TheGreatest
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Biggest upset in football history? Biggest upset in major sports history?
Discuss.
Discuss.
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If Giants beat Patriots in SB XLII.... (1 Viewer)
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Nah,It would be a huge upset, but it would not be the biggest. I wonder what the line will be?
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Not even close to the biggest in football history, yet alone sport history.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
For one, Jets over Colts in SB III would still be bigger.
GregR_2
Footballguy
Patriots looked very special the first half of the season and have just looked like one of the annual very good teams the 2nd half of the season and in the playoffs. I'm sure some would view it as a huge upset who set their opinion on them during the first part of the season and haven't taken the 2nd half into account. I don't personally think it would be close to the Jets-Colts upset though.
gregjcross
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Miracle on Ice down?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
There you go. That one's mine too.
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Statorama
Footballguy
Really? This would be a MUCH MUCH bigger upset than Jets/Colts or Patriots/Rams, which are the only two games I can see even giving a Giants Superbowl win this year a run for the money.A Giants Superbowl win would EASILY beat any of these:US Hockey Team defeating the RussiansBuster Douglas defeating Mike TysonBobby Fischer beating a computer...really, anything you can come up with.If the Giants somehow pull out a victory in this Superbowl, I would honestly be more shocked than if a flying saucer landed and all the aliens looked like Eli Manning.Giants beating this Patriot team would be like a little league team beating the Red Sox in a 50 game world series. It just won't happen.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
They're 13 pt dogs. There's been bigger upsets.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
#1 in my book. Hell, the Russians beat the crap out of the Rangers earlier that year and hadn't lost in nearly 20 years and had won eight of the last 9 Olympic Gold medals.
Statorama
Footballguy
That's where the line STARTS
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
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Wish I was at the party you were at so I could have had some of what you were eating/drinking/etc..Come down from the ledge.
timschochet
Footballguy
Biggest upset in Sports History was the United States Hockey team's win over the USSR at Lake Placid. It's the equivalent of LSU vs. the Patriots; very good college players against grown men who were world champions. The most unbelievable result ever.
Second biggest upset: Buster Douglas' knockout of Mike Tyson. Douglas was basically a club fighter, while Tyson was thought invincible.
Every NFL team has comparable players, so no matchup between any NFL team could ever rival these historic upsets.
Second biggest upset: Buster Douglas' knockout of Mike Tyson. Douglas was basically a club fighter, while Tyson was thought invincible.
Every NFL team has comparable players, so no matchup between any NFL team could ever rival these historic upsets.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Look, the Giants nearly beat them a month ago and let them off the hook. Lay off the hyperbole.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
No
JohnnyU
Footballguy
My 2nd choice was the Jets over the Colts and 3rd, Notre Dame snapping UCLA's 88 game winning streak in 1973.
Solidsteel Rats
Footballguy
nyg DON'T GIVE A #### IF THEY WIN OR LOSE..THEY ARE in the super bowl!!!
Gnat Berries
Footballguy
You're a moron. The Giants almost beat the Pats a month ago. How can a 3 point different in a rematch be considered a greater upset than the Miracle on Ice or any of those other ones?
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Avery
Footballguy
I bet they do.And I assume, and hope, that evryone who is in the business of predicting NFL game will too... just like Tampa, ust like the Cowboys and just like the Packers.I'm not going to crow, becuase Giants fans like they're team to be the underdogs, but the Patroits look very beatable. Not that the Giants will beat them, but the Pats look far more beatable at the end of the year than their record indicates.
Statorama
Footballguy
Well now that's not being very excellent.Bill Belichick didn't have two weeks to prepare for the Giants then. He does now. Beatdown is unavoidable.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
A Giants win over New England would be about as surprising as any other game when a 13 point NFL dog won.
Solidsteel Rats
Footballguy
I SEE THE TEARS OF GREEN BAY FANS AND CHARGERS FANS..get a life all knew who were best to go to super bowl...GO NYG..hahahha lmao off this is going to last years
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Statorama
Footballguy
That's where the line STARTS
timschochet
Footballguy
First of all, the biggest upsets have to be situations where there is a total disparity of talent, so no teams from the same league are ever going to be in the "biggest upset ever" category. That's why the Miracle on Ice and Buster Douglas are worthy of this title. A college football game might also make it in, again because of the disparity of talent; something like App. State's defeat of Michigan this year (though there are probably better examples.)
Second, for this same reason, Superbowl III will always be the biggest upset in NFL history, because people at the time were convinced there was a disparity of talent between the AFL and the NFL. In the case of New England vs. New York, no matter how lopsided you believe the result of this game will be, the fact is both teams select players from the same talent pool. I myself think it will be a very close game.
