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Dynasty Shopping Mall (1 Viewer)

Jeff Tefertiller

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I wanted to keep these going after the fantasy season was over. I apologize for the length, but it is the offseason.

Just like any other shopping mall, this will have different products at different levels of quality and price. We will shop around at different stores that are in typical shopping malls like Bloomingdales, Macy’s, Sears, American Eagle and even the Dollar Store. We will look for products to buy, with the focus on value. Many times the expensive products are worth the price. Some times they are not. We will examine opportunities to buy at a reasonable price compared to value. The products we are purchasing are fantasy players for our dynasty team. This was a weekly article during the season. Even though the season has ended, dynasty owners are still trying to improve their teams. The Dynasty Shopping Mall will be made available in the Shark Pool for the offseason. Please feel free to shoot me a Pm or email with any feedback.

As we finish up the NFL season, this is a perfect time to look at how some of the rookie draft picks fared and determine if any are good prospects to buy. One goal is to look at underperforming rookies who could “get it” and turn into viable starting players for fantasy owners. For the first installment, the focus will be on the wide receiver class. The rookie receivers were not expected to do much, outside of Calvin Johnson. But, this has turned into a very good receiver class. One thing to keep in mind is that rookie pass catchers take time to develop. Many good NFL wideouts did nothing in their rookie seasons. The maturation process for rookies at the position varies by player and by the situation.

Dwayne Bowe – The rookie from LSU was heralded by many pre-draft experts as a top NFL and fantasy prospect. Bowe’s ability to make a big play was greatly needed by the Chiefs. He showed flashes of greatness, but his potential was overshadowed the poor quarterback play of Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard. The Kansas City Chiefs are a team in transition with little receiver depth outside of Bowe and aging veteran Eddie Kennison. With Tony Gonzalez getting older, Dwayne Bowe should quickly become the focal point of the Kansas City passing game very soon. The age of the offensive line, combined with the poor play at quarterback, translate into the Chiefs relying heavily on Larry Johnson and on their promising young pass catcher.

Outlook: The Chief offense is centered on Larry Johnson when he is healthy. Head coach, Herm Edwards, dictates a very conservative offense as evidenced by the play calling. It will be interesting to see how Chan Gailey will do as offensive coordinator and if there will be any changes in the offense. The quarterback position is unsettled to say the least. Eddie Kennison is the only other decent receiver on the team, and even that might be a stretch. Tony Gonzalez is a huge receiving threat at tight end, but is getting older. Samie Parker and Jeff Webb are the only other receivers for the Chiefs, and neither is startable, even for the Chiefs. Many of these factors will change in the next couple of years leaving Bowe as the unquestioned WR1 and primary target in the passing game. Coach Edwards may not be around long after another poor season in 2008, which looks like a strong probability. Kennison will be 35 years old and on is the decline. The quarterback situation is still up in the air. The future passer for the franchise is not yet on the roster. The position cannot get much worse for a fantasy receiver. The Chiefs of 2009 will look much different than the Chiefs of 2007.

Store: Bloomingdales

Price: 2008 1st

Recommendation: Dwayne Bowe looks like a future star of the league. He could be a fantasy WR1 in a couple of years. If the Chiefs get a change in coaches and systems, along with a quarterback upgrade, then Bowe is an anchor for all dynasty teams. With his injuries and decline in production late in the year, this might be the time to buy Bowe at his cheapest level going forward.

Dwayne Jarrett – The rookie from USC was viewed as a good NFL prospect. He was good enough that Keyshawn Johnson was released soon after Jarrett was drafted. The Panthers thought Jarrett would be an ideal complement to Steve Smith. The former Trojan is a big, strong possession receiver that made great catches at the college level. But, his work ethic was not what it should be. This and his inability to pick up the offense led the Panthers to start Kerry Colbert and Drew Carter over the rookie.

