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Young Stud Backup LB's and DB's (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter falcoatl
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Here's a few rookie backups that I'm keeping an eye on:
SS Eric Weddle, SD
OLB LaMarr Woodley, PIT - if sacks are big in your scoring
MLB Desmond Bishop, GB
I think it's just a matter of time for Weddle behind Clinton Hart and Woodley behind Clark Haggans. Maybe not this year but next, for sure. Nick Barnett is playing great right now, so I don't know if Bishop will ever get a shot there.
SS Eric Weddle, SD
OLB LaMarr Woodley, PIT - if sacks are big in your scoring
MLB Desmond Bishop, GB
I think it's just a matter of time for Weddle behind Clinton Hart and Woodley behind Clark Haggans. Maybe not this year but next, for sure. Nick Barnett is playing great right now, so I don't know if Bishop will ever get a shot there.
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Super King
Footballguy
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Blades was a 6th round pick.But the team does love him, he's got a great teacher to learn from (Fletcher) and he's done OK in spot duty this season. He definitely belongs in this discussion.
I have zero doubt that Richard Marshall is going to be a perennial stud once he's a starter.
NorrisB
Footballguy
yeah but how often are corners important for ff?
5 out of the top 10 DBs in FBG scoring this year are CBs (11 out of the top 20), so i'd say pretty often.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Steven Nicholas is the top of my list here.
Justin Durant just went on IR, that could be a good one to stash.
Michael Okwo and Waters (SD) are also ones to watch.
Another Raven - Prescott Burgess - has shown some flashes. If they don't sign Ray Ray, they could be changing LBs next year.
Justin Durant just went on IR, that could be a good one to stash.
Michael Okwo and Waters (SD) are also ones to watch.
Another Raven - Prescott Burgess - has shown some flashes. If they don't sign Ray Ray, they could be changing LBs next year.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
good topic 
TheGreatest
Footballguy
I would stay away from Durant for now....http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stor...214994896.shtml
bearsharks
Footballguy
Clint Session?
Zoomanji
Footballguy
I though Burgess (along with A. Barnes) was more of an OLB in the Aduliaus Thomas/J. Johnson role?Think he would be the one to move inside?
redman
Footballguy
Blades was a 6th round pick.But the team does love him, he's got a great teacher to learn from (Fletcher) and he's done OK in spot duty this season. He definitely belongs in this discussion.
I have Blades waiting on both of my dynasty rosters.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
That's tough to say. Burgess seems to be playing more and I think injuries and the off-season may dictate what they do. I doubt they move Johnson inside, so if Ray Ray were to go down they could plug him in there.I would think Barnes is more the outside guy.Just my own speculation and a look at the depth charts as well.
Pick
Footballguy
3 tackles, 2 PDs, and a nice pick versus the Chargers. Seems to be finding himself on the field more lately (since they bye week).
yinzer
Footballguy
Im pretty sure Weddle was starting sunday vs the Colts, so that seems to being coming to fruitionDef agree on Woodley - I think he should be playing more than Haggans right now.....also keep an eye on the Stillers #1, Lawrence Timmons. With Harrison playing as good as he is on the weak side, and Woodley seemingly taking Haggans spot, it wouldn't surprise me to see Timmons moved to ILB. I doubt Farrior plays more than 2 more years (and its not a given he continues to produce then) and if Timmons shows enough flashes I wouldn't rule him out starting over Foote. Moving to OLB would be a big FF boost for him
Clinton Hart and Marlon Mc Cree started at safety sunday night
yinzer
Footballguy
hmm..for some reason when the players were doing their name intros, im seem to remember weddle doing his
He was not listed in the gamebook as starting he played a lot against the three reciever sets.hmm..for some reason when the players were doing their name intros, im seem to remember weddle doing his
Tenacious D
Footballguy
I'm also really high on Prescott Burgess. He never lived up to expectations in college, but was especially disappointing due to battling injuries his last year. Then he was a total bust in workouts. I was suprised he got drafted at all. He made noise the first day of camp when he reportedly lit up McGahee and then had a very good preseason that led to more snaps than I expected until he got hurt. I also remember reading about a UDFA converted DE Edgar Jones in the preseason. He's been waived and resigned and only active for one game, so obviously he's a bit farther away from being anything, much less a future prospect. So with Antwan Barnes waiting for a chance too, it looks like the Ravens are stacked at LB for another generation.
