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travdogg

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1. Adrian Peterson, durability is the only question as I'm sure the Vikings will give him even more chances to make plays.

2. Joseph Addai, talent+age+system=safest RB in all of FF.

3. Ladainian Tomlinson, he has to start showing signs of a decline sometime, but I can't justify him any lower.

4. Steven Jackson, I'd like to put him higher but I just don't trust the Rams enough.

5. Marshawn Lynch, this guy really impressed me, if Buffalo had a better offense he'd be up by Addai.

6.Willie Parker, he was leading the league in rushing when he got hurt, 2 TD's were a fluke I think.

7. Larry Johnson, he was getting going right when he got hurt, I attribute that more to the holdout than the offense.

8. Brian Westbrook, I'd put him higher but he is inconsistent in non-ppr leagues, and I think this season was his ceiling.

9. Marion Barber, don't buy that he's going to Miami, this is about the dropoff to the RB2 caliber guys.

10. Maurice Jones-Drew, if he ever got more carries he'd be higher, but I think the Jags like the arrangement they have.

11. Reggie Bush, I don't really like him but he has too much upside to be lower.

12. Clinton Portis, very consistent and seems to be over injuries however a new coaching staff could hurt alot.

13. Michael Turner, could go higher, my gut says he'll be a Falcon next year.

14. Frank Gore, Mike Martz= overrated RB's, Faulk is the only one to be successful and Gore is no Faulk.

15. Willis McGahee, good back but the Ravens look like a rebuilding team to me.

16. Ronnie Brown, top back when he was healthy though it was really just a 3-game stretch that helped his stats, can't put him higher until I see the Dolphins offense, Beck doesn't inspire confidence.

17. Rudi Johnson, its amazing what one bad year can do, as long as #85 stays Rudi should get lots of scoring chances.

18. Laurence Maroney, NE sure likes to use role players alot and that puts a major cap on Maroney's upside. Looks like a career RB2 to me ala Fred Taylor.

19. Brandon Jacobs, just too injury-prone, his age is negated by the fact he looks like he'll only be in the league for about 4-5 years.

20. Edgerrin James, dropoff #2, Edge should squeeze out one more top 10-ish year just due to workload+durability then all bets will be off.

21. Kevin Jones, underrated talent just needs to stay healthy.

22. DeAngelo Williams, would be higher but I just don't think John Fox likes him much.

23. Cadillac Williams, see Kevin Jones only with more of a RBBC role.Gruden loves him. Strike now while he's bargain basement cheap.

24. Ryan Grant, his 07' reminded me lots of Droughns in 04' when Favre leaves that whole team could be in trouble.

25. LenDale White, maybe the least impressive 1100 yard season I've ever seen, if Henry can stay clean and healthy the job is his. Me having White ahead of him tells you what I think the chances of that happening are.

 
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Nice list, I like that you took some chances, and thanks for posting. Responses...

-- What inconsistencies are you seeing in Westbrook? His yearly stats are almost identical to last year's, and he had exactly 3 games in in 2007 outside of the 10-20 point range, and two of those were over 35.

-- How can you complain about Westbrook's "inconsistency" when you've got Addai at #2? I'd do a little checking into the difference between Joe's weeks 1-9 and weeks 10-17.

-- Gore is too low. I argued against him in the AC earlier, but he and Vernon are **all** this team has right now. Martz may not be a friend to the RB, but he's not dumb enough to miss the only grenade in an arsenal of water balloons.

 
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I looked it up and you were right it wasn't Westbrook that was inconsistent, it was just that RB numbers were so down across the board that he became a top-3 caliber back with top-10 caliber numbers.

I guess a better explanation would be I think he has a lower ceiling than I'd like from a franchise back, plus he's like 28. I like Westbrook, but I think there is less upside than the guys above him.

Also, I chalk up Addai's average second half to the Colts being in extended playoff mode, in other words their main concern was to keep everyone healthy after Freeney went down, that way of doing things cost them when they got to the playoffs and I doubt they make that mistake again, plus addai is 25.

 
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it was just that RB numbers were so down across the board that he became a top-3 caliber back with top-10 caliber numbers.
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This may be the new trend in the NFL. You will see more teams going RBBC. Makes more sense for them from a financial and depth perspective.
 
travdogg said:
1. Adrian Peterson, durability is the only question as I'm sure the Vikings will give him even more chances to make plays.

2. Joseph Addai, talent+age+system=safest RB in all of FF.

I can't agree here. 4th would be better suited fior Addai

3. Ladainian Tomlinson, he has to start showing signs of a decline sometime, but I can't justify him any lower.

4. Steven Jackson, I'd like to put him higher but I just don't trust the Rams enough.

5. Marshawn Lynch, this guy really impressed me, if Buffalo had a better offense he'd be up by Addai.

6.Willie Parker, he was leading the league in rushing when he got hurt, 2 TD's were a fluke I think.

I love Willie but he's gonna get dropped for the 2td's. Pitt is looking like a pass 1st offense all of sudden.

7. Larry Johnson, he was getting going right when he got hurt, I attribute that more to the holdout than the offense.

8. Brian Westbrook, I'd put him higher but he is inconsistent in non-ppr leagues, and I think this season was his ceiling.

Definately too low. Should be 3rd only behind AP, LT. Every argument made for Addai should be for Westbrook.

9. Marion Barber, don't buy that he's going to Miami, this is about the dropoff to the RB2 caliber guys.

10. Maurice Jones-Drew, if he ever got more carries he'd be higher, but I think the Jags like the arrangement they have.

11. Reggie Bush, I don't really like him but he has too much upside to be lower.

I agree, don't like him much and he appears like he can't be an everydown back. PPR leagues great. Non PPR, should be about 15.

12. Clinton Portis, very consistent and seems to be over injuries however a new coaching staff could hurt alot.

I would take Portis over LJ, Willie & Barber. This guy is too low.

13. Michael Turner, could go higher, my gut says he'll be a Falcon next year.

To me, Turner is the biggest unknown. This guy has proven himself behind a great line. He can't be a top 20 without a home. To put him above any top 20 starting RB is a mistake.

14. Frank Gore, Mike Martz= overrated RB's, Faulk is the only one to be successful and Gore is no Faulk.

I hope my new Dynasty league follows your advice. Gore in the late 2nd or early 3rd would be awesome.

