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Browns will entertain offers for Anderson (1 Viewer)

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Coach Romeo Crennel revealed that the Browns will listen to offers for impending restricted free agent Derek Anderson this offseason.

The Browns will at least place the first- and third-round tender on Anderson, and may go as far as franchise tagging him. "Sometimes people can make you an offer and you can say, 'No, I think I'm going to stick with what I've got,'" said Crennel. "Sometimes they make you an offer and you say, 'Oooh!'" The most likely scenario remains Cleveland keeping Anderson for at least one more year. Brady Quinn's $9 million deal is very workable for a backup. Jan. 1 - 12:02 pm et

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer - Rotoworld

 
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:

Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008.

"We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."

 
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:

Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008.

"We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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:goodposting: Interesting take on an innocuous quote.

The worst thing he says about Anderson, as a person or a player, is that he's a great guy.

 
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:

Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008.

"We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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I think Winslow is being realistic. He's right- it's very rare that a 1st round QB doesn't get a chance to start.I hope the Browns get some serious draft picks for Anderson. If we could get back into the top of the first round and get a second or maybe a third, I'd make the trade in a heartbeat. DA's last 8 games were mediocre at best. He's a very inaccurate QB with questionable decision making, a cannon arm, and a quick release. Winslow + Edwards could make any QB look great (OK, well, maybe not Charlie Frye).

 
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008."We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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Do you know what it means to "throw someone under the bus"?
 
BassNBrew said:
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008."We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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Do you know what it means to "throw someone under the bus"?
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When you help lead the turnaround of your team from under 500 to 10-6, where QB play has been horrible the past few years....and two days after the season is over your TE says you're a great guy but probably not the starter?I'm fully aware the comment wasn't exactly blasting DA, but how about a "DA did great and deserves to start" comment.
 
BassNBrew said:
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008."We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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Do you know what it means to "throw someone under the bus"?
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Winslow knows "the business" That is how it works. High draft pick..big $$$$
 
nxmehta said:
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:

Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008.

"We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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I think Winslow is being realistic. He's right- it's very rare that a 1st round QB doesn't get a chance to start.I hope the Browns get some serious draft picks for Anderson. If we could get back into the top of the first round and get a second or maybe a third, I'd make the trade in a heartbeat. DA's last 8 games were mediocre at best. He's a very inaccurate QB with questionable decision making, a cannon arm, and a quick release. Winslow + Edwards could make any QB look great (OK, well, maybe not Charlie Frye).
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There is no way the Browns are getting back into the TOP of the draft using Anderson. If they can get ANY first round pick for Anderson, they should take it. Anderson is not very good.
 
nxmehta said:
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:

Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008.

"We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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I think Winslow is being realistic. He's right- it's very rare that a 1st round QB doesn't get a chance to start.I hope the Browns get some serious draft picks for Anderson. If we could get back into the top of the first round and get a second or maybe a third, I'd make the trade in a heartbeat. DA's last 8 games were mediocre at best. He's a very inaccurate QB with questionable decision making, a cannon arm, and a quick release. Winslow + Edwards could make any QB look great (OK, well, maybe not Charlie Frye).
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By my count, there's one in the last 5 years and that's only because he's backing up a future HOFer.Even an All-pro like Brees was dumped, there's no doubt Quinn will get his chance in Cleveland, probably in 08.

 
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If the Browns can get a # 2 and a # 5 they should do it.

THe draft is very deep in qb's this year, and there should be some good prospects available in the 3rd and 4th round. The Browns can draft a backup there.

Like Winslow said, it is a business, and they are not paying Quinn all that $$$ to sit on the bench. Drafting another wb, and signing a veteran to backup Quinn would be a smart move.

