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Whose better: Schuab or Rodgers? (1 Viewer)
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EBF
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I don't think anyone can say with any confidence what Aaron Rodgers is or isn't at this point. We just haven't seen enough of him to know what his future holds. I view him as a solid dynasty QB2 since he has a lot of upside, but can't be relied on.
That said, I prefer Schaub at this point in time. He quietly put up solid numbers last season and seems poised to become a fringe top 10 type in the near future. He's one of the better dynasty QB values available right now.
That said, I prefer Schaub at this point in time. He quietly put up solid numbers last season and seems poised to become a fringe top 10 type in the near future. He's one of the better dynasty QB values available right now.
DarabZarrabi
Footballguy
Is it just me or was Rodgers hurt A LOT for a backup qb? I thought thats supposed to be the best position in football but I could have sworn he was hurt like 4-5 times already in his career
EBF
Footballguy
I don't think he was hurt much (if ever) in college. I'd chalk his NFL injuries up to bad luck at this point. If it becomes a problem next year then there might be cause for concern.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I really think you have to boil down all the factors?
How good are the defenses for both QB's? The worse the defense the more the offense has to pass.
Rodgers plays in cold weather.....Schuab warm weather...and a dome?
The olines...the coaching....the weapons...etc.
How good are the defenses for both QB's? The worse the defense the more the offense has to pass.
Rodgers plays in cold weather.....Schuab warm weather...and a dome?
The olines...the coaching....the weapons...etc.
notdarkyet
Footballguy
I would put my money on Schaub, though I do think that Rodgers has a greater number of surrounding cast to help him.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
They both have good NFL
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but I'll bet my 2 cents on Rodgers. I think the only thing Schaub has on him is experience. Rodgers was better in college, was drafted much higher, has a better team surrounding him, and has had a more stable environment and mentorship (is mentorship a word?!) in which to grow. And I'm never wrong, except when I am.
Edit - when I said mentorship, with regard to Schaub I was referring to the ATL years when he was starting out. Kubiak in HOU is very good.
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but I'll bet my 2 cents on Rodgers. I think the only thing Schaub has on him is experience. Rodgers was better in college, was drafted much higher, has a better team surrounding him, and has had a more stable environment and mentorship (is mentorship a word?!) in which to grow. And I'm never wrong, except when I am.
Edit - when I said mentorship, with regard to Schaub I was referring to the ATL years when he was starting out. Kubiak in HOU is very good.
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delusional
Footballguy
Schaub simply because he has more game experience
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Would prefer Schaub, but really like both their situations (especially if Houston gets a proven running game).
I think both are high QB2's now with potential to be in the QB8-12 range.
I think both are high QB2's now with potential to be in the QB8-12 range.
Aaronstory
Footballguy
How do you know?
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Just thinking the same thing. I agree there is no real good way to evaluate which one of these guys is a better prospect to this point. Schaub played 60% of a season in a new offense last year and looked pretty good. Rodgers has been in the same system for three years and will now get the benefit of a full TC as the #1 guy going into his fourth. Rodgers has better looking talent around him right now, but that could change easily enough if AJ can stay healthy and Daniels/Jacoby Jones can develop into good players.EBF is right. Don't want to count on either guy right now, but both are very intriguing prospects.
az_prof
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THe OP asked for an opinion so I gave mine. Here is my rationale:We know MUCH more about Schaub, and what we know is favorable.Kitrick Taylor said:JohnnyU said:Just thinking the same thing. I agree there is no real good way to evaluate which one of these guys is a better prospect to this point. Schaub played 60% of a season in a new offense last year and looked pretty good. Rodgers has been in the same system for three years and will now get the benefit of a full TC as the #1 guy going into his fourth. Rodgers has better looking talent around him right now, but that could change easily enough if AJ can stay healthy and Daniels/Jacoby Jones can develop into good players.
EBF is right. Don't want to count on either guy right now, but both are very intriguing prospects.
Schaub has thrown 450 throws in the NFL and he has completed 61%, which is good.
Rogers has only made 59 attempts (1/7 the amount of experience and data as for Schaub).
Schaub ahs 15 TDs passes and Rogers 1.
Schaub has shown that he can be very effective running that offense whereas Rogers has not. He is a question mark.
Beyond that I like the upside for Houston more than GB with Favre retiring. I see Driver as old at 33 and I don't think Jennings is special and is better suited to be a WR2. There is no one on GB's roster who comes close to AJ. If Houston does as I suspect they will and drafts one of the big three rookie RBs then they will have an advantage there as well over Grant and company.
So, in a nutshell, one players has played enough to show what he is capable of and it is good, while the other has not played enough to give any certainty about his ability at all. That is why "it isn't even close." Unless you are a Green Bay fan or a Rodger's owner or unless you like to bet on unproven upside over proven production.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
A little tidbit from Tom Silverstein who is a reporter for the Milwaukee Journal. He's had many opportunities to watch Aaron Rodgers in practice and training camp. Many more opportunities than anyone not employed by the Packers.
I don't think he's a non-entity. I have to admit when he first got here, I didn't think he had much and I didn't think he'd be the starter after Favre left. But to his credit he worked on building strength and gaining humility. His arm is better and he adds a scrambling element that Favre had lost. Still, to call him a sure thing is ridiculous. The guy has to stay healthy. Some guys are injury prone and some aren't. We'll find out about him. I would say his strengths are accuracy, throwing the deep ball and mobility. I would say weaknesses are locking in on receivers, anticipating blitzes and throwing on the run.
As for Jason Campbell, I am not a huge fan. I'd take the chance on both Rodgers and Schaub before Campbell, as I see a higher upside for both. However, Campbell isn't junk. He's definitely had his good moments. Unfortunately, he's had plenty of bad as well. I personally think he'll struggle to ever become a starting fantasy QB, falling perenially in that 10-15 range.
I don't think he's a non-entity. I have to admit when he first got here, I didn't think he had much and I didn't think he'd be the starter after Favre left. But to his credit he worked on building strength and gaining humility. His arm is better and he adds a scrambling element that Favre had lost. Still, to call him a sure thing is ridiculous. The guy has to stay healthy. Some guys are injury prone and some aren't. We'll find out about him. I would say his strengths are accuracy, throwing the deep ball and mobility. I would say weaknesses are locking in on receivers, anticipating blitzes and throwing on the run.
As for Jason Campbell, I am not a huge fan. I'd take the chance on both Rodgers and Schaub before Campbell, as I see a higher upside for both. However, Campbell isn't junk. He's definitely had his good moments. Unfortunately, he's had plenty of bad as well. I personally think he'll struggle to ever become a starting fantasy QB, falling perenially in that 10-15 range.
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EBF
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
I seem to remember Shaub missing a TON of ball games last season with constant, nagging injuries. not sure what your point is..
eric rymer
Footballguy
Rodgers, Schaub, Campbell...in that order for meRodgers - Has so many weapons, that if he is healthy, he will be successfulSchaub - has only one real weapon in Andre Johnson. If they add a serious threat via a running game, he could close the gap.Campbell - This is a running team and CP is the star of the team. I don't think he will ever be a top 10 QB IMO.
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