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Keep Hope Alive Falcons Fans! (1 Viewer)

QuizGuy66

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Okay this is a long one and a convoluted one. Please feel free to post any disambiguity questions or point out impossibilities. But it looks pretty clear to me that the Falcons still have a shot (with just a little help).

Current Standings for 2nd wild-card (Note - NOT by tie-breaker, just record)

Minnesota 7-6

Detroit, Arizona, and Washington 6-7

New Orleans 5-7

Chicago, Carolina, and Philadelphia 5-8

ATLANTA 3-9

Here's what they need:

1) Atlanta wins vs New Orleans Week 14

2) Atlanta wins at Tampa Bay Week 15

3) Atlanta wins at Arizona Week 16

4) Atlanta wins vs Seattle Week 17

5) Minnesota loses vs Chicago Week 15

6) Minnesota loses vs Washington Week 16

7) Minnesota loses at Denver Week 17

8) Washington loses at Giants Week 15

9) Washington loses vs Dallas Week 17

now the trickier part - all of these statements must be true and it is definitely possible that that can happen, though certain of these results will turn other results into must be trues:

10) Detroit must lose at least 2 of their last 3 games (week 15 at SD, week 16 vs KC, week 17 at GB)

11) Arizona must lose at least 1 of their other 2 games (week 15 at NO, week 17 vs STL)

12) New Orleans must lose at least 1 of their other 3 games (week 15 vs ARIZ, week 16 vs PHIL, week 17 at CHIC)

13) Chicago must lose at least 1 of their other 2 games (week 16 vs GB, week 17 vs NO)

14) Carolina must lose at least 1 of these 2 games (week 15 vs SEA, week 17 at TB)

15) Philadelphia must lose at least 1 of their last 3 games (week 15 at DAL, week 16 at NO, week 17 vs BUF)

Some of the hows and whys on the situation:

If the Falcons win out, they will have a 3-3 division record and a 6-6 conference record and will have split with all 3 teams in their division.

The Saints cannot beat them in a tie-breaker b/c of a 2-4 division record.

The Panthers will have one of the following occur if they are tied with Atlanta at 7-9:

Win vs Seattle and Dallas, which means they lose the tiebreaker with a 2-4 division record.

Win vs Tampa Bay and Dallas, which means they lose the common games tiebreaker.

Win vs Seattle and Tampa Bay, which means they would be the same in common games. Atlanta loses this tiebreaker based on conference record (Carolina would be 7-5), hence they need 14) to be true

So, with Atlanta successfully out of the division the only Head-To-Head loss that they would have to worry about would be to Minnesota. HOWEVER. For they to tie Minnesota at 7-9, either Washington or Philadelphia MUST be involved in the tiebreaker which gets rid of the Head-to-head tiebreaker altogether. The next tiebreaker is then conference record. None of Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia or Arizona will have a better conference record than 5-7 if they get to 7-9, so Atlanta wins all of these tiebreaker scenarios on that basis.

So there you go Falcon Fans!!!! It's right there for the taking :boxing:

-QG

 
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Great post QG - I too noticed that they were still alive with 3 wins and had to do a double take. :lmao: I wondered what the scenario would be for them to make the playoffs and you so descriptively explained it for me. Thanks. :thumbup:

 
"all of these statements must be true and it is definitely possible that that can happen, though certain of these results will turn other results into must be trues:"

Yea, all 15 of your scenarios can easily come true. What a clown

 
"all of these statements must be true and it is definitely possible that that can happen, though certain of these results will turn other results into must be trues:"

Yea, all 15 of your scenarios can easily come true. What a clown
I see it this way:Probably will happen

8) Washington loses at Giants Week 15

9) Washington loses vs Dallas Week 17

10) Detroit must lose at least 2 of their last 3 games (week 15 at SD, week 16 vs KC, week 17 at GB)

11) Arizona must lose at least 1 of their other 2 games (week 15 at NO, week 17 vs STL)

