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Dynasty WR Rankings - WR#1 (1 Viewer)

Who would you rank as the #1 dynasty WR?

  • Marques Colston - 6/5/83

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  • Braylon Edwards - 2/21/83

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  • Larry Fitzgerald - 8/31/83

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  • Andre Johnson - 7/11/81

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  • Chad Johnson - 1/9/78

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  • Randy Moss - 2/13/77

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  • Steve Smith - 5/12/79

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Reggie Wayne - 11/17/78

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

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  • Total voters
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Duckboy

Duckboy

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I'm starting the dynasty rankings for the WRs (hopefully someone will pick up the RBs and TEs). I've included the birthdates as jeter has for the QBs. Hopefully, we can get around 100-150 votes before moving on to the next poll (I'll leave it for about 24 hrs so everyone gets a shot, unless there is a clear runaway winner).

If you vote other, please share your thoughts for additions to the next poll. I've tried to include evnough options to satisfy everyone, but I'd like to keep it to about 5 or 6 a time after the first few.

ETA the dynasty crown.

 
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Went with Reggie Wayne. Best situation, talent and QB combo of anybody listed, and any questions that he could perform as the WR1 in the Indy offense without Harrison drawing attention were answered this season.

 
Looks to be a 2-horse race at this point. Bumping for more input. If it stays this close I'll probably do a tiebreaker poll.

 
Burning Sensation said:
Duckboy said:
Looks to be a 2-horse race at this point. Bumping for more input. If it stays this close I'll probably do a tiebreaker poll.
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Or, you could just give Fitz #1, Wayne #2, and move to poll three....just a thought.
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I agreed with this for Brady/Manning, but that was because the remaining votes weren't going to make a difference. Having 30+ votes between Johnson, Moss, and Braylon, with only 5 separating Fitz and Wayne right now, I think you have to have a runoff.
 
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
Duckboy said:
Looks to be a 2-horse race at this point. Bumping for more input. If it stays this close I'll probably do a tiebreaker poll.
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Or, you could just give Fitz #1, Wayne #2, and move to poll three....just a thought.
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I agreed with this for Brady/Manning, but that was because the remaining votes weren't going to make a difference. Having 30+ votes between Johnson, Moss, and Braylon, with only 5 separating Fitz and Wayne right now, I think you have to have a runoff.
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I suppose, but we wont get very far if we start having runoffs for every poll with a close result. I would like to see us get through 50+ WR's, close polls are only going to be more common the further we get.
 
I went with Wayne here. Although I doubt he finishes as the #1 wr next year, I think he has the lowest bust potential, and is the safest choice to be in the top 5

 
Let's see, Fitz puts up nearly identical stats as Wayne and is more than 4 years younger.

 
Burning Sensation said:
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
Duckboy said:
Looks to be a 2-horse race at this point. Bumping for more input. If it stays this close I'll probably do a tiebreaker poll.
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Or, you could just give Fitz #1, Wayne #2, and move to poll three....just a thought.
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I agreed with this for Brady/Manning, but that was because the remaining votes weren't going to make a difference. Having 30+ votes between Johnson, Moss, and Braylon, with only 5 separating Fitz and Wayne right now, I think you have to have a runoff.
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I suppose, but we wont get very far if we start having runoffs for every poll with a close result. I would like to see us get through 50+ WR's, close polls are only going to be more common the further we get.
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Definitely true. Part of the problem here is that Andre Johnson and Braylon don't belong in the poll. Of course it was impossible to know that going in, but it may have painted a clearer picture if those 20+ votes had been put in different buckets.I'm wary to change up the format because of the RB poll, but would there be a way to add a second poll in to be a preliminary running for the next official spot?E.g. Lets assume Larry wins this one. Dynasty WR2 thread has two polls:WR2 poll (official) would be Andre, Braylon, Randy, Reggie as the next top four vote getters.WR2 poll (primary) would be Colston, Chad, Steve Smith, TO, Marshall, whoever.Winner of the official poll is the Dynasty WR2 champ. Winner of the primary goes with the losers into the WR3 poll, and another person is loaded into the prelim? :thumbup: , :thumbup: , or :loco: ?
 
