Rashard Mendenhall (1 Viewer)

switz · Jan 3, 2008

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

awesomeness · Jan 3, 2008

Im not a big fan of him either, but i dont know how you think he looked awful against USC. He got over 200 all purpose yards when his team had basically no pass attack, and he averaged 9.1 yards a carry that game. Plus, USC has been good at stopping the run.

switz · Jan 3, 2008

awesomeness said:
Im not a big fan of him either, but i dont know how you think he looked awful against USC. He got over 200 all purpose yards when their team had basically no pass attack. Plus, USC has been good at stopping the run.

I wasn't basing it on stats, I was basing it on watching him run. I know he had the long run, but overall he didn't look good IMO. :goodposting:

awesomeness · Jan 3, 2008

i searched youtube but couldnt find any highlight videos. I searched google and was able to find one.

Rashard Mendenhall highlights

On the right where it lists all the videos, one of them says Rashard Mendenhall highlights so click on that one.

He looks good, but stewart seems to be more shifty and more powerful.

EBF · Jan 3, 2008

I don't think he's overrated. He has ideal size and good speed. He's coming off a monster campaign in a conference known to produce some pretty good NFL RBs. That seems like a strong enough pedigree to warrant his status as a potential late first round pick. No one's saying he's the next Marshall Faulk.

moderated · Jan 3, 2008

switz said:
Am I the only one who thinks this?He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or James Stewart?

Mendenhall is a decent prospect, but he's not on the level of a Stewart. Felix Jones is tricky since we haven't seen him carry much of a load, but his explosiveness is top notch.Then again i view Stewart on the same level as McFadden, so maybe i over-rate him.I don't think there is much of a chance Mendenhall goes in the 1st round, but he should go in the 2nd.

ninerfanatic492000 · Jan 3, 2008

lousy IL RB's, he'll probably be as bad as Pierre Thomas given the chance :loco:

redman · Jan 3, 2008

I don't know about seriously overrated, but the guy has very good speed, seems to have good vision, is a very good receiver out of the backfield, and has nice size. For me, that's a nice starting point, even recognizing that it's a guarantee of nothing.

supermark_28 · Jan 3, 2008

I actually didn't think he looked that bad against SC either but I wouldn't take him over Stewart.

I'm not an Illinois homer by any stretch of the imagination but the Qb and offense they run looked horrible in that game.

I think if you had a fantasy rookie draft right now though he would most likely be a top 3 or 4 RB,just my 2 cents.

NoFBinLA · Jan 3, 2008

supermark_28 said:
I actually didn't think he looked that bad against SC either but I wouldn't take him over Stewart.I'm not an Illinois homer by any stretch of the imagination but the Qb and offense they run looked horrible in that game.I think if you had a fantasy rookie draft right now though he would most likely be a top 3 or 4 RB,just my 2 cents.

I watched that game again to analyse some USC players and in watching that game, he seemed to be the only bright spot for an overmatched ILL team. He looks like a load, but seems to have some deceptive speed.I was watching the game specifically to watch the Trojans this time out and so forwarded past much of the ILL struggling O - but even only glimpsing him, he didn't look bad. I dunno that he's so highly regarded that he's overrated though.It interested me enough to do further research, that's for sure.

switz · Jan 3, 2008

awesomeness said:
i searched youtube but couldnt find any highlight videos. I searched google and was able to find one.

Rashard Mendenhall highlights

On the right where it lists all the videos, one of them says Rashard Mendenhall highlights so click on that one.

He looks good, but stewart seems to be more shifty and more powerful.

Thanks for the link. I admit to not knowing too much about him outside of seeing a few people rank him as the #2 or #3 RB in the class. And I just was expecting more in the Bowl game.The highlights are interesting, I was impressed by his run against Michigan. It's hard to tell too much as they sped things up on the replays, but he does seem to have decent vision. I wish there was more film on him.

