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#1 timschochet

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 04:35 AM

Valence

Head Coach Chuck Noll

Quarterback Steve Young
Running Back Emmitt Smith
Running Back Lorenzo Neal
Wide Receiver Jerry Rice
Wide Receiver Cris Carter
Tight End Shannon Sharpe
Offensive Tackle Gary Zimmerman
Offensive Tackle Jackie Slater
Center Kevin Mawae
Offensive Guard Russ Grimm
Offensive Guard Erik Williams

Defensive End Richard Dent
Defensive End Ed Jones
Defensive Tackle Houston Antwine
Defensive Tackle Cortez Kennedy
Linebacker Mike Singletary
Linebacker Nick Buonicotti
Linebacker Pat Swilling
Safety Deron Cherry
Safety Nolan Cromwell
Cornerback Lemar Parish
Cornerback Cornell Green
Kicker David Akers
Punter Todd Sauerbraun, P
Return Specialist Desmond Howard


"Superbad" Big_Russel

Head Coach Bill Parcells

Quarterback Peyton Manning
Running Back Marshall Faulk
Running Back Corey Dillon
Wide Receiver Randy Moss
Wide Receiver Tim Brown
Tight End Ben Coates
Offensive Tackle Walter Jones
Offensive Tackle Willie Anderson
Center Bart Oates
Offensive Guard Will Shields
Offensive Guard Stan Jones

Defensive End Lyle Alzado
Defensive End Ray Childress
Defensive Tackle Ted Washington
Linebacker Zach Thomas
Linebacker Lawrence Taylor
Linebacker Ray Lewis
Linebacker Kevin Greene
Safety Steve Atwater
Safety Darren Woodson
Cornerback Emmitt Thomas
Cornerback Dick LeBeau

Kicker Gino Cappelletti
Punter Bill Dudley
Return Specialist Bryan Westbrook

Unless otherwise stated, any comment or statement I make is strictly MY OPINION, and should not be taken as an implication of fact, no matter how definitive it sounds. I speak for no one but myself.



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Posted 09 May 2008 - 04:38 AM

OK, here it is, the championship! We started this draft back in February, and it's been a whole lot of fun. These two excellent teams have been given the most love by the FFA. Neither team has really even had a struggle getting here, decisively beating every opponent. Now the final test- which is the best football team of all time? Your opinions are welcome!
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 04:49 AM

Both teams are stacked and deserve their spots in the championship. I want to hear from some of the more knowledgeable posters before I vote.

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 05:35 AM

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 05:53 AM

Big Russ's team write up...


The Systems & Coach: Bill Parcells Erdhart/Perkins Offense – Fairbanks/Bullough 3-4 Defense


When I first threw my hat into the rink, I did so with the idea that I would build the best possible team I could to be productive in the type of system that I felt would be most effective vs. a field of all time greats. Considering the amount of talent on both sides of the ball, the system’s are (in my opinion) what will separate these teams the most. It’s simply not enough to collect the most talented or highly decorated players available at their position, because it is almost a given that the player lined up on the other side will be equally capable of beating his counterpart on any given play.

This is especially true in the trenches where “irresistible forces” will be meeting “immovable objects” on every single snap. It is for this reason that I immediately decided to roll with a base 3-4 defense. This would allow me to create certain mismatches that 4-down lineman would just not be capable of (not against these O-lines). The biggest of which being the ability to disguise where the pressure is coming from on passing downs. It is extremely frustrating for blockers and opposing QB’s, when they don’t know where the heat is going to come from (or if it is even coming at all). It creates the type of confusion which will force the less cerebral quarterbacks into making bad decisions; the kind that they will almost always pay a steep price for against this level of talent.

Another perk of playing with four upright (most of the time), is the ability to take advantage of the speed, athleticism, and overall versatility of my linebackers. Blocking a guy straight up from a 3-point stance is one thing, but identifying and picking up the blitz of an all time great line backer (or DB) is something completely different. For as big, strong, and nasty as some of these offensive linemen are, they are simply not fast nor athletic enough to negate the rush of all time great linebackers, as consistently as they will when their man is face up on them.