15. Willis McGahee, good back but the Ravens look like a rebuilding team to me.

16. Ronnie Brown, top back when he was healthy though it was really just a 3-game stretch that helped his stats, can't put him higher until I see the Dolphins offense, Beck doesn't inspire confidence.

17. Rudi Johnson, its amazing what one bad year can do, as long as #85 stays Rudi should get lots of scoring chances.

Can't take him before Grant or Maroney after an awful 2007 & Watson still there

18. Laurence Maroney, NE sure likes to use role players alot and that puts a major cap on Maroney's upside. Looks like a career RB2 to me ala Fred Taylor.

19. Brandon Jacobs, just too injury-prone, his age is negated by the fact he looks like he'll only be in the league for about 4-5 years.

20. Edgerrin James, dropoff #2, Edge should squeeze out one more top 10-ish year just due to workload+durability then all bets will be off.

The disappearing man. Can't take him before Grant

21. Kevin Jones, underrated talent just needs to stay healthy.

22. DeAngelo Williams, would be higher but I just don't think John Fox likes him much.

RBBC forever

23. Cadillac Williams, see Kevin Jones only with more of a RBBC role.Gruden loves him. Strike now while he's bargain basement cheap.

I hope your right with this one. I picked him up as a FA for $1

24. Ryan Grant, his 07' reminded me lots of Droughns in 04' when Favre leaves that whole team could be in trouble.

Mark my words. Top 15 back for the next 2 years.

25. LenDale White, maybe the least impressive 1100 yard season I've ever seen, if Henry can stay clean and healthy the job is his. Me having White ahead of him tells you what I think the chances of that happening are.
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True, but there were also an inordinate amount of injuries to RB's who were producing very well(Peterson, Jackson, Brown, Jacobs, Lynch come to mind)

If Caddy is out there for nothing, I see no reason not to at least give him a shot.

One guy in a league got him for Matt Jones, I'd rather have an empty roster spot than Matt Jones! I'd bet it wouldn't take more in most leagues.

 
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Some of the disagreements i have with your list have already been voiced by others. FWIW I'll give u my take tho:

travdogg said:
1. Adrian Peterson, durability is the only question as I'm sure the Vikings will give him even more chances to make plays.

2. Joseph Addai, talent+age+system=safest RB in all of FF. I've got him 5th, would consider him no higher than 4th

3. Ladainian Tomlinson, he has to start showing signs of a decline sometime, but I can't justify him any lower.

4. Steven Jackson, I'd like to put him higher but I just don't trust the Rams enough.

5. Marshawn Lynch, this guy really impressed me, if Buffalo had a better offense he'd be up by Addai. 7th is more realistic , IMO

6.Willie Parker, he was leading the league in rushing when he got hurt, 2 TD's were a fluke I think. I have him at 13th and I actually like FWP

7. Larry Johnson, he was getting going right when he got hurt, I attribute that more to the holdout than the offense. realistically i see him no higher than 11

8. Brian Westbrook, I'd put him higher but he is inconsistent in non-ppr leagues, and I think this season was his ceiling. As mentioned by others, he must be considered in the top 4

9. Marion Barber, don't buy that he's going to Miami, this is about the dropoff to the RB2 caliber guys. We've got him rated about the same

10. Maurice Jones-Drew, if he ever got more carries he'd be higher, but I think the Jags like the arrangement they have. No argument

11. Reggie Bush, I don't really like him but he has too much upside to be lower. again we agree

12. Clinton Portis, very consistent and seems to be over injuries however a new coaching staff could hurt alot. Ditto

13. Michael Turner, could go higher, my gut says he'll be a Falcon next year. He's 21 on my list excluding rookies. As stated by others, way too much uncertainty for a higher ranking

14. Frank Gore, Mike Martz= overrated RB's, Faulk is the only one to be successful and Gore is no Faulk. I've probably over-rated him at #5, but his talent puts him no lower than #8. I look for a rebound next year

15. Willis McGahee, good back but the Ravens look like a rebuilding team to me. can't quibble with your ranking

16. Ronnie Brown, top back when he was healthy though it was really just a 3-game stretch that helped his stats, can't put him higher until I see the Dolphins offense, Beck doesn't inspire confidence. I've got less confdence than you: he's 20 on mine

17. Rudi Johnson, its amazing what one bad year can do, as long as #85 stays Rudi should get lots of scoring chances. I see no rebound here - he's around #40 with me

18. Laurence Maroney, NE sure likes to use role players alot and that puts a major cap on Maroney's upside. Looks like a career RB2 to me ala Fred Taylor. I agree with you completely here

19. Brandon Jacobs, just too injury-prone, his age is negated by the fact he looks like he'll only be in the league for about 4-5 years. I rated him much lower at #35. IMO he's already the #2 back at NYG

20. Edgerrin James, dropoff #2, Edge should squeeze out one more top 10-ish year just due to workload+durability then all bets will be off. James ranks about 40th on my list................45th if you add in the rookies. Put a fork in him for fantasy purposes

21. Kevin Jones, underrated talent just needs to stay healthy. I don't like him at all; he has to prove to me he can play at 100% for most of a season before I rank him much higher than #30.

22. DeAngelo Williams, would be higher but I just don't think John Fox likes him much. You are about right, but rank at least 3 rookies in front of him too

23. Cadillac Williams, see Kevin Jones only with more of a RBBC role.Gruden loves him. Strike now while he's bargain basement cheap. This is your biggest reach. IMO he's a late round bottom of the heap; I'd rate M Bush as a much better gamble - another one to stick a fork into, because he's done

24. Ryan Grant, his 07' reminded me lots of Droughns in 04' when Favre leaves that whole team could be in trouble. He's cvery close to top 15 in my book; The kid runs with power, and vision

25. LenDale White, maybe the least impressive 1100 yard season I've ever seen, if Henry can stay clean and healthy the job is his. Me having White ahead of him tells you what I think the chances of that happening are. Just about 20th is good for me
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Just goes to show that some see the glass half empty, others see it half full.

 
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24. Ryan Grant, his 07' reminded me lots of Droughns in 04'
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Is this a joke ?Grant's running style is nothing close to Droughns.Dude was the #2 ranked RB in the NFL after he took over the starting job.He runs downhill, low and strong. I don't think the same can be said about RD.
 
I was comparing Grant and Droughns seasons, not as players. They don't run similar at all.

But like Droughns, Grant basically started for half a year, and has a cheap contract and the team isn't that committed to him.

If Grant were to sign a major extension, I'd move him into McGahee range.