I've seen much more of McFadden and Jones, who I'm extremely impressed with. And Stewart seems solid, though not spectacular from the times I've seen him. Mendenhall just seemed easy to bring down vs. USC

It will be interestign to see what his stock is like when the draft nears, thanks everyone for the feedback so far.

redman · Jan 3, 2008

switz said:
awesomeness said:

i searched youtube but couldnt find any highlight videos. I searched google and was able to find one.

Rashard Mendenhall highlights

On the right where it lists all the videos, one of them says Rashard Mendenhall highlights so click on that one.

He looks good, but stewart seems to be more shifty and more powerful.

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Thanks for the link. I admit to not knowing too much about him outside of seeing a few people rank him as the #2 or #3 RB in the class. And I just was expecting more in the Bowl game.The highlights are interesting, I was impressed by his run against Michigan. It's hard to tell too much as they sped things up on the replays, but he does seem to have decent vision. I wish there was more film on him.

I've seen much more of McFadden and Jones, who I'm extremely impressed with. And Stewart seems solid, though not spectacular from the times I've seen him. Mendenhall just seemed easy to bring down vs. USC

It will be interestign to see what his stock is like when the draft nears, thanks everyone for the feedback so far.

Regarding that Rose Bowl game, keep in mind that he was facing as good of a front 7 as any in college football, and not only that they were all healthy and playing their best football. Even assuming Maualuga returns, four of those guys will go in the first two rounds according to most projections I've seen. They did shut him down in the first half, but what was impressive to me was that he continued to run hard and when he got any kind of space he was gone.

yellowdog · Jan 3, 2008

switz said:
Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or James Stewart?

James Stewart's best work is behind him. He was great in Rear Window. Jonathan Stewart, on the other hand, has a very bright future in the NFL to look forward to.

Schrute · Jan 3, 2008

yellowdog said:
switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or James Stewart?

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James Stewart's best work is behind him. He was great in Rear Window. Jonathan Stewart, on the other hand, has a very bright future in the NFL to look forward to.

Poppa · Jan 3, 2008

tombonneau · Jan 3, 2008

yellowdog said:
switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or James Stewart?

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James Stewart's best work is behind him. He was great in Rear Window. Jonathan Stewart, on the other hand, has a very bright future in the NFL to look forward to.

I thought James Stewart of the Jags was making a comeback. :shrug:

ConstruxBoy · Jan 3, 2008

switz said:
awesomeness said:

i searched youtube but couldnt find any highlight videos. I searched google and was able to find one.

Rashard Mendenhall highlights

On the right where it lists all the videos, one of them says Rashard Mendenhall highlights so click on that one.

He looks good, but stewart seems to be more shifty and more powerful.

Click to expand...

Thanks for the link. I admit to not knowing too much about him outside of seeing a few people rank him as the #2 or #3 RB in the class. And I just was expecting more in the Bowl game.The highlights are interesting, I was impressed by his run against Michigan. It's hard to tell too much as they sped things up on the replays, but he does seem to have decent vision. I wish there was more film on him.

I've seen much more of McFadden and Jones, who I'm extremely impressed with. And Stewart seems solid, though not spectacular from the times I've seen him. Mendenhall just seemed easy to bring down vs. USC

It will be interestign to see what his stock is like when the draft nears, thanks everyone for the feedback so far.

FWIW, I'm just starting my next Break Down the Tape article for Draftguys on Mendenhall from the Michigan game.

Biabreakable · Jan 3, 2008

redman said:
switz said:

awesomeness said:

i searched youtube but couldnt find any highlight videos. I searched google and was able to find one.

Rashard Mendenhall highlights

On the right where it lists all the videos, one of them says Rashard Mendenhall highlights so click on that one.

He looks good, but stewart seems to be more shifty and more powerful.

Click to expand...