How can people not vote Moss? Sure he's getting older, but he has 6-7 years left in him, and he showed this year he can play at a high, super high level still. As long as he doesn't go back to the Raiders, he'll be putting up great numbers.

Fitzgerald, I just can't see being #1, or #2... there's Boldin, and no QB.

Wayne? Too many weapons, too inconsistent, and what happens when Gonzales develops more, and Harrison doesn't retire (though I think he will)

 
switz said:
How can people not vote Moss? Sure he's getting older, but he has 6-7 years left in him, and he showed this year he can play at a high, super high level still. As long as he doesn't go back to the Raiders, he'll be putting up great numbers.Fitzgerald, I just can't see being #1, or #2... there's Boldin, and no QB.Wayne? Too many weapons, too inconsistent, and what happens when Gonzales develops more, and Harrison doesn't retire (though I think he will)
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You think Moss is going to play until he is 38? :mellow: You say Wayne is too inconsistent, but Moss is not? :shock: :ph34r: Too many weapons on the Colts, but not the Patriots? :eek: :confused: :confused: Sure he is an elite talent, but i wouldnt trust him as my #1 WR, and i will not vote for him in the top 5.
 
Burning Sensation said:
switz said:
How can people not vote Moss? Sure he's getting older, but he has 6-7 years left in him, and he showed this year he can play at a high, super high level still. As long as he doesn't go back to the Raiders, he'll be putting up great numbers.Fitzgerald, I just can't see being #1, or #2... there's Boldin, and no QB.Wayne? Too many weapons, too inconsistent, and what happens when Gonzales develops more, and Harrison doesn't retire (though I think he will)
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You think Moss is going to play until he is 38? :confused: You say Wayne is too inconsistent, but Moss is not? :confused: :confused: Too many weapons on the Colts, but not the Patriots? :confused: :confused: :confused: Sure he is an elite talent, but i wouldnt trust him as my #1 WR, and i will not vote for him in the top 5.
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:goodposting: Moss is a great talent, but who is to say he will still be in New England next season and beyond? Moss had a phenomenal year that was clearly an aberration for the New England offense. Wayne had a great year playing in the always consistent Colt offense. That is not going to change. If Marvin comes back or if Gonzalez ever begins to produce to, say 80% of Marvin-like levels, there will still be plenty to go around for Wayne to be a consistent top 3 for the next 4-5 years or so.
 
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
Duckboy said:
Looks to be a 2-horse race at this point. Bumping for more input. If it stays this close I'll probably do a tiebreaker poll.
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Or, you could just give Fitz #1, Wayne #2, and move to poll three....just a thought.
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I agreed with this for Brady/Manning, but that was because the remaining votes weren't going to make a difference. Having 30+ votes between Johnson, Moss, and Braylon, with only 5 separating Fitz and Wayne right now, I think you have to have a runoff.
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I suppose, but we wont get very far if we start having runoffs for every poll with a close result. I would like to see us get through 50+ WR's, close polls are only going to be more common the further we get.
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Definitely true. Part of the problem here is that Andre Johnson and Braylon don't belong in the poll. Of course it was impossible to know that going in, but it may have painted a clearer picture if those 20+ votes had been put in different buckets.I'm wary to change up the format because of the RB poll, but would there be a way to add a second poll in to be a preliminary running for the next official spot?E.g. Lets assume Larry wins this one. Dynasty WR2 thread has two polls:WR2 poll (official) would be Andre, Braylon, Randy, Reggie as the next top four vote getters.WR2 poll (primary) would be Colston, Chad, Steve Smith, TO, Marshall, whoever.Winner of the official poll is the Dynasty WR2 champ. Winner of the primary goes with the losers into the WR3 poll, and another person is loaded into the prelim? :confused: , :confused: , or :confused: ?
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:goodposting: :confused: :confused: Keep it simple....who cares if Forums rank #1 or #2, with WRs there will definitely be differences of opinion and we need to keep it moving, rather than bog it down.
 
