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Dynasty WR Rankings - WR#11 (1 Viewer)

Who would you rank as the #11 dynasty WR?

  • Plaxico Burress - 8/12/77

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  • Santonio Holmes - 3/3/84

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Torry Holt - 6/5/76

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • TJ Houshmandzadeh - 9/26/77

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Greg Jennings - 9/21/83

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Calvin Johnson - 9/25/85

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Terrell Owens - 12/7/73

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Roy Williams - 12/20/81

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

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1. Larry Fitzgerald 8/31/83 33% [Wayne 28%]

2. Reggie Wayne 11/17/78 28% [Moss 15%] (WR1 and 2 used same poll)

3. Andre Johnson 7/11/81 41% [Moss 29%]

4. Braylon Edwards 2/21/83 46% [Moss 29%]

5. Randy Moss 2/13/77 44% [Colston 23%]

6. Marques Colston 6/5/83 39% [sSmith 29%]

7. Steve Smith 5/12/79 46% [Chad Johnson 23%]

8. Chad Johnson 1/9/78 46% [Marshall 28%]

9. Brandon Marshall 3/23/84 51% [boldin 18%]

10. Anquan Boldin 10/3/80 31% [Calvin Johnson 17%]

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:pickle: at 4 WRs with 3 votes each and one with 2. This should continue to be close, as this tier is large.
 
If Chad Johnson gets traded, TJ will draw the best coverage. Calvin Johnson didn't show me much in his first year in a pass happy offense. New offensive coordinator now which means more adjustments for CJ. Had to go with Holmes. Was banged up and still put up a very nice season.

 
Went Housh for the 3rd straight time(he's really underrated)

Holmes probably would have been my 2nd choice.

Bowe and Evans are probably the next best guys to add to the list.

 
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the Bungles take a monster cap hit by trading Ocho

it's funny that people are underrating TO, saying he maybe only has 2 good years left.

Take a look at the guy. He is every bit as freakishly fast and strong as any of the young guys, and he shows no signs of losing a step or losing talent. He is in a pass-happy offense that will get him the ball.

Yes, he'll be 35 at the end of next season, but Jerry Rice produced late into his 30s and early into his 40s. TO is just as fast, just as strong, and a lot smarter than the majority of the guys on this list.

TO has 3 more seasons of being a legitimate WR1, and then 2 or 3 more as a WR2.

 
the Bungles take a monster cap hit by trading Ochoit's funny that people are underrating TO, saying he maybe only has 2 good years left.Take a look at the guy. He is every bit as freakishly fast and strong as any of the young guys, and he shows no signs of losing a step or losing talent. He is in a pass-happy offense that will get him the ball.Yes, he'll be 35 at the end of next season, but Jerry Rice produced late into his 30s and early into his 40s. TO is just as fast, just as strong, and a lot smarter than the majority of the guys on this list.TO has 3 more seasons of being a legitimate WR1, and then 2 or 3 more as a WR2.
Everyone was saying this about Harrison last year.There comes an age where a player can't be counted on regardless of his past. TO is at that age. I agree that he could have 2 more elite years left, but the risk/reward equation doesn't make sense this high. If he breaks down, you're up #### creek without a paddle.
 
why all the love for Calvin Johnson? Not saying he isn't good, just not getting how he's rated so highly
He was every bit as good as Edwards and Fitzgerald entering the league. I think people are intrigued by his upside.
 
why all the love for Calvin Johnson? Not saying he isn't good, just not getting how he's rated so highly
He was every bit as good as Edwards and Fitzgerald entering the league. I think people are intrigued by his upside.
I guess I don't see him as having the same ceiling as Edwards and Fitz.
You might be right. But certainly when you look at their pedigrees and their rookie years, you'll notice some similarities. A lot of people deluded themselves into thinking Calvin was Randy Moss, so I think his fairly unspectacular rookie season has been a disappointment for some folks. They were expecting an instant monster. How often do you get an instant monster? Not often. Calvin's rookie year didn't affect my opinion of him in any way. Where I have him in my rankings right now is about where I would have had him last year. I understand skepticism, but I don't understand why anyone would have him any lower than they did last year. He is the same player with the same long-term prospects.
 
