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[Dynasty] - RB #29 (1 Viewer)

Who would you draft as the #29 RB, standard FBG scoring

  • Ahmad Bradshaw NYG 3/26/1986

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  • Edgerin James ARI 8/1/1978

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  • Ray Rice ROOKIE

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  • Felix Jones ROOKIE

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  • Thomas Jones NYJ 8/19/1978

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  • Selvin Young DEN 11/1/1983

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  • Jerious Norwood ATL 7/29/1983

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  • Chris Henry TEN 6/6/1985

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  • Jamaal Charles ROOKIE

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Chris Johnson ROOKIE

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  • Matt Forte ROOKIE

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Justin Fargas OAK 1/25/1980

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  • Other - WHO?

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FUBAR

FUBAR

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1. Adrian Peterson MIN 3/21/1985 75% (SJax 15%)

2. SJax STL 7/22/1983 44% (LT 41%)

3. LT SD 6/23/1979 (Addai 4%)

4. Addai IND 5/3/1983 72% (Westbrook 26%)

5. Westbrook PHI 9/2/1979 51% (Gore 12%)

6. Frank Gore SF 5/14/1983 36% (Lynch 23%)

7. Marshawn Lynch BUF 4/22/1986 29% (LJ 22%)

8a. Larry Johnson KCC 11/19/1979

8b. Clinton Portis WAS 9/1/1981

10. Maurice Jone-Drew JAX 3/23/1985 33% (MB3 15%)

11. Marion Barber III DAL 6/10/1983 36% (McGahee 13%)

12a. Reggie Bush NO 3/2/1985

12b. Ronnie Brown MIA 12/12/1981

12c. Willis McGahee BAL 10/21/1981

15. Willie Parker PIT 11/11/1980 28% (Grant, Maroney, McFadden 20%)

16. Laurence Maroney NE 2/5/1985 29% (Grant 26%)

17. Ryan Grant GB 12/9/1982 34% (D-Mac 28%)

18. Darren McFadden ROOK 8/27/1987

19a. Michael Turner, SD? 2/13/1982

19b. Jonathan Stewart, ROOK 3/21/1987

21. Rashard Mendenhall ROOK 6/21/1987

22. DeAngelo Williams CAR 4/25/1983

23. Brandon Jacobs NYG 7/6/1982

24. LenDale White TEN 12/20/1984

25. Jamal Lewis CLE 8/29/1979

26. Kevin Jones, DET 8/21/1982

27. Earnest Graham TBB 1/15/1980

28. Julius Jones SEA 8/21/1981

FUBAR said:
BTW, just so it's out there now, I won't be doing tiebreakers; if any RB is within 3% of the top choice, I'll be listing them as 8a and 8b (maybe even 8c)
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I wonder if as many vote Bradshaw with the resigning of Ward, who was very productive last year. Three-headed monster folks.

 
Voted other... I know I'm in the minority, but I still think Benson has promise.

I don't think he'll ever be a stud, but I think he could become a solid RB2. I guess we'll see what happens.

 
JPeso said:
I wonder if as many vote Bradshaw with the resigning of Ward, who was very productive last year. Three-headed monster folks.
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We are talking dynasty, not redraft, and Ward signed only a one year contract for chump change. It wasn't a featured RB contract or salary. I wouldn't trade Bradshaw for any of the people left because of his upside and at this point, 29, we are not talking about a RB that you need to start this year anyway. The future is more important at this point in the ranking than the present.
 
Selvin Young could really come through for people if he can be had this cheaply.

Or he could be replaced and become Mike Bell.

 
az_prof said:
JPeso said:
I wonder if as many vote Bradshaw with the resigning of Ward, who was very productive last year. Three-headed monster folks.
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We are talking dynasty, not redraft, and Ward signed only a one year contract for chump change. It wasn't a featured RB contract or salary. I wouldn't trade Bradshaw for any of the people left because of his upside and at this point, 29, we are not talking about a RB that you need to start this year anyway. The future is more important at this point in the ranking than the present.
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I agree with the rationale, but not the choice of player. This is exactly why I would choose Felix, Rice, Charles, and maybe even Forte and Johnson above Edge types. However, do you really think Bradshaw is the long term answer in NY? I know he fell in the draft due to character concerns, but the lack of pedigree scares me. Bottom line: I think all the rookies I mentioned are more talented than Bradshaw, and I think Bradshaw will settle in as a nice change of pace. He has very limited upside.
 
Jedimaster21 said:
He has very limited upside.
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I have to disagree with this statement. Bradshaw showed great instinct last season and ran the ball very well. There are some in NY who think he will flat out beat Jacobs as the starter within a year or so. Now I'm not saying he's going to be better than Felix Jones or some of the other rookies, but from a small sample size this guy has proven he can play at a high level. I think he has huge upside, but also a decent amount of risk.
 
