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Older dynasty RB to buy low (1 Viewer)

dmac37

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Who can you see being a good buy low to milk out one or two more years.

Edge- will be hard to buy low

Fargas- also may not come cheap, will injuries re-surface, Dmac coming to town

T. Henry- started out great last year then injuries and RBBC

A. Green- if healthy will he even be the starter

C. Brown- could be the main back in a Houston RBBC

Rudi- any life left, now a RBBC

F. Taylor- because of last year, price may be higher than what he will return

Alexander- the fork may already be slightly lodged

T. Jones- if Dmac does not go to the Jets he could be a good buy

I would think Green and Brown could be had the cheapest and produce if they don't cancel each other out. Many think they could draft a RB in the first round but I think they would not pick an RB till later.

I think Henry could be worth a look if you can deal with the Shananigans.

T. Jones should have the best chance to produce if the Jets don't take Dmac.

Who are you looking to take a chance on?

 
dmac37 said:
Who can you see being a good buy low to milk out one or two more years.Edge- will be hard to buy lowFargas- also may not come cheap, will injuries re-surface, Dmac coming to townT. Henry- started out great last year then injuries and RBBCA. Green- if healthy will he even be the starterC. Brown- could be the main back in a Houston RBBCRudi- any life left, now a RBBCF. Taylor- because of last year, price may be higher than what he will returnAlexander- the fork may already be slightly lodgedT. Jones- if Dmac does not go to the Jets he could be a good buyI would think Green and Brown could be had the cheapest and produce if they don't cancel each other out. Many think they could draft a RB in the first round but I think they would not pick an RB till later.I think Henry could be worth a look if you can deal with the Shananigans.T. Jones should have the best chance to produce if the Jets don't take Dmac.Who are you looking to take a chance on?
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T. Jones, I would say. Then Henry. Edge would be good but could not be gotten cheap. Most of the rest is worthless.
 
Edge for a year could help win you a championship as an RB3. Thomas Jones, on the other hand, could not.

 
az_prof said:
T. Jones, I would say. Then Henry. Edge would be good but could not be gotten cheap. Most of the rest is worthless.
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It'd be buying low for a reason. Guy looked awful last year and even if they don't draft, Leon/Chatman will cut in a lot.
 
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JPeso said:
az_prof said:
T. Jones, I would say. Then Henry. Edge would be good but could not be gotten cheap. Most of the rest is worthless.
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It'd be buying low for a reason. Guy looked awful last year and even if they don't draft, Leon/Chatman will cut in a lot.
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He didnt look that bad to me. 1100yds behind that terrible OL was an accomplishment. Chatman is a back up and was signed to a cheap 1 yr deal. The Jets invested heavy in FA with Faneca,Richardson, and Woody to improve the Jets run game. I like his chances if the Jets dont go Mcfadden in the draft
 
Sammy Morris looked good before injury. Much might depend on if the Patriots draft a RB, and how early, but I like him. Kevin Faulk is getting up there in age, and we all too soon forget Maroney's injuries.

 
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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He finished as RB #6 in one of my dynasty leagues. If you have a team that can make a legitimate run at a title this year, I think hes a very solid piece. 28yrs old, just signed a 3 year deal. Probably 2 years left as a starter. Had 1300 9 last year 30 rec for 248. Hes a solid RB2 for 08 imo. Not sure how cheap you can get him for
 
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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I delt Jamal in a 16 team dynasty league.This is what I wanted for him.Considering the league is VERY TE heavy, and Gonzo was my only other TE, and having ADP, Maroney and 1.2 as my RB's. I wanted to get younger at TE.I gaveLewis, Jamal CLE RBWright, Jason CLE RBYear 2008 Draft Pick 2.04Year 2008 Draft Pick 4.08Miller, Zach OAK TE Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.14Year 2008 Draft Pick 5.14
 
comfortably numb said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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I delt Jamal in a 16 team dynasty league.This is what I wanted for him.Considering the league is VERY TE heavy, and Gonzo was my only other TE, and having ADP, Maroney and 1.2 as my RB's. I wanted to get younger at TE.I gaveLewis, Jamal CLE RBWright, Jason CLE RBYear 2008 Draft Pick 2.04Year 2008 Draft Pick 4.08Miller, Zach OAK TE Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.14Year 2008 Draft Pick 5.14
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Ouch. You got fleeced, regardless of scoring.
 
comfortably numb said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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I delt Jamal in a 16 team dynasty league.This is what I wanted for him.Considering the league is VERY TE heavy, and Gonzo was my only other TE, and having ADP, Maroney and 1.2 as my RB's. I wanted to get younger at TE.I gaveLewis, Jamal CLE RBWright, Jason CLE RBYear 2008 Draft Pick 2.04Year 2008 Draft Pick 4.08Miller, Zach OAK TE Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.14Year 2008 Draft Pick 5.14
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Not a good deal for you... :unsure:
 