Outlook: Jarrett could have started by midseason if he had worked hard and applied himself. Drew Carter is a free agent this offseason. Also, most think Kerry Colbert will not be with the Panthers in 2008 as well. There is great opportunity for the former USC star to get out of coach Fox’s doghouse and earn the starting receiver job opposite Steve Smith. Considering how opposing teams focus on stopping Smith, the receiver starting on the other side does have opportunity to produce.

Store: Macy’s

Price: 2008 2nd

Recommendation: Let someone else pay the price. Issues like work ethic and not dedicating ones self to learning the playbook are ones that should scare fantasy owners. The NFL is littered with talented players who have not applied themselves and are now backups. The longer it takes for Dwayne Jarrett to “get it”, the more the comparisons to Mike Williams will linger. But, if the price is cheap enough, Jarrett becomes a “buy low”.

Sidney Rice – Sydney Rice joined former Gamecock receiver, Troy Williamson, in the Twin Cities. The Viking receivers suffered through a rough season with poor quarterback play for much of the season. The Minnesota offense is focused around a strong running game, anchored by rookie Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor. The quarterback play should improve over time and Rice will be looked upon to key the Viking passing game in the not too distant future. Sidney Rice made some big plays for the Viking passing game and will be relied on to make plays in the coming years.

Outlook: This looks to be a tough situation for any Viking receiver to produce good fantasy numbers any time soon. The Vikings brought in veteran wideouts, Bobby Wade and Robert Ferguson, in 2007. Rice came out of college as a redshirt sophomore. He just turned 21 years old during this past season. Rice was one player who might have benefited from staying in school one more year and developing his craft a little more. Williamson will be gone this offseason. It looks like Rice and Wade will start in 2008, with Ferguson and rookie Andrae Allison coming off of the bench.

Store: Bloomingdales

Price: 2008 1st round pick or a 2008 2nd and a good prospect.

Recommendation: The Viking offense will progress some as the young Tarvaris Jackson matures. There is talk of a veteran passer being brought in by the Vikings to provide competition for the young quarterback. This is a good time to buy the young receiver. He looks to have the potential to be a top fifteen receiver in a couple of years. Upside of the former Gamecock is high. He just needs time to mature. Fantasy owners need to have patience, as it might be the 2009 season before Rice becomes a fantasy starter.

Jason Hill – Jason Hill was a very productive receiver while at Washington State. He averaged a touchdown reception for every collegiate game he caught a pass. Hill even quieted his critics by posting a very fast 40-yard dash time at the NFL combine. The rookie was injured during much of camp and preseason and was an afterthought for many fantasy owners during his rookie season. With Mike Martz becoming the offensive coordinator, and the relative lack of receiver depth, Jason Hill should get a chance to shine in 2008.

Outlook: The Forty-Niners have little depth at the receiver position. Veterans Darrell Jackson and Arnaz Battle are the favorites to start for the Martz-led offense. But, the former Ram and Lion offensive coordinator is known for running a lot of three and four receiver sets. This leaves the door wide open for Jason Hill to make his mark in year two of his career. Ashley Lelie is the only other receiver on the roster, and the former Bronco is not a polished route-runner by any means.

Store: Dollar Store

Price: 2008 3rd or possibly available on the waiver wire.

Recommendation: Some fantasy owners have given up hope and dropped Jason Hill. This is your chance to buy him low. He is a talented rookie receiver that can be a NFL playmaking wideout. Also, a consideration has to be the injury histories of both Jackson and Battle, giving Hill more opportunity. This is a great situation to buy. Many fantasy owners are too impatient with rookie receivers. With this cheap of a price, Jason Hill is a good gamble for dynasty owners.

Steve Smith – Known as “the other Steve Smith” by many fantasy owners, Smith came into the NFL as good NFL prospect. The Giant offense was in a state of flux with the Tiki retirement, Amani Toomer’s age and dependence on Eli Manning to make plays in Tom Coughlin’s conservative offense. Smith was drafted to possibly take over for Toomer, but the veteran played well and was a reliable wide receiver for Manning. Also, Smith has battled injuries for most of the season. The Giants recognized the need for another playmaking receiver in 2006 and drafted Sinorice Moss. But, Moss has been a disappointment. Steve Smith may not be the type of playmaker as his brother, but he will be dependable possession receiver that an oft-rattled Eli Manning will need.

