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ForWhoForWhat
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I wonder if Faulk gets GL carries or if Evans and/or Eckel vulture them.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Almost 100% sure Evans will get all goalline carries. But Faulk is the guy to start here.
ForWhoForWhat
Footballguy
My league scoring is 6 pts per TD, 1 pt every 25 yards, no bonus points for 100 yards, and no PPR. That would make Evans the start here, or Eckel. Yuck, maybe I'll just stay away.
jchapman70
Footballguy
You must question yourself first before spending the money on a free agent. How often does New England need someone to plow it in from less than 3 yards?
Patriots | Maroney reportedly out for Week 7 - Wed Oct 17 8:59:00 p.m. ET 2007
(KFFL) The Associated Press reports New England Patriots RB Laurence Maroney (groin) ran well in practice Wednesday, Oct. 17, but he took some plays off. He is reportedly out for the team's Week 7 game against the Miami Dolphins.
Does this guy even play football anymore? He's starting to make Fred Taylor look like an iron man.
(KFFL) The Associated Press reports New England Patriots RB Laurence Maroney (groin) ran well in practice Wednesday, Oct. 17, but he took some plays off. He is reportedly out for the team's Week 7 game against the Miami Dolphins.
Does this guy even play football anymore? He's starting to make Fred Taylor look like an iron man.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Why would they play him now, and against the Dolphins?
Why would they ever play him? Better to keep him healthy forever than to risk a potential football injury . . .
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Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
HA HA HA - LOL TOTALLY!!111
duaneok66
Footballguy
classic . . .
David Yudkin
Footballguy
As I pointed out in the other thread, this rport IS WRONG.
Here is the actual article they were citing:
LINK
And here is the actual quote:
Here is the actual article they were citing:
LINK
And here is the actual quote:
That being said, Maroney is not a lock to play, and my guy behind the scenes just indicated to me that we should expect nothing different this week and Maroney will AGAIN be a game time decision.So anything anyone sees saying Maroney will or will not play between now and then is pure speculation and far from fact. At this point no one will be able to answer that accurately, as no decision has been made either way.
Laurence Maroney: Runs Well Wednesday
RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
Update: Maroney (groin) ran well in practice Wednesday, but took some plays off, the Associated Press reports.
Recommendation: At this point, the signs seem to point to a Maroney return Sunday against the Dolphins. With Sammy Morris out, Kevin Faulk, Kyle Eckel and Heath Evans would be available to spell Maroney this weekend, assuming he suits up.
RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
Update: Maroney (groin) ran well in practice Wednesday, but took some plays off, the Associated Press reports.
Recommendation: At this point, the signs seem to point to a Maroney return Sunday against the Dolphins. With Sammy Morris out, Kevin Faulk, Kyle Eckel and Heath Evans would be available to spell Maroney this weekend, assuming he suits up.
xenith
Footballguy
Does appear there was a conflicting misprint with the AP story, but that they were trying to say he should return this week. Regardless, I think Faulk is a good FLEX play in PPR format.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Faulk is a decent play this week regardles if Maroney plays or not. I will check again tomorrow to see if there is any movement on the Maroney front, but my guy is telling me that it does not appear that NE is handling Maroney any different in practice so far this week than the last few weeks and he thinks it will be another GTD.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I believe Evans is the play here... even if Maroney does comeback.... this game will be out of hand early and NE will be running the ball alot... Evans will be in for a lot of late game yds and a TD.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Why would they rest their 3rd string RB in a blowout to give carries to their starting FB?
PatrickT
Footballguy
My guess would be because that's what they did in '05 when Dillon missed time. At least that's what I remember, could be wrong. I _think_ Faulk was still there and healthy and they gave most of the work to Evans. I seem to remember being kinda ticked off about that, cause I had Faulk on my roster.Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.