Not only does the 3-4 give my line backers an advantage against the pass, I also feel that under these conditions, it provides them (and my DB’s) with the ability to more quickly identify where the run is going, allowing them to use their speed and athleticism to meet the ball carrier in the hole.

In order for me to capitalize on some of the advantages that a good 3-4 defense can create in this setting, I knew that I was going to need the right coach to orchestrate it. For me, that meant one of two people, Bill Parcells or Bill Belichick. Both of whom have run modified versions of my preferred 3-4 which is commonly referred to as the “Fairbanks-Bullough” or more recently the “Hybrid 3-4” system with a great deal of success in the NFL. Parcells was first exposed to the system as the linebacker coach for New England in 1980 under HC Ron Erhardt, and would make further innovations to it later as DC and (eventually) 2x SB winning HC of the NYG. At its heart, Parcells version (of the 3-4) is a 2-Gap system; though he did refine it with the help of then DC Bill Belichick and began to use a mix of both 1 and 2 gap alignments. This mix of alignments (and use of versatile OLB’s who possess the ability to play up or with a hand down), has helped earn it the above mentioned “Hybrid” nickname that is often associated with the current day New England Patriots. In a 2-Gap system the 3 down linemen are asked to cover the gaps on both sides of the opposing offensive lineman to allow the linebackers to make plays behind them. Specifically pass rushing OLB’s. The 2-Gap 3-4 also allows the team to more easily drop extra guys into coverage. The 1-Gap alignments create different (sometimes more effective) advantages for the ILB’s, as the down lineman are more likely to suck in the guards, allowing them (the LB’s) to close in on the ball carrier with less resistance from the guards. I will spare you all more yawn provoking specifics on of the differences between 1 and 2 gap alignments, and just ask you to assume that my team will be playing a little bit of both.

On the offensive side of the ball, my team will be running a modern day version of the Erhardt/Perkins system. I want to emphasize the “modern day version” a little bit, because traditionally, this system is regarded as a “smash mouth” (ball control) offense. While the basic principle of running to set up the pass will still apply, the personnel I have assembled will definitely allow for a more dynamic and open passing attack. Particularly in regards to the HB screen, which some (including myself) consider to be an extension of the run game in this system (think Dave Meggett for NYG/NE, then later Curtis Martin for NE/NYJ and even Antoine Smith for NE in ’01-’03).

You can expect a very balanced attack on offense, a good mix of power running, screens, and quick outs/slants; will be used to set up the play action down field. Opponents will be forced to pick their poison as I have the right weapons in place to make you pay deep, once a mismatch presents itself. My quarterback will have free reign to audible at the LOS, if he identifies those potential mismatches.

Parcells is a master motivator with a long reputation of turning franchises around in a relatively short period of time. He is a 2x SB winner and universally recognized as one of the best HC’s in the history of the NFL. His basic philosophies have been passed down with an extraordinary amount of success to coaches who were groomed under him, including (but not limited to) Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin, Sean Payton, Romeo Crennel, Tony Sparano, Al Groh, and Charlie Weiss.

The Signal Caller

QB- Peyton Manning 6’5 230lbs

Manning has all the tools needed to be considered among the best QB's of all time. 6'5, "laser-rocket arm", great accuracy (64.2%), toughness (160 consecutive starts), and (most importantly) football smarts. Manning is a field general who can read defenses as fast (if not faster) than most coaches in the league, an invaluable attribute at the QB position. His only two rivals in that department are Tom Brady and Steve Young. His pure passing ability is a thing of beauty. With weapons like Randy Moss and Tim Brown at his disposal, the aerial assault he would be capable of inflicting on opposing secondaries would be nothing short of lethal.

Some people may claim that Manning is not as “clutch” as some other of the all time greats, but I would counter that argument by pointing out that in the most notable games which Manning has came up short (in his quest for a SB), he was facing the exact same defense that he is now teamed with. I think that it is fair to assume Manning would undoubtedly benefit from being exposed to this style of defense on a day to day basis, and eventually learn how to counter it masterfully. Much like he was able to do in recent years with just a basic familiarity of it.