Thanks for the link. I admit to not knowing too much about him outside of seeing a few people rank him as the #2 or #3 RB in the class. And I just was expecting more in the Bowl game.The highlights are interesting, I was impressed by his run against Michigan. It's hard to tell too much as they sped things up on the replays, but he does seem to have decent vision. I wish there was more film on him.

I've seen much more of McFadden and Jones, who I'm extremely impressed with. And Stewart seems solid, though not spectacular from the times I've seen him. Mendenhall just seemed easy to bring down vs. USC

It will be interestign to see what his stock is like when the draft nears, thanks everyone for the feedback so far.

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Regarding that Rose Bowl game, keep in mind that he was facing as good of a front 7 as any in college football, and not only that they were all healthy and playing their best football. Even assuming Maualuga returns, four of those guys will go in the first two rounds according to most projections I've seen. They did shut him down in the first half, but what was impressive to me was that he continued to run hard and when he got any kind of space he was gone.

That was my observation as well. The USC Dline was owning the Oline and I don't think many pro starters would have looked good with that lack of blocking without some sick tackle breaking ability. I only watched the 1st half before I couldn't stomach watching such unfairly matched opponents anymore. Main reason I don't watch much college football is because of this lopsidedness.Mendenhall may be good enough to start for a team in the NFL.. maybe not. I didn't see anything special from him except he has good speed.

Liquid Tension · Jan 3, 2008

switz said:
Am I the only one who thinks this?He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or James Stewart?

Wow, he must be rated the best back in college to be overrated. I also think he looked good (not awful). the OL of UI was getting owned and USC was doing nothing but trying to stop Rashard. many times he was hit behind the LOS and many times he broke a few tackles only to get hit by two more guys. he also showed pretty good hands, vision and excellent top end speed. if anything, I think he looked good. :confused:

Stewy · Jan 3, 2008

I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.

If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

switz · Jan 3, 2008

yellowdog said:
switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or James Stewart?

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James Stewart's best work is behind him. He was great in Rear Window. Jonathan Stewart, on the other hand, has a very bright future in the NFL to look forward to.

Ay carumba... I meant Jonathon...

Rev · Jan 3, 2008

Looks alot like Brandon Jackson to me.

awesomeness · Jan 3, 2008

Stewy said:
I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

good thing college numbers arent the end all in judging a college prospect for the NFL, otherwise Ryan Leif would sitll be playing in the NFL.

jwb · Jan 3, 2008

In watching Mendenhall play, what caught my eye the most was his first instinct seems to be that stutter-step dance that some RB's do. He doesn't seem to hit the hole with any authority. You can get away with that in college, but the pros will eat you alive.

He may still be a good NFL RB, but I probably won't draft him.

Cheesedawg · Jan 4, 2008

Stewy said:
I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

If Stewart is so unbelievable, why did he spend his last three games in pivotal November/early December getting 80 carries and traveling only 327 yards and reaching the end zone zero times in college? In Mendenhall's last 87 carries over four games (including versus Ohio State and So Cal), he posted 560 yards and 5 TD's. Mendenhall also caught a lot more balls out of the backfield this year than Stewart, although I have seen no scouting reports personally about their pass catching abilities. 210 lbs coming out of college is a pretty good weight when you have speed like him. I like Mendenhall over everyone who isn't named McFadden.

EBF · Jan 4, 2008

Cheesedawg said:
If Stewart is so unbelievable, why did he spend his last three games in pivotal November/early December getting 80 carries and traveling only 327 yards and reaching the end zone zero times in college?

Turf toe.

awesomeness · Jan 4, 2008

Cheesedawg said:
Stewy said:

I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.

If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

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If Stewart is so unbelievable, why did he spend his last three games in pivotal November/early December getting 80 carries and traveling only 327 yards and reaching the end zone zero times in college?In Mendenhall's last 87 carries over four games (including versus Ohio State and So Cal), he posted 560 yards and 5 TD's. Mendenhall also caught a lot more balls out of the backfield this year than Stewart, although I have seen no scouting reports personally about their pass catching abilities. 210 lbs coming out of college is a pretty good weight when you have speed like him. I like Mendenhall over everyone who isn't named McFadden.

you cant take the last 4 games from Medenhall and only take 3 of Stewarts last 4 games, ignoring his best game of that 4 game stretch and get any merit in your comparison.