Second, for this same reason, Superbowl III will always be the biggest upset in NFL history, because people at the time were convinced there was a disparity of talent between the AFL and the NFL. In the case of New England vs. New York, no matter how lopsided you believe the result of this game will be, the fact is both teams select players from the same talent pool. I myself think it will be a very close game.
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cstu
Footballguy
Take it.
timschochet
Footballguy
Statorama
Footballguy
I see what you're saying, but I think there's an incredible difference in talent between the Patriots and the Giants. The Giants best player (Plaxico) would only be the 4th best receiver on the Patriots. That kind of talent disparity can't be ignored.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
If this dude actually thinks a Giants win would be > than the Jets over the Colts, he obviously doesn't know the history of Pro Football. The Jets were a 17 pt dog and the lowly AFL was considered bush league at the time. The Colts had just destroyed Cleveland 34-0 for the NFL Championship and was rightfully a huge favorite over the AFL Jets.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Don't forget Duke beating an undefeated UNLV team in '91... the year after the Rebels beat them by like 158 in the finals.
timschochet
Footballguy
??? Buress would be second only to Moss
Statorama
Footballguy
What? He would have to pay for the right to hold Welkers jock.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Went off at 19 in most places.If this dude actually thinks a Giants win would be > than the Jets over the Colts, he obviously doesn't know the history of Pro Football. The Jets were a 17 pt dog and the lowly AFL was considered bush league at the time. The Colts had just destroyed Cleveland 34-0 for the NFL Championship and was rightfully a huge favorite over the AFL Jets.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes, that's true for some places, but the official line was 17.Went off at 19 in most places.If this dude actually thinks a Giants win would be > than the Jets over the Colts, he obviously doesn't know the history of Pro Football. The Jets were a 17 pt dog and the lowly AFL was considered bush league at the time. The Colts had just destroyed Cleveland 34-0 for the NFL Championship and was rightfully a huge favorite over the AFL Jets.
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Statorama
Footballguy
Look, just because someone told you that was a bigger upset, don't believe the hype. I've been through both situations, seen both setups, and a Giants win would be leaps and bounds greater than Colts/Jets.If this dude actually thinks a Giants win would be > than the Jets over the Colts, he obviously doesn't know the history of Pro Football. The Jets were a 17 pt dog and the lowly AFL was considered bush league at the time. The Colts had just destroyed Cleveland 34-0 for the NFL Championship and was rightfully a huge favorite over the AFL Jets.
Bill Lust
Footballguy
It will only go down once everyone in NY throws some money in.
Statorama
Footballguy
Aww, come on, it's a little fun
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I lived Super Bowl 3, so don't go there with me sonnyLook, just because someone told you that was a bigger upset, don't believe the hype. I've been through both situations, seen both setups, and a Giants win would be leaps and bounds greater than Colts/Jets.If this dude actually thinks a Giants win would be > than the Jets over the Colts, he obviously doesn't know the history of Pro Football. The Jets were a 17 pt dog and the lowly AFL was considered bush league at the time. The Colts had just destroyed Cleveland 34-0 for the NFL Championship and was rightfully a huge favorite over the AFL Jets.
Statorama
Footballguy
I gotta think syndicate money pounds the Patriots hard at 13, and the public lapdogs will be all over the Patriots unbeaten story and pound the number no matter how high it goes.
Statorama
Footballguy
I didn't take into account that you were a Colts fan. Yes, to you it would be a bigger upset. I don't have a dog in this Giants/Patriots matchup, so I can see it very clearly.Giants do not have a prayer.I lived Super Bowl 3, so don't go there with me sonnyLook, just because someone told you that was a bigger upset, don't believe the hype. I've been through both situations, seen both setups, and a Giants win would be leaps and bounds greater than Colts/Jets.If this dude actually thinks a Giants win would be > than the Jets over the Colts, he obviously doesn't know the history of Pro Football. The Jets were a 17 pt dog and the lowly AFL was considered bush league at the time. The Colts had just destroyed Cleveland 34-0 for the NFL Championship and was rightfully a huge favorite over the AFL Jets.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
The Pats-Chargers line started at 15 1/2. Then it went down to 14. And they won by 9.They haven't covered many spreads over the 2nd half of the season.
The Ravens had them beat and screwed up. Philly, Indy, Giants all could have won. Pats could have been 12-4 without it being very surprising at all.
Some just seem to remember all the blowouts in the 1st half of the season, but they've been very beatable for a couple of months now. Do I think they'll win the Super Bowl? Yes. Would I be shocked if they didn't? Let's just say I'm not about to lay 13 points on them.