Outlook: The Giants’ offense will look much different in 2008 than in 2007. Each year could start the decline of Toomer. Both Jeremy Shockey and Plaxico Burress should be fully healed by training camp. Smith looks to be the third or fourth option in the passing game. The Giant offense is geared around an effective run game, and a possession receiver like the former Trojan will see plenty of opportunity on shallow routes across the middle of the field.

Store: The Gap

Price: 2008 2nd round pick or a good prospect

Recommendation: Buy if you think Steve Smith will produce Amani Toomer-like numbers in the future. He battled injuries throughout his rookie season and his owners could be ready to give up on the young pass catcher. Granted, Smith will never produce fantasy numbers to the level of the elite receivers, but he should enjoy many seasons of decent WR3 or WR4 level production.

Calvin Johnson – Touted as a future All Pro coming into his rookie season, Johnson disappointed fantasy owners. He struggled to get on the field due to injuries and was slowly worked into the lineup with Shaun McDonald and Mike Furrey playing well. Many extrapolated the upside of a Mike Martz offense and thought the former Georgia Tech star would be a phenom from day one. Well, that did not happen and Martz is now in San Francisco. With a more traditional and balanced offense going forward, the upside may not be as high, less a rumored trade of Roy Williams. The veteran from Texas will be a free agent next offseason and the Lions will look to get something for the wideout before he leaves.

Outlook: With a more balanced offense, the Lions are not expected to attempt as many passes per game. This will limit the potential for the Johnson at least for another year. Calvin Johnson has top ten potential. He is still young should continue to improve as a receiver. Johnson has ideal size and catches the ball well away from his body. The two big question marks for Calvin Johnson are who will be the starting quarterback for the Lions in the coming years and can Johnson stay healthy for an entire season.

Store: Barney’s

Price: 2008 1st round pick and a decent prospect

Recommendation: Calvin Johnson is a good receiver to buy, if you can get him at a reasonable price. He has the potential to be a top fantasy wideout for many years. There are no pass catchers in the 2008 draft class of his caliber so fantasy owners needing a good young receiver are best off trading for Johnson.

Anthony Gonzalez – The rookie from Ohio State got his chance to shine with the knee injury to Marvin Harrison. He played well and showed that the Colts made a wise draft choice in 2007. Harrison is getting older and there is a growing chance that he is not on the Colts in 2008. If this is the case, there will be ample opportunity for the former Buckeye to produce top twenty fantasy receiver. Anthony Gonzalez is in the perfect situation to best utilize his skill set.

Outlook: At worst, the young pass catcher will be the slot receiver for the Colts in 2008. He looks to be in the process of taking over for the veteran Harrison. As long as Peyton Manning is the quarterback and Reggie Wayne lining up as the other starter in Indianapolis, there will be a great opportunity for Anthony Gonzalez to produce good numbers. His speed is deceptive and has he shown himself to be a reliable option for Manning.

Store: American Eagle

Price: 2008 1st round pick or a 2nd and a good prospect

Recommendation: Anthony Gonzalez is a definite buy. His cost should be lower than Johnson, Bowe, or even Rice, but the former Ohio State Buckeye has a chance to produce better fantasy numbers than all of the three. This is one of those times where situation trumps talent, even though Gonzalez is talented.

James Jones – The rookie from San Jose State surprised many this year when he played very well while replacing the injured Greg Jennings. But, for most of the season, Jones split time with Koren Robinson as the third receiver for the Green Bay Packers. With Donald Driver turning 33 years old soon, James Jones looks to be the perfect long-term complement to Jennings. Many fantasy owners had never heard of Jones when he was drafted, but the rookie was a hot item for the first few weeks of the season.