I think the relative success earned by a few rookie and 2nd year WRs has had a definite impact on the results of these shark pool dynasty WR polls. I am not saying that is right or wrong, but the youth over veteran value seems to be greater than ever.

 
I think the relative success earned by a few rookie and 2nd year WRs has had a definite impact on the results of these shark pool dynasty WR polls. I am not saying that is right or wrong, but the youth over veteran value seems to be greater than ever.
no doubt. Colston, Jennings and Marshall really kinda broke away, and people are speculating that guys like Calvin Johnson should be superstars.
A lot of people deluded themselves into thinking Calvin was Randy Moss, so I think his fairly unspectacular rookie season has been a disappointment for some folks.
very good point. I have him in the "second 15", just like I did last year. Until he gets out of Detroit and onto a real team with a real QB and a real offensive line, he'll stay second 15.
 
why all the love for Calvin Johnson? Not saying he isn't good, just not getting how he's rated so highly
He was every bit as good as Edwards and Fitzgerald entering the league. I think people are intrigued by his upside.
I didn't think he was anywhere near as impressive as Edwards or Fitz were as rookies. Edwards looked like he was coming on before he got hurt and Fitz made an amazing catch or 2 every week and put up 800-8 with McCown at QB.Calvin isn't even the best WR on his team and likely won't be unless Roy leaves. He dropped a ton passes this year and couldn't get separation from DB's. Maybe that was injury related but 11th is still way too high for a guy who hasn't accomplished much more than I have on an NFL level, no matter how athletic he may be.
 
Here are some interesting comparisons between Torry Holt and Jennings/Holmes. I chose to compare these three as I think they are similar type WRs who rely on speed, hands, ball tracking abilty, and precise route running--none are overpowering or particularly physical ala TO, Marshall, Boldin. All are legitimate deep threats but also excel at inermediate routes and have the ability to take any ball to paydirt. Furthermore, despite their smaller statures, they are all legit red zone threats merely due to their other afforementioned talents. To further the similarities, Holt was in a great situation with a pass happy Rams offense, Holmes Steelers are moving toward a more pass happy philosophy and Big Ben is proving to be an exceptional QB, and Jennings, who admittedly has the most question marks at the QB postion, should have Favre for another couple years, and I see the transition to Rodgers being more seamless than many might think. I am not suggestng that either Holmes or Jennings possess the talent of Torry Holt, but the numbers are impressive nonetheless, so it is not farfetched to suggest they might be in his class.

Here are the trios stats in their second pro seasons (targets, receptions, yards, ypc, td's)

Holt: unavailable, 85, 1635 19.9 6

Holmes: 85, 52, 942, 18.1, 8

Jennings: 84, 53, 920, 17.4, 12

Both Holmes and Jennings posted insane, and also eerily similar, numbers given their limited targets. While many state that their point per target numbers will regress to some mean as their targets increase, defenses gameplan more for them and roll coverage their way, etc. I think this assumption is a bit premature given how limited the data is at this juncture and also given that they are both only two years in, so one would be hardpressed to argue that they're remotely close to peaking. We simply don't know what their true mean is.

For the sake of argument, let's assume they were each targeted 140 times in 2007, reallistic numbers based on the number of targets typical for Ward and Driver. Extrapolating Holmes and Jennings 2007 numbers based on a 140 target benchmark, we get:

Holt: ~130-140, 85, 1635 19.9 6

Holmes: 140, 85, 1552, 18.1, 12

Jennings: 140, 88, 1533, 17.4, 20

Wow, eerily similar once again when compared to Holt--the main outlier of course being the number of TDs. Of all the stats that are likely to regress, I would say that TDs are the most likely. They tend to be the most volatile stat, and while not inconceivable, I just don't see Greg Jennings ever posting a 20 TD season.

I'm not suggesting that these numbers are the be all end all and that in Holmes and Jennings we have two future Torry Holts. Nor am I suggesting, as previously stated, that I am presumptuous enough to assume that either possesses the raw talent of Holt. But what I am saying is that the notion is also not as far fetched as you might think.

Therefore, based on age, situation, proven talent, and tremendous room for growth, I would be hardpressed to pass on either of these players at this point.

My vote is for Holmes due to the more stable future of his QB situation.

 
Bump back up. A few pretty close, but if it stays about the same, I'll call this in the morning and move on.

 

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