13) Chicago must lose at least 1 of their other 2 games (week 16 vs GB, week 17 vs NO)

15) Philadelphia must lose at least 1 of their last 3 games (week 15 at DAL, week 16 at NO, week 17 vs BUF)

Might happen

1) Atlanta wins vs New Orleans Week 14

2) Atlanta wins at Tampa Bay Week 15

3) Atlanta wins at Arizona Week 16

4) Atlanta wins vs Seattle Week 17

7) Minnesota loses at Denver Week 17

12) New Orleans must lose at least 1 of their other 3 games (week 15 vs ARIZ, week 16 vs PHIL, week 17 at CHIC)

Probably won't happen

5) Minnesota loses vs Chicago Week 15

6) Minnesota loses vs Washington Week 16

I think Minnesota is playing too good lately and won't lose their last three.

 
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Jeff Haseley said:
Great post QG - I too noticed that they were still alive with 3 wins and had to do a double take. :nerd: I wondered what the scenario would be for them to make the playoffs and you so descriptively explained it for me. Thanks. :nerd:
and eloquently
 
And after making the playoffs, they beat Seattle, Dallas, GB & NE and Atlanta is your 2007 NFL Champion!!!! Although personally I like Skins win out, beat Seattle, GB, Dallas, and get revenge vs. NE.

 
"all of these statements must be true and it is definitely possible that that can happen, though certain of these results will turn other results into must be trues:"Yea, all 15 of your scenarios can easily come true. What a clown
somebody woke up on the stupid bed today.
 
Jeff Haseley said:
Great post QG - I too noticed that they were still alive with 3 wins and had to do a double take. :shock: I wondered what the scenario would be for them to make the playoffs and you so descriptively explained it for me. Thanks. :lmao:
and eloquently
ty :lmao: I'm not pickin' on the Falcons themselves, per se, I originally wanted to this for my Bengals but they lost out at the conference record part of the equation :bag: If a couple other wacky ones come up in the coming weeks I'll certainly post those. Until then it's all about the Falcons baby!!!

-QG

 
:sadbanana: and they were so close :lmao:

Stay tuned next week for more Mathematical Longshot Theater :) Hopefully we can get some strength of victory stuff involved which will REALLY make for some convoluted scenarios! Did you know that theoretically an NFC playoff spot could be decided but the Jets-Chiefs game the last week of the season? (Stay with me and suspend disbelief that NBC will actually keep that as the 8 PM game). Bizarre but true. Still holding out hope that that bit of craziness will happen one of these years.

-QG

 
Okay this is a long one and a convoluted one. Please feel free to post any disambiguity questions or point out impossibilities. But it looks pretty clear to me that the Falcons still have a shot (with just a little help).

Current Standings for 2nd wild-card (Note - NOT by tie-breaker, just record)

Minnesota 7-6

Detroit, Arizona, and Washington 6-7

New Orleans 5-7

Chicago, Carolina, and Philadelphia 5-8

ATLANTA 3-9

Here's what they need:

1) Atlanta wins vs New Orleans Week 14

2) Atlanta wins at Tampa Bay Week 15

3) Atlanta wins at Arizona Week 16

4) Atlanta wins vs Seattle Week 17

5) Minnesota loses vs Chicago Week 15

6) Minnesota loses vs Washington Week 16

7) Minnesota loses at Denver Week 17

8) Washington loses at Giants Week 15

9) Washington loses vs Dallas Week 17

now the trickier part - all of these statements must be true and it is definitely possible that that can happen, though certain of these results will turn other results into must be trues:

10) Detroit must lose at least 2 of their last 3 games (week 15 at SD, week 16 vs KC, week 17 at GB)

11) Arizona must lose at least 1 of their other 2 games (week 15 at NO, week 17 vs STL)

12) New Orleans must lose at least 1 of their other 3 games (week 15 vs ARIZ, week 16 vs PHIL, week 17 at CHIC)

13) Chicago must lose at least 1 of their other 2 games (week 16 vs GB, week 17 vs NO)

14) Carolina must lose at least 1 of these 2 games (week 15 vs SEA, week 17 at TB)

15) Philadelphia must lose at least 1 of their last 3 games (week 15 at DAL, week 16 at NO, week 17 vs BUF)

Some of the hows and whys on the situation:

If the Falcons win out, they will have a 3-3 division record and a 6-6 conference record and will have split with all 3 teams in their division.