Outlook: The Green Bay Packers are led by Brett Favre and Donald Driver, but the young talent of Ryan Grant, Greg Jennings, and Jones give much hope for the future. But, as long as Driver is playing for the Packers, Jones’ owners are going to be disappointed. The young pass catcher will have to bide his time. He looks to be a good young fantasy wideout, but is far from startable at this time.

Store: The Gap

Price: 2008 2nd round pick or a good prospect

Recommendation: Buy if you are sold on the talent of James Jones. Owners will need patience. It could be a couple of years before Jones is given the chance to showcase his skills on a full time basis. He has the ability to be a lower end fantasy WR2 for many years.

Jacoby Jones – The rookie from tiny Lane came on the scene with good showings in the pre-draft all star games and workouts. Jones was injured for much of his rookie season, but still showed why the Texans were so high on him. Jacoby Jones is a playmaker, whether as a receiver or returning kicks. The youngster makes some big plays and has the size and athletic ability to be a star in the league. When it is all said and done, Jones has a chance to be one of the top two or three wide receivers in this draft class.

Outlook: The Houston Texan offense is explosive and fairly young. Andre Johnson anchors an underrated receiving corps that also includes Kevin Walter and tight end Owen Daniels. Andre Davis is a free agent and will most likely be on another team in 2008. With Matt Schaub under center, the Texans will be able to put up some good passing totals for several years. Jacoby Jones should have the opportunity to supplant Walter as the starting receiver this coming season. Walter looks like an ideal fit as the third receiver for the Texans.

Store: The Old Navy

Price: 2008 2nd round pick or a 3rd round pick and a good prospect

Recommendation: Due to injuries, Jacoby Jones is underrated and undervalued in fantasy leagues. He is a great receiver to buy low. Since Jones came from a small school, he might need a little extra time to mature as a pro receiver, but he has a lot of potential. Owners must be patient and have the roster space to wait for the young player to develop. But, playing for Kubiak is a big plus. Gary Kubiak is great at helping young skill players develop.

There are several wide receivers in this group that can be fantasy starters for a long time. As mentioned above, rookie receivers need time to develop and mature. There are many intricacies of the position that lie far outside the realm of what fantasy owners track. NFL coaches like to see consistency in practice and the willingness to block. These are two main reasons, in addition to learning the playbook; rookie receivers have difficulty finding consistent playing time. But, talent wins in the end and these young wideouts emerge as players that need to be on the field. There were a few rookie wide receivers omitted from this list. Robert Meachem and Ted Ginn are the two most will notice. Both are players that still have high upside, but loads of risk. I also like Laurent Robinson, Mike Walker, and some other rookie receivers, but ran out of space.

With the lack of talent at the top of the 2008 receiver draft class, fantasy owners needing young receivers have a great opportunity to trade a late first round rookie pick for a receiver entering his second year in the league. This is a good strategy just because more is known about the talent and situation than with most rookies. The 2008 rookie class of receivers appears to be more deep than strong.

I hope readers enjoyed the Dynasty Shopping Mall during the season. I will try to post more in the Shark Pool this offseason. For dynasty owners, the season never ends. Please feel free to email or pm me any questions or comments. Also, I would like any feedback from those that read this article during the season. What did you like/dislike? What do you want to see more/less of? A big thank you to the loyal readers of the Dynasty Shopping Mall. I enjoyed writing it each week.

 
I wish I had some perfect way of knowing which of these guys are going to take the next step and which are going to fade into obscurity. It's a pretty tricky science. Sometimes a guy will come onto the scene and flash decent skills only to descend into worthlessness. I'm talking about Antonio Bryant, Rod Gardner, Ashley Lelie, and Donte Stallworth. Once upon a time they were the next big thing. Now they're all occupying various rungs on the worthless ladder, aside from maybe Stallworth (who hasn't exactly been an FF difference maker).