 
Balco said:
If the Browns can get a # 2 and a # 5 they should do it.THe draft is very deep in qb's this year, and there should be some good prospects available in the 3rd and 4th round. The Browns can draft a backup there. Like Winslow said, it is a business, and they are not paying Quinn all that $$$ to sit on the bench. Drafting another wb, and signing a veteran to backup Quinn would be a smart move.
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The Browns aren't paying Quinn a lot of money. He signed a contract full of incentive bonuses. He's clearly not achieving those will sitting on the bench. If I were the Browns, I would look for a first round pick for Anderson, otherwise give Brady another year to learn behind him.
 
encaitar said:
Balco said:
If the Browns can get a # 2 and a # 5 they should do it.THe draft is very deep in qb's this year, and there should be some good prospects available in the 3rd and 4th round. The Browns can draft a backup there. Like Winslow said, it is a business, and they are not paying Quinn all that $$$ to sit on the bench. Drafting another wb, and signing a veteran to backup Quinn would be a smart move.
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The Browns aren't paying Quinn a lot of money. He signed a contract full of incentive bonuses. He's clearly not achieving those will sitting on the bench. If I were the Browns, I would look for a first round pick for Anderson, otherwise give Brady another year to learn behind him.
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I just don't see them getting a # 1. This draft is very deep and there should be some veteran qb's available (i.e. Donavan McNabb). Anderson had a great year, but his 19 interceptions are a little worrisome. I think his value is at it's highest right now, and the Browns should maximize that value.
 
The likeliest scenario to me seems to be either the Falcons or the Dolphins trading one or both of their 2nd rounders.

If I were the Browns, the 2.01 or 2.05-ish would be enough for me to part with Anderson.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
The likeliest scenario to me seems to be either the Falcons or the Dolphins trading one or both of their 2nd rounders.If I were the Browns, the 2.01 or 2.05-ish would be enough for me to part with Anderson.
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If it's the 2.01, doesn't that kind of make it a 1st rounder since the Pats lost theirs? If I were the Browns, I would jump at that offer.
 
Balco said:
Andy Dufresne said:
The likeliest scenario to me seems to be either the Falcons or the Dolphins trading one or both of their 2nd rounders.If I were the Browns, the 2.01 or 2.05-ish would be enough for me to part with Anderson.
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If it's the 2.01, doesn't that kind of make it a 1st rounder since the Pats lost theirs? If I were the Browns, I would jump at that offer.
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Technically, it would be 2.01, but the player selected would be the 32nd of the draft. I wonder how his agent will play that one! :moneybag:If I'm Tuna, I take Dorsey with that overall 1st, get Anderson with the 2.01 (if the Browns) agree. That would be a decent start to the rebuilding process. Even if Anderson regresses to average this year, he's still a good enough starting point for a franchise that is way more than a QB away. Plus they still have an additional 2nd rounder (probably go d-back).
 
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Challenge Everything said:
FUBAR said:
PantherPower said:
the Vikings SHOULD be the first team that comes calling IMO...followed by Detroit.
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Minnesota will not be trading for a QB. They might sign a FA. It is odd that all 4 teams in the NFC North could need a QB.
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Favre/Rodgers down?
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Favre isn't long for this league, he COULD retireAre you sold on Rodgers? He might be good, or the Packers COULD need a new QB soon.

I'm not saying the Packers should trade for DA, I am saying I find it odd that there are questions at QB for every team in the division. Different questions, but questions. No other division has this situation, nor does an entire division usually not have one long term safe starter.

 
how difficult is it to find or develop a good to very good starting QB in the NFL? a lot of teams wish they had D Anderson....if i were the Browns I wouldnt part with him for less than a rd 1 pick plus try to get other considerations....

look at teams in the Playoffs (e.g. San Diego) or on verge of Playoffs (e.g. Minnesota) that could be better with D Anderson at the helm rather than what they have now.....