Jedimaster21 said:
az_prof said:
JPeso said:
I wonder if as many vote Bradshaw with the resigning of Ward, who was very productive last year. Three-headed monster folks.
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We are talking dynasty, not redraft, and Ward signed only a one year contract for chump change. It wasn't a featured RB contract or salary. I wouldn't trade Bradshaw for any of the people left because of his upside and at this point, 29, we are not talking about a RB that you need to start this year anyway. The future is more important at this point in the ranking than the present.
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I agree with the rationale, but not the choice of player. This is exactly why I would choose Felix, Rice, Charles, and maybe even Forte and Johnson above Edge types. However, do you really think Bradshaw is the long term answer in NY? I know he fell in the draft due to character concerns, but the lack of pedigree scares me. Bottom line: I think all the rookies I mentioned are more talented than Bradshaw, and I think Bradshaw will settle in as a nice change of pace. He has very limited upside.
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I'm not at all convinced that Rice, Charles, Forte, Johnson are more talented than Bradshaw. Felix? Sure, I could see that. Bradshaw has already demonstrated an ability to produce in the NFL. Felix has not. Felix is probably more talented than Bradshaw. Frankly, it all depends on where Felix ends up. If he goes to Chicago, fantastic. If he's sharing time with Barber in Dallas, I'll be less excited.
 
How are people voting Edge > Felix Jones!?!?

Do you honestly think you could trade Edge for the 1.4 or 1.5 rookie pick??

 
FUBAR said:
snorlax said:
Bump?
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thanks. I'd like to get more than 150 votes if possible, it looks like a tie right now. I must be in strange leagues, in mine there's no way people give 1.04 (or Rice or Felix) for Bradshaw or Edge.
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I think part of it's the uncertainty before the draft. No matter how much we think we can scout a kid, we don't know how professional talent evaluators view them until their name is called; it's safer if you're drafting now to go with a "known" in Edge than to end up holding the next Antonio Pittman (who looked like the possible 1.04 pick at some point last offseason).Hold this poll 2 months from now, with Jones or Rice drafted in the top 40 picks and in a good roster situation, and you'd have a different response.
 
I'm one of the offenders - I won't vote for guys who haven't been drafted yet in these polls.

 
I would say that a large number of the voters in these polls are not involved in a deep keeper or dynasty league, and it is very apparent in their votes. There is lack of long term stategic thinking when Edge/Thomas Jones are being selected here...

 
JPeso said:
bigmurd said:
Weiner Dog said:
How are people voting Edge > Felix Jones!?!?Do you honestly think you could trade Edge for the 1.4 or 1.5 rookie pick??
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Not a chance.
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If the team has a chance to win this year, I think it is entirely possible that someone would move the 1.5 for Edge. Would I? No.
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Yeah I really wouldn't trade the consensus 1.04 from last year Brandon Jackson for a top 10 RB. It's hilarious how much people overvalue draft picks. Who you would rather have had last year, Brandon Jackson or Edge. Hmmm....Jeff still ranks Edge 14th overall dynasty RB. And he can't crack top 30 on forum. *lol* Even Bloom had him at 25.Felix Jones? Huh? Just imagine a dynasty team where EVERYONE is between 21-23 years old! Wow that would be awesome. Well unless you factor that half of them will be busts. But hey, AGE kills! Any draft pick is a gamble, and some teams don't need to gamble. You can take proven vets, pawn off the picks to "rebuilders" and keep winning. Sure if your team sucks, you need to gamble on rookies. But with all the NFL draft hype, you're better off trading draft picks. You'll get tons of proven value, and let people gamble on coin flips. After a few years of that, you'll be loaded with proven talent, and they'll be loaded with Lendal White, Benson, Caddy, Charles Rogers, BMW, Chris Perry, Brandon Jackson, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Robert Meacham, Dwayne Jarrett . Wow everyone is under 26, what an insane dynasty squad!(yes people will go list all the great rookies in the last 3 years. That's the point, half of them are busts.)FF/NFL has become a year round sport. Draft coverage is exploding. Anyone in a dynasty league should cash in on the over exposure these rookies are getting. Felix Jones? That's rich.
 