On the flipside, sometimes a guy who flops as a rookie becomes a star. Chad Johnson, Plaxico Burress, Roddy White, and Santana Moss are a few recent examples. This could be viewed as an encouraging sign for owners holding onto Robert Meachem, Dwayne Jarrett, or Jason Hill.

I guess if I had to break things down, I would recommend buying the following:

Calvin Johnson - He was overrated entering the league. He doesn't play like a 4.3 guy and isn't an explosive route runner like a Reggie Wayne or Chad Johnson type. Nevertheless, his talent is undeniable. I think he makes major strides next season.

Sidney Rice - Not the fastest guy, but he's not slow either and he's a playmaker. Lots of upside and a reasonable cost make him a nice acquisition if you can afford to trade some useless depth for him. Worth a mid-late 1st round rookie pick in PPR.

Anthony Gonzalez - I was a "hater" going into the season, but Bill Polian knows how to find players who fit his system. Gonzo should eventually take over the WR2 job for the Colts and become a WR3 or WR2 in FF leagues.

You can bet than one or two of the other rookie WRs will emerge and become contenders for 1,000 yard status. My thoughts on those guys:

Ted Ginn - Certainly an impressive athlete, but kind of an enigma. A decent gamble if the price is right.

Robert Meachem - Last time I saw him was on the back of a milk carton. I don't expect every WR to have a great first year, but zero catches? Yikes. Has some upside, but is a longshot.

Craig Davis - Not excited about this guy. He just doesn't seem special in any way.

Dwayne Jarrett - Great player in college, but lack of footsped and explosiveness might be a fatal flaw in the NFL.

Steve Smith - Good player. Will be starting within two years. He always looked like a second option to me though. Don't see a lot of upside, but maybe he can be an Engram or even a Housh.

Laurent Robinson - Shows flashes. Has some Darrell Jackson in him. Also has some Todd Pinkston in him. Decent gamble though. I have him on a lot of my teams and am planning on keeping him around.

Jacoby Jones - A pretty good risk/reward option if you can get him for a scrub like Crayton. Stuck behind AJ though.

Mike Walker - Good buzz. He destroyed Brian Kelly on a regular basis in camp. Knee is a concern and for all the hype, he doesn't look exceptional in highlights.

James Jones - He looks too slow to be an NFL number one, but he had a pretty good rookie year and seems poised to become a starter in the near future. Not bad given that his price tag is reasonable.

Johnnie Lee Higgins - A longshot who looks like a career backup, but may get a chance to shine next season.

Isaiah Stanback - Raw athlete with enough upside to warrant a look as a DEEP sleeper.

Chansi Stuckey - Probably nothing more than a WR3 or WR2 in the NFL, but could make some noise if he can get healthy.

Aundrae Allison - Explosive. Can't be much worse than Bobby Wade.

 
Good read.

I would just edit one thing.

Specify how high of a pick.

For example.

In one case I own late 1st RD picks (15-16) and both would not be enough for Bowe.

I would be interested to know your thoughts specifically in this years draft how high a pick you think it would take to get Bowe (or the other players you mentioned)

 
I agree with comfortably numb. I dont see 2nd rounders getting any of the guys mentioned other than Dwayne Jarrett at this point. The only way it gets done is draft fever. And it probably takes a top 3 pick to get Bowe in the end and only if you need a RB. A 4 or 5 and a good prospect and this one will be close also

And I dont own Bowe in either of my dynasty leagues.

 
Along with the shopping mall, are we to have a farmer's market where we can sell our wares?

If so, I'd like to get your opinions on Plaxico Burress. Dominant in the NFC Championship game, is now the time to sell high or should we expect a top 10 finish next year?

 
Anthiony Gonzalez is the best WR of the class when you consider Talent + Opportunity.