If it took a late round 1 pick to get B Quinn last year, I would hold out for earlier picks if I was trading D Anderson. Otherwise you are deluding yourself.....but that's just my 0.02 worth....

tex

 
Andy Dufresne said:
The likeliest scenario to me seems to be either the Falcons or the Dolphins trading one or both of their 2nd rounders.If I were the Browns, the 2.01 or 2.05-ish would be enough for me to part with Anderson.
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The Dolphins have spent enough picks on QBs.
 
tec79 said:
how difficult is it to find or develop a good to very good starting QB in the NFL? a lot of teams wish they had D Anderson....if i were the Browns I wouldnt part with him for less than a rd 1 pick plus try to get other considerations....look at teams in the Playoffs (e.g. San Diego) or on verge of Playoffs (e.g. Minnesota) that could be better with D Anderson at the helm rather than what they have now.....If it took a late round 1 pick to get B Quinn last year, I would hold out for earlier picks if I was trading D Anderson. Otherwise you are deluding yourself.....but that's just my 0.02 worth....tex
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But if you hold out for a 1st this year and don't get it, then you end up with nothing next year. Look at what happened to the Chargers - they got ZERO for Drew Brees. If the plan is to go with Quinn eventually, take what you can for Anderson, even if it's not a 1st.
 
January 1st, 2008 – 10:31 AM by Judd Zulgad Minneapolis Star Tribune

Are the Browns going to be shopping restricted free-agent Derek Anderson this offseason. It looks that way. The quarterback who passed for 3,787 yards this season could be on the move as the Browns prepare to put Brady Quinn into the starting role.

Anderson has been mentioned numerous times (outside Winter Park) as a guy the Vikings might be interested in trying to get. Coach Brad Childress has not tipped his hand either way when it comes to his long-term plan at quarterback and whether Tarvaris Jackson is going to be the starter in 2008. (Gut feeling: With the amount of time invested in Jackson, he’s going to remain the guy.)

Childress is scheduled to speak to the media on Thursday at his season-ending press conference.

Us Viking Fans would love Anderson :excited: , but I don't think it will happen :shock:

 
Balco said:
This draft is very deep and there should be some veteran qb's available (i.e. Donavan McNabb). Anderson had a great year, but his 19 interceptions are a little worrisome. I think his value is at it's highest right now, and the Browns should maximize that value.
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McNabb is not going anywhere. Rex Grossman might be, though. If Anderson is made available, he will be the best thing out there.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
tec79 said:
how difficult is it to find or develop a good to very good starting QB in the NFL? a lot of teams wish they had D Anderson....if i were the Browns I wouldnt part with him for less than a rd 1 pick plus try to get other considerations....look at teams in the Playoffs (e.g. San Diego) or on verge of Playoffs (e.g. Minnesota) that could be better with D Anderson at the helm rather than what they have now.....If it took a late round 1 pick to get B Quinn last year, I would hold out for earlier picks if I was trading D Anderson. Otherwise you are deluding yourself.....but that's just my 0.02 worth....tex
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But if you hold out for a 1st this year and don't get it, then you end up with nothing next year. Look at what happened to the Chargers - they got ZERO for Drew Brees. If the plan is to go with Quinn eventually, take what you can for Anderson, even if it's not a 1st.
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They can't franchise him next year if they wanted to?
 
RUSF18 said:
Andy Dufresne said:
tec79 said:
how difficult is it to find or develop a good to very good starting QB in the NFL? a lot of teams wish they had D Anderson....if i were the Browns I wouldnt part with him for less than a rd 1 pick plus try to get other considerations....look at teams in the Playoffs (e.g. San Diego) or on verge of Playoffs (e.g. Minnesota) that could be better with D Anderson at the helm rather than what they have now.....If it took a late round 1 pick to get B Quinn last year, I would hold out for earlier picks if I was trading D Anderson. Otherwise you are deluding yourself.....but that's just my 0.02 worth....tex
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But if you hold out for a 1st this year and don't get it, then you end up with nothing next year. Look at what happened to the Chargers - they got ZERO for Drew Brees. If the plan is to go with Quinn eventually, take what you can for Anderson, even if it's not a 1st.
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They can't franchise him next year if they wanted to?
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I'm not sure how that works. I thought that since he's a RFA this year, that he'd be an UFA next.But even if they could, why would they? I can't imagine them paying him the average of the top 5 QBs no matter how he plays (well, unless it was Brady/Manning like).
 