This style of offense will also no doubt benefit him when it matters the most, as he will not be called on to carry the team by trying to force the ball down field, but instead adapt to start taking more of what the defense gives him (which to his credit he has done on his own the last couple of seasons). Playing in a run first offense will help to relieve some of the pressure that has hampered him in the past, as it will teach him to capitalize big only when the opportunity presents itself.

306 Career TD's
41,626 Passing yrds
Career Rating of 94.7
8x Pro Bowler (1x Pro Bowl MVP)
6x All Pro
2x MVP
1X SB MVP

The Offensive line

If there is one area of my team that I deserve criticism for favoring modern day players, the offensive line is it. With a few exceptions, I just had a hard time passing up the qualities that modern day lineman bring to the table, in favor of a guy who may have been just as great a player, but weighed 100lbs less and was 6 inches shorter. All else being equal, I am going to take the bigger stronger man every time. While I understand that you can’t deduct a guy for his lack of size (based on the era he played in), you also shouldn’t deduct a guy for being too big and strong. It is part of what makes them so great at their position. With a run first offense, and a pure pocket passer like Manning, I will sleep easier knowing that I have these monsters up front blocking for me.

Left Tackle- Walter Jones 6’5 315lbs

Jones is universally considered one of the greatest Offensive Lineman in the history of the NFL. He is everything you could ask for in a stud Left Tackle and more. With great size, tremendous foot speed, excellent hands, and his ability to use angles, Jones can do it all. His size enables him to swallow up blockers who attack him head-on, and his agility allows him to handle the speed rushers who try to beat him to the outside. In the run game, Jones can get up field and make his block as good as anyone who has ever played the position. Usually a tackle is either considered a run-blocker or a pass-blocker, but Jones is an all time great at both. He has been labeled in his career as the single best player in the game at any position. Jones will do an excellent job of keeping Peyton’s jersey clean, and giving him the time he needs to find the open man.

Left Guard Stan Jones 6’1 260lbs

Jones was an exceptionally strong and athletic player, who played at an all pro level on both sides of the ball. A tenacious pass blocker and one of the most respected pulling guards of his era. Jones was disciplined, durable, and extremely intelligent. He was the first athlete of note to lift weights in order to hone his body into playing condition. Weight lifting was not in vogue in the 1950s and many cautioned Stan that he was taking a career-threatening risk with his weight-lifting. They warned him that he might become muscle-bound and lose his mobility if he continued the practice. Jones, however, had been a disciple of weight-lifting too long to listen to what anyone said. As a result, he was named to seven consecutive Pro Bowls from 1955-1961, and erned himself a place in the HOF. Despite a host of standout guards in the NFL at the time, he was selected first- or second-team "All-NFL" by major wire services more times than any other at his position in the late 1950s and early 1960s. He was a first-team all NFL pick in 1955, 1956, 1959, and 1960 and second all-NFL in 1957 and 1961. Jones would later credit his magnificent conditioning for helping him to never miss a game to injury in 22 years of organized football. With Jones as one of the key blockers, the 1958 Bears averaged 30 points per game, 206 yards per game on the ground, and scored a remarkable 22 rushing touchdowns in just a 12-game season. Jones athleticism is ideal for getting up field and making blocks against 3-4 linebackers, and his sheer strength and (all pro) experience as a DT will allow him to easily keep 4-3 tackles in check.

Center- Bart Oates 6’4 275lbs

A 5x Pro Bowler despite not beginning his NFL career until age 27, Bart Oates is one of the few players in NFL history to have played in and won three Super Bowls. He also won two additional championships with the Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars of the USFL (a team that Oates thought very highly of). As an All-Pro center for the New York Giants and San Francisco 49ers, Oates (like his fellow line mates) has had plenty of experience in both run and pass blocking. His versatility didn’t stop on the field. While starring on the NY Giants championship teams of 1986 and 1990, he was also attending Seton hall Law School (from which he graduated with a law degree in ‘90). Oates also won the Giants Offensive Team MVP award that season. He was a perennial All-Pro and is one of the few players in history to never miss a game in his entire NFL career. His work ethic is second to none, making him a perfect match for fellow work alcoholic Peyton Manning. These guys will have no trouble getting in sync with one another. His size, strength, and football intelligence translate well into any scheme, and hold up against any level of competition.

Right Guard- Will Shields 6’3 315lbs

Shields is a 12x Pro Bowler who played his entire career at Right Guard. He was equally dominant as a run and pass blocker, with five 1000yrd rushers and (a remarkable) five 4,000 yard passers under his wing. In 14 seasons, Shields has never missed a game, and has failed to start in only one contest (his first regular-season outing, as a rookie in 1993). He is one of only four NFL players since the merger in 1970 to start more than 200 straight games. His 224 regular-season games are more than any of the seven modern-era guards currently in the Hall of Fame. In addition to his wonderful play on the field, Shields is also regarded as one of the most high character players in league history. He is considered by most to be a first ballot HOF, and one of the best Right Guards to have ever played the game.

Right Tackle- Willie Anderson 6’5 340lbs

The humble, low-profile leader of the Bungles played all but one season of his career at Right Tackle. Widely considered the best RT in the game during his prime, Anderson is excellent in pass protection and even better in run support. Like Shields, Anderson is also held in high regard for his great character on and off the field (a runner up for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award). Anderson anchors down the right side with size, speed, and excellent footwork. He was one of the few bright spots on some otherwise lowly Cincinnati teams from the mid 90’s through the early ‘00’s. He helped pave the way for multiple 1000yrd + rushers, on some pretty woeful teams. With some talent around him, sky is the limit for Big Willie.

The Backfield

RB- Marshall Faulk 5’10 211lbs

One of the most effectively versatile backs in the history of the NFL, Faulk provides my team with the ultimate offensive weapon. A Quarterback’s brain in a Running Back’s body, with the skill set of a modern day slot receiver. Faulk may have had the fastest feet of any RB I have ever seen. Power-speed-elusiveness-vision-great blocking skills; he could do it all. Marshall was versatility at its finest; without a doubt, one of the very best to ever do it. His value as a pass catcher out of the backfield is immeasurable against teams who are able to shut down my traditional power running game. Faulk is a 7x Pro Bowler racking up 6,875 receiving yards and 58-TD’s to go along with his 12,279yrds and 100TD’s on the ground. Quite simply, he was ridiculous.

RB: Corey Dillon 6’1 230lbs

“Clock Killin” Corey Dillon shoulders the power work in this offense. Dillon was 230lbs of raw power and speed, with the ability to run you over or bounce it outside and take it 70yrds to the house. Though he doesn’t get nearly as much credit as he deserves from the media, Dillon was one of the best pure running backs of his era. He had a rare combination of size, speed, power, and elusiveness; very similar (imo) to Bo Jackson. He collected an impressive 11,241 rushing yards and 82 rushing TD’s, despite playing most of his career on some very porous teams.

The Receiving Core

WR- Randy Moss 6’4 215lbs

Moss is the greatest deep threat wide receiver in the history of the NFL, and it’s not even close (as far as I am concerned). Six foot forever, great leaping ability/body control, 4.2 speed, tremendous hands, and is as agile as a cat. He is the most physically gifted WR I have ever seen, and commands safety help on every snap. Even in a league of all time greats, single coverage on Moss can spell disaster for an opposing defense on any given play. If he gets behind the coverage, it’s six every time with Manning throwing him the ball.

WR- Tim Brown 6’1 195lbs


One of the most low profile great receivers in the history of the game, Brown ranks 2nd in NFL history for total yards gained. An excellent route runner with great speed and tremendous hands, only four players in the history of the league have ever scored more touchdowns than him. Maybe the most impressive thing about these accomplishments, is that he did it despite not having a QB that was worth a damn throwing the ball to him. Brown was also the first wide receiver ever to win a Heisman Trophy when he played at Notre Dame University. As a member of the L.A/Oakland Raiders, he set the rookie record for the most combined yards gained, with 2,317 in 1988. He holds a numerous team records for the Raiders, including 100 touchdowns (99 receiving), receiving (14,734 yards, 1,070 receptions, 13.7 yards per catch), and punt return (3,272 yards, 320 punt returns, a 10.2 yard per return average). His toughness, durability, and willingness to make plays over the middle of the field make him a great compliment to Randy Moss. With a stud QB throwing him the ball, Brown has ridiculous upside in this format.

TE: Ben Coates 6’5 245lbs

At 6’5 245lbs, Coates was big enough to outmuscle Defensive Ends and fast enough to outrun Linebackers. With his exceptional blocking ability and tremendous pass catching skills, Coates was the whole package at TE. Playing in the shadow of Shannon Sharpe, Coates quietly established him self as one of the leagues all time great receiving TE’s. The 5x Pro Bowler was a beast after the catch and as dangerous a target inside the RZ, as any TE to ever play the game. Coates was a true blocking TE, who finished his career with a remarkable 50 TD grabs (5 more than Kellen Winslow Sr.).

The Defensive Line:

RDE- Lyle Alzado 6’3 260lbs

It takes a certain type of player to hold down the DE spot in a 3-4 alignment, and Alzado fits the bill perfectly. His intense intimidating style fits in perfectly with my defensive unit. Alzado’s tenacity and strength allow him to crash the pocket, occupy multiple blockers, create disruption, and put pressure on the QB. He put together an excellent career, racking up close to 1,000 tackles, 112½ sacks and forcing 24 fumbles along the way. He also played in two Super Bowls winning one of them. Already recgonized as one of the most emotionally charged players in league history, pairing him natural motivaters like Lawrence Taylor and Ray Lewis would only serve to intesify his play. A scary thought for opposing blockers who need to be constantly mindful of LT streaking in behind him.

NT – Ted Washington 6’5 370lbs

There is big, there is really big and then there is Ted Washington. When I first came up with the image of my team in a 3-4 defense, the first player who jumped (belly flopped) into my mind was big Tedy Washington. I knew from go that he was going to be playing the nose for my team, even if it meant me having to reach for him. If you are going to attempt to play with 3 down lineman against a field of all time greats, you best make sure that the clog in the middle is one MASSIVE human being. Not only is Washington huge, but he is an outstanding football player. He attacks off the snap and sucks up blockers like milkshakes, commanding (at least) a double team on every single play. It is near impossible for any center to turn him man up so the guards can get free. Washington will allow Lewis and Thomas (two of the best run stopping ILB’s in the history of the league) to shoot the gaps and seal off entry into the second level. In his prime, there has never been a player better suited to do the job of a 2-gap NT than Mount Washington. As good a lane wreaker as there ever was.

LDE- Ray Childress 6’6 275lbs

Extremely versatile on the defensive line, Childress excelled as a Pro Bowl 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT. He is second (to Elvin Bethea) in Oilers/Titans franchise history with 74.5 sacks. A hard nosed competitor, Childress was a part of six teams that finished in the top 10 in total defense. He was the heart of a defense that led Houston to seven consecutive playoff appearances and at his pinnacle, he was one of the most dominant defensive linemen in NFL history. Childress also had an uncanny knack for making big plays, as evidenced by his amazing 7 fumble recoveries as a 3-4 DE in 1988, two shy of the NFL single season record, including 3 against the Redskins in one game which tied the single game record . He would finish his career with an impressive 19. Equally stout against the run and pass, Childress is the ideal type of player for my team. He will have no problem holding open the back door for my linebackers and DB’s to tee off on the QB.

ROLB- Lawrence Taylor 6’3 237lbs

No explanation needed. You already know. And if you don’t, ya betta ask somebody!

RILB- Ray Lewis 6’1 245lbs

One of the most decorated and complete middle linebackers in the history of professional football, Lewis has career totals of 1,520 tackles, (1367 solo), 11 forced fumbles, 90 passes defended, 83 tackles for loss, 30 sacks, 13 fumble recoveries, and 25 interceptions in 162 games. Lewis has been selected to nine pro bowls and led the NFL in tackles 5x’s. In 2003, he led all linebackers with six interceptions, a total matching the all time record for a middle linebacker in a single season. Lewis was named 1st team AP All-Pro in the years 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2004 and 2nd team All-Pro in 1997 and 1998. His defenses were consistently ranked among the best in the league. In fact the Ravens did not allow a single 100 yard rusher in 51 consecutive games from the 1998 through 2001 season. He is one of only six recognized linebackers to have recorded twenty interceptions and sacks in his career. He became the quickest to achieve this in just 113 games and is the only player who played his entire career at middle linebacker to achieve it. In addition to his unbelievable play, Lewis is widely regarded as one of greatest emotional leaders in the history of team sports. This will only help fuel the intimidating style of play of his already emotionally charged teammates (like Lawrence Taylor and Lyle Alzado).

LILB- Zach Thomas 5’11 230lbs


Everything you want in a great middle linebacker. Fast, tough, hard working, and savvy. A run stopping machine, with 17 picks, and 19.5 sacks. Thomas was selected to 7 Pro Bowls, which is the most of any defensive player in Dolphin franchise history. He has also been selected First and Second Team All-Pro seven times. Thomas has more tackles than any linebacker in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, currently ranking fourth all-time behind Randy Gradishar, Jessie Tuggle and Junior Seau.

LOLB- Kevin Greene 6’3 240lbs

A 5x Pro Bowler who leads all NFL linebackers in career sacks; ahead of players like Lawrence Taylor, Derrick Thomas, Rickey Jackson, and Andre Tippett. He is one of only 4 players to lead the NFL in sacks in multiple seasons ('94 with the Steelers and '96 with the Panthers). Greene is also ranked third all time in fumble recoveries with 26, which he returned for 136 yards and 2 touchdowns. He described his aggressive style of going after fumbles as "a hog going after a sweet potato in the mud”. He is one of three players to record 10 sacks a year for 10+ years. Greene averaged over 10 sacks a year for 15 seasons.While Greene’s true value is as a pass rushing OLB, he is versitile enough to play DE in 4-3 formations. Greene and Taylor combine to form one of the most fierce pair of pass rushing LB’s to ever take the field.

Secondary

FS- Steve Atwater 6’3 218lbs (of pain)

Steve Atwater was the kind of player responsible for receivers developing alligator arms over the middle of the field. While Ronnie Lott ruled the NFC, it was Atwater who was the king of the hitters the AFC, putting fear in the hearts (and hands) of receivers and running backs across the league. Just ask “The Nigerian Nightmare” Christian Okoye, who felt Atwater's wrath in front of millions on Monday Night Football and was never again the same player. Atwater was a free safety who hit like a runaway train. He won two Super Bowls with the Broncos while helping revolutionize the way his position is played (lining up so close to the LOS). He was an 8x Pro Bowler and is celebrated both for his play as well as his leadership. Atwater was the captain of the Broncos defense for both Super Bowl winning teams in ‘97 and ‘98. For the majority of his career, Atwater was used by Denver much like a linebacker as an 8th defender to stop the run. His impact on opposing offense's run games can best be described by the following statistic: prior to his arrival in 1988, Denver's defense was ranked next to last in rushing defense in surrendering 2538 yards that year and a league worst 4.6 yard average. In 1989, Steve's first year, Denver's defense jumped 20 places to tie for 7th against the run by surrendering a mere 1580 yards (almost 1000 yards better) and also tied for 3rd best with a 3.7 yard average. Over a 10 year Bronco career, Atwater totalled an astounding 1,301 tackles. He was named to the NFL's All Decade Team of the ‘90’s.

SS- Darren Woodson 6’1 220lbs

During his 12 seasons for the Cowboys, Woodson has gone to 5 Pro Bowls, won 3 Super Bowl rings, and finished his career as the Cowboys all time leading tackler with 1,350 (better than the totals of Hall of Fame safeties Ronnie Lott, Kenny Houston, Paul Krause, Larry Wilson, and Willie Wood). Woodson also collected 23 ints and 11 sacks along the way. He was a feared hitter with the much underrated ability to cover the slot receiver man to man. This is going to sound