 
Chad Jackson??
Barring injury, I don't think he'll see the light of day. The Pats are loaded at WR. Even if Stallworth or Moss leave (everyone expects either of these guys to leave in the offseason), Gaffney will likely move up. Jackson may be good but he's in a very crowded group there.
 
comfortably numb said:
Good read.I would just edit one thing.Specify how high of a pick.For example.In one case I own late 1st RD picks (15-16) and both would not be enough for Bowe.I would be interested to know your thoughts specifically in this years draft how high a pick you think it would take to get Bowe (or the other players you mentioned)
This is a good point. I think it is very difficult to compare picks across leagues. For this article, I assumed a 12 team league. Also, differences in league scoring, roster size, and amount of teams will give a variance in value of picks. Also, I have found leagues that are identical in every way, but one league's culture values picks more than the other. So, this is written with more of a general feel.
 
comfortably numb said:
Good read.I would just edit one thing.Specify how high of a pick.For example.In one case I own late 1st RD picks (15-16) and both would not be enough for Bowe.I would be interested to know your thoughts specifically in this years draft how high a pick you think it would take to get Bowe (or the other players you mentioned)
This is a good point. I think it is very difficult to compare picks across leagues. For this article, I assumed a 12 team league. Also, differences in league scoring, roster size, and amount of teams will give a variance in value of picks. Also, I have found leagues that are identical in every way, but one league's culture values picks more than the other. So, this is written with more of a general feel.
Maybe you can do a range of picks like 5th-9th overall pick etc20-27 range etc. Thanks.
 
Isaiah Stanback - Raw athlete with enough upside to warrant a look as a DEEP sleeper.
Isaiah's parents live across the street from me and I was speaking to his father yesterday. He said the Cowboys want Isaiah to push Crayton for the #3 WR position this offseason. I can tell you this...the Cowboys' love Stanback. Good guy to keep on your radar.
 
Isaiah Stanback - Raw athlete with enough upside to warrant a look as a DEEP sleeper.
Isaiah's parents live across the street from me and I was speaking to his father yesterday. He said the Cowboys want Isaiah to push Crayton for the #3 WR position this offseason. I can tell you this...the Cowboys' love Stanback. Good guy to keep on your radar.
Regardless of what happens with Stanback, now is the perfect time to unload Crayton. If I owned him I would be looking to ship him off for a better talent like Chris Henry, Laurent Robinson, James Jones, Darrell Jackson, or Jacoby Jones. Crayton will never be an impact player.
 
saintfool said:
Chad Jackson??
Barring injury, I don't think he'll see the light of day. The Pats are loaded at WR. Even if Stallworth or Moss leave (everyone expects either of these guys to leave in the offseason), Gaffney will likely move up. Jackson may be good but he's in a very crowded group there.
If you want a potential consistent FF starter, Jackson is the guy to have here. Not Gaffney. Posts like these are good reason to go after the guy -- he is likely pretty cheap. For the raw skills/potential+Tom Brady+WRs ahead who could be ousted soon = buy low.
 
Thoughts on Ginn and Meachem? :thumbdown:
I think Meachem will replace Henderson in the line-up. People are sandbagging him because he never took the field during the regular season. Some think the coaching staff hates him and the like. WR coach spoke about how they could have brought him in during the season but they were in the middle of a playoff push. They praised his effort and attitude in what was a difficult situation. They have invested a R1 pick in the guy, so he'll be given a shot next year. Patten might give way to Meachem over the course of the season, even, if the kid shows something.
 
Thoughts on Ginn and Meachem? :X
I like both ... a lot. But, only if very cheap. It is not worth giving up a late first/early second for a receiver with that much risk (applies to both). Both have talent and could surprise. I just would not want a ton invested. Also, many owners might give up on these two too early.
 
