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Brodie Croyle & Cleo Lemon (1 Viewer)

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In leagues where you can start 2 QBs the pickins for QBs on the WW are pretty slim. Chances are these two guys are probably available but are they worth anything? Do either have value as keepers?

Does anyone care to weigh in on either of these two QBs?

 
I had high hopes for Croyle, but he played himself out of the starting job. I think he'll improve, but you can't expect much this year. I think Herm wants him to be the starter, so as long as he doesn't play horribly, he'll keep it.

I also liked Lemon for the short term, and expect him to do well. The problem is that if he doesn't, Beck is waiting. Shorter leash, but more potential to do well with that leash.

Personally, I'd take Lemon right now.

 
I don't know how much it matters but Croyle has the either schedule, especially in the playoffs

Croyle: Cin, @Oak, GB, Den, @Ind, Oak, SD, @Den, Ten, @Det, @NYJ

Lemon: @Cle, NE, NYG, Buf, @Phi, @Pit, NYJ, @Buf, Bal, @NE, Cin

 
Croyle is likely the better keeper and dynasty play but he might not even be starting this week, yet for the rest of the year. That said, I'm still picking him up in all three of my leagues.

 
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Was Croyle announced as the starter next week??
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I thought that Huard was ruled out. Here is what CBS says:
According to the Kansas City Star, Chiefs QB Damon Huard left Sunday's game against Jacksonville because of what the Chiefs described as a right shoulder injury. They weren't more specific with details but have ruled Huard out of next week's game against Cincinnati. That means Brodie Croyle will start against the Bengals.
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-OZ- said:
I had high hopes for Croyle, but he played himself out of the starting job. I think he'll improve, but you can't expect much this year. I think Herm wants him to be the starter, so as long as he doesn't play horribly, he'll keep it. I also liked Lemon for the short term, and expect him to do well. The problem is that if he doesn't, Beck is waiting. Shorter leash, but more potential to do well with that leash.Personally, I'd take Lemon right now.
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I agree with most of this - for dynasty, Croyle is definitely better than Lemon because, as Oz mentioned, 2nd round pick John Beck is the future in Miami. Short term is a little fuzzy - I haven't seen enough of either Croyle or Lemon to say either way, but they're both inexperienced QB's on awful teams, so flip a coin. Ni
 
Godsbrother said:
phowler13 said:
Was Croyle announced as the starter next week??
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I thought that Huard was ruled out. Here is what CBS says:
According to the Kansas City Star, Chiefs QB Damon Huard left Sunday's game against Jacksonville because of what the Chiefs described as a right shoulder injury. They weren't more specific with details but have ruled Huard out of next week's game against Cincinnati. That means Brodie Croyle will start against the Bengals.
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NFL Network reports that the MRI on Chiefs QB Damon Huard's shoulder showed no damage and he could be available in Week 6.Huard was very sore following the loss to the Jaguars, but the injury is being called a bruise. It was feared he would be forced out of the lineup with Brodie Croyle stepping in, but Huard could be a decent option against a porous Bengals if he can play. Oct. 9 - 4:37 pm et
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Could be wrong but I thought i heard on the 2 minute drill on Sirius that Huard is now the starter this week...i hope im wrong...hes my BYE guy!!

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I guess it all comes down to if he practices today:

Posted on Tue, Oct. 09, 2007 10:15 PM Chiefs waiting to see how Huard does in practiceBy RANDY COVITZThe Kansas City StarAbout noon today, all eyes on the Chiefs’ practice field will focus on quarterback Damon Huard.If he can throw the deep outs, the skinny posts and the seam routes accurately and painlessly, he will start Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals at Arrowhead Stadium.If the passes lack velocity — or if Huard’s bruised right shoulder causes him to wince in pain — second-year man Brodie Croyle is poised to make his first NFL start.Although a source said last Sunday that Huard would not play against the Bengals, an MRI taken after the 17-7 loss to Jacksonville showed that Huard had no long-term damage to his shoulder, coach Herm Edwards said Tuesday. Huard was driven to the ground after a pass was intercepted by the Jaguars.“He feels a lot better,” Edwards said. “He’s worked out the last two days, and he felt OK (Tuesday). But he hasn’t thrown.“We’ll go through our practice schedule like we always go. Brodie takes a lot of (snaps) that he’s always done. We’ll see where Damon is, and if he can go, and he feels good, then he’ll go.”Edwards said he doesn’t feel obligated to make a final determination on the starter today.“I’ll just see how practice goes,” he said. “But I think if he’s willing to practice (today), that helps make that decision a little easier. If he starts to go (today) already, it means he should get better as the week goes on, hopefully.”Huard was not available to speak to reporters Tuesday, which is the players’ day off.“He’s OK,” Edwards said. “He’s sore. I didn’t get all the details. He’s done all his lifting that he normally does on Mondays and Tuesdays, but he hasn’t thrown a pass yet. We have to see when he starts throwing how he feels.”Edwards did not want to put any percentages on Huard’s availability and said his wait-and-see approach was not a ploy to keep the Bengals guessing.“He’s coming along fine,” Edwards said, “but I don’t want to make that assumption without watching him throw.”Even if Huard is not 100 percent, that wouldn’t rule him out, Edwards said.“He has nothing to do with the running game,” Edwards said of an attack that managed just 10 yards in last week’s loss to Jacksonville. “Hopefully he doesn’t try to throw blocks. He has to pass the football and manage the football team.”During the Chiefs’ 2-3 start, Huard has completed 65 percent of his attempts, has thrown four touchdown passes and six interceptions, and has a passer rating of 77.3.Croyle, in mop-up roles in losses to Chicago and Jacksonville, has completed 10 of 17 passes with one touchdown, no interceptions and a 104.5 rating.When he was coach of the New York Jets in 2002, Edwards replaced veteran Vinny Testaverde after four games with Chad Pennington, a first-round draft pick in 2000.“You make that change if we’re turning the ball over a lot, and if we’re not putting points on the board,” Edwards said.Huard has thrown six interceptions in 149 attempts — compared with one interception in 244 attempts last season — and the Chiefs have scored but five offensive touchdowns all season.But …“It’s not just the quarterback,” Edwards said. “There are a lot of things that go into this. You’ve got to make sure when you decide to make that change, you’re doing it for the right reasons, you’re not doing it on emotion, you’re weighing all the facts. It’s difficult right now because we’re playing a little bit one-handed. We’re passing it halfway decent, but when we get (inside the 20), we’re not capitalizing.“There comes a time when you keep watching yourself play, and you say, ‘You know what, I might need a spark,’ and you decide and say, ‘I’m going to go this way.’“I’m not thinking that way at all. I’m thinking, ‘If (Huard is) available, he’s going to play.’ ”
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Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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I can beleive someone has a team that is so bad (or may of had an injury to a QB) that they have to consider one of these 2 bottom feeders but I doubt the bum comes into play. If he does, they need to re-evaluate their draft strategy. QB being most important position as I have said from day one of playing this game (it's showing this year more than ever - how's that LJ/LT/SJ action going?). You grab 2 guys that are secure as the QB and are durable. In my case, Favrelicious and Eli.For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
 
FavreCo said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
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In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
 
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Lemon is not the answer in Miami long term. Theyve got John Beck waiting to take over. Just a matter of time. Croyle is expected to be the guy in KC, but they guy is small, fragile and plays behind a pretty weak Oline. he's gonna get killed whenever he takes over. I wouldnt want any part of either guy. jmho.

but forced to choose, Id go with Croyle because atleast he's looked at as the future with his team.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
FavreCo said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
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In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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Agreed. Neither is any great shakes, but in a 2 QB dynasty, they both have significant value right now. I hate when arrogant people spout about things they have no knowledge of. Yeah, I'll just go get Favre off of the waiver wire, thanks Buddy.As for the two, I'd rather have Lemon, despite Beck. Beck has looked good and is likely to be the future, but it's not like he was a huge investment and if Lemon plays well and turns the team around, it wouldn't be the first time an unheralded QB came out of nowhere to become a solid fantasy option.Croyle on the other hand, just looks bad to me. He's a 3rd round pick with a career 11.9 QB rating (yes, extremely small sample size, but I think it's funny). I think he had his last legit shot this preseason. KC DESPERATELY wanted this guy to be the starter, but he just never looked anything like a starting caliber QB.
 
Doctor Detroit said:
FavreCo said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
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In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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top 5 FA QB's in my dynasty league, in terms of points scored:Huard, Damon KCCMcCown, Josh OAKFrerotte, Gus STLBoller, Kyle BALHolcomb, Kelly MINThese are all back-ups who had one good game, except for Huard. This is a 12 team dynasty, with 37 QB's presently rostered. I think the guy who is stuck with Joey Harrington as his back-up might be interested in finding an alternative long-term back-up plan. Last year, I was stuck trying to start Huard because my back-up QB fell through. One really needs to roster three QB's in dynasty, IMO.DD> personally, I like Lemon for 2007, but I doubt he will be starting in 2008. Might not be a bad play to grab two QB's here - Lemon and Croyle-or-Beck.
 