Sleeper 43
Footballguy
duaneok66
Footballguy
he is right . . .http://www.pro-football-reference.com/game...anHe00.htm#2005My guess would be because that's what they did in '05 when Dillon missed time. At least that's what I remember, could be wrong. I _think_ Faulk was still there and healthy and they gave most of the work to Evans. I seem to remember being kinda ticked off about that, cause I had Faulk on my roster.Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
IMO, Evans will only see plays on 3rd and 4th and short (1 or 2 yards to go) and maybe a goal line look, but the Pats haven't exactly had many of those this year. Just look at how the Cowboys game went for a road map of what their plan for RBs is.Maroney coming back would alter that a bit, but I can't see Maroney with a full workload his first game back. I have Faulk down for 10-12 carries, 4-5 receptions, and 75-80 yards with a 50/50 chance of a TD depending upon where the Pats drive to. I doubt Faulk will score from outside the red zone, so they need to get near the 5 or 10 yard line for him to get in the end zone this week. And that opinion is with Maroney in or out of the lineup this week.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Evans only played that much because Faulk was hurt those two games.he is right . . .http://www.pro-football-reference.com/game...anHe00.htm#2005My guess would be because that's what they did in '05 when Dillon missed time. At least that's what I remember, could be wrong. I _think_ Faulk was still there and healthy and they gave most of the work to Evans. I seem to remember being kinda ticked off about that, cause I had Faulk on my roster.Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.
duaneok66
Footballguy
good point . . . still, Evans figures to get short yardage carries over the lighter Faulk . . . of course, its a moot point if Maroney is back . . .Evans only played that much because Faulk was hurt those two games.he is right . . .http://www.pro-football-reference.com/game...anHe00.htm#2005My guess would be because that's what they did in '05 when Dillon missed time. At least that's what I remember, could be wrong. I _think_ Faulk was still there and healthy and they gave most of the work to Evans. I seem to remember being kinda ticked off about that, cause I had Faulk on my roster.Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
October 18, 2007
Maroney checks in
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff
FOXBOROUGH -- Running back Laurence Maroney, who has missed the last three games with a groin injury, drew a large media crowd in the locker room today. Maroney did not address whether he will play Sunday at Miami, but spoke passionately about his feelings on being labeled injury-prone.
"Coming off one injury as it is, coming into another one, it definitely is frustrating," Maroney said. "It's 'man, I just can't rid of these things.' I missed two games in college due to an ankle sprain, but those were the only games I missed in my football career. I come up [to the NFL], and it seems like I just can't rid of these things.
"It's one of those things where you work hard to not be labeled as injury-prone and work so hard not to be injured. But in this game, football, I'm surprised people don't get injured every play. That's a surprising stat to me -- the way we play, how hard we work, how physical this game is, people should get hurt more often. It's one of those things you don't want to have."
Maroney checks in
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff
FOXBOROUGH -- Running back Laurence Maroney, who has missed the last three games with a groin injury, drew a large media crowd in the locker room today. Maroney did not address whether he will play Sunday at Miami, but spoke passionately about his feelings on being labeled injury-prone.
"Coming off one injury as it is, coming into another one, it definitely is frustrating," Maroney said. "It's 'man, I just can't rid of these things.' I missed two games in college due to an ankle sprain, but those were the only games I missed in my football career. I come up [to the NFL], and it seems like I just can't rid of these things.
"It's one of those things where you work hard to not be labeled as injury-prone and work so hard not to be injured. But in this game, football, I'm surprised people don't get injured every play. That's a surprising stat to me -- the way we play, how hard we work, how physical this game is, people should get hurt more often. It's one of those things you don't want to have."
mozzy84
Footballguy
dude was solid as a rock in college and he was getting 40+ carries some games
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FFDumb
Footballguy
Spoken like a true ######.