Thoughts on Ginn and Meachem? :goodposting:
I like both ... a lot. But, only if very cheap. It is not worth giving up a late first/early second for a receiver with that much risk (applies to both). Both have talent and could surprise. I just would not want a ton invested. Also, many owners might give up on these two too early.
What about those leagues where they were drafted in the mid-late 1st? I'd have a hard time trading a WR who actually produced alright as a rookie, for a pick lower than I drafted him. (I don't own either, but that's what I would be thinking)
 
Thoughts on Ginn and Meachem? :goodposting:
I like both ... a lot. But, only if very cheap. It is not worth giving up a late first/early second for a receiver with that much risk (applies to both). Both have talent and could surprise. I just would not want a ton invested. Also, many owners might give up on these two too early.
What about those leagues where they were drafted in the mid-late 1st? I'd have a hard time trading a WR who actually produced alright as a rookie, for a pick lower than I drafted him. (I don't own either, but that's what I would be thinking)
Not where they were drafted in 2006, but what pick the owner might want now. I would not pay it. The point is that there is no reason for an owner to give the same pick (or proximity) that was initially used on one of these two. Not worth the risk.
 
Thoughts on Ginn and Meachem? :goodposting:
I like both ... a lot. But, only if very cheap. It is not worth giving up a late first/early second for a receiver with that much risk (applies to both). Both have talent and could surprise. I just would not want a ton invested. Also, many owners might give up on these two too early.
What about those leagues where they were drafted in the mid-late 1st? I'd have a hard time trading a WR who actually produced alright as a rookie, for a pick lower than I drafted him. (I don't own either, but that's what I would be thinking)
Not where they were drafted in 2006, but what pick the owner might want now. I would not pay it. The point is that there is no reason for an owner to give the same pick (or proximity) that was initially used on one of these two. Not worth the risk.
2007 and I just don't see how his value dropped much, if at all, this year.
 
Chad Jackson??
Barring injury, I don't think he'll see the light of day. The Pats are loaded at WR. Even if Stallworth or Moss leave (everyone expects either of these guys to leave in the offseason), Gaffney will likely move up. Jackson may be good but he's in a very crowded group there.
I'd drop Gaffney for Chad Jackson in a heartbeat just for the sheer upside. If I'm not mistaken, Moss has an opportunity to cash in a huge paycheck and I don't think he will pass it up. Stallworth (again, if I'm not mistaken) has a large raise due if the Patriots keep him, and given the dearth of talent in the WR free agent pool, I'd not be surprised to see another team scoop him up. That leaves Chad Jackson looking like a steal in today's FF bargain bin (located in the Dollar Store across the street from the mall), coming into his second year removed from an ACL injury, with all the opportunity in the world to absorb the offense.2006 - 19 targets, 13 catches, 3 TDs. I'll bite on that.
 
Chad Jackson??
Barring injury, I don't think he'll see the light of day. The Pats are loaded at WR. Even if Stallworth or Moss leave (everyone expects either of these guys to leave in the offseason), Gaffney will likely move up. Jackson may be good but he's in a very crowded group there.
I'd drop Gaffney for Chad Jackson in a heartbeat just for the sheer upside. If I'm not mistaken, Moss has an opportunity to cash in a huge paycheck and I don't think he will pass it up. Stallworth (again, if I'm not mistaken) has a large raise due if the Patriots keep him, and given the dearth of talent in the WR free agent pool, I'd not be surprised to see another team scoop him up. That leaves Chad Jackson looking like a steal in today's FF bargain bin (located in the Dollar Store across the street from the mall), coming into his second year removed from an ACL injury, with all the opportunity in the world to absorb the offense.2006 - 19 targets, 13 catches, 3 TDs. I'll bite on that.
If I were to make a prediction about the Pats WR corps, it would be that either Stallworth or Moss will return but not both. Gaffney is a FA, too, so he could walk. However, I don't understand why they wouldn't keep him. He's productive, entering his physical prime and likely inexpensive to keep. Jackson's under contract, young and with lots of potential. I have to think he's on the outside of the potential starters IF - not a small if, I know, especially with the Pats here - the scenario plays out like I am here.
 