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snarfsnarf said:
BassNBrew said:
snarfsnarf said:
And Winslow kicks off the offseason by throwing Anderson under the bus. From rotoworld:Kellen Winslow believes Brady Quinn will be the Browns' starting quarterback in 2008."We drafted him," Winslow said. "He's probably going to play. Derek (Anderson) is a great guy, but that's just the way this business works."
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Do you know what it means to "throw someone under the bus"?
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When you help lead the turnaround of your team from under 500 to 10-6, where QB play has been horrible the past few years....and two days after the season is over your TE says you're a great guy but probably not the starter?I'm fully aware the comment wasn't exactly blasting DA, but how about a "DA did great and deserves to start" comment.
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Oh, so it's throwing him under the bus by ommission? All Winslow is doing is stating an opinion based on his perception of the business side of the game. Which is pretty well backed up by the fact that the team has announced that they're open to trading him.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
RUSF18 said:
Andy Dufresne said:
tec79 said:
how difficult is it to find or develop a good to very good starting QB in the NFL? a lot of teams wish they had D Anderson....if i were the Browns I wouldnt part with him for less than a rd 1 pick plus try to get other considerations....look at teams in the Playoffs (e.g. San Diego) or on verge of Playoffs (e.g. Minnesota) that could be better with D Anderson at the helm rather than what they have now.....If it took a late round 1 pick to get B Quinn last year, I would hold out for earlier picks if I was trading D Anderson. Otherwise you are deluding yourself.....but that's just my 0.02 worth....tex
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But if you hold out for a 1st this year and don't get it, then you end up with nothing next year. Look at what happened to the Chargers - they got ZERO for Drew Brees. If the plan is to go with Quinn eventually, take what you can for Anderson, even if it's not a 1st.
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They can't franchise him next year if they wanted to?
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I'm not sure how that works. I thought that since he's a RFA this year, that he'd be an UFA next.But even if they could, why would they? I can't imagine them paying him the average of the top 5 QBs no matter how he plays (well, unless it was Brady/Manning like).
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To the best of my knowledge, all players that are franchised are UFAs. As to why, I was just throwing it out there as an option. They could franchise him as a way to not lose him, like you indicated.
 
RUSF18 said:
Andy Dufresne said:
RUSF18 said:
Andy Dufresne said:
tec79 said:
how difficult is it to find or develop a good to very good starting QB in the NFL? a lot of teams wish they had D Anderson....if i were the Browns I wouldnt part with him for less than a rd 1 pick plus try to get other considerations....look at teams in the Playoffs (e.g. San Diego) or on verge of Playoffs (e.g. Minnesota) that could be better with D Anderson at the helm rather than what they have now.....If it took a late round 1 pick to get B Quinn last year, I would hold out for earlier picks if I was trading D Anderson. Otherwise you are deluding yourself.....but that's just my 0.02 worth....tex
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But if you hold out for a 1st this year and don't get it, then you end up with nothing next year. Look at what happened to the Chargers - they got ZERO for Drew Brees. If the plan is to go with Quinn eventually, take what you can for Anderson, even if it's not a 1st.
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They can't franchise him next year if they wanted to?
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I'm not sure how that works. I thought that since he's a RFA this year, that he'd be an UFA next.But even if they could, why would they? I can't imagine them paying him the average of the top 5 QBs no matter how he plays (well, unless it was Brady/Manning like).
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To the best of my knowledge, all players that are franchised are UFAs. As to why, I was just throwing it out there as an option. They could franchise him as a way to not lose him, like you indicated.
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I wasn't trying to say you were dumb for suggesting it. They could. I just think it would be strange to me if they did.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
FUBAR said:
Andy Dufresne said:
The likeliest scenario to me seems to be either the Falcons or the Dolphins trading one or both of their 2nd rounders.If I were the Browns, the 2.01 or 2.05-ish would be enough for me to part with Anderson.
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The Dolphins have spent enough picks on QBs.
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Doesn't look like it to me! :nerd:
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But now it's Parcells, not Spielman or Mueller. He's had great success with QBs.Maybe Bill will stay with Cleo just so he can say he turned a Lemon into Lemonade. OK, that was really bad. :thumbup:
 
why not entertain offers for Quinn instead of Anderson? It looks like they finally found a stable QB in Anderson .... they have no idea what they have or don't have in QUinn. IDK ... there's some old saying about a bird in hand. I forget how the rest of it goes.

 
burd said:
why not entertain offers for Quinn instead of Anderson? It looks like they finally found a stable QB in Anderson .... they have no idea what they have or don't have in QUinn. IDK ... there's some old saying about a bird in hand. I forget how the rest of it goes.
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That seems the wiser move, but show us when a younger high pick has been traded to keep an older (even if slightly) player. Ever... I'll be here all night. :goodposting:
 
FUBAR said:
burd said:
why not entertain offers for Quinn instead of Anderson? It looks like they finally found a stable QB in Anderson .... they have no idea what they have or don't have in QUinn. IDK ... there's some old saying about a bird in hand. I forget how the rest of it goes.
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That seems the wiser move, but show us when a younger high pick has been traded to keep an older (even if slightly) player. Ever... I'll be here all night. :goodposting:
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Here you go
 
burd said:
why not entertain offers for Quinn instead of Anderson? It looks like they finally found a stable QB in Anderson .... they have no idea what they have or don't have in QUinn. IDK ... there's some old saying about a bird in hand. I forget how the rest of it goes.
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What can you get more for? They of all people know what they have in Quinn so if they're happy with his progress then it makes more sense to get more bang for their buck by ditching off the known commodity. If you were an NFL GM would you trade more for a guy who just put up almost 4000 yards or for a 2nd year guy who slid in the draft and has practically no playing experience to rate? If the Browns are going to trade one of them I think they do it for the guy they get the most for. But that's all dependent on if they feel, after having him for a year, that Quinn is ready and can produce.
 
Is it really a shocker that the "Browns will entertain offers for Anderson"? Every NFL GM should be willing to hear offers for any player on their team.

 
I liked the way Brady looked in his short stint the other day. Personally, I think Anderson did well, though somewhat inconsistent. Face it, he had tools around him, and a very good offensive line. Edwards and Winslow developed right on schedule (though troubled by the amount of balls I saw Winslow drop the past several weeks), Thomas led a stellar O-line and the running game with Lewis was solid. I think lots of QB's could thrive in that environment. Anderson is the sell high of all sell highs.

 
FUBAR said:
burd said:
why not entertain offers for Quinn instead of Anderson? It looks like they finally found a stable QB in Anderson .... they have no idea what they have or don't have in QUinn. IDK ... there's some old saying about a bird in hand. I forget how the rest of it goes.
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That seems the wiser move, but show us when a younger high pick has been traded to keep an older (even if slightly) player. Ever... I'll be here all night. :goodposting:
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Garrard/Leftwich about 4 months ago?
 
Wadsworth said:
FUBAR said:
burd said:
why not entertain offers for Quinn instead of Anderson? It looks like they finally found a stable QB in Anderson .... they have no idea what they have or don't have in QUinn. IDK ... there's some old saying about a bird in hand. I forget how the rest of it goes.
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That seems the wiser move, but show us when a younger high pick has been traded to keep an older (even if slightly) player. Ever... I'll be here all night. :goodposting:
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Garrard/Leftwich about 4 months ago?
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I should have qualified this, but I thought it implied: without giving the high pick 4 years to prove himself.
 
jonboltz said:
FUBAR said:
burd said:
why not entertain offers for Quinn instead of Anderson? It looks like they finally found a stable QB in Anderson .... they have no idea what they have or don't have in QUinn. IDK ... there's some old saying about a bird in hand. I forget how the rest of it goes.
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That seems the wiser move, but show us when a younger high pick has been traded to keep an older (even if slightly) player. Ever... I'll be here all night. :goodposting:
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Here you go
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2nd round? Maybe that's high, but they didn't draft Favre to be the franchise. Still, probably the best example.
 
Bad decision here. We know Anderson can play pretty well in the NFL. We do not know that about Quinn. This is Brees/Rivers all over again.

 
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