HB Blades has also been impressive in preseason and his limited opportunities. I was surprised he went as low as he did, but everyone places such a premium on speed now at LB.
Desmond Bishop is another guy who seems promising, although I wonder about him. MLB and WLB are locked up, barring injury, for the near future and I would have thought he might have already seen some snaps at SLB. I just don't get what the Packers still see in Poppinga that they don't give someone else a chance with at least a series here and there...unless they don't think Bishop can play there. Atari Bigby can lay a big hit, but he has been a liability, especially with stupid penalties, quite a bit. The way Rouse has played filling in for Collins, maybe Rouse moves to SS next year. Either way, Rouse looks like he has a big future, but they seem committed to Collins at FS. Aging and fragile at the corners in GB should give Jarrett Bush a chance soon.
After a few big plays here and there, I saw Nedu Ndukwe play against the Ravens a few weeks ago and he looks good. Dexter Jackson has 2 years left on his contract but should be forced in to a reserve role or be cut sooner than later to make room. Leon Hall has pushed his way in to a starting role and looks really good.
Not exactly young, but not old, Tank Williams and Mike Doss in Minnesota make Sharper a potential cost-cut move, opening up the job for one of them, probably Tank, next year. I believe Doss just had a one-year contract, so he could get a shot somewhere else. Marcus McCauley has shown flashes in Minnesota at the level of the top talent he looked like his junior year, but also some brutal mistakes, but that's a rookie. His upside seems high.
Quintin Mikell has now successfully filled both safety spots in PHI and with Dawkins getting up there and the serious injury this year and Considine looking fragile, he could remain the starter at SS next year or take over FS in the near future.
Trumaine McBride has been impressive filling in for Nathan Vasher in Chicago. Vasher and Tillman are both locked up, so opportunity will be a problem w/o injury. Similarly, the Bears could have two new starting safeties next year. Mike Brown may be done and Danieal Manning should probably be a CB instead of FS, although the emergence of McBride makes less sense for him to convert, and Archuleta has already been bumped once from the lineup. Brandon McGowan could hit, but was a liability in coverage. I really would have liked to see what Kevin Payne could do, but McGowan passed him and then Payne went on the IR. They also have Josh Gattis sitting there. I think they also address the position in the draft, though.
Antrell Rolle proved he's not a bust yet and Richard Marshall is just having a sophomore slump. Both should be starters again sooner than later. I was high on Fred Bennett out of SoCar and he just moved in to the starting lineup in Houston. Obviously Antonio Cromartie, who I guess doesn't count as he has already replaced Florence, who is a UFA.
Boss Bailey and Teddy Lehman are UFA's next year. I don't see Det motivated to bring back Bailey, but I think he could get a fresh start somewhere else and amount to something. I think Lehman takes over the middle next year and Det, before he gets hurt again.
Kawika Mitchell has exceeded expectations in NY, but is a UFA and I think Gerris Wilkinson gets his shot next year and is good.
The topic was LB and DB, but might as well hit some DL. Tim Crowder had a huge preseason in DEN until he was hurt right before the season started. It kept him out and put him behind, but now that the Rice experiment failed and Crowder is healthy, he's looked good. Rucker s/b done in CAR, so Charles Johnson and/or Stanley McClover get a chance. For a deep sleeper, with an injury-prone Abraham and disappointing Anderson in ATL, Kevin Huntley could get the chance I was shocked he didn't get in OAK. Why not move Anderson to DT with all the injuries and give him one now?
HB Blades has also been impressive in preseason and his limited opportunities. I was surprised he went as low as he did, but everyone places such a premium on speed now at LB.
Desmond Bishop is another guy who seems promising, although I wonder about him. MLB and WLB are locked up, barring injury, for the near future and I would have thought he might have already seen some snaps at SLB. I just don't get what the Packers still see in Poppinga that they don't give someone else a chance with at least a series here and there...unless they don't think Bishop can play there. Atari Bigby can lay a big hit, but he has been a liability, especially with stupid penalties, quite a bit. The way Rouse has played filling in for Collins, maybe Rouse moves to SS next year. Either way, Rouse looks like he has a big future, but they seem committed to Collins at FS. Aging and fragile at the corners in GB should give Jarrett Bush a chance soon.