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FavreCo said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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I can beleive someone has a team that is so bad (or may of had an injury to a QB) that they have to consider one of these 2 bottom feeders but I doubt the bum comes into play. If he does, they need to re-evaluate their draft strategy. QB being most important position as I have said from day one of playing this game (it's showing this year more than ever - how's that LJ/LT/SJ action going?). You grab 2 guys that are secure as the QB and are durable. In my case, Favrelicious and Eli.For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
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Actually, the LJ/LT/SJ action is going much better than the Leinert/Brees/Smith action, thank you. So you have Favre and Eli. Since the original question specified a start 2 QB league, who's your 2nd starter when one of them is on bye? Different leagues, different problems. 12 teams, 3 QB's per team = 36 QB's. Hard not to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
 
moleculo said:
Doctor Detroit said:
FavreCo said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
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In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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top 5 FA QB's in my dynasty league, in terms of points scored:Huard, Damon KCCMcCown, Josh OAKFrerotte, Gus STLBoller, Kyle BALHolcomb, Kelly MINThese are all back-ups who had one good game, except for Huard. This is a 12 team dynasty, with 37 QB's presently rostered. I think the guy who is stuck with Joey Harrington as his back-up might be interested in finding an alternative long-term back-up plan. Last year, I was stuck trying to start Huard because my back-up QB fell through. One really needs to roster three QB's in dynasty, IMO.DD> personally, I like Lemon for 2007, but I doubt he will be starting in 2008. Might not be a bad play to grab two QB's here - Lemon and Croyle-or-Beck.
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I think the point is and you certainly understand what I was trying to convey: Dynasty plays are very different.Think about the Qbs over the past two years alone? Romo, Garrard, Campbell, Anderson, Rivers two years ago, Schaub??? People who had Vick last year, did they have Schaub because of his upside? I hope so or I hope someone else grabbed him. Campbell was a terrible short-term play at the beginning of last year, as was Schaub but I'll bet they were rostered in most leagues. How many people had Romo rostered at the beginning of last season? Who had Garrard? Point is Croyle could be a good play next year or even this year and there is no telling how good guys are going to be. Kurt Warner played in the World League and Tony Romo was a guy who in 2005 hadn't taken a snap, was almost cut for Quincy Carter, and almost traded to the Saints!
 
Croyle appears to have the greater upside to me for Week 6 as well as the rest of the season and even more so next year if you are in a Dynasty situation.

I just picked him up in a start 2 QB league that takes a lot of QB's off the WW board. The fact is, there just isn't a lot out there so I'm going to roll with Croyle and his matchup vs CIN this week.

Huard may end up being the starter this week but I would think that KC would want to give Croyle a shot now vs CIN and next week vs OAK rather than wait until week 10 vs DEN.

Cleo Lemmon just doesn't appear to have much upside to me. Week 6 matchup is good vs CLE but then weeks 7 and 8 vs NE and NYG don't look optimum to me. Lemmon might be decent since he does have a rushing game for balance to go with Chambers but we haven't seen much production out of the MIA passing game. Chambers is WR1 with zero TD's, Booker is WR2 with one TD, Brown is #2 in receiving yardage and a TD and TE Pelle has two TD's but only 7 receptions for 75 yards (no McMichael this year).

I'd rather start a guy who has the options of Bowe and Gonzo because I think you can lock Bowe into about one TD per game and Croyles strong arm can stretch the defense enough to give balance to the KC offense and then the running game can work as well and then you'll see sustained drives.

Can Croyle stay healthy at 6-2 206? There are other NFL QB's that were/are skinny (frail is not accurate at this point) Brees is 6-0 205, Garcia 6-1 205 but typical size for NFL QB is about 220 lbs so I would agree that Croyle needs to put some meat on his bones to help cushion the blows when DL's pancake and roll him up.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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You wish. If I was looking for a future QB in dynasty and was allowed to stick a 3rd QB on my roster (which we are not), it sure as hell wouldn't be either of these 2 hacks. It would be Kellen Clemons - that's upside. Not a frail QB on a Herminator offense or a career backup on a team that drafted Beck in the 2nd round. Hence my dynasty abilities. You are the one who is wrong thinking either of these bums are anything.
 
