Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
Rice? C.Johnson? F.Jones? Or anyone else? Or is it a wait and see were everyone goes in the draft?
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So has anyone moved anyone else into the Top 3. (1 Viewer)
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Holland Freeze
Footballguy
Draft and preseason.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Unless one of these guys does something stupid that makes the news in the next month, all is known that will be known prior to the draft. Now it's just waiting to see where they end up, so until then we're flying in a holding pattern. No reason to drop any of the three below anyone else IMO.
As for Stewart's toe surgery, as I said in one of my league's message boards, it's a non-factor for me. A dynasty league is a marathon, and I'm not going to let the first 100 yards affect my decision.
As for Stewart's toe surgery, as I said in one of my league's message boards, it's a non-factor for me. A dynasty league is a marathon, and I'm not going to let the first 100 yards affect my decision.
JPeso
Footballguy
Correct, but it could be a factor in where he lands in the NFL Draft.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rd
Edited to add, they do need someone other than Kieth. He sucks ying yang.
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Rodeojones
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happy_donut
Footballguy
If you mean that he could fall into a better situation and move up the FF draft board then I am in complete agreement. "Could" being the operative word here.
Chachi
Footballguy
Keith 4.4 avgAddai 4.1 avgSo does addai suck ying yang too?I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rdEdited to add, they do need someone other than Kieth. He sucks ying yang.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I watched every Colts game (homer that I am), and yes, Keith sucks. You will find out on draft day how the Colts feel about Keith. With your ypc example, they are different types of samples. Also, Keith CANNOT pass protect, and he failed as a receiver out of the backfield.Keith 4.4 avgAddai 4.1 avgSo does addai suck ying yang too?I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rd
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
The Colts have these guys named Dungy and Polian -- you might have heard of them -- and it's funny, but they apparently look a little deeper than one single little statistic when making their decisions. Those crazy guys don't think Keith is better than Addai. I wonder what's wrong with them? Anyway, maybe there's a bit more to player evaluation than quoting a statistic. They have said they will be looking to upgrade the backup RB position, so maybe you can either accept that or email Polian your 4.4 vs 4.1 and he can let you draft for him.Chachi said:Keith 4.4 avgAddai 4.1 avgSo does addai suck ying yang too?JohnnyU said:I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rdJPeso said:Edited to add, they do need someone other than Kieth. He sucks ying yang.
428143
Footballguy
Any RB with two working legs could average 4 ypc in the Colts system...Chachi said:Keith 4.4 avgAddai 4.1 avgSo does addai suck ying yang too?JohnnyU said:I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rdJPeso said:Edited to add, they do need someone other than Kieth. He sucks ying yang.
Chachi
Footballguy
While your sarcasm is appreciated, i was trying to make a point and you guys made it for me. A simple stat like YPC does not make a RB a great player. You'd be shocked at how many D. Willy owners think that YPC= everything and nothing else matters. Thanks for proving my point.The Colts have these guys named Dungy and Polian -- you might have heard of them -- and it's funny, but they apparently look a little deeper than one single little statistic when making their decisions. Those crazy guys don't think Keith is better than Addai. I wonder what's wrong with them? Anyway, maybe there's a bit more to player evaluation than quoting a statistic. They have said they will be looking to upgrade the backup RB position, so maybe you can either accept that or email Polian your 4.4 vs 4.1 and he can let you draft for him.Chachi said:Keith 4.4 avgAddai 4.1 avgSo does addai suck ying yang too?JohnnyU said:I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rdJPeso said:
Brewzers
Footballguy
Not sure about draft day, but Kenton Keith was an embarrassment trying to catch the ball. He dropped some very crucial 3rd down passes in key situations last year. I think this is accurate in that Keith won't be the #2 RB or 3rd down option next year.JohnnyU said:I watched every Colts game (homer that I am), and yes, Keith sucks. You will find out on draft day how the Colts feel about Keith. With your ypc example, they are different types of samples. Also, Keith CANNOT pass protect, and he failed as a receiver out of the backfield.Chachi said:Keith 4.4 avgAddai 4.1 avgSo does addai suck ying yang too?JohnnyU said:I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rdJPeso said:Edited to add, they do need someone other than Kieth. He sucks ying yang.
jgb95
Footballguy
i'm possibly looking to draft Chris Long with the 1.01 if I can't trade out of it.
DE's in my league are very tough to get.
We can only start 1 rb and I currently have:
LJ
Ronnie Brown
Ryan Grant
Michael Bush
I'm trying to trade the 1.01 and Michael Bush to a team that wants McFadden if he goes to OAK!
I'm waiting till after the draft of course.