 
Not a bad list at all. Your grammar and sentence structure will probably lend less credibility to your rankings and your post, but I like them. :yes:

 
Question: How many years do you project out (or care much about) in dynasty rankings?

Personally, I go out to 4 years and do not worry about whether they will play for me more than that.

 
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23. Cadillac Williams, see Kevin Jones only with more of a RBBC role.Gruden loves him. Strike now while he's bargain basement cheap.
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:tinfoilhat: Let me guess, travdogg is a Caddy owner?Cadillac Williams isn't worth a gatorade flavor to be named later. There is a very real chance he doesn't suit up for a single game in 2008. And just how much talent and explosiveness will be left when he does return? On top of that, we're talking about a RB who had trouble maintaining startable value even when he was perfectly healthy. . . .and before Earnest Graham performed Caddy's job much better than Caddy did. Cadillac has been a detriment to his owners for almost three years now, and there's no reason to believe that won't continue to be the case. There's very little chance he'll return as the full-time RB by 2009, and even less chance that he'll ever help your team on a weekly basis considering he couldn't do that before his devastating knee injury.Jamal Lewis, on the other hand. . . .I understand the skepticism based on his 2005-06 production, but he was a different runner this season and looks finally rejuvenated to something close to his old self. Anybody who saw him play at least a couple of times this year could see the power returning. He might not be an ideal dynasty league RB, but he has a very good chance to help your team next year and possibly the year after. I think he's worth a hell of a lot more than a guy like Cadillac Williams. . . .or even Kevin Jones.
 
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Fear & Loathing said:
travdogg said:
23. Cadillac Williams, see Kevin Jones only with more of a RBBC role.Gruden loves him. Strike now while he's bargain basement cheap.
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:thumbdown: Cadillac Williams isn't worth a gatorade flavor to be named later. There is a very real chance he doesn't suit up for a single game in 2008. And just how much talent and explosiveness will be left when he does return? On top of that, we're talking about a RB who had trouble maintaining startable value even when he was perfectly healthy. . . .and before Earnest Graham performed Caddy's job much better than Caddy did.
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On a per start basis Graham was no better than Caddy this year and Caddy did his before the o-line started coming together. Williams had 3 TD's in 3 starts at 3.9 YPC Graham had 10 TD's in 11 starts at 4.0 YPCThis notion that Graham is better than Caddy is illogical to me. Graham is healthier right now that is all. RBBC when Caddy gets back IMO with Caddy being the lead back.
 
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travdogg said:
1. Adrian Peterson, durability is the only question as I'm sure the Vikings will give him even more chances to make plays.

Durability isn't the only issue. RBBC and no passing attack plays a heavy role in this. He doesn't need a great QB, just....SOMEONE. I like Sidney Rice's upside at WR, but the rest of the WR corps...and T-Jax? UGH. Stack the box, cheat your safeties, and you end up with less yards than carries (think SF)

2. Joseph Addai, talent+age+system=safest RB in all of FF.

agreed thoroughly, emphasis on "safest"

3. Ladainian Tomlinson, he has to start showing signs of a decline sometime, but I can't justify him any lower.

I'm not real confident that he'll come back from his knee injury. He's closing in on the dreaded 3rd decade and he has had > 390 touches every year in the NFL. I'll reserve judgement until I hear a bit more about his progress.

4. Steven Jackson, I'd like to put him higher but I just don't trust the Rams enough.

I'm seeing a repeat of 2006. His line and his QB will be healthy again. I have him #1.

5. Marshawn Lynch, this guy really impressed me, if Buffalo had a better offense he'd be up by Addai.

this is a solid placement for him for dynasty. 2008 will be a darn good year, but I think that as Buffalo's offense improves, Lynch will become a top stud

6.Willie Parker, he was leading the league in rushing when he got hurt, 2 TD's were a fluke I think.

I don't think the 2 TDs was, actually. The line is bad, and the new O-coord likes Ben in the red zone. I see him repeating 2007. Remember, the Steelers HATE individual efforts, because they require paychecks, and they're already going to pay Ben. Too many TDs = too big of a contract renegotiation

7. Larry Johnson, he was getting going right when he got hurt, I attribute that more to the holdout than the offense.

RB2 at best. 05/06 LJ no longer exists.

8. Brian Westbrook, I'd put him higher but he is inconsistent in non-ppr leagues, and I think this season was his ceiling.

disagree thoroughly. I have him #1/#2 along with SJax. He isn't inconsistent. Actually, he's more consistent than just about anybody, as far as 10+ ppg.

9. Marion Barber, don't buy that he's going to Miami, this is about the dropoff to the RB2 caliber guys.

#######' Dallas doesn't realize that MBIII is a potential red zone BEAST. This guy has no business under 15 TDs in any season. He should get 15-20 carries every darn game, but Jerry #######' Jones won't let it happen. He's another RB2, due to no fault of his own.

10. Maurice Jones-Drew, if he ever got more carries he'd be higher, but I think the Jags like the arrangement they have.

2008 isn't his year, but 2009 definitely will be.

11. Reggie Bush, I don't really like him but he has too much upside to be lower.

in PPR leagues, sure. But #11 in a standard scoring league? No chance.

12. Clinton Portis, very consistent and seems to be over injuries however a new coaching staff could hurt alot.

I have him way higher. He catches out of the backfield and runs solid, he scores, and he is going to be the focal point of an offense that isn't real confident in their QB situation. As such, Portis will be THE man. He's only 26. 06 was a bit worrisome, but he is still a franchise back. Top 10, solid RB1 IMHO

13. Michael Turner, could go higher, my gut says he'll be a Falcon next year.

Depends on where he goes. He could be a sicko in the right system, but he is still unproven. I agree with you however that he will break out.

14. Frank Gore, Mike Martz= overrated RB's, Faulk is the only one to be successful and Gore is no Faulk.

I have Gore top 10. I think he's going to be big in 08. Not 06-calibre (that was a "fluke"), but he can catch out of the backfield and seeing as how the 49ers don't have too much else, he will be a big producer.

15. Willis McGahee, good back but the Ravens look like a rebuilding team to me.

I agree with you, but Cam Cameron will try to pull a Ronnie Brown with McGahee. I have him top 10 as well.