After a few big plays here and there, I saw Nedu Ndukwe play against the Ravens a few weeks ago and he looks good. Dexter Jackson has 2 years left on his contract but should be forced in to a reserve role or be cut sooner than later to make room. Leon Hall has pushed his way in to a starting role and looks really good.
Not exactly young, but not old, Tank Williams and Mike Doss in Minnesota make Sharper a potential cost-cut move, opening up the job for one of them, probably Tank, next year. I believe Doss just had a one-year contract, so he could get a shot somewhere else. Marcus McCauley has shown flashes in Minnesota at the level of the top talent he looked like his junior year, but also some brutal mistakes, but that's a rookie. His upside seems high.
Quintin Mikell has now successfully filled both safety spots in PHI and with Dawkins getting up there and the serious injury this year and Considine looking fragile, he could remain the starter at SS next year or take over FS in the near future.
Trumaine McBride has been impressive filling in for Nathan Vasher in Chicago. Vasher and Tillman are both locked up, so opportunity will be a problem w/o injury. Similarly, the Bears could have two new starting safeties next year. Mike Brown may be done and Danieal Manning should probably be a CB instead of FS, although the emergence of McBride makes less sense for him to convert, and Archuleta has already been bumped once from the lineup. Brandon McGowan could hit, but was a liability in coverage. I really would have liked to see what Kevin Payne could do, but McGowan passed him and then Payne went on the IR. They also have Josh Gattis sitting there. I think they also address the position in the draft, though.
Antrell Rolle proved he's not a bust yet and Richard Marshall is just having a sophomore slump. Both should be starters again sooner than later. I was high on Fred Bennett out of SoCar and he just moved in to the starting lineup in Houston. Obviously Antonio Cromartie, who I guess doesn't count as he has already replaced Florence, who is a UFA.
Boss Bailey and Teddy Lehman are UFA's next year. I don't see Det motivated to bring back Bailey, but I think he could get a fresh start somewhere else and amount to something. I think Lehman takes over the middle next year and Det, before he gets hurt again.
Kawika Mitchell has exceeded expectations in NY, but is a UFA and I think Gerris Wilkinson gets his shot next year and is good.
The topic was LB and DB, but might as well hit some DL. Tim Crowder had a huge preseason in DEN until he was hurt right before the season started. It kept him out and put him behind, but now that the Rice experiment failed and Crowder is healthy, he's looked good. Rucker s/b done in CAR, so Charles Johnson and/or Stanley McClover get a chance. For a deep sleeper, with an injury-prone Abraham and disappointing Anderson in ATL, Kevin Huntley could get the chance I was shocked he didn't get in OAK. Why not move Anderson to DT with all the injuries and give him one now?
falcoatl
Footballguy
Not really a back up anymore though...
Dirty Hairy
Footballguy
The backup SS in ATL and CIN are on my watch list - Stone & White.
kellumsboys
Footballguy
both are listed as backup FS on FBG depth charts ???
messinwithu
Footballguy
I really liked the dynasty watch with the rookies this week.
I saw Brian Smith was listed there and had been looking at him more when he was moved to IR. He was listed as a LB but also as a DE so where will he play in the NFL (FBG has him at 6-4 225lbs)? Did he drop in the draft because of the injury - picked in the 4th with this injury is interesting. Where was he projected to be drafted before the injury? Was he expected to be back sooner or was his injury expected to take this long to heal.
Does anyone have an opinion on Brandon McDonald since his good game last week? Does he have a chance to be a good player or was that a career game?
TIA
I saw Brian Smith was listed there and had been looking at him more when he was moved to IR. He was listed as a LB but also as a DE so where will he play in the NFL (FBG has him at 6-4 225lbs)? Did he drop in the draft because of the injury - picked in the 4th with this injury is interesting. Where was he projected to be drafted before the injury? Was he expected to be back sooner or was his injury expected to take this long to heal.
Does anyone have an opinion on Brandon McDonald since his good game last week? Does he have a chance to be a good player or was that a career game?