TitusIII · Jan 4, 2008

There was a reason this kid was a 5 star prospect coming out of HS, and he put up some amazing numbers on a team with essentially no passing game. USC was putting 8 in the box 99% of the time, and he made them pay, like a 1st round RB should...

I don't see how you can watch his 88 yard TD run, or his 55 yard reception against the best D in the country not be seriously impressed with Mendenhall. He has every tool that an elite RB needs...

awesomeness · Jan 4, 2008

TitusIII said:
There was a reason this kid was a 5 star prospect coming out of HS, and he put up some amazing numbers on a team with essentially no passing game. USC was putting 8 in the box 99% of the time, and he made them pay, like a 1st round RB should...I don't see how you can watch his 88 yard TD run, or his 55 yard reception against the best D in the country not be seriously impressed with Mendenhall. He has every tool that an elite RB needs...

For the record, it was a 79 yard TD run, impressive nonetheless.

mightyeskimo · Jan 4, 2008

switz said:
Am I the only one who thinks this?He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

Not Stewart. But yes, over all those other guys. The USC game had nothing to do with Rashard's individual performance. The lack of protection from the offensive line, the horrible play calling and Juice's lack of downfield throwing ability all equaled defenders in the backfield on every play. Illinois was just plain outmatched. Much like Hawaii. I still think Colt is a good QB who will have a good NFL career. Being sacked 8 times (or whatever it was) and hurried/knocked down 15 times will just not allow you to have your best game.

Lombaowski · Jan 4, 2008

TitusIII said:
There was a reason this kid was a 5 star prospect coming out of HS, and he put up some amazing numbers on a team with essentially no passing game. USC was putting 8 in the box 99% of the time, and he made them pay, like a 1st round RB should...I don't see how you can watch his 88 yard TD run, or his 55 yard reception against the best D in the country not be seriously impressed with Mendenhall. He has every tool that an elite RB needs...

I think he has a lot going for him as far as natural ability and he's going to get some long looks with his speed and decent size. Although Illinois was 10-3 they are just two years removed from 2-9 and the talent is still not up to par. Seeing USC manhandle them should have come as no surprise to anyone. To me one game is never a good barometer and this one game in particular does not show us what Mendenhall could eventually be.

Cheesedawg · Jan 4, 2008

awesomeness said:
Cheesedawg said:

Stewy said:

I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.

If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

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If Stewart is so unbelievable, why did he spend his last three games in pivotal November/early December getting 80 carries and traveling only 327 yards and reaching the end zone zero times in college?In Mendenhall's last 87 carries over four games (including versus Ohio State and So Cal), he posted 560 yards and 5 TD's. Mendenhall also caught a lot more balls out of the backfield this year than Stewart, although I have seen no scouting reports personally about their pass catching abilities. 210 lbs coming out of college is a pretty good weight when you have speed like him. I like Mendenhall over everyone who isn't named McFadden.

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you cant take the last 4 games from Medenhall and only take 3 of Stewarts last 4 games, ignoring his best game of that 4 game stretch and get any merit in your comparison.

Because comparing those periods gave one back 87 carries and the other 80...a pretty good comparison. When Oregon's QB went down and defenses no longer had to spread out all over the field, Stewart became a 4 yards per carry back with no breakaways or TD's. He is not as good as Mendenhall IMO.

bigums · Jan 4, 2008

Cheesedawg said:
awesomeness said:

Cheesedawg said:

Stewy said:

I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.