teamroc said:
JPeso said:
bigmurd said:
Weiner Dog said:
How are people voting Edge > Felix Jones!?!?Do you honestly think you could trade Edge for the 1.4 or 1.5 rookie pick??
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Not a chance.
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If the team has a chance to win this year, I think it is entirely possible that someone would move the 1.5 for Edge. Would I? No.
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Yeah I really wouldn't trade the consensus 1.04 from last year Brandon Jackson for a top 10 RB. It's hilarious how much people overvalue draft picks. Who you would rather have had last year, Brandon Jackson or Edge. Hmmm....Jeff still ranks Edge 14th overall dynasty RB. And he can't crack top 30 on forum. *lol* Even Bloom had him at 25.Felix Jones? Huh? Just imagine a dynasty team where EVERYONE is between 21-23 years old! Wow that would be awesome. Well unless you factor that half of them will be busts. But hey, AGE kills! Any draft pick is a gamble, and some teams don't need to gamble. You can take proven vets, pawn off the picks to "rebuilders" and keep winning. Sure if your team sucks, you need to gamble on rookies. But with all the NFL draft hype, you're better off trading draft picks. You'll get tons of proven value, and let people gamble on coin flips. After a few years of that, you'll be loaded with proven talent, and they'll be loaded with Lendal White, Benson, Caddy, Charles Rogers, BMW, Chris Perry, Brandon Jackson, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Robert Meacham, Dwayne Jarrett . Wow everyone is under 26, what an insane dynasty squad!(yes people will go list all the great rookies in the last 3 years. That's the point, half of them are busts.)FF/NFL has become a year round sport. Draft coverage is exploding. Anyone in a dynasty league should cash in on the over exposure these rookies are getting. Felix Jones? That's rich.
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Like I have said before, be as patronizing as you want, your strategy isn't a good one. You can have a mediocre, 30 year old Edge every time...I'll take the rookie with promise. Edge may have a decent year, but then you are stuck with a player with no upside, that will offer you NO exit value. I would certainly trade an unproven rookie for a YOUNG guy that is more proven, but not for aging veterans that are already past their statistical peak. That strategy will not work if you want to compete long term IMO.
 
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I was planning to stop at RB 30, with 3 essentially tied here at #29 I'm inclined to stop now.

Ahmad Bradshaw NYG 3/26/1986 [ 30 ] ** [18.99%]

Edgerin James ARI 8/1/1978 [ 29 ] ** [18.35%]

Felix Jones ROOKIE [ 28 ] ** [17.72%]

 
teamroc said:
Yeah I really wouldn't trade the consensus 1.04 from last year Brandon Jackson for a top 10 RB.

It's hilarious how much people overvalue draft picks.

Who you would rather have had last year, Brandon Jackson or Edge. Hmmm....

Jeff still ranks Edge 14th overall dynasty RB. And he can't crack top 30 on forum. *lol* Even Bloom had him at 25.

Felix Jones? Huh? Just imagine a dynasty team where EVERYONE is between 21-23 years old! Wow that would be awesome. Well unless you factor that half of them will be busts. But hey, AGE kills!

Any draft pick is a gamble, and some teams don't need to gamble. You can take proven vets, pawn off the picks to "rebuilders" and keep winning. Sure if your team sucks, you need to gamble on rookies. But with all the NFL draft hype, you're better off trading draft picks. You'll get tons of proven value, and let people gamble on coin flips. After a few years of that, you'll be loaded with proven talent, and they'll be loaded with Lendal White, Benson, Caddy, Charles Rogers, BMW, Chris Perry, Brandon Jackson, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Robert Meacham, Dwayne Jarrett . Wow everyone is under 26, what an insane dynasty squad!

(yes people will go list all the great rookies in the last 3 years. That's the point, half of them are busts.)

FF/NFL has become a year round sport. Draft coverage is exploding. Anyone in a dynasty league should cash in on the over exposure these rookies are getting. Felix Jones? That's rich.
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Do whatever strategy works for you, but if your team is "so good" each year, you won't have those high picks to trade for proven talent - unless you're able to get them years in advance (always a good strategy, not always feasible). You go ahead and take a team full of Edge-type players. As you said, half the top players bust.

So, I'll take B. Jackson, Bowe, Addai, L. White, Braylon, Benson, Fitzgerald, Perry, Palmer, and Rogers. Each of these went around 1.04/5 and half were busts. Do you really prefer a team of players of Edge-types?

There are essentially 3 ways to get elite players.

1. Draft them - which usually requires a high pick

2. Get lucky later in the draft / WW with Ryan Grant, Rudi Johnson, Graham, etc. This is obviously very difficult in competitive leagues - and yes, I did say this is luck.

3. Trade for them, but in my experience, this is very tough to do.

The easiest way without grabbing a whole lot of late round fliers (and who has room for them on their roster?) is the early picks.

 
FUBAR said:
I was planning to stop at RB 30, with 3 essentially tied here at #29 I'm inclined to stop now. Ahmad Bradshaw NYG 3/26/1986 [ 30 ] ** [18.99%]Edgerin James ARI 8/1/1978 [ 29 ] ** [18.35%]Felix Jones ROOKIE [ 28 ] ** [17.72%]
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Makes sense: for all practical purpose these three are tied and below this it is total and complete speculation.
 
Jedimaster21 said:
I would say that a large number of the voters in these polls are not involved in a deep keeper or dynasty league, and it is very apparent in their votes. There is lack of long term stategic thinking when Edge/Thomas Jones are being selected here...
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maybe some would rather win now with proven players than wait to see what comes from some undersized or mid tier talents.
 
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