TIA
The problem w/ CB's is that once they hit stud status, nobody throws in their direction, rendering them useless for FF purposes. Do you anticipate this happening to Marshall?
No - he gets a ton of tackles in run support, and like Champ Bailey, he'll punish QBs the few times they do throw his way. He also looks to score any time he gets the ball in his hands. I expect him to be a perennial top 5-10 DB for a long time.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Matt Giordano impressed me in pre-season. He could be a free agent in 2008?
BearsFan
Footballguy
Why is he not starting in CAR?
Rozelle
Moderator
I agree with Nicholas, actually I thought he may put up some numbers this year. He will most likely play will next year and may even be looked at in the middle, so they can slide Brooking back to will.
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redman
Footballguy
Grab Blades now, in both dynasty and redraft. McIntosh's injury is a 9-12 month injury, which is going to hurt him next season too. Blades is the guy who figures to play in his place both this year and next.I have Blades waiting on both of my dynasty rosters.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I'd get Siler before I grab Waters. Siler's at least seeing the field and playing some ST time.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Yes, if you can, get him now. Blades will be at the WILL this week on SNF trying to reel in ADP and Chester Taylor, so he could get some TV time and the rest of your league will see him then. Now's the time to grab him if you can.Grab Blades now, in both dynasty and redraft. McIntosh's injury is a 9-12 month injury, which is going to hurt him next season too. Blades is the guy who figures to play in his place both this year and next.Blades was a 6th round pick.But the team does love him, he's got a great teacher to learn from (Fletcher) and he's done OK in spot duty this season. He definitely belongs in this discussion.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Don't forget, Waters had a torn ACL last year, and is not fully recovered with regards to his speed and explosion. He was considered a possible first round pick before that injury. That's the biggest reason for his lack of playing time. He is near the top of my sleeper list for next year. My gut feeling is that he will be better than all of the current ILBs on the Chargers. Whether I am right or not remains to be seen, but make note of this injury, and others who come off torn ACLs, such as Chad Greenway. It is usually a 2 year injury with regards to getting the speed and explosiveness back. These kind of players are almost always great buy lows.
Tecmo
Footballguy
Antwaan Barnes brings some serious heat if you're looking for sacks, he'll at least come in on passing downs. His playing time has been hindered by injuries since training camp. Haven't seen him work in traffic for tackles though, he prob needs to work on that part of his game to be a starter outside.
Philly's Stewart Bradley might move to the middle from the strong-side in 08. He had a good game starting in the middle late last season (sack, int). Some think Omar Gaither would be better at the WILL
Keyaron Fox is a guy I keep my eye on if Derrick Johnson is injured. His tackle #s jump out when he starts. I doubt Donnie Edwards retires though and Donnie never misses a game.
Cincy's Ndukwe has put up some nice stats for a rookie late in the season, maybe enough to let Madieu Williams walk in free agency? Either way, he looks to have earned some playing time and might have a bright future.
Philly's Stewart Bradley might move to the middle from the strong-side in 08. He had a good game starting in the middle late last season (sack, int). Some think Omar Gaither would be better at the WILL
Keyaron Fox is a guy I keep my eye on if Derrick Johnson is injured. His tackle #s jump out when he starts. I doubt Donnie Edwards retires though and Donnie never misses a game.
Cincy's Ndukwe has put up some nice stats for a rookie late in the season, maybe enough to let Madieu Williams walk in free agency? Either way, he looks to have earned some playing time and might have a bright future.
Bumping this topic from the end of the season. I'm wondering how some of these guys may look now, post-draft and offseason moves. For example, did the drafting of Tavares Gooden kill the value of Prescott Burgess? Also, any thoughts on Desmond Bishop or Pago Togafau? GB did not draft a LB, and the Eagles didn't take on until the 6th. Does the lack of action by those teams suggest bright futures for Bishop and/or Togafau?
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Burgess never had much value anyway, but I'd think the drafting of Gooden is probably a pretty big nail in his IDP coffin. Bishop is stuck behind Barnett, who isn't likely to be going anywhere after signing a big extension early in 2007. Chaos Commish still has nice things to say about him, so he's worth watching in case of injury in GB. Togafau is probably still interesting, but, while I may be underrating Stewart Bradley, he hasn't been able to force himself into the lineup against so-so competition.