Holy Schneikes said:
Agreed. Neither is any great shakes, but in a 2 QB dynasty, they both have significant value right now. I hate when arrogant people spout about things they have no knowledge of. Yeah, I'll just go get Favre off of the waiver wire, thanks Buddy.
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:shrug: See my previous post and learn something. Lemon: :lmao: Croyle: :lmao:
 
FavreCo said:
Doctor Detroit said:
In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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Hence my dynasty abilities. You are the one who is wrong thinking either of these bums are anything.
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Link?Link to where you have been right before about the potential of an NFL QB? I'll hang up and listen. :shrug:
 
FavreCo said:
Doctor Detroit said:
In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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You wish. If I was looking for a future QB in dynasty and was allowed to stick a 3rd QB on my roster (which we are not), it sure as hell wouldn't be either of these 2 hacks. It would be Kellen Clemons - that's upside. Not a frail QB on a Herminator offense or a career backup on a team that drafted Beck in the 2nd round. Hence my dynasty abilities. You are the one who is wrong thinking either of these bums are anything.
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I don't know id this is a fishing trip or not, but Clemons is LONG gone in any 2 QB league. Yes, I would rather have Clemons than either of them, but that is COMPLETELY irrelevant.Just stop already. In your leagues, those guys may be worthless. In deep leagues (particularly start 2 QB), they aren't. Different leagues, different rules. Is that really so difficult to grasp?Oh, and BTW, a dynasty league that only allows 2 QBs on a roster is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard here in a while.
 
Holy Schneikes said:
FavreCo said:
Doctor Detroit said:
In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty."

So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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You wish. If I was looking for a future QB in dynasty and was allowed to stick a 3rd QB on my roster (which we are not), it sure as hell wouldn't be either of these 2 hacks. It would be Kellen Clemons - that's upside. Not a frail QB on a Herminator offense or a career backup on a team that drafted Beck in the 2nd round. Hence my dynasty abilities. You are the one who is wrong thinking either of these bums are anything.
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I don't know id this is a fishing trip or not, but Clemons is LONG gone in any 2 QB league. Yes, I would rather have Clemons than either of them, but that is COMPLETELY irrelevant.Just stop already. In your leagues, those guys may be worthless. In deep leagues (particularly start 2 QB), they aren't. Different leagues, different rules. Is that really so difficult to grasp?

Oh, and BTW, a dynasty league that only allows 2 QBs on a roster is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard here in a while.
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It's the same Shark Pool shtick that has been here for years. Call someone dumb, don't offer any background as to why you are such a guru, over or misuse of the emoticons, eventual suspension, return, more dumb shtick, another suspension and we'll never see him again. It's the circle of life here at FGB.
 
FavreCo said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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I can beleive someone has a team that is so bad (or may of had an injury to a QB) that they have to consider one of these 2 bottom feeders but I doubt the bum comes into play. If he does, they need to re-evaluate their draft strategy. QB being most important position as I have said from day one of playing this game (it's showing this year more than ever - how's that LJ/LT/SJ action going?). You grab 2 guys that are secure as the QB and are durable. In my case, Favrelicious and Eli.For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
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Dynasty means you don't get to draft every year. You don't get a chance to grab anyone, and are stuck with what you had. It is very likly that you came into the year with Green and say Bulger on your roster, and were one of the strongest at the position for the last 5 years. But this year you are hurting and are looking at what is avaliable.Long term, I'm not sure any of these two will be more than a jorneyman back-up type of guy. I do think that Croyle has the better chance of starting at the end of this season for the Chiefs, than Lemon for the Phins. As many have already said, I think Lemon is just holding the spot until they feel Beck is ready, and I would assume that come week 10 or so, they are going to think Beck is ready.
 
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I will let you guys know if Huard practices today......I will be working the New blog and will be listening to Sports Radio 810 here in KC for their updates.....from what I can tell from Adam Teicher's piece, it is simple.....if Huard practices, he will play.