16. Ronnie Brown, top back when he was healthy though it was really just a 3-game stretch that helped his stats, can't put him higher until I see the Dolphins offense, Beck doesn't inspire confidence. agreed. 3 crazy games does not a fantasy career make, and his injury was pretty bad (like the Fins)

17. Rudi Johnson, its amazing what one bad year can do, as long as #85 stays Rudi should get lots of scoring chances.I have Rudi ranked about 312th in RBs. Good luck with this one.

18. Laurence Maroney, NE sure likes to use role players alot and that puts a major cap on Maroney's upside. Looks like a career RB2 to me ala Fred Taylor. agreed, see comments regarding MBIII, although I see Maroney being top RB2 calibre.

19. Brandon Jacobs, just too injury-prone, his age is negated by the fact he looks like he'll only be in the league for about 4-5 years.+ Ahmad Bradshaw is quicker and catches out of the backfield. He is a stud when he plays, but you can't run like that and last. Ask Earl Campbell

20. Edgerrin James, dropoff #2, Edge should squeeze out one more top 10-ish year just due to workload+durability then all bets will be off.

21. Kevin Jones, underrated talent just needs to stay healthy.

22. DeAngelo Williams, would be higher but I just don't think John Fox likes him much.

23. Cadillac Williams, see Kevin Jones only with more of a RBBC role.Gruden loves him. Strike now while he's bargain basement cheap.Strike now? Graham is far better. He can actually catch the ball. Graham had as many TDs last season in his limited duties as Caddy has produced his entire career. I do agree though, Williams ranks lower than Rudi. It's not 2005 anymore! :thumbup:

24. Ryan Grant, his 07' reminded me lots of Droughns in 04' when Favre leaves that whole team could be in trouble.

wow. Ryan Grant was awesome for the Packers, and the Pack uses RBs when they get them. Young guy, tons of speed, cutback runner produces a lot of long TDs. 1500 yards, 12-15 TDs next season. Excellent RB1

25. LenDale White, maybe the least impressive 1100 yard season I've ever seen, if Henry can stay clean and healthy the job is his. Me having White ahead of him tells you what I think the chances of that happening are. Lendale is a RB3. Way too inconsistent. He needs to lay off the bacon and hit the weight room and the track in the offseason. He has the potential to be a great red zone pig, but he seems to be just a pig.
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Cadillac Williams isn't worth a gatorade flavor to be named later.
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ha. well stated. :goodposting:
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On a per start basis Graham was no better than Caddy this year and Caddy did his before the o-line started coming together.

Williams had 3 TD's in 3 starts at 3.9 YPC

Graham had 10 TD's in 11 starts at 4.0 YPC

This notion that Graham is better than Caddy is illogical to me. Graham is healthier right now that is all. RBBC when Caddy gets back IMO with Caddy being the lead back.
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You might be right, but that would speak volumes about Gruden and his lack of logic. As I said earlier, this ain't 2005 anymore. He played full duty in 200 and produced:5 games < 5 points

6 games between 5-10 points

4 games > 10 points.

At his best, Caddy is barely RB3 calibre. 12 games > 10 points in his career. Graham produced 9 of those last season alone. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Jamal Lewis has an excellent situation in Cleveland right now. Anderson has enough weapons to keep the defense from stacking 8, and Cleveland's O-line is solid. Lewis weathered his post-370 letdown after 2003 and produced quite a bit of TDs. Cleveland's offense is good enough to get him close to the goal line. He fits well with Cleveland, and he is the #1 back, no RBBC. As long as they don't pound him with 30+ carries per game, he'll be fine, and Cleveland's defense is too abysmal to expect that type of use.

Any thoughts on Selvin Young becoming "the man" in Denver? I hate Shanahan. He drives me nuts. I had to handcuff 3 damn RBs last season because I made the mistake of drafting Travis Henry. *mutter* Young and Hall came through for me on waivers though.

 
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Fear & Loathing said:
travdogg said:
23. Cadillac Williams, see Kevin Jones only with more of a RBBC role.Gruden loves him. Strike now while he's bargain basement cheap.
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:confused: Cadillac Williams isn't worth a gatorade flavor to be named later. There is a very real chance he doesn't suit up for a single game in 2008. And just how much talent and explosiveness will be left when he does return? On top of that, we're talking about a RB who had trouble maintaining startable value even when he was perfectly healthy. . . .and before Earnest Graham performed Caddy's job much better than Caddy did.
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On a per start basis Graham was no better than Caddy this year and Caddy did his before the o-line started coming together. Williams had 3 TD's in 3 starts at 3.9 YPC Graham had 10 TD's in 11 starts at 4.0 YPCThis notion that Graham is better than Caddy is illogical to me. Graham is healthier right now that is all. RBBC when Caddy gets back IMO with Caddy being the lead back.
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That's some bizarre evidence right there.In 4 games, Caddy averaged 56 total yards per game. If we take out the game where he got injured, Caddy averaged 61 total yards per game.In 15 games, Graham averaged 81.5 total yards per game. If we take out the games where Graham mostly sat the pine, he averaged 100 total yards per game.Should we go back to Caddy's '06 season, too? He was even worse then (possibly the most detrimental player in fantasy football), and we all know he wasn't getting in the end zone or catching passes. Where does all of the Caddy love come from? That first impressive month in the NFL 3 years ago? I understand hoping he could have recaptured the magic, but now that his knee is a wreck his dynasty value is just in the dumpster. He's unlikely to contribute until 2009, and even then he's unlikely to have a full-time. Even if we put probability aside for hypothetical reasons, he's unlikely to do anything but hurt your fantasy team even if he does stumble into a late career Robert Edwards-type role for a season.
 
I really think the o-line deserves most of the credit for how Graham played. They really came on about week 8. Early in the year Caddy(as well as Graham and Pittman) had to break multiple tackles just to gain positive yardage, where as late in the year Graham and co. weren't getting hit until they were 2-3 yards past the line of scrimmage.

Tampa had 1 rookie and 3 2nd year players on the o-line this year so the line coming together later in the year wasn't unexpected, but I just don't think Graham should get that much credit and had Caddy stayed healthy I believe he would have equaled or exceeded Graham's numbers.

I had no idea I was the highest person on Caddy. I thought the Lynch ranking would be the one people might take exception with. :thumbup:

 
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I had no idea I was the highest person on Caddy. I thought the Lynch ranking would be the one people might take exception with. :sadbanana:
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why? Lynch looks like he's going to be a complete stud. Caddy looked great the first 3 games of his NFL career, but aside from that, he has looked mostly pedestrian, injury issues aside.
 
kethnaab said:
travdogg said:
I had no idea I was the highest person on Caddy. I thought the Lynch ranking would be the one people might take exception with. :lmao:
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why? Lynch looks like he's going to be a complete stud. Caddy looked great the first 3 games of his NFL career, but aside from that, he has looked mostly pedestrian, injury issues aside.
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Didn't think many people would be on board with Lynch in the top-5 is all, I feel kinda vindicated to know I'm not the only one who sees it.Back to Caddy, he finished his rookie year almost as well as he started it. He had 3 100-yard games in his last six and scored 5 times over that stretch. Not top-5 numbers but above average and far from terrible.
 
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with signs pointing towards Deshaun Foster getting cut or asked to take a big paycut, does everyone think the Panthers Draft/Sign another RB to keep a RBBC with Deangelo?

 
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with signs pointing towards Deshaun Foster getting cut or asked to take a big paycut, does everyone think the Panthers Draft/Sign another RB to keep a RBBC with Deangelo?
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If Foster is let go, there is no doubt the Panthers bring in another RB. The only question is what caliber RB they bring in. Williams played well at the end of the season when given a bigger workload, so my bet is he gets 60% or more of the touches.
 
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Didn't think many people would be on board with Lynch in the top-5 is all, I feel kinda vindicated to know I'm not the only one who sees it.
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for 2008? No. For a dynasty ranking? Oh hell yes, he has turbo stud written all over him and he's a kid. Tons of upside, definitely get him now.
Back to Caddy, he finished his rookie year almost as well as he started it. He had 3 100-yard games in his last six and scored 5 times over that stretch. Not top-5 numbers but above average and far from terrible.
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he sandwiched those 100-yard games around 4 consecutive 20-yard/0 TD efforts.In 06, he was even worse. 4 games of 10-15 points, 12 games in single digits.I'm sorry man, I just don't see it. Graham is only 27 and 2007 was his first substantial workload at all. He has quite a bit of mileage left in him. You seem to forget just how well Graham did.Week 7 was his breakout week when he definitely had "the job" rather than Pittmanscoring = 1:10, 6:1 (+PPR)Week 7 - 19.1 points (32.1)Week 8 - 7.4 points (8.4)Week 9 - 19.7 points (21.7)Week 10 - byeWeek 11 - 16.8 points (17.8)Week 12 - 14.4 points (16.4)Week 13 - 20.3 points (27.3)Week 14 - 22.7 points (28.7)Week 15 - 17.9 points (22.9)Average = 17.3 ppgThat is a pretty damn solid performance over those 8 games.heck, compare it to Caddy's BEST 8 games of his career:Caddy05 - 20.805 - 18.805 - 15.805 - 18.905 - 23.605 - 23.006 - 15.607 - 18.1Average = 19.3So, in Caddy's 8 best games of his CAREER, he was about 2 ppg better than Graham in the last half of the 07 seasonNow, for a more realistic comparison, let's look at Caddy's best 8 games OTHER than his rookie season, which he won't be repeating anytime soonyear/week06/3 - 12.406/5 - 12.506/6 - 10.406/7 - 9.306/11 - 15.606/12 - 7.807/2 - 18.107/3 - 10.4So since his rookie season, he has had exactly 1 game that was as high as Graham's AVERAGE over his last 8 games of 07.Sorry man. No comparison here.
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If Foster is let go, there is no doubt the Panthers bring in another RB. The only question is what caliber RB they bring in. Williams played well at the end of the season when given a bigger workload, so my bet is he gets 60% or more of the touches.
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DAW has some potential. It'll be interesting to see if the Panthers work him into the passing game more with Delhomme back during 08. I have DAW as a solid RB3/low RB2 starting in 08.
 
cstu said:
Ron_Mexico said:
travdogg said:
24. Ryan Grant, his 07' reminded me lots of Droughns in 04'
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Is this a joke ?Grant's running style is nothing close to Droughns.Dude was the #2 ranked RB in the NFL after he took over the starting job.He runs downhill, low and strong. I don't think the same can be said about RD.
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Barlow, Jr.
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YES!! Maybe that's a more appropriate comparison for Grant. I just don't like him and if I had him I would certainly trade him this offseason especially if you can get someone like Parker or Bush.
 
ninerfanatic492000 said:
with signs pointing towards Deshaun Foster getting cut or asked to take a big paycut, does everyone think the Panthers Draft/Sign another RB to keep a RBBC with Deangelo?
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I'd be surprised if they cut Foster, a pay cut seems like the best (and most likely) option for both parties.
 
Based on a lot of the feedback(thanks), I have a few questions.

1. Why is everyone so low on Rudi? Hasn't he earned an injury pass he's been the picture of consistency until this past year and he's not that old.

2. DeAngelo Williams, why are people high enough on him to think he could be a low end #2? Will Delhomme coming back make it easier to run for Carolina?

3. Why is everyone so high on Gore? They have no o-line a below average QB and a new OC who wants to pass the ball more than they already do. I think Gore is more likely to not make the top-25 RB's than he is to make the top-5. What am I missing?

 
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ninerfanatic492000 said:
with signs pointing towards Deshaun Foster getting cut or asked to take a big paycut, does everyone think the Panthers Draft/Sign another RB to keep a RBBC with Deangelo?
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I'd be surprised if they cut Foster, a pay cut seems like the best (and most likely) option for both parties.
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I am not sure but isn't Foster only making around 3.5 million per year? I though he signed a contract that was like a series of three one year contracts or something like that. Kind of like TO's. I might be wrong but if not I dont see why they would cut him or ask him to take a pay cut.
 
travdogg said:
Based on a lot of the feedback(thanks), I have a few questions.1. Why is everyone so low on Rudi? Hasn't he earned an injury pass he's been the picture of consistency until this past year and he's not that old.2. DeAngelo Williams, why are people high enough on him to think he could be a low end #2? Will Delhomme coming back make it easier to run for Carolina?3. Why is everyone so high on Gore? They have no o-line a below average QB and a new OC who wants to pass the ball more than they already do. I think Gore is more likely to not make the top-25 RB's than he is to make the top-5. What am I missing?
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1. If you want to give Rudi an injury pass, that's fine. But that's far from his biggest problem. He has a very realistic chance to get cut by the Bengals this off-season. Even if he stays around, the Bengals are scouting free agent RBs and looking at them in the draft. Kenny Watson severely outplayed him last season, and Kenny Irons will be knocking on the door at some point in the 2008 season. Throw in his YPC of less than 3.0 last season [!] combined with his age of 29, and you're looking at a guy with way too many question marks who could be drained of every drop of value at any point going forward....starting tomorrow.2. I expect Williams to become the starter in '08, but it's far from a sure thing with John Fox calling the shots. I don't think I'm as high on him as many others are, and I think redzone carries will be a legitimate issue with him going forward. DeAngelo is not a good short yardage back from what I've seen. My gut says the Panthers will always want to pair him with another back.3. Because Gore is easily one of the most talented RBs in the NFL, his job security is unquestioned, he's in on every down and at the goal-line in addition to being very heavily involved in the passing game. His overall power/speed/pass catching package conjures up an image of Ahman Green in his prime. Offensive lines can come together in a hurry (see '07 Dolphins for proof), and Marshall Faulk enjoyed some of the best fantasy seasons of all-time in Mike Martz' offense. That offense ran significantly better at the end of the year with Shaun Hill than it did with an injured and historically ineffective Alex Smith.
 
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Based on a lot of the feedback(thanks), I have a few questions.

1. Why is everyone so low on Rudi? Hasn't he earned an injury pass he's been the picture of consistency until this past year and he's not that old.

2. DeAngelo Williams, why are people high enough on him to think he could be a low end #2? Will Delhomme coming back make it easier to run for Carolina?

3. Why is everyone so high on Gore? They have no o-line a below average QB and a new OC who wants to pass the ball more than they already do. I think Gore is more likely to not make the top-25 RB's than he is to make the top-5. What am I missing?
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Because when you watch some guys you can just tell that they can flat-out play football. He is one of them.While Ernie Graham isn't that level of talent, he is still FAR better than the lack of credit you are giving him. Like Gore but unlike a lot of others, Graham is always fighting for that extra yard or two after being tackled, which is something I rate very highly.

 
Fear & Loathing said:
travdogg said:
Based on a lot of the feedback(thanks), I have a few questions.1. Why is everyone so low on Rudi? Hasn't he earned an injury pass he's been the picture of consistency until this past year and he's not that old.2. DeAngelo Williams, why are people high enough on him to think he could be a low end #2? Will Delhomme coming back make it easier to run for Carolina?3. Why is everyone so high on Gore? They have no o-line a below average QB and a new OC who wants to pass the ball more than they already do. I think Gore is more likely to not make the top-25 RB's than he is to make the top-5. What am I missing?
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1. If you want to give Rudi an injury pass, that's fine. But that's far from his biggest problem. He has a very realistic chance to get cut by the Bengals this off-season. Even if he stays around, the Bengals are scouting free agent RBs and looking at them in the draft. Kenny Watson severely outplayed him last season, and Kenny Irons will be knocking on the door at some point in the 2008 season. Throw in his YPC of less than 3.0 last season [!] combined with his age of 29, and you're looking at a guy with way too many question marks who could be drained of every drop of value at any point going forward....starting tomorrow.2. I expect Williams to become the starter in '08, but it's far from a sure thing with John Fox calling the shots. I don't think I'm as high on him as many others are, and I think redzone carries will be a legitimate issue with him going forward. DeAngelo is not a good short yardage back from what I've seen. My gut says the Panthers will always want to pair him with another back.3. Because Gore is easily one of the most talented RBs in the NFL, his job security is unquestioned, he's in on every down and at the goal-line in addition to being very heavily involved in the passing game. His overall power/speed/pass catching package conjures up an image of Ahman Green in his prime. Offensive lines can come together in a hurry (see '07 Dolphins for proof), and Marshall Faulk enjoyed some of the best fantasy seasons of all-time in Mike Martz' offense. That offense ran significantly better at the end of the year with Shaun Hill than it did with an injured and historically ineffective Alex Smith.
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You don't think Rudi's injury was a major reason why his ypc was so low? Irons is an option but he's proved nothing so far and Watson can't be counted on as more than a 3rd down back. I agree he has downside but couldn't he bounceback to 1200-11 or so.From what I saw of DeAngelo he was better in short yardage than Foster(not that Foster is good) I was thinking they were more worried about him wearing down if he had to many carries.As for Gore, he's talented(though not even remotely close to Faulk) but isn't every argument for Gore one that you could make for LJ or McGahee?
 
travdogg said:
Fear & Loathing said:
1. If you want to give Rudi an injury pass, that's fine. But that's far from his biggest problem. He has a very realistic chance to get cut by the Bengals this off-season. Even if he stays around, the Bengals are scouting free agent RBs and looking at them in the draft. Kenny Watson severely outplayed him last season, and Kenny Irons will be knocking on the door at some point in the 2008 season. Throw in his YPC of less than 3.0 last season [!] combined with his age of 29, and you're looking at a guy with way too many question marks who could be drained of every drop of value at any point going forward....starting tomorrow.

2. I expect Williams to become the starter in '08, but it's far from a sure thing with John Fox calling the shots. I don't think I'm as high on him as many others are, and I think redzone carries will be a legitimate issue with him going forward. DeAngelo is not a good short yardage back from what I've seen. My gut says the Panthers will always want to pair him with another back.

3. Because Gore is easily one of the most talented RBs in the NFL, his job security is unquestioned, he's in on every down and at the goal-line in addition to being very heavily involved in the passing game. His overall power/speed/pass catching package conjures up an image of Ahman Green in his prime. Offensive lines can come together in a hurry (see '07 Dolphins for proof), and Marshall Faulk enjoyed some of the best fantasy seasons of all-time in Mike Martz' offense. That offense ran significantly better at the end of the year with Shaun Hill than it did with an injured and historically ineffective Alex Smith.
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You don't think Rudi's injury was a major reason why his ypc was so low? Irons is an option but he's proved nothing so far and Watson can't be counted on as more than a 3rd down back. I agree he has downside but couldn't he bounceback to 1200-11 or so.From what I saw of DeAngelo he was better in short yardage than Foster(not that Foster is good) I was thinking they were more worried about him wearing down if he had to many carries.

As for Gore, he's talented(though not even remotely close to Faulk) but isn't every argument for Gore one that you could make for LJ or McGahee?
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1. Look, I don't blame you for sticking behind a guy who just came off a down year due to injury. But you're completely ignoring the fact that he could be finished as a starting RB. From Rotoworld:
12/26/07: The Cincinnati Enquirer speculates that Rudi Johnson could be cut by the Bengals this offseason. Johnson has been outperformed by Kenny Watson all season, and with Kenny Irons, Chris Perry and DeDe Dorsey all in the picture, the Bengals might decide to cut Rudi and his $3.2 million salary, saving $1.4 against the cap next season. Rudi has missed four games with a hamstring injury this year.

1/25/08: Bengals offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski specified the running game as an area in need of improvement. Bengals scouts and coaches are looking for help at the Senior Bowl, but they've also compiled a list of veteran free agent running backs. With so many question marks in the backfield, the Bengals may seek Rudi Johnson insurance in free agency.
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The value just isn't there. Of course he could come back and put up 1200-11 or so. But until he does, he's without much value in dynasty leagues. Right now, the tea leaves are saying he's finished as a full-time starter in the NFL. 2. Anybody looks good compared to DeShaun Foster. I've read about DeAngelo's short yardage issues in a couple of different places, and they've gone out of their way to keep him from getting goal-line carries even in pre-season games. I think he's a talented back, but I don't trust John Fox with running backs, and I don't think they trust him in short yardage.

3. No. Gore is more talented, more dynamic, and much more involved in the passing game than McGahee. LJ is an interesting guy for dynasty leagues. You could point to the low '07 YPC, the heavy workload, the foot injury, and the poor Chiefs offense (which are all very good points), but the biggest reason to be down on his future is that he's no longer running behind the best offensive line in the history of the NFL. They've gone from an O-Line full of Hall of Famers and Pro-Bowlers to an O-Line that is pretty much bottom of the barrel. Still, I'd like his chances much better if the Chiefs weren't so disillusioned as to believe that Brodie Croyle should ever start another NFL game. I just think LJ has too much going against him right now in addition to the fact that he'll be almost 29-years-old at the start of the season. I prefer Gore.

 
Was expecting the name Norwood to be listed. The Falcons are poor, but... he's their more likely 2008 star player.

 
Thanks for all the respones. Edited for 2-19.

1. Adrian Peterson, phenomenal talent, if they get a good passing game going he could be an all-time great. Durability could be a problem.

2. LaDainian Tomlinson, still the best for 08', 29 years old though so may only have another 2 or 3 years of top production.

3. Joseph Addai, safest RB in dynasty leagues, had 15 Td's in essentially 13 games this year.

4. Steven Jackson, getting Saunders should help, getting an o-line could help more. 2006 looks like a career year for him but he should still be top-10 for many years to come.

5. Brian Westbrook, I'd like to rank him lower, but the production is there and he doesn't get hurt as much as he used to.

6. Larry Johnson, too much talent, KC will improve the o-line and had he stayed healthy he likely would have finished around 10th last year anyway.

7. Marshawn Lynch, if Buffalo's offense improves he could be up near Jackson.

8. Frank Gore, very talented but Martz isn't good for RB's. Still, he's too talented to put below...

9. Willis McGahee, young, gets full workload on a running team. If I didn't think the Ravens were falling apart he'd be higher.

10. Ryan Grant, I'm coming around on this guy, I still think he's kinda like Droughns in 04'. Its the system and the surrounding talent, but he's the guy so he can't be lower.

11. Willie Parker, was leading the NFL in rushing when he got hurt, if he gets back up to about 9-10 TD's this will be way too low.

12. Clinton Portis, seems to have shaken his injury woes. New offense won't help him.

13. Marion Barber, love the guy, I wish Dallas did too. Unlikely to ever get a full workload.

14. Brandon Jacobs, when he's healthy he's a beast. Averaged 5 YPC this season. Expect 9-10 TD's next year.

15. Maurice Jones-Drew, more talented then half the guys above him, but Jacksonville loves what they have at RB right now and its keeping Taylor healthy so it could go on for another 2-3 years.

16. Ronnie Brown, I don't want to overrate his 3 game stretch, but he did look great and he is the centerpiece of their offense. Sounds like the knee shouldn't prevent him from being ready for the season.

17. Michael Turner, can't put him higher as he is unproven, but he's a big-time talent. Chicago makes so much sense for him.

18. Darren McFadden, I have him going to Atlanta, I think this year's rookie backs are going to be really overrated because of the success of Peterson and Lynch.

19. Reggie Bush, I don't like him at all, but he does make plays and NO forces him the ball.

20. Earnest Graham, I still think a healthy Caddy forces a RBBC in Tampa, but there is enough room for both of them, Gruden doesn't pass like he did in Oakland and the o-line just keeps getting better. Look for Tampa to become similar to Jacksonville in the near future.

21. Rashard Mendenhall, I think he's a little bit better all-around back than Stewart, but again the rookies will be overrated. Look back to 06' and 05'...

22. Jonathan Stewart, Addai, Bush and Brown are the only highly touted ones in the top-20.

23. Laurence Maroney, not enough touches, career RB2. Better as a RB3.

24. DeAngelo Williams, I like him, but it doesn't seem like Fox does. 5 YPC is tough to ignore.

25. Jamal Lewis, assuming he's back in Cleveland, his numbers will come down some but he's still solid and could have another 2 years left in him.

 
Fear & Loathing said:
1. Look, I don't blame you for sticking behind a guy who just came off a down year due to injury. But you're completely ignoring the fact that he could be finished as a starting RB. From Rotoworld:

12/26/07: The Cincinnati Enquirer speculates that Rudi Johnson could be cut by the Bengals this offseason. Johnson has been outperformed by Kenny Watson all season, and with Kenny Irons, Chris Perry and DeDe Dorsey all in the picture, the Bengals might decide to cut Rudi and his $3.2 million salary, saving $1.4 against the cap next season. Rudi has missed four games with a hamstring injury this year.

1/25/08: Bengals offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski specified the running game as an area in need of improvement. Bengals scouts and coaches are looking for help at the Senior Bowl, but they've also compiled a list of veteran free agent running backs. With so many question marks in the backfield, the Bengals may seek Rudi Johnson insurance in free agency.
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The value just isn't there. Of course he could come back and put up 1200-11 or so. But until he does, he's without much value in dynasty leagues. Right now, the tea leaves are saying he's finished as a full-time starter in the NFL. 2. Anybody looks good compared to DeShaun Foster. I've read about DeAngelo's short yardage issues in a couple of different places, and they've gone out of their way to keep him from getting goal-line carries even in pre-season games. I think he's a talented back, but I don't trust John Fox with running backs, and I don't think they trust him in short yardage.