Little Big Head said:
I went with Wayne here. Although I doubt he finishes as the #1 wr next year, I think he has the lowest bust potential, and is the safest choice to be in the top 5
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I agree with the "Lowest Bust" potential.Fitz has too many questions, Colston has no WR across from him to make him viable Top 5 and R Moss is due for a meltdown; S Smith might have QB problems again; I like Braylon's options too, but do it more than once to make it real.
 
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
Duckboy said:
Looks to be a 2-horse race at this point. Bumping for more input. If it stays this close I'll probably do a tiebreaker poll.
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Or, you could just give Fitz #1, Wayne #2, and move to poll three....just a thought.
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I agreed with this for Brady/Manning, but that was because the remaining votes weren't going to make a difference. Having 30+ votes between Johnson, Moss, and Braylon, with only 5 separating Fitz and Wayne right now, I think you have to have a runoff.
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I suppose, but we wont get very far if we start having runoffs for every poll with a close result. I would like to see us get through 50+ WR's, close polls are only going to be more common the further we get.
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Part of the problem here is that Andre Johnson and Braylon don't belong in the poll.
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:bowtie: I'd rather have AJ than Reggie Wayne in dynasty, and Braylon could be as high as #4 overall.
 
Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
PranksterJD said:
Burning Sensation said:
Duckboy said:
Looks to be a 2-horse race at this point. Bumping for more input. If it stays this close I'll probably do a tiebreaker poll.
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Or, you could just give Fitz #1, Wayne #2, and move to poll three....just a thought.
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I agreed with this for Brady/Manning, but that was because the remaining votes weren't going to make a difference. Having 30+ votes between Johnson, Moss, and Braylon, with only 5 separating Fitz and Wayne right now, I think you have to have a runoff.
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I suppose, but we wont get very far if we start having runoffs for every poll with a close result. I would like to see us get through 50+ WR's, close polls are only going to be more common the further we get.
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Part of the problem here is that Andre Johnson and Braylon don't belong in the poll.
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:confused: I'd rather have AJ than Reggie Wayne in dynasty, and Braylon could be as high as #4 overall.
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you could make a pretty good case for a handfull of wrs. AJ was impressive this year...60 rec 851 yds 8tds in 9 games. I think Schaub is a nice buy low QB in dynasty leagues too
 
Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
PranksterJD said:
Part of the problem here is that Andre Johnson and Braylon don't belong in the poll. Of course it was impossible to know that going in
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:whistle: I'd rather have AJ than Reggie Wayne in dynasty, and Braylon could be as high as #4 overall.
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Wasn't saying that they didn't deserve to be in the poll. Was saying that, based on the results, they didn't belong there. Had they **not** been included then we might have gotten a clearer picture of 1 and 2, since the AJ/Braylon voters would have had to stake a claim with Wayne, Moss, or Fitz.I've added back in the next sentence that you didn't quote, but is the most important part. I was trying to figure out a way to avoid the runoff polls, but still get the results, though rzr's probably right that the complication isn't worth it.

 
switz said:
How can people not vote Moss? Sure he's getting older, but he has 6-7 years left in him, and he showed this year he can play at a high, super high level still. As long as he doesn't go back to the Raiders, he'll be putting up great numbers.Fitzgerald, I just can't see being #1, or #2... there's Boldin, and no QB.Wayne? Too many weapons, too inconsistent, and what happens when Gonzales develops more, and Harrison doesn't retire (though I think he will)
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Moss needs to get his contract sorted out. Once locked in and happy about it, he may well be #1. If he gets franchised and is not happy, or if he signs for big $ with another team... who knows.Wayne is in the perfect system. #1 WR on a passing team with a great QB. Very low downside, WR1 potential, WR5-6 as the floor. And young enough to perform at that level for the next 3-5 years. Great dynasty position.
 
Brutis said:
Mr. Peterson said:
All about Fitz.
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You must be basing this off potential because I havent seen it on the field. Half the time he isnt even the best wr on his team? Not sure why all the love.
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He has finished as a top five WR two of the last three years, with both seasons having 100+ catches, 1400+ yards and 10 TD's. The 3rd season he was hurt for almost four full games, or he would have been close to those numbers again. The guy is still only 24 yers old, whats not to like? :confused:
 
23TDs.

Randy Moss scored 5 more TDs than any player in the league last year. Not WR.. player.

Moss will be 31 years old in 4 days from now. Wayne is 9 months younger than Moss is yet some of you are getting excited about his 10TDs. Less than half of what Moss scored.

For the record Fitzgerald is 25 years old right now. He will be 26 on August 31st right around when the season starts.

Neither one of these guys will ever sniff the upside that Randy Moss has. They are ploders compared to him. The only advantage Fitz has over Moss is time. Thats not going to matter over the next 3 years.

Moss has said over and over he wants to stay with the Patriots. The Pats have said they want to keep Randy. He is going to be a Patriot and finish out his career with Brady.

You couldn't get me to trade Moss straight up for either one of these guys or anyone except maybe LT or AD. Maybe Steven Jackson. It is just too fun crushing everyone with Moss.

 
My 'net cratered last night, so I'll set up the tiebreaker poll now. With only a third of the support for either individual player, I think the loser of the tiebreaker needs to go back into the pool to make sure they are the "consensus" #2. I will drop a few of the choices though that are well behind, at least for a couple of polls.

We've got time in the offseason to make sure we get the best possible results. As we get farther down the line, I'm hoping the separation gets higher, but the top level is usually more important to get accurate. I'm figuring we'll take this through WR48 or so.

As I suspected, there's a philosophy difference when looking at things dynasty (and I thought it would come out much more in the WRs versus QBs and RBs where the top 1-2 are pretty set).

 
Biabreakable said:
23TDs.

Randy Moss scored 5 more TDs than any player in the league last year. Not WR.. player.

Moss will be 31 years old in 4 days from now. Wayne is 9 months younger than Moss is yet some of you are getting excited about his 10TDs. Less than half of what Moss scored.

For the record Fitzgerald is 25 years old right now. He will be 26 on August 31st right around when the season starts.

Neither one of these guys will ever sniff the upside that Randy Moss has. They are ploders compared to him. The only advantage Fitz has over Moss is time. Thats not going to matter over the next 3 years.

Moss has said over and over he wants to stay with the Patriots. The Pats have said they want to keep Randy. He is going to be a Patriot and finish out his career with Brady.

You couldn't get me to trade Moss straight up for either one of these guys or anyone except maybe LT or AD. Maybe Steven Jackson. It is just too fun crushing everyone with Moss.
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For the record, you should check your facts before posting, especially when you use a phrase like "for the record". :thumbup: http://www.nfl.com/players/larryfitzgerald...le?id=FIT437493

 
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Duckboy said:
My 'net cratered last night, so I'll set up the tiebreaker poll now. With only a third of the support for either individual player, I think the loser of the tiebreaker needs to go back into the pool to make sure they are the "consensus" #2. I will drop a few of the choices though that are well behind, at least for a couple of polls. We've got time in the offseason to make sure we get the best possible results. As we get farther down the line, I'm hoping the separation gets higher, but the top level is usually more important to get accurate. I'm figuring we'll take this through WR48 or so.As I suspected, there's a philosophy difference when looking at things dynasty (and I thought it would come out much more in the WRs versus QBs and RBs where the top 1-2 are pretty set).
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Its your poll, but if you set up a tiebreaker for every poll where a player doesnt win by 30%, it will take you until the season starts to get through 50 WR's. Not to mention, the runoffs are going to finish just as close, with 9 times out of 10 the original winner will win again, especially thise where the winner wins by 10+ votes(Fitz/Wayne).
 
i only look 3 years out in FF. if Moss stays in NE I would take him over any WR over the next 3 years

 
sheerterror said:
Went with Reggie Wayne. Best situation, talent and QB combo of anybody listed, and any questions that he could perform as the WR1 in the Indy offense without Harrison drawing attention were answered this season.
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Not to poop in the punch with the age factor, but Wayne will be 30 this November. For me, that makes it hard to put guys like him, Moss (31), and CJ (30) at the top of the WR list in dynasty, especially when you look at proven young guys like Fitz (24), AJ (26), and Braylon (24).
 
it's pretty amazing that no ones even mentioning the 2 WRs that were the 1st 2 drafted in most leagues this past season: steve smith and chad johnson.

just mentioning, i wouldn't put either #1 either.

fitz is more physically dominating, but i'll take the comfort that comes from having peyton manning's #1 option over the next 5 years.

 
Rev said:
sheerterror said:
Went with Reggie Wayne. Best situation, talent and QB combo of anybody listed, and any questions that he could perform as the WR1 in the Indy offense without Harrison drawing attention were answered this season.
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Not to poop in the punch with the age factor, but Wayne will be 30 this November. For me, that makes it hard to put guys like him, Moss (31), and CJ (30) at the top of the WR list in dynasty, especially when you look at proven young guys like Fitz (24), AJ (26), and Braylon (24).
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I agree to an extent, but 30 isn't particularly old for a WR...no reason to think Wayne couldn't sustain production for at least 4 more years provided he stays injury free. Of the 3 younger guys you listed, it's kind of funny you mention AJ and Edwards amongst Fitz (who, IMO is much, much more proven) when Edwards has really only produced at an elite level for 1 season and has a somewhat murky future QB situation, and AJ, who has yet to put up a real monster season (a combination of often being injured and a poor surrounding cast - although he looked like he was on his way this year.) I think Colston absolutely belongs in the discussion amongst those 3 guys, but there's too many questions surrounding all 4 of them for me to confidently make any of the them the first WR off the board in an initial dynasty draft. You know what you will get with Wayne, and as someone I believe said earlier, he may never finish the season as the top WR, but his floor seems to be top 5-6 while he certainly has the potential to finish as a top 2-3 yearly.
 
sheerterror said:
Rev said:
sheerterror said:
Went with Reggie Wayne. Best situation, talent and QB combo of anybody listed, and any questions that he could perform as the WR1 in the Indy offense without Harrison drawing attention were answered this season.
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Not to poop in the punch with the age factor, but Wayne will be 30 this November. For me, that makes it hard to put guys like him, Moss (31), and CJ (30) at the top of the WR list in dynasty, especially when you look at proven young guys like Fitz (24), AJ (26), and Braylon (24).
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I agree to an extent, but 30 isn't particularly old for a WR...no reason to think Wayne couldn't sustain production for at least 4 more years provided he stays injury free. Of the 3 younger guys you listed, it's kind of funny you mention AJ and Edwards amongst Fitz (who, IMO is much, much more proven) when Edwards has really only produced at an elite level for 1 season and has a somewhat murky future QB situation, and AJ, who has yet to put up a real monster season (a combination of often being injured and a poor surrounding cast - although he looked like he was on his way this year.) I think Colston absolutely belongs in the discussion amongst those 3 guys, but there's too many questions surrounding all 4 of them for me to confidently make any of the them the first WR off the board in an initial dynasty draft. You know what you will get with Wayne, and as someone I believe said earlier, he may never finish the season as the top WR, but his floor seems to be top 5-6 while he certainly has the potential to finish as a top 2-3 yearly.
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I like your reasoning here, though I would say that AJ and Edwards have domonstrated an ability to put up consistant WR1 numbers when healthy. And in terms of situational stability, Fitz' QB situation is far from stable, CJ is looking to be traded, and Moss is a free agent (likely to be tagged). Your probably right that Colston may have the most stability of any of the group, but I think he's going to have more competition as the receivers around him develop... And then there's Wayne, who will likely shine as long as both his QB and his body cooperate with him.Any room for Roy Williams in this discussion?
 
Rev said:
sheerterror said:
Went with Reggie Wayne. Best situation, talent and QB combo of anybody listed, and any questions that he could perform as the WR1 in the Indy offense without Harrison drawing attention were answered this season.
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Not to poop in the punch with the age factor, but Wayne will be 30 this November. For me, that makes it hard to put guys like him, Moss (31), and CJ (30) at the top of the WR list in dynasty, especially when you look at proven young guys like Fitz (24), AJ (26), and Braylon (24).
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and Marques Colston. 98rec 1202yds 11tds is pretty good in my book
 
Burning Sensation said:
Biabreakable said:
23TDs.

Randy Moss scored 5 more TDs than any player in the league last year. Not WR.. player.

Moss will be 31 years old in 4 days from now. Wayne is 9 months younger than Moss is yet some of you are getting excited about his 10TDs. Less than half of what Moss scored.

For the record Fitzgerald is 25 years old right now. He will be 26 on August 31st right around when the season starts.

Neither one of these guys will ever sniff the upside that Randy Moss has. They are ploders compared to him. The only advantage Fitz has over Moss is time. Thats not going to matter over the next 3 years.

Moss has said over and over he wants to stay with the Patriots. The Pats have said they want to keep Randy. He is going to be a Patriot and finish out his career with Brady.

You couldn't get me to trade Moss straight up for either one of these guys or anyone except maybe LT or AD. Maybe Steven Jackson. It is just too fun crushing everyone with Moss.
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For the record, you should check your facts before posting, especially when you use a phrase like "for the record". :lmao: http://www.nfl.com/players/larryfitzgerald...le?id=FIT437493
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If you are refering to NFL.com still listing Larry Fitz as 24 years old look at his birth date. August 31 1983. That means he turned 25 years old in August.Why don't you check the facts before trying to call someone out for not checking out the facts?

tsk tsk BS. :goodposting:

 
Biabreakable said:
Burning Sensation said:
Biabreakable said:
23TDs.

Randy Moss scored 5 more TDs than any player in the league last year. Not WR.. player.

Moss will be 31 years old in 4 days from now. Wayne is 9 months younger than Moss is yet some of you are getting excited about his 10TDs. Less than half of what Moss scored.

For the record Fitzgerald is 25 years old right now. He will be 26 on August 31st right around when the season starts.

Neither one of these guys will ever sniff the upside that Randy Moss has. They are ploders compared to him. The only advantage Fitz has over Moss is time. Thats not going to matter over the next 3 years.

Moss has said over and over he wants to stay with the Patriots. The Pats have said they want to keep Randy. He is going to be a Patriot and finish out his career with Brady.

You couldn't get me to trade Moss straight up for either one of these guys or anyone except maybe LT or AD. Maybe Steven Jackson. It is just too fun crushing everyone with Moss.
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For the record, you should check your facts before posting, especially when you use a phrase like "for the record". :D http://www.nfl.com/players/larryfitzgerald...le?id=FIT437493
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If you are refering to NFL.com still listing Larry Fitz as 24 years old look at his birth date. August 31 1983. That means he turned 25 years old in August.Why don't you check the facts before trying to call someone out for not checking out the facts?

tsk tsk BS. :unsure:
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In my part of the world we are still waiting for August. At that point in time we will will Larry a happy 25th birthday. It is also 2008 over here.
 
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