 
apalmer said:
FavreCo said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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I can beleive someone has a team that is so bad (or may of had an injury to a QB) that they have to consider one of these 2 bottom feeders but I doubt the bum comes into play. If he does, they need to re-evaluate their draft strategy. QB being most important position as I have said from day one of playing this game (it's showing this year more than ever - how's that LJ/LT/SJ action going?). You grab 2 guys that are secure as the QB and are durable. In my case, Favrelicious and Eli.For Dynasty neither is even remotely a good play. Check the coach over in KC. If he scores 17 points he is in love with himself. Top it off, Croyle is frail. Behind that OL, he won't last. Miami sucks and will so for a long, long time. Ted Ginn gets the assist.
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Actually, the LJ/LT/SJ action is going much better than the Leinert/Brees/Smith action, thank you. So you have Favre and Eli. Since the original question specified a start 2 QB league, who's your 2nd starter when one of them is on bye? Different leagues, different problems. 12 teams, 3 QB's per team = 36 QB's. Hard not to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
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Doctor Detroit said:
FavreCo said:
Doctor Detroit said:
In a 12 team dynasty or more with 20 players per roster, a young QB with any upside is usually a player you'd like to roster. And you are missing the point with both when it comes to a dynasty, things change over the course of a year or two. Hence the term "dynasty." So let me sum this up: You're wrong.
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Hence my dynasty abilities. You are the one who is wrong thinking either of these bums are anything.
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Link?Link to where you have been right before about the potential of an NFL QB? I'll hang up and listen. :lmao:
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Has he ever had anything worthwhile to say?
 
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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He obviously doesn't play in deep leagues or start 2 QB. With Delhomme down, I was left with Huard as my 2nd QB in a start 2 QB league... so this topic is big for me. With all the other QB turnover this year (Delhomme, Leinart, Jackson, Bulger, Green, Frye, McCown, Smith, McNair), I bet Croyle and Lemon will be starting in more start 2 QB leagues than not over the coming weeks. FavreCo.... why even waste your time reading the topic?
 
Legion of Doom said:
Try playing in a start 2 QB league before you tell us these guys don't have any value. Makes you look really naive!
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Now THAT is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in here possibly ever. Can you show me where an NFL starts 2 QB's on their team? Talk about stupid. Why would anyone ever play in a league that stupid? The reason for 2 QB's only plus a rookie squad (which could be a 3rd QB) is that you have 9 starters and 9 reserves. This was a standard setup 15+ years ago when we started.

Start 2 QB's is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard in fantasy football.

 
FavreCo said:
Legion of Doom said:
Try playing in a start 2 QB league before you tell us these guys don't have any value. Makes you look really naive!
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Now THAT is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in here possibly ever. Can you show me where an NFL starts 2 QB's on their team? Talk about stupid. Why would anyone ever play in a league that stupid? The reason for 2 QB's only plus a rookie squad (which could be a 3rd QB) is that you have 9 starters and 9 reserves. This was a standard setup 15+ years ago when we started.

Start 2 QB's is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard in fantasy football.
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Wow.
 
murzman said:
Godsbrother said:
FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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He obviously doesn't play in deep leagues or start 2 QB. With Delhomme down, I was left with Huard as my 2nd QB in a start 2 QB league... so this topic is big for me. With all the other QB turnover this year (Delhomme, Leinart, Jackson, Bulger, Green, Frye, McCown, Smith, McNair), I bet Croyle and Lemon will be starting in more start 2 QB leagues than not over the coming weeks. FavreCo.... why even waste your time reading the topic?
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You are right. It was bad enough of a topic when the discussion was Miss Cleo vs Frail Croyle. Then when it was mentioned that someone actually plays in a league where they START 2 QB's, I gotta leave. Grab both of them and start them.
 
FavreCo said:
Legion of Doom said:
Try playing in a start 2 QB league before you tell us these guys don't have any value. Makes you look really naive!
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Now THAT is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in here possibly ever. Can you show me where an NFL starts 2 QB's on their team? Talk about stupid. Why would anyone ever play in a league that stupid? The reason for 2 QB's only plus a rookie squad (which could be a 3rd QB) is that you have 9 starters and 9 reserves. This was a standard setup 15+ years ago when we started.

Start 2 QB's is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard in fantasy football.
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ool...please keep educating us with your wisdom..TIA.:unravelsmorerope:

 
I like Lemon over these others for a couple of reasons. I did some research on him when he was traded to miami last year and from what I read the guy was a pretty good player that the coaches in SD were really in love with. His career before that was not bad by any stretch of the word, though I don't remember the specifics I think he played in NFL europe or the CFL or something and was very accurate and made good decisions. He never really got a shot to even show himself in a game until he got to Miami though, and then he was surrounded by a pretty lame-duck team with Saban. Many here seem to be saying that the reason not to like him is his team, but I believe he is a FA next season, and with Carolina pulling out the Vinny Testeverde card, it seems to me that he could have a shot at going to another team next year and starting. That alone is worth stashing him in a dynasty league, but I also really liked his character. He is not a hot head hot shot, but rather a mature minded player interested in forwarding his career as an NFL QB. Anyway, I would rather pick up a veteran in his position and see what happens than grab some rookie who could easily turn up bust. Just my Opinion.