duaneok66
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
duaneok66
Footballguy
mozzy84
Footballguy
I did change alot to some before I looked this up, he got the ball ALOT none the less.-----------+--------------------+--------------+-------------+duaneok66 said:
| 05/09/01 | | 21 203 2 | |
| 05/09/10 | | 26 133 2 | 1 14 |
| 05/09/17 | | 20 145 2 | 3 55 1 |
| 05/09/24 | 1 | 46 217 | 5 59 |
| 05/10/01 | | 16 48 | 2 3 |
| 05/10/08 | | 36 129 1 | |
| 05/10/15 | | 43 258 1 | |
| 05/10/29 | | 25 127 1 | 3 19 |
| 05/11/05 | | 15 85 1 | 1 8 |
| 05/11/19 | | 7 10 | |
| 05/12/30 | | 26 109 | 2 12 |
+-----------+--------------------+--------------+-------------+
duaneok66
Footballguy
he had over 40 carries exactly TWICE in his college career . . .
I guess that's ALOT . . .
good work . . .
David Yudkin
Footballguy
The Pats only had a walk through practice today in shorts and t-shirts, so I can't offer up any new tidbits on what happened or didn't happen at practice.
packersfan
Footballguy
Gut call, David. You think Maroney plays?
Fantasy Fix Fred
Footballguy
I dont see Maroney coming back this week either. NE has basically shut him down until proven healthy. He is still limited in practice this week and quite frankly do the patriots really need him? NO their 6-0 cruising with whoever is in the backfield. Maroney is the best RB on their roster and I cant see NE rushing him back before he's 100%. NE will unstoppable when he comes back and I hate to say this b/c I really hate the patriots.
So is Faulk the safe play? I also can see Belicheat pulling some shady stuff starting heath evans over faulk, keeping faulk in the 3rd down role.
So is Faulk the safe play? I also can see Belicheat pulling some shady stuff starting heath evans over faulk, keeping faulk in the 3rd down role.
David - how do you get this inside info???? (just curious, NOT questioning)
D-BO
Footballguy
Thanks for keeping us up to date
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'd say 50/50 at this point. And even if he plays I doubt he'll get much work. Fantasywise I'd look elsewhere, and if I had to start a Pats RB this week I'd take Faulk.I will get a full update at the end of practice tomorrow. Very little will change from then until close to game time, so that will be are best time to figure out what is going on.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
The only time Evans really played a significant role was when there was no one else on the roster that was healthy. Evans is after Faulk on the depth chart, and Evans should not get more touches than Faulk. As I outlined in one of these threads, Evans will be the guy if they need a yard or two.Don't forget that NE has mastered the dink and dunk passing game, and they could very well use that to burn clock and get 3-6 yards per play in lieu of a running game (if they can't get anywhere on the ground).
PatrickT
Footballguy
That's what I wasn't sure of. Strange, don't remember him being hurt, but I guess Yudkin would know.duaneok66 said:good point . . . still, Evans figures to get short yardage carries over the lighter Faulk . . . of course, its a moot point if Maroney is back . . .David Yudkin said:Evans only played that much because Faulk was hurt those two games.duaneok66 said:he is right . . .http://www.pro-football-reference.com/game...anHe00.htm#2005PatrickT said:My guess would be because that's what they did in '05 when Dillon missed time. At least that's what I remember, could be wrong. I _think_ Faulk was still there and healthy and they gave most of the work to Evans. I seem to remember being kinda ticked off about that, cause I had Faulk on my roster.Keith Lewis said:Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.KellysHeroes said:
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'm in good with one of the Boston media, and that person feeds me info that they can't even report on because it's not official. So I can hear things that are newsworthy but can't be reported as fact. (Sometimes journalists actually adhere to the rules.)Sometimes I hear things from other places and I share info too, so it works both ways. I'm definitely learning that many times player info on the wire that gets reported all over the place (ESPN, KFFL, Rotoworld, USA Today, etc.) is spotty at best.This week is the perfect example, as the Pats have guys that won't play, but NE has not come out and said that so it can't be reported as such. So places basically come to their own conclusions and the fantasy world gets in a tizzy when the info is mostly speculative.
Thanks for sharing!!!