Thoughts on Ginn and Meachem? :lmao:
I picked up Meachem as a throw-in on a trade of:Me: Lee EvansDennis Northcutt2008 Rd 5 rookie pickHim:Chris ChambersCedric BensonMeachem2008 Rd 2 rookie2009 Rd 2 rookieI definitely like the value there. He obviously has talent if he was taken in the first round. I'll definitely have him rostered for awhile.As an aside, I was very glad to be rid of Evans as a WR. I had huge hopes for him, and he definitely has talent, but his slow start helped contribute to my wreck of a season. (Slow starting Brees + Slow starting Evans + RB combo of LJ and Deuce = 5 early losses)
 
I'd drop Gaffney for Chad Jackson in a heartbeat just for the sheer upside. If I'm not mistaken, Moss has an opportunity to cash in a huge paycheck and I don't think he will pass it up. Stallworth (again, if I'm not mistaken) has a large raise due if the Patriots keep him, and given the dearth of talent in the WR free agent pool, I'd not be surprised to see another team scoop him up. That leaves Chad Jackson looking like a steal in today's FF bargain bin (located in the Dollar Store across the street from the mall), coming into his second year removed from an ACL injury, with all the opportunity in the world to absorb the offense.2006 - 19 targets, 13 catches, 3 TDs. I'll bite on that.
You left off that Jackson was taken in the very early 2nd round, was the 2nd WR off the board and that the Pats traded up to get him:
On draft day, the Patriots traded with the Green Bay Packers to move up 16 places (from their 52nd to the Packers' 36th), giving up a third-round pick (75th overall) acquired in a trade. Jackson signed a four-year deal on July 22nd.
If the Pats decide to let Moss go, or Randy won't play ball and exchange $$ for a chance at a 2nd ring it's possible that Jackson could be a huge surprise next year. I'm sure New England didn't plan on the injuries he's had, but it's hard to see where he could have done anything so far to sour them on his talent.
 
Is it possible to get a version of Dwayne Bowe from an outlet store with one arm longer than another so I can save money?
LOFLwannabe - I think you are too high on D. Jarrett and too low on A. GonzalezBowe :drool:
You could be right. I do think Gonzalez is one WR that is tough to quantify right now. He is a definite buy, if you can find an owner willing to part with him. Jarrett, I would not buy him at all, as stated above. I am always afraid of guys whose issues revolve around work ethic and learning the playbook.
 
I'd drop Gaffney for Chad Jackson in a heartbeat just for the sheer upside. If I'm not mistaken, Moss has an opportunity to cash in a huge paycheck and I don't think he will pass it up. Stallworth (again, if I'm not mistaken) has a large raise due if the Patriots keep him, and given the dearth of talent in the WR free agent pool, I'd not be surprised to see another team scoop him up. That leaves Chad Jackson looking like a steal in today's FF bargain bin (located in the Dollar Store across the street from the mall), coming into his second year removed from an ACL injury, with all the opportunity in the world to absorb the offense.2006 - 19 targets, 13 catches, 3 TDs. I'll bite on that.
You left off that Jackson was taken in the very early 2nd round, was the 2nd WR off the board and that the Pats traded up to get him:
On draft day, the Patriots traded with the Green Bay Packers to move up 16 places (from their 52nd to the Packers' 36th), giving up a third-round pick (75th overall) acquired in a trade. Jackson signed a four-year deal on July 22nd.
If the Pats decide to let Moss go, or Randy won't play ball and exchange $$ for a chance at a 2nd ring it's possible that Jackson could be a huge surprise next year. I'm sure New England didn't plan on the injuries he's had, but it's hard to see where he could have done anything so far to sour them on his talent.
How much can we take from a players ability, or lack there of, to return kicks (vision, moves, use of blockers) and their ability to play receiver. Jackson has looked awful in his limited use as a kick returner since coming off the PUP list. He seems to have no vision and does not set up his runs well. Now I know this is a different trade than receiver but it seems that a skilled player should be able to see holes and find cut back lanes. After all he is practicing these things during the week at practice. I own Jackson and am a Pats fan but I haven't seen much from him in the two years he has been with the team. I will likely hold on to him through training camp going into next season to see what shakes out but I can't say he has shown very much on the field.
 

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