The Saints cannot beat them in a tie-breaker b/c of a 2-4 division record.

The Panthers will have one of the following occur if they are tied with Atlanta at 7-9:

Win vs Seattle and Dallas, which means they lose the tiebreaker with a 2-4 division record.

Win vs Tampa Bay and Dallas, which means they lose the common games tiebreaker.

Win vs Seattle and Tampa Bay, which means they would be the same in common games. Atlanta loses this tiebreaker based on conference record (Carolina would be 7-5), hence they need 14) to be true

So, with Atlanta successfully out of the division the only Head-To-Head loss that they would have to worry about would be to Minnesota. HOWEVER. For they to tie Minnesota at 7-9, either Washington or Philadelphia MUST be involved in the tiebreaker which gets rid of the Head-to-head tiebreaker altogether. The next tiebreaker is then conference record. None of Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia or Arizona will have a better conference record than 5-7 if they get to 7-9, so Atlanta wins all of these tiebreaker scenarios on that basis.

So there you go Falcon Fans!!!! It's right there for the taking :rolleyes:

-QG
That didn't take long.
 
Its obvious they are playing for the second overall pick. That would explain having Warrick DONE on the field as much as they do.

 
Great post QG - I too noticed that they were still alive with 3 wins and had to do a double take. :lmao: I wondered what the scenario would be for them to make the playoffs and you so descriptively explained it for me. Thanks. :lmao:
and eloquently
ty :lmao: I'm not pickin' on the Falcons themselves, per se, I originally wanted to this for my Bengals but they lost out at the conference record part of the equation :lmao: If a couple other wacky ones come up in the coming weeks I'll certainly post those. Until then it's all about the Falcons baby!!!

-QG
Just out of curiousity, who do you have eliminating the Bengals? I did something similar to see if they were still mathematically alive and I think they would win a 3 way with Tennessee and Cleveland at 8-8. Obviously, I don't think thats how it will end up, but its more likely than your Falcons scenerio.
 
Its obvious they are playing for the second overall pick. That would explain having Warrick DONE on the field as much as they do.
I still can't bring my self to believe that an NFL franchise would do that, but it's hard to believe otherwise now. It's disgusting really. But nothing else fits, you have to try pretty hard to be as stupid as Petrino.
 
Actually, I started wondering last night if, rather than going for a draft pick, he's trying to get fired because he promised he wouldn't quit.

 
cheese said:
Great post QG - I too noticed that they were still alive with 3 wins and had to do a double take. :shock: I wondered what the scenario would be for them to make the playoffs and you so descriptively explained it for me. Thanks. :thumbup:
and eloquently
ty :bowtie: I'm not pickin' on the Falcons themselves, per se, I originally wanted to this for my Bengals but they lost out at the conference record part of the equation :shrug: If a couple other wacky ones come up in the coming weeks I'll certainly post those. Until then it's all about the Falcons baby!!!

-QG
Just out of curiousity, who do you have eliminating the Bengals? I did something similar to see if they were still mathematically alive and I think they would win a 3 way with Tennessee and Cleveland at 8-8. Obviously, I don't think thats how it will end up, but its more likely than your Falcons scenerio.
For Cleveland to get to 8-8, Buffalo would have to win this week (which would be their 8th win).Buffalo's conference record would be better than that of the Bengals so that's where we'd drop out :thumbup:

-QG

 

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