in other leagues. Is there really any harm in starting a thread about it? What if he dropped Marvin instead of Hines? That would cause a frenzy in any league.
What if?
:own3d: The way this guys been doing things the last 2 years, dont be surprised if I bump this saying that he did in fact drop Harrison soon. :lol:
 
:own3d: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
It doesnt matter if you did anything, its the problem of your thinking. Your just waiting in the wings to pounce, because for some reason you dont think he is up to your standards. Not everyone is a shark, some guppies like to play because they find enjoyment out of it, and are not in it to compete. This guy has done nothing to disrobe the integrity of this league, yet your just itching to replace him. That right there calls in your commisioner skills. If your that kinda commisioner get rid of all the last place finishers, then replace them with owners that pass your test. Interview them and see how great their knowledge of the game is. Place scenarios "Your team is 3-1, and your slacking at wide reciever what do you do?" If there answer is drop Hines Ward, then most likely they failed the interview.
 
:lmao: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
It doesnt matter if you did anything, its the problem of your thinking. Your just waiting in the wings to pounce, because for some reason you dont think he is up to your standards. Not everyone is a shark, some guppies like to play because they find enjoyment out of it, and are not in it to compete. This guy has done nothing to disrobe the integrity of this league, yet your just itching to replace him. That right there calls in your commisioner skills. If your that kinda commisioner get rid of all the last place finishers, then replace them with owners that pass your test. Interview them and see how great their knowledge of the game is. Place scenarios "Your team is 3-1, and your slacking at wide reciever what do you do?" If there answer is drop Hines Ward, then most likely they failed the interview.
:own3d: I dont think there's anything wrong with trying to get 12 owners who make the league as competitive as possible. I guess thats just my line of thinking though. If the other 11 owners were idiots and I was the only smart one the league wouldnt be very fun.
 
People are taking way too many shots at shadryridr. I don't see what he has done here that's wrong.

Anyway, this scenario brings up an interesting aspect of FF leagues. Most people assume that the hardest league to win is an all "shark" league. Of course, they're not easy, but they're usually more predictable than a hybrid league where there are some hard core guys and some a little less into it. Sometimes those leagues are more fun because the people in them make maverick moves. So depending on the type of player you are and how well you read people and keep your options open and expect the unexpected, sometimes it's harder to win championships in one of these more eclectic leagues.

 
:lmao: at people calling me out on my commish skills cuz I started a thread on a fantasy football message board. Its not like I did anything regarding this drop.
It doesnt matter if you did anything, its the problem of your thinking. Your just waiting in the wings to pounce, because for some reason you dont think he is up to your standards. Not everyone is a shark, some guppies like to play because they find enjoyment out of it, and are not in it to compete. This guy has done nothing to disrobe the integrity of this league, yet your just itching to replace him. That right there calls in your commisioner skills. If your that kinda commisioner get rid of all the last place finishers, then replace them with owners that pass your test. Interview them and see how great their knowledge of the game is. Place scenarios "Your team is 3-1, and your slacking at wide reciever what do you do?" If there answer is drop Hines Ward, then most likely they failed the interview.
:own3d: I dont think there's anything wrong with trying to get 12 owners who make the league as competitive as possible. I guess thats just my line of thinking though. If the other 11 owners were idiots and I was the only smart one the league wouldnt be very fun.
There is nothing wrong with making competitve, but what are you going to tell the other owners, I kicked this guy out of the league becasue he dropped Ward? Id would then tell myself, Id better watch every move I make, or im going to be next, now what kind of fun is that? It isnt, Id be looking for another league.
 
Hines Ward is old and banged up. If the guy wants to drop him, let him. We had a guy drop McNabb for Culpepper this week. You can't regulate stupidity.
:own3d: Stupid people do stupid things and every league's got a couple chumps.I had a guy give me Larry Johnson for Jason Witten. :lmao:
 

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