DE's in my league are very tough to get.
We can only start 1 rb and I currently have:
LJ
Ronnie Brown
Ryan Grant
Michael Bush
I'm trying to trade the 1.01 and Michael Bush to a team that wants McFadden if he goes to OAK!
I'm waiting till after the draft of course.
Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
Agree it's a marathon. You think over the course of 5 years, Stewart will be one of the top 3 at that point? When Dixon went down Stewart did not step up. So you like the top 3 and believe they will be the best 3 in five years from now? To be honest I think Mendenhall may also not be in the top 3 in 5 years as well. One very good year. Vision is poor, but yes He has that NFL Body.Couch Potato said:
So why do you like Stewart, maybe you can talk me into liking Him.
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Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
It's there because, I stand by my rankings, if you noticy Everyone after the Combine has changed there's. Everyone that is but Me.Rodeojones said:
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Interesting league. I'd have a hard time going that route in any league.But in a 2 QB system, I might consider Ryan over Stewert, depends on the team.
saintfool
Dead sexy
that's a gross exaggeration. you should try to actually look at his numbers...Agree it's a marathon. You think over the course of 5 years, Stewart will be one of the top 3 at that point? When Dixon went down Stewart did not step up. So you like the top 3 and believe they will be the best 3 in five years from now? To be honest I think Mendenhall may also not be in the top 3 in 5 years as well. One very good year. Vision is poor, but yes He has that NFL Body.So why do you like Stewart, maybe you can talk me into liking Him.
2007 RY YPC TDSep 01 67 4.8 0 Sep 08 111 7.4 1 Sep 15 165 9.7 2 Sep 22 160 8.4 1 Sep 29 120 5.7 1 Oct 13 66 5.1 0 Oct 20 251 7.8 2 Oct 27 103 4.1 2 Nov 03 99 4.7 1 Nov 15 131 4.7 0 Nov 24 33 2.5 0 Dec 01 163 4.2 0Dec 31 253 11 1He had one bad game against UCLA and another in a laugher against WashSt where Oregon won 53-7. His entire season - with or without Dixon - was impressive.I know you're not high on him but you're killing your credibility with borderline slander like this.
EBF
Footballguy
Dennis Dixon didn't make Jonathan Stewart. Dennis Dixon wasn't even a good QB until last season.
As for the original question, I'd consider Ray Rice or Chris Johnson in the top 3 depending on how the draft shakes out. It's going to be difficult to pass on McFadden/Stewart/Mendenhall though. It's sort of like a Gore vs. Benson/Caddy/Ronnie redux. One of the less heralded runners might emerge as the best RB from the class, but do you really have the stones to take him over the first round guys? And is that really a smart move from an odds perspective?
As for the original question, I'd consider Ray Rice or Chris Johnson in the top 3 depending on how the draft shakes out. It's going to be difficult to pass on McFadden/Stewart/Mendenhall though. It's sort of like a Gore vs. Benson/Caddy/Ronnie redux. One of the less heralded runners might emerge as the best RB from the class, but do you really have the stones to take him over the first round guys? And is that really a smart move from an odds perspective?
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Chaos Commish
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Oregon struggled without Dixon and the loss of Jeremiah Johnson, Paysinger and Colvin didn't help, but Stewart was a stud for them. He put the team on his shoulders and played very well under difficult circumstances. As someone who's seen most of his games, this was his most impressive season by a mile and the more they depended on him, the more he impressed me regardless of stats. His last game was pretty nice from a stats perspective though.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
It's not completely out of the question. He brings a speed dimension that Mendenhall and Stewart don't offer, so there are probably some teams in the league who like him more than those guys. Consider a team like Dallas. Stewart and Mendenhall wouldn't play much for them, but Johnson could be a real contributor since he can do a lot of things Barber can't. It would make sense for a team like that to have Johnson higher on their board. If one of the top three falls a bit (Stewart maybe?) then I could see Johnson being selected ahead of him. Individual teams have their own individual taste. I didn't anticipate Cedric Benson going ahead of Cadillac Williams or Chris Perry going ahead of Kevin Jones. A lot of people were surprised by Laurence Maroney going before DeAngelo Williams (I saw that one coming). There are always a few curveballs on draft day. I suspect Johnson's stock is higher than most pundits realize. Whether he's a top 25 or a top 50 pick remains to be seen though. I can see him going anywhere in that range.
switz
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Sometimes stats lie.Keith 4.4 avgAddai 4.1 avgSo does addai suck ying yang too?I saw a mock draft somewhere that has the Colts taking Johnson in the 2nd rdEdited to add, they do need someone other than Kieth. He sucks ying yang.