 
FavreCo said:
Legion of Doom said:
Try playing in a start 2 QB league before you tell us these guys don't have any value. Makes you look really naive!
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Now THAT is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in here possibly ever. Can you show me where an NFL starts 2 QB's on their team? Talk about stupid. Why would anyone ever play in a league that stupid? The reason for 2 QB's only plus a rookie squad (which could be a 3rd QB) is that you have 9 starters and 9 reserves. This was a standard setup 15+ years ago when we started.

Start 2 QB's is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard in fantasy football.
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Only allowed to have 2 QB's on your roster? Can you show me where an NFL team is only allowed to have 2 QB's on their roster? By your reasoning, your league is ridiculous. Why would anyone play in a stupid league like that? Dumbest thing I've ever heard of in fantasy football.
 
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If anyone wonders why a lot of long-time posters don't bother with the SP anymore, this thread is a great illustration.
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Yep My sig should be mandatory for shark pool use,lol. That said there is still quality info in the pool.It is still the single greatest fantasy foorball resource on the planet. :unsure:
 
Shooter McGavin said:
If anyone wonders why a lot of long-time posters don't bother with the SP anymore, this thread is a great illustration.
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there have been alot of bad new members popping up but this favre dude is by far the worstmaybe not the worst but definately the most prevalenthe adds absolutely nothing constructive to any conversations here
 
FavreCo said:
Legion of Doom said:
Try playing in a start 2 QB league before you tell us these guys don't have any value. Makes you look really naive!
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Now THAT is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in here possibly ever. Can you show me where an NFL starts 2 QB's on their team? Talk about stupid. Why would anyone ever play in a league that stupid? The reason for 2 QB's only plus a rookie squad (which could be a 3rd QB) is that you have 9 starters and 9 reserves. This was a standard setup 15+ years ago when we started.

Start 2 QB's is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard in fantasy football.
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How many NFL teams start a flex position or require a TE to be in on every play?
 
FavreCo said:
murzman said:
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FavreCo said:
Would you like a spatula to scrape one of these clowns off the botton of the barrel?
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Believe it or not there are leagues (especially keeper & dynasty) where these guys come into play...
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He obviously doesn't play in deep leagues or start 2 QB. With Delhomme down, I was left with Huard as my 2nd QB in a start 2 QB league... so this topic is big for me. With all the other QB turnover this year (Delhomme, Leinart, Jackson, Bulger, Green, Frye, McCown, Smith, McNair), I bet Croyle and Lemon will be starting in more start 2 QB leagues than not over the coming weeks. FavreCo.... why even waste your time reading the topic?
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You are right. It was bad enough of a topic when the discussion was Miss Cleo vs Frail Croyle. Then when it was mentioned that someone actually plays in a league where they START 2 QB's, I gotta leave. Grab both of them and start them.
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Lots of leagues require owners to go really deep there. If that's not your league, keep it to yourself. TIA.J
 
Just posted to blogger.........

October 10, 2007, 15:58

Chiefs :: QB

QB Huard Looks Good As He Tests Shoulder

Randy Covitz, Kansas City Star - [Full Article]

Kansas City Chiefs QB Damon Huard, whose status for Sunday's game against Cincinnati has been in question because of a bruised right shoulder, took part in individual passing drills on Wednesday. Huard alternated with backup Brodie Croyle in working with both the first and second units and did not appear limited in any of his throws, nor did he appear to to be in any pain stemming from a shoulder bruise sustained against the Jaguars. Huard was in full pads, but it was not certain how much throwing he did in full team work. Reporters are not allowed to watch that portion of practice.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/311441.html

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I will post again when Herm has his presser.....we should know what happened in the team portion.

 
It is official..........

October 10, 2007, 16:26

Chiefs :: QB

QB Huard Will Start Vs. Bengals

Randy Covitz, Kansas City Star - [Full Article]

Kansas City Chiefs HC Herman Edwards announced after Wednesday's practice that QB Damon Huard will start Sunday against the Bengals. According to Edwards, Huard took part in all phases of the offense and did not show any evidence of pain from the shoulder injury suffered in last week's loss to Jacksonville. "It felt fine," said Huard, who declined to elaborate until his regularly scheduled Thursday session with reporters.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/311613.html

 
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