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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I delt Jamal in a 16 team dynasty league.This is what I wanted for him.Considering the league is VERY TE heavy, and Gonzo was my only other TE, and having ADP, Maroney and 1.2 as my RB's. I wanted to get younger at TE.I gaveLewis, Jamal CLE RBWright, Jason CLE RBYear 2008 Draft Pick 2.04Year 2008 Draft Pick 4.08Miller, Zach OAK TE Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.14Year 2008 Draft Pick 5.14
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Ouch. You got fleeced, regardless of scoring.
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I wouldn't say he got fleeced. TE's are almost impossible to get in this league. And to be able to start either 2Rb/1TE or 1RB/2TE, there was no reason for him to have Maroeny/AP/1.02 AND Jamal, decent move imho. He might have been able to get a tad more, but not really worth the hassle.
 
hankey2mlh said:
comfortably numb said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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I delt Jamal in a 16 team dynasty league.This is what I wanted for him.Considering the league is VERY TE heavy, and Gonzo was my only other TE, and having ADP, Maroney and 1.2 as my RB's. I wanted to get younger at TE.I gaveLewis, Jamal CLE RBWright, Jason CLE RBYear 2008 Draft Pick 2.04Year 2008 Draft Pick 4.08Miller, Zach OAK TE Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.14Year 2008 Draft Pick 5.14
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Not a good deal for you... :unsure:
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I don't want to take this thread in the wrong direction, I will just say, I was very happy with the deal!
 
I would try to sell Jamal Lewis high if I could (I haven't been able to yet).

Fred Taylor is a guy I've bought low as a short-term fill-in.

 
How old is Rudi?

He must be 29 or right around there. He played mostly on a wonky hammy last year...I think many are writing him off a little soon.

 
Garts said:
How old is Rudi?He must be 29 or right around there. He played mostly on a wonky hammy last year...I think many are writing him off a little soon.
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That's a nice call. While I definitely think he is on his way out, his value is pretty low now, so it would not be a huge risk. I was going to mention Ahman Green, but at this point, I think he is toast.
 
Why would you want to buy an old RB specifically?

In many leagues I bet you could get a guy like Maroney or Turner for the same price as Jamal.

 
Mr. Peterson said:
E.Graham is the guy to get here. Will have a solid year this year and maybe even next.
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Situation resembles Lewis in that Graham owners are not looking to sell, most think he is in the RB15-20 range. I personally would not pay that price.
 
Little Big Head said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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He finished as RB #6 in one of my dynasty leagues. If you have a team that can make a legitimate run at a title this year, I think hes a very solid piece. 28yrs old, just signed a 3 year deal. Probably 2 years left as a starter. Had 1300 9 last year 30 rec for 248. Hes a solid RB2 for 08 imo. Not sure how cheap you can get him for
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I really don't like Jamal.. he will be way overvalued. Take away his game where he ran over the Bengal for 216 yds and then the game against the Seahawks where he had 20 carries for 37 yds (not even 2 YPC) and 4 TDs; and Jamal was just avg.
 
travdogg said:
Why would you want to buy an old RB specifically?In many leagues I bet you could get a guy like Maroney or Turner for the same price as Jamal.
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I did not include Lewis on the original list because of this reason. The intent is to discuss buying low on an aging RB that may still have 1 or 2 years as a RB#2 or RB#3. This could help you if you have a team that can compete for a title or an older established player may offset a team with a lot developing players. Some teams may want to unload an older back before they lose all value, especially if they are rebuilding.
 
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KellysHeroes said:
Little Big Head said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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He finished as RB #6 in one of my dynasty leagues. If you have a team that can make a legitimate run at a title this year, I think hes a very solid piece. 28yrs old, just signed a 3 year deal. Probably 2 years left as a starter. Had 1300 9 last year 30 rec for 248. Hes a solid RB2 for 08 imo. Not sure how cheap you can get him for
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I really don't like Jamal.. he will be way overvalued. Take away his game where he ran over the Bengal for 216 yds and then the game against the Seahawks where he had 20 carries for 37 yds (not even 2 YPC) and 4 TDs; and Jamal was just avg.
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In my non-ppr league Jamal had 10 games of 12 points or more and 5 games under 12 points, including one where he was injured. That's pretty good.Discount weeks 6 and 9 from ADP and he did mediocre last year. Include them and he was outstanding. Discounting a player's best weeks doesn't work, because no player does well on the weeks he does poorly.
 