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Faulk missed 8 games with a broken bone in his foot in 2005. Evans was picked up after Miami released him (and was signed the week before NE played Miami). With Dillon, Faulk, and Patrick Pass out, NE turned to Evans as a last resort and he did well against his old team.That's what I wasn't sure of. Strange, don't remember him being hurt, but I guess Yudkin would know.duaneok66 said:good point . . . still, Evans figures to get short yardage carries over the lighter Faulk . . . of course, its a moot point if Maroney is back . . .David Yudkin said:Evans only played that much because Faulk was hurt those two games.duaneok66 said:he is right . . .http://www.pro-football-reference.com/game...anHe00.htm#2005PatrickT said:My guess would be because that's what they did in '05 when Dillon missed time. At least that's what I remember, could be wrong. I _think_ Faulk was still there and healthy and they gave most of the work to Evans. I seem to remember being kinda ticked off about that, cause I had Faulk on my roster.Keith Lewis said:Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.KellysHeroes said:
And looks like yesterday bad report was due to an editting error at the AP...
The Associated Press writes that Laurence Maroney is likely to return in Week 7 against the Dolphins.
Maroney reportedly ran well in a limited practice Wednesday. In one version of an AP article linked below, the writer says Maroney will not play this week. It appears to be an editing error, though, because other versions of the article say Maroney is likely to play. The local Boston papers also believe Maroney will return.
Here is the ap article with the mis-information...
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=291171
The Associated Press writes that Laurence Maroney is likely to return in Week 7 against the Dolphins.
Maroney reportedly ran well in a limited practice Wednesday. In one version of an AP article linked below, the writer says Maroney will not play this week. It appears to be an editing error, though, because other versions of the article say Maroney is likely to play. The local Boston papers also believe Maroney will return.
Here is the ap article with the mis-information...
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=291171
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
heres the logic, Morris is out... Maroney is coming off an injury and may not play... this game will be over by the 2nd half; then it will be "grind it out time on the ground"... who do you think will be doing that? Not Faulk and BB might even pull Maroney out if he plays during that time. Which makes Evans a nice one week wonder IMO.Keith Lewis said:Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.KellysHeroes said:
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I think you may be jumping to some conclusions here.The last 5 games the Pats have played in MIA:- Lost by 13 points- Won in OT- Lost by 1 after being up by 3 TD- Won by 7 points- Were shutout 21-0I know this year's Pats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this year's Dolphins, but NE simply gets off track in Miami.On paper, NE should blow the doors off of Miami, but they've been able to say that year in and year out.heres the logic, Morris is out... Maroney is coming off an injury and may not play... this game will be over by the 2nd half; then it will be "grind it out time on the ground"... who do you think will be doing that? Not Faulk and BB might even pull Maroney out if he plays during that time. Which makes Evans a nice one week wonder IMO.Keith Lewis said:Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.KellysHeroes said:
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
(KFFL) Karen Guregian, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said he would consider using FB Heath Evans in more of a featured role Week 7. I think an "I told you so" me be needed to you all that called me crazy on EvansI think you may be jumping to some conclusions here.The last 5 games the Pats have played in MIA:- Lost by 13 points- Won in OT- Lost by 1 after being up by 3 TD- Won by 7 points- Were shutout 21-0I know this year's Pats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this year's Dolphins, but NE simply gets off track in Miami.On paper, NE should blow the doors off of Miami, but they've been able to say that year in and year out.heres the logic, Morris is out... Maroney is coming off an injury and may not play... this game will be over by the 2nd half; then it will be "grind it out time on the ground"... who do you think will be doing that? Not Faulk and BB might even pull Maroney out if he plays during that time. Which makes Evans a nice one week wonder IMO.Keith Lewis said:Evans has 10 carries, 20 yards, 1 TD on the season. Why do you think he's the play? It just sounds strange to me, would it make sense if I said James Mungro is the "play" in Indy this week or Boomer Grigsby is the "play" in KC this week, I don't really get the logic that a fullback with 10 carries on the year is the play? Explain it to me, I'm kinda slow.KellysHeroes said:
