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1.01 and you are ON THE CLOCK (fantasy) (1 Viewer)

THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA

THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA

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I have the 1.01 in a few leagues.....Traded for it in both.

But i guess everyone assumes DMAC is the pick...

To all others with 1.01 or if you had 1.01 who are you targeting.

Im undecided, alot will factor into if SEA/HOU grabs a top back in the 1st.

Who are you guys taking?

 
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA said:
I have the 1.01 in a few leagues.....Traded for it in both.But i guess everyone assumes DMAC is the pick...To all others with 1.01 or if you had 1.01 who are you targeting. Im undecided, alot will factor into if SEA/HOU grabs a top back in the 1st.Who are you guys taking?
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I try to trade down 1 spot if the guy at 1.02 wants McFadden. I take Stewart or Mendenhall at 1.02.
 
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA said:
I have the 1.01 in a few leagues.....Traded for it in both.But i guess everyone assumes DMAC is the pick...To all others with 1.01 or if you had 1.01 who are you targeting. Im undecided, alot will factor into if SEA/HOU grabs a top back in the 1st.Who are you guys taking?
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In that situation I would ALWAYS see what each team will give up to get the 1st pick. Somebody always falls in love with a rookie and you could get a great haul.
 
I trade down to 1.02 or even 1.03 and grab either Stewart/Mendenhall while getting something of value in return with them, either another early pick or a top young prospect. Someone will pay to get McFadden after what AP did last year and it will be a mistake imo.

 
ClownDogs said:
I trade down to 1.02 or even 1.03 and grab either Stewart/Mendenhall while getting something of value in return with them, either another early pick or a top young prospect. Someone will pay to get McFadden after what AP did last year and it will be a mistake imo.
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:goodposting: I agree with the previous posters. This is a prime year to trade down because the actual gap in value between 1.01 and 1.02/1.03 is small, whereas the perceived gap is quite a bit bigger.
 
I disagree. I think that fantasy teams should almost always take the big stud over a group of talented players. Obviously you have to look at the talent of all players involved. However, in my opinion, trades in which you receive a stud for a group of talented players the team receiving the stud is usually the better off. I believe this because you have to take into account the players you will be adding with the open spots you are creating.

A perfect example is a trade I made this past season.

My team receives: Boldin, Pennington

His team receives: Branch, Ju. Jones, Jason Campbell

When looking at this trade, it still seems at least relatively even. But you have to take into account the player I was able to add off of the Waiver Wire. The trade should really appear:

My team receives: Boldin, Pennington, Clemens

His Team Receives: Branch, Ju. Jones, Campbell

Obviously trades vary in quality due to what a roster looks like, but I believe you can see that this is pretty reasonable logic. This is especially effective in Dynasty Leagues that allow 18 or less players.

That being said, Ill take McFadden.

 
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KoolKat said:
I disagree. I think that fantasy teams should almost always take the big stud over a group of talented players. Obviously you have to look at the talent of all players involved. However, in my opinion, trades in which you receive a stud for a group of talented players the team receiving the stud is usually the better off. I believe this because you have to take into account the players you will be adding with the open spots you are creating.A perfect example is a trade I made this past season.My team receives: Boldin, PenningtonHis team receives: Branch, Ju. Jones, Jason CampbellWhen looking at this trade, it still seems at least relatively even. But you have to take into account the player I was able to add off of the Waiver Wire. The trade should really appear:My team receives: Boldin, Pennington, ClemensHis Team Receives: Branch, Ju. Jones, CampbellObviously trades vary in quality due to what a roster looks like, but I believe you can see that this is pretty reasonable logic. This is especially effective in Dynasty Leagues that allow 18 or less players.That being said, Ill take McFadden.
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The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
 
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart. Right now, I see it this way:McFadden>>Stewart>>>Mendenhall
 
KoolKat said:
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart.
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Yep. I don't think the 1.01 is in a tier of its own this year. I think 1.01, 1.02, and 1.03 are all first tier picks. Darren McFadden will be in my final top 3 rookies, but I haven't decided which rung yet.
 
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KoolKat said:
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart. Right now, I see it this way:McFadden>>Stewart>>>Mendenhall
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That's how I see it as well. Right now, I would take McFadden without question. My only concern is if he goes to the Raiders.
 
cstu said:
That's how I see it as well. Right now, I would take McFadden without question.
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I would certainly question that decision. Not saying you aren't correct, but DMac isn't far enough ahead of Mendy or Stewart to warrant an absolute #1 without seeing where they go.What if (obviously won't happen) he goes to Denver? He'll spend the rest of his natural-borne life splitting carries with....someone. what if he goes to Oakland? Obviously an effective run blocking scheme, but who knows what the Crazy Old Man will do. Perhaps DMac runs the ball 450 times in 08 and breaks, perhaps he runs it 175 times in a split with whomever of their 4 solid RBs remains, perhaps he becomes the primary runner, gets 20-25 touches per game, and gets relief only often enough to keep him from breaking?the point is, you just don't know, and he isn't THAT much better than #2 or #3 to compensate for a crappier situation.
 
I'm at 1.01 and am leaning towards taking Stewart. 1.02 probably won't trade and is a Texans fan, and I like Stewart a lot more than Mendenhall, so trading to 3 is risky. I'll wait it out until the NFL draft and preseason, but I like Stewart a lot better than McFadden based on talent alone.

 
KoolKat said:
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart. Right now, I see it this way:McFadden>>Stewart>>>Mendenhall
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It really depends on where they end up.
 
The Scientist said:
KoolKat said:
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart. Right now, I see it this way:McFadden>>Stewart>>>Mendenhall
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It really depends on where they end up.
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I am generally one to take talent over situation. That logic was what made a lot of fantasy owners take Michael Bennett over LT2 all those years back.
 
KoolKat said:
The Scientist said:
KoolKat said:
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart. Right now, I see it this way:McFadden>>Stewart>>>Mendenhall
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It really depends on where they end up.
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I am generally one to take talent over situation. That logic was what made a lot of fantasy owners take Michael Bennett over LT2 all those years back.
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And when people took DeAngelo Williams over Joseph Addai.It's pretty presumptuous to assume that McFadden = Tomlinson and Stewart/Mendenhall = Bennett. That's a best case/worst case scenario. I think the issue this year is that a lot of owners don't see much of a gap (if any) between the top 2-3.
 
EBF said:
KoolKat said:
The Scientist said:
KoolKat said:
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart. Right now, I see it this way:McFadden>>Stewart>>>Mendenhall
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It really depends on where they end up.
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I am generally one to take talent over situation. That logic was what made a lot of fantasy owners take Michael Bennett over LT2 all those years back.
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And when people took DeAngelo Williams over Joseph Addai.It's pretty presumptuous to assume that McFadden = Tomlinson and Stewart/Mendenhall = Bennett. That's a best case/worst case scenario. I think the issue this year is that a lot of owners don't see much of a gap (if any) between the top 2-3.
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I have 1.01 and 1.02 and I'm not sure Mcfadden will be one of those picks. Situation will dictate who I take. I may move 1.01 to 1.03 and pick up additional comp.
 
EBF said:
KoolKat said:
The Scientist said:
KoolKat said:
EBF said:
The trouble here is that Stewart and Mendenhall might be just as studly as McFadden. When you can trade a stud for a stud and also get something valuable thrown in, it's a good move.
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That's a good point. I guess this all depends on your opinion of McFadden relative to Mendenhall and Stewart. Right now, I see it this way:McFadden>>Stewart>>>Mendenhall
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It really depends on where they end up.
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I am generally one to take talent over situation. That logic was what made a lot of fantasy owners take Michael Bennett over LT2 all those years back.
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And when people took DeAngelo Williams over Joseph Addai.It's pretty presumptuous to assume that McFadden = Tomlinson and Stewart/Mendenhall = Bennett. That's a best case/worst case scenario. I think the issue this year is that a lot of owners don't see much of a gap (if any) between the top 2-3.
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I am not making the assumption that McFadden is the next LT2. I was just giving anecdotal evidence of how that logic could backfire. I also thought Addai was the better talent in the D Will scenario you present. I understand that a lot of people don't see much of a gap between the three runners, but I do. Therefore, McFadden is my pick almost regardless of where he lands.
 
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