OddibeMcD said:
KellysHeroes said:
Little Big Head said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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He finished as RB #6 in one of my dynasty leagues. If you have a team that can make a legitimate run at a title this year, I think hes a very solid piece. 28yrs old, just signed a 3 year deal. Probably 2 years left as a starter. Had 1300 9 last year 30 rec for 248. Hes a solid RB2 for 08 imo. Not sure how cheap you can get him for
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I really don't like Jamal.. he will be way overvalued. Take away his game where he ran over the Bengal for 216 yds and then the game against the Seahawks where he had 20 carries for 37 yds (not even 2 YPC) and 4 TDs; and Jamal was just avg.
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In my non-ppr league Jamal had 10 games of 12 points or more and 5 games under 12 points, including one where he was injured. That's pretty good.Discount weeks 6 and 9 from ADP and he did mediocre last year. Include them and he was outstanding. Discounting a player's best weeks doesn't work, because no player does well on the weeks he does poorly.
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:popcorn: week 11 92/TD 4/30week 12 134/TD 2/13week 13 62 3/24 TDweek 14 118/TD 3/18 TDweek 15 163 1/11week 16 92 5/42week 17 128That doesn't include the 2 games you mentioned.I wish all my RB's could be that average...
 
im a graham owner who cant move him in the 15-20 range, hes pretty much a cant move for me at the moment as most owners dont want to pay that 15-20 rb range and his upside doesnt make him worth selling for less

 
travdogg said:
Why would you want to buy an old RB specifically?In many leagues I bet you could get a guy like Maroney or Turner for the same price as Jamal.
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travdogg said:
Agreed, Graham's price is probably even higher than Lewis'.
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This makes no sense at all. So Graham is > Maroney or Turner? Even factoring in the excess beer I've had, i cannot get this to make sense.
 
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travdogg said:
JPeso said:
Mr. Peterson said:
E.Graham is the guy to get here. Will have a solid year this year and maybe even next.
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Situation resembles Lewis in that Graham owners are not looking to sell, most think he is in the RB15-20 range. I personally would not pay that price.
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Agreed, Graham's price is probably even higher than Lewis'.
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I think J. Lewis's value is significantly higher than Graham's. Lewis has the pedigree, he has had elite seasons, just signed a new contract, and plays in one of the best offenses in the league. He is also the same age as Graham. Graham is a mediocre talent in a mediocre offense, and won't be holding that job long term. Jamal is the man in Cleveland until his skills start to diminish. Now that I think about it, I think Lewis is actually a great buy low.
 
KellysHeroes said:
Little Big Head said:
JPeso said:
comfortably numb said:
Jamal Lewis
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In all of my leagues he is overvalued (in my eyes) and looked at by owners around RB15-20. What can you get him for?
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He finished as RB #6 in one of my dynasty leagues. If you have a team that can make a legitimate run at a title this year, I think hes a very solid piece. 28yrs old, just signed a 3 year deal. Probably 2 years left as a starter. Had 1300 9 last year 30 rec for 248. Hes a solid RB2 for 08 imo. Not sure how cheap you can get him for
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I really don't like Jamal.. he will be way overvalued. Take away his game where he ran over the Bengal for 216 yds and then the game against the Seahawks where he had 20 carries for 37 yds (not even 2 YPC) and 4 TDs; and Jamal was just avg.
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He only had 2 games under 19 points from weeks 8-16 in the league Im refering to :thumbup: No reason to think the Browns offense wont be moving the chains again especially with the addition of Stallworth on the outside. Jamal wont be seeing a lot of extra defenders in the box with the weapons Anderson has in the passing game. You can say take away this game or that game, but the fact is those games count. You could say that about a lot of good players...Chad Johnson comes immediately to mind
 
Gave my 3.3 rookie pick for S. Alexander. I'm in dire need of RB's hoping to get 1 decent year 2 would be a blessing. now I sit and wait hoping he goes somewhere he will get good playing time.

 
dirtyhalos said:
im a graham owner who cant move him in the 15-20 range, hes pretty much a cant move for me at the moment as most owners dont want to pay that 15-20 rb range and his upside doesnt make him worth selling for less
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What upside do you speak of? If I had Graham and someone was willing to pay RB25-30 price, I would jump to it. He isn't young, but people will give you the mileage argument, but he doesn't have the homerun talent. He will be replaced by 09 at the latest. It took him 10 games before Gruden gave him a compliment. Why? He isn't flashy. He is fairly productive, but Gruden wants a Caddy-like talent to lead his team, and Graham doesn't have it. I wouldn't be surprised if TB drafted a RB in the 3rd/4th round and gave him a shot.
 
travdogg said:
Why would you want to buy an old RB specifically?

In many leagues I bet you could get a guy like Maroney or Turner for the same price as Jamal.
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In many more I would say no you couldn't. 2 trades in one of my leagues in the last month (start 3 WR, 2 RB, .5 PPR for RB & 1 PPR for WR/TE):Jamal + 2.01

for

Santonio Holmes + 3.02

Bulger + 1.02

for

Turner + Kellen Clemens

Leaving out that the Turner buyer in this example overpayed in my opinion, I've seen Turner change hands in many leagues this offseason, Jamal is a much cheaper purchase. Especially in FBG leagues, the FBG boards have been pimping Turner for years.