3. No. Gore is more talented, more dynamic, and much more involved in the passing game than McGahee. LJ is an interesting guy for dynasty leagues. You could point to the low '07 YPC, the heavy workload, the foot injury, and the poor Chiefs offense (which are all very good points), but the biggest reason to be down on his future is that he's no longer running behind the best offensive line in the history of the NFL. They've gone from an O-Line full of Hall of Famers and Pro-Bowlers to an O-Line that is pretty much bottom of the barrel. Still, I'd like his chances much better if the Chiefs weren't so disillusioned as to believe that Brodie Croyle should ever start another NFL game. I just think LJ has too much going against him right now in addition to the fact that he'll be almost 29-years-old at the start of the season. I prefer Gore.
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:shrug: especially the part about LJ. He is a solid RB3, possibly an RB2 in reasonably deep leagues, but the LJ that we grew to love in 05/06 is a thing of the past. I'm just glad people haven't realized that yet.

 
travdogg said:
Thanks for all the respones. Edited for 2-19.1. Adrian Peterson, phenomenal talent, if they get a good passing game going he could be an all-time great. Durability could be a problem.2. LaDainian Tomlinson, still the best for 08', 29 years old though so may only have another 2 or 3 years of top production.3. Joseph Addai, safest RB in dynasty leagues, had 15 Td's in essentially 13 games this year.4. Steven Jackson, getting Saunders should help, getting an o-line could help more. 2006 looks like a career year for him but he should still be top-10 for many years to come.5. Brian Westbrook, I'd like to rank him lower, but the production is there and he doesn't get hurt as much as he used to. 6. Larry Johnson, too much talent, KC will improve the o-line and had he stayed healthy he likely would have finished around 10th last year anyway. 7. Marshawn Lynch, if Buffalo's offense improves he could be up near Jackson. 8. Frank Gore, very talented but Martz isn't good for RB's. Still, he's too talented to put below...9. Willis McGahee, young, gets full workload on a running team. If I didn't think the Ravens were falling apart he'd be higher.10. Ryan Grant, I'm coming around on this guy, I still think he's kinda like Droughns in 04'. Its the system and the surrounding talent, but he's the guy so he can't be lower. 11. Willie Parker, was leading the NFL in rushing when he got hurt, if he gets back up to about 9-10 TD's this will be way too low.12. Clinton Portis, seems to have shaken his injury woes. New offense won't help him.13. Marion Barber, love the guy, I wish Dallas did too. Unlikely to ever get a full workload.14. Brandon Jacobs, when he's healthy he's a beast. Averaged 5 YPC this season. Expect 9-10 TD's next year.15. Maurice Jones-Drew, more talented then half the guys above him, but Jacksonville loves what they have at RB right now and its keeping Taylor healthy so it could go on for another 2-3 years.16. Ronnie Brown, I don't want to overrate his 3 game stretch, but he did look great and he is the centerpiece of their offense. Sounds like the knee shouldn't prevent him from being ready for the season.17. Michael Turner, can't put him higher as he is unproven, but he's a big-time talent. Chicago makes so much sense for him.18. Darren McFadden, I have him going to Atlanta, I think this year's rookie backs are going to be really overrated because of the success of Peterson and Lynch.19. Reggie Bush, I don't like him at all, but he does make plays and NO forces him the ball. 20. Earnest Graham, I still think a healthy Caddy forces a RBBC in Tampa, but there is enough room for both of them, Gruden doesn't pass like he did in Oakland and the o-line just keeps getting better. Look for Tampa to become similar to Jacksonville in the near future.21. Rashard Mendenhall, I think he's a little bit better all-around back than Stewart, but again the rookies will be overrated. Look back to 06' and 05'... 22. Jonathan Stewart, Addai, Bush and Brown are the only highly touted ones in the top-20.23. Laurence Maroney, not enough touches, career RB2. Better as a RB3.24. DeAngelo Williams, I like him, but it doesn't seem like Fox does. 5 YPC is tough to ignore.25. Jamal Lewis, assuming he's back in Cleveland, his numbers will come down some but he's still solid and could have another 2 years left in him.
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Thank you for posting this, and you have a pretty solid list. It is also good that you are adjusting your list slightly due to feedback from others. Makes sure you continue to trust your gut about players, however. Sometimes it is better to go against prevailing opinions. However, I don't think you are emphasizing the fact that these are dynasty rankings. LT and Westbrook are great, but LT will turn 29 before the season, and Westbrook 28. You may get a few years out of them, but then you are stuck with an old RB that has no trade value and is a shell of their former self. Guys like MJD, Jackson, Lynch, Gore, and Barber should be higher due to youth and upside. LT, Westbrook, LJ, and Parker should be lower due to age/amount of carries. Addai, Grant, and Graham are too high because they just aren't that talented. Talent wins out in a dynasty league.
 
I still think Brandon Jacobs is too high. He doesn't catch passes, isn't explosive, has at least one other good RB vying for playing time, and is injury prone. Also, an awful lot of his value is based upon TD's, which can be fleeting and are certainly less consistent than receptions and yardage.

If everything breaks right for him, he's a top ten RB, but more likely in any given year his performance is in the teens. Unlike guys like MJD and Ronnie Brown who are ranked just below him, I just can't imagine Jacobs being a top five back. In other words I think his upside doesn't warrant the ranking.

 
Just have a question for those knocking Addai - are you the same people who had him not in the top-10 this past season because he's not really talented?

 
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Just have a question for those knocking Addai - are you the same people who had him not in the top-10 this past season because he's not really talented?
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I think Addai has some talent and belongs in the top 10 without question. He is in a great system and catches the ball. However, I think he showed this year that he isn't capable of getting 400 touches, and that will limit his upside for the rest of his career. I would just prefer to take a more talented player in the top 5.
 
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switz said:
Just have a question for those knocking Addai - are you the same people who had him not in the top-10 this past season because he's not really talented?
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I think Addai has some talent and belongs in the top 10 without question. He is in a great system and catches the ball. However, I think he showed this year that he isn't capable of getting 400 touches, and that will limit his upside for the rest of his career. I would just prefer to take a more talented player in the top 5.
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I think Addai would have gotten more work if the Colts weren't playing it so "close to the vest" down the stretch. Addai essentially played 13 games this year and put up 1000-15 on a team that was hit as hard by injuries as any team in the league.I'm curious, who would you put in the top-5 instead of Addai?

 
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