If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

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If Stewart is so unbelievable, why did he spend his last three games in pivotal November/early December getting 80 carries and traveling only 327 yards and reaching the end zone zero times in college?In Mendenhall's last 87 carries over four games (including versus Ohio State and So Cal), he posted 560 yards and 5 TD's. Mendenhall also caught a lot more balls out of the backfield this year than Stewart, although I have seen no scouting reports personally about their pass catching abilities. 210 lbs coming out of college is a pretty good weight when you have speed like him. I like Mendenhall over everyone who isn't named McFadden.

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you cant take the last 4 games from Medenhall and only take 3 of Stewarts last 4 games, ignoring his best game of that 4 game stretch and get any merit in your comparison.

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Because comparing those periods gave one back 87 carries and the other 80...a pretty good comparison. When Oregon's QB went down and defenses no longer had to spread out all over the field, Stewart became a 4 yards per carry back with no breakaways or TD's. He is not as good as Mendenhall IMO.

Why would you ignore his bowl performance against one of the better defenses in the country with the 4th string redshirt freshman QB calling signals? He should have done worse based on your analysis above, but instead set a Sun Bowl (second oldest bowl - 74 years) record with a career day.

az_prof · Jan 4, 2008

The people who are saying he didn't look good or only looked good make me question if they really watched the game. He looked great. I also watched the Arkansas bowl game and thought Mendhall looked much better than McFadden even though he was going against one of the best defenses in the country. I see him as potentially being as good as any of these guys in the NFL. He has quickness and speed and good instincts and can catch the ball. At this point I don't know how I rank all the RBs but to say that Mendhall is overrated is just plain wrong and people need to provide more explanation and support if they want to say that.

TitusIII said:
There was a reason this kid was a 5 star prospect coming out of HS, and he put up some amazing numbers on a team with essentially no passing game. USC was putting 8 in the box 99% of the time, and he made them pay, like a 1st round RB should...I don't see how you can watch his 88 yard TD run, or his 55 yard reception against the best D in the country not be seriously impressed with Mendenhall. He has every tool that an elite RB needs...

redman · Jan 4, 2008

Cheesedawg said:
awesomeness said:

Cheesedawg said:

Stewy said:

I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.

If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

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If Stewart is so unbelievable, why did he spend his last three games in pivotal November/early December getting 80 carries and traveling only 327 yards and reaching the end zone zero times in college?In Mendenhall's last 87 carries over four games (including versus Ohio State and So Cal), he posted 560 yards and 5 TD's. Mendenhall also caught a lot more balls out of the backfield this year than Stewart, although I have seen no scouting reports personally about their pass catching abilities. 210 lbs coming out of college is a pretty good weight when you have speed like him. I like Mendenhall over everyone who isn't named McFadden.

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you cant take the last 4 games from Medenhall and only take 3 of Stewarts last 4 games, ignoring his best game of that 4 game stretch and get any merit in your comparison.

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Because comparing those periods gave one back 87 carries and the other 80...a pretty good comparison. When Oregon's QB went down and defenses no longer had to spread out all over the field, Stewart became a 4 yards per carry back with no breakaways or TD's. He is not as good as Mendenhall IMO.

You're cherry picking games and stats. We're big boys and girls here who don't need you to have the carries be completely even in order to grasp a point to be made (or not) in a comparison.

happy_donut · Jan 4, 2008

redman said:
Cheesedawg said:

awesomeness said:

Cheesedawg said:

Stewy said:

I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.

If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

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If Stewart is so unbelievable, why did he spend his last three games in pivotal November/early December getting 80 carries and traveling only 327 yards and reaching the end zone zero times in college?In Mendenhall's last 87 carries over four games (including versus Ohio State and So Cal), he posted 560 yards and 5 TD's. Mendenhall also caught a lot more balls out of the backfield this year than Stewart, although I have seen no scouting reports personally about their pass catching abilities. 210 lbs coming out of college is a pretty good weight when you have speed like him. I like Mendenhall over everyone who isn't named McFadden.