 
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JPeso said:
Mr. Peterson said:
E.Graham is the guy to get here. Will have a solid year this year and maybe even next.
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Situation resembles Lewis in that Graham owners are not looking to sell, most think he is in the RB15-20 range. I personally would not pay that price.
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As a Graham owner I am dying to sell. I'm unable to protect him and I can't find a buyer. :IBTL: My asking price is pretty low too. I'm pretty surprised to be honest. He finished as the RB10 and I can't get a bite. Even the Caddy owner (who just dropped him) only has FWP on his roster isn't interested.
 
This may a bit thinking out of the box but to me LT2 seems like a buy low. A year ago you would have to trade your entire franchise for him. He is still expensive but it seems there has been quite a bit of movement of him this year. He could lead you to a couple more titles.

 
Warhogs said:
This may a bit thinking out of the box but to me LT2 seems like a buy low. A year ago you would have to trade your entire franchise for him. He is still expensive but it seems there has been quite a bit of movement of him this year. He could lead you to a couple more titles.
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LT is a buy-low only if you have an extra WR to throw around. I wouldn't pay much more than a top 15-20 RB and a top 25-30 WR unless I had an outcrop of talent.
 
eric rymer said:
JPeso said:
Mr. Peterson said:
E.Graham is the guy to get here. Will have a solid year this year and maybe even next.
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Situation resembles Lewis in that Graham owners are not looking to sell, most think he is in the RB15-20 range. I personally would not pay that price.
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As a Graham owner I am dying to sell. I'm unable to protect him and I can't find a buyer. :goodposting: My asking price is pretty low too. I'm pretty surprised to be honest. He finished as the RB10 and I can't get a bite. Even the Caddy owner (who just dropped him) only has FWP on his roster isn't interested.
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There has been one guy in most of my leagues who seem to covet Graham. I have seen him move WRs like Housh in multiple leagues for Graham and a late 1st or early 2nd. I play with this guy in maybe 6/8 leagues and I think he owns Graham in all.
 
Buckna said:
travdogg said:
Why would you want to buy an old RB specifically?

In many leagues I bet you could get a guy like Maroney or Turner for the same price as Jamal.
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In many more I would say no you couldn't. 2 trades in one of my leagues in the last month (start 3 WR, 2 RB, .5 PPR for RB & 1 PPR for WR/TE):Jamal + 2.01

for

Santonio Holmes + 3.02

Bulger + 1.02

for

Turner + Kellen Clemens

Leaving out that the Turner buyer in this example overpayed in my opinion, I've seen Turner change hands in many leagues this offseason, Jamal is a much cheaper purchase. Especially in FBG leagues, the FBG boards have been pimping Turner for years.
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I moved Jamal for Holmes straight-up (we only start 1-2 RBs but 3-5 WRs, 16 teams)And Turner is over-priced every where since he has been pimped every where not just FBGs.

People who over-paid for him the last 2 off-seasons want their investment back.

 
JPeso said:
eric rymer said:
JPeso said:
Mr. Peterson said:
E.Graham is the guy to get here. Will have a solid year this year and maybe even next.
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Situation resembles Lewis in that Graham owners are not looking to sell, most think he is in the RB15-20 range. I personally would not pay that price.
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As a Graham owner I am dying to sell. I'm unable to protect him and I can't find a buyer. :goodposting: My asking price is pretty low too. I'm pretty surprised to be honest. He finished as the RB10 and I can't get a bite. Even the Caddy owner (who just dropped him) only has FWP on his roster isn't interested.
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There has been one guy in most of my leagues who seem to covet Graham. I have seen him move WRs like Housh in multiple leagues for Graham and a late 1st or early 2nd. I play with this guy in maybe 6/8 leagues and I think he owns Graham in all.
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Brave man. He'll probably only get 1 year, maybe 2 out of Graham. He's not a long-term answer IMO but may be top 15-20 for a year.
 
Sinrj said:
Julius Jones. He's not old be should be cheap.
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I think just the opposite, since he went to Seattle many think he will be the man and will not be had cheap. I see him in a RBBC on a poor run blocking- pass first team.I do not think his value will equal his cost.
 
I agree on the JJones aspect......He isnt gonna get any respect as long as SA is still on that roster so all he needs is for SA to get injured or leave the team.

 
Warhogs said:
This may a bit thinking out of the box but to me LT2 seems like a buy low. A year ago you would have to trade your entire franchise for him. He is still expensive but it seems there has been quite a bit of movement of him this year. He could lead you to a couple more titles.
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I am not necessarily disagreeing, but I thought the same thing about Marshall Faulk just before be went into terminal decline, and made several terrible trades in various leagues in order to acquire him.
 
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