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you cant take the last 4 games from Medenhall and only take 3 of Stewarts last 4 games, ignoring his best game of that 4 game stretch and get any merit in your comparison.

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Because comparing those periods gave one back 87 carries and the other 80...a pretty good comparison. When Oregon's QB went down and defenses no longer had to spread out all over the field, Stewart became a 4 yards per carry back with no breakaways or TD's. He is not as good as Mendenhall IMO.

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You're cherry picking games and stats. We're big boys and girls here who don't need you to have the carries be completely even in order to grasp a point to be made (or not) in a comparison.

Why does it take Mendenhall 4 games to get as many carries as Stewart gets in 3 when Mendenhall is the focus of the Ill offense?

jasonbay · Jan 4, 2008

switz said:
Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

Since when did people start thinking Felix Jones was a lock to enter early?

yellowdog · Jan 4, 2008

switz said:
Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

awesomeness · Jan 4, 2008

yellowdog said:
switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

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Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

its kind of early to judge if this class is any good or not, since none of them have actually played a game in the NFL yet. The 2005 NFL RBs had some hype to them as well. Lets just say that didnt turn out so well.

switz · Jan 4, 2008

yellowdog said:
switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

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Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

I guess you are more impressed with these guys than I am.

Andy Dufresne · Jan 4, 2008

awesomeness said:
its kind of early to judge if this class is any good or not, since none of them have actually played a game in the NFL yet. The 2005 NFL RBs had some hype to them as well. Lets just say that didnt turn out so well.

That's not too fair either. Ronnie Brown and Cadillac have shown great ability only to be cut down by injury. No way you can say they don't have the talent though.Frank Gore, Marion Barber III, and Brandon Jacobs all came from that class as well.

awesomeness · Jan 4, 2008

Andy Dufresne said:
awesomeness said:

its kind of early to judge if this class is any good or not, since none of them have actually played a game in the NFL yet. The 2005 NFL RBs had some hype to them as well. Lets just say that didnt turn out so well.

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That's not too fair either. Ronnie Brown and Cadillac have shown great ability only to be cut down by injury. No way you can say they don't have the talent though.Frank Gore, Marion Barber III, and Brandon Jacobs all came from that class as well.

Cadillac hasnt shown too much since his rookie season really.

yellowdog · Jan 4, 2008

switz said:
yellowdog said:

switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

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Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

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I guess you are more impressed with these guys than I am.

I am pretty impressed with several of these guys. I was just curious which class you might compare these guys to. I am in serious rebuild mode for next year's fantasy draft where most of the current NFL talent will be unavailbale. I will have an opportunity to grab 3 or 4 of this year's class. Here is a rundown of every draft by position. Which do you consider better than the potential 2008 class?

switz · Jan 4, 2008

yellowdog said:
switz said:

yellowdog said:

switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

Click to expand...

Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

Click to expand...

I guess you are more impressed with these guys than I am.

Click to expand...

I am pretty impressed with several of these guys. I was just curious which class you might compare these guys to. I am in serious rebuild mode for next year's fantasy draft where most of the current NFL talent will be unavailbale. I will have an opportunity to grab 3 or 4 of this year's class. Here is a rundown of every draft by position. Which do you consider better than the potential 2008 class?

You would probably wish this were the 2006 class then so you could grab Bush, Addai, MJD, and MaroneyIf I were to compare this to a class, it'd be 1995.

yellowdog · Jan 4, 2008

switz said:
yellowdog said:

switz said:

yellowdog said:

switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

Click to expand...

Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

Click to expand...

I guess you are more impressed with these guys than I am.

Click to expand...

I am pretty impressed with several of these guys. I was just curious which class you might compare these guys to. I am in serious rebuild mode for next year's fantasy draft where most of the current NFL talent will be unavailbale. I will have an opportunity to grab 3 or 4 of this year's class. Here is a rundown of every draft by position. Which do you consider better than the potential 2008 class?

Click to expand...

You would probably wish this were the 2006 class then so you could grab Bush, Addai, MJD, and MaroneyIf I were to compare this to a class, it'd be 1995.

hmm.

redman · Jan 4, 2008

switz said:
yellowdog said:

switz said:

yellowdog said:

switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

Click to expand...

Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

Click to expand...

I guess you are more impressed with these guys than I am.

Click to expand...

I am pretty impressed with several of these guys. I was just curious which class you might compare these guys to. I am in serious rebuild mode for next year's fantasy draft where most of the current NFL talent will be unavailbale. I will have an opportunity to grab 3 or 4 of this year's class. Here is a rundown of every draft by position. Which do you consider better than the potential 2008 class?

Click to expand...

You would probably wish this were the 2006 class then so you could grab Bush, Addai, MJD, and MaroneyIf I were to compare this to a class, it'd be 1995.

You mean the one with Terrell Davis and CuMar? :popcorn:

Stewy · Jan 4, 2008

awesomeness said:
Stewy said:

I'm no expert but, by the numbers, Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall are essentially the same prospect. Stewart is 5'11" 230 lbs. Mendenhall is 5'11" 224 lbs. Stewart ran for 1722 yards at 6.2 yards per carry with 22 catches this season. Mendenhall ran for 1681 yards at 6.4 yards per carry and 34 receptions.If anything Mendenhall has the better numbers with more TD, more catches, and a better YPC.

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good thing college numbers arent the end all in judging a college prospect for the NFL, otherwise Ryan Leif would sitll be playing in the NFL.

Maybe you need to re-read my post. Nowhere did I say the numbers were totally indicative of the players' future chances in the NFL. I was simply stating the both Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart look like good pro prospects and their numbers don't distinguish one over the other.

switz · Jan 4, 2008

redman said:
switz said:

yellowdog said:

switz said:

yellowdog said:

switz said:

Am I the only one who thinks this?

He looked awful against USC. His competition has been far weaker than most, yet he still is talked about as being in the top-3 RBs, sometimes even #2.

Granted I don't think this RB class is that good at all, but would you really take Mendenhall over Felix Jones or Jonathon Stewart - or Charles now that he's entered??

Click to expand...

Assuming the 4 you listed, along with McFadden, Rice, and Slaton come out; show me a better recent draft class than this bunch.

Click to expand...

I guess you are more impressed with these guys than I am.

Click to expand...

I am pretty impressed with several of these guys. I was just curious which class you might compare these guys to. I am in serious rebuild mode for next year's fantasy draft where most of the current NFL talent will be unavailbale. I will have an opportunity to grab 3 or 4 of this year's class. Here is a rundown of every draft by position. Which do you consider better than the potential 2008 class?

Click to expand...

You would probably wish this were the 2006 class then so you could grab Bush, Addai, MJD, and MaroneyIf I were to compare this to a class, it'd be 1995.

Click to expand...

You mean the one with Terrell Davis and CuMar?

Yep, that's the same draft class where a couple later round picks turned out to be stars, but the players everyone hyped ended up sucking.McFadden = KiJana

Stewart = Wheatley

I'm not sure where Mendenhall fits in

And I don't know whether Charles and Jones are in the draft for sure or not...

In all reality, I expect Charles and Jones to translate well in the pros

I don't know that much about Mendenhall which is why I starter this thread

McFadden is probably going to fail in the NFL

Stewart is too slow IMO

But my opinions are hardly formed on tons of evidence, so I'll be avidly reading people's opinions on this class, and trying to catch as much film as I can before my fantasy draft.

EBF · Jan 4, 2008

switz said:
Stewart is too slow IMO

You can make the case that he's not quick enough, but speed is not an issue. He's at least as fast as Steven Jackson. Wheatley is not a very good comparison IMO. I see Stewart as a Fred Taylor/Rudi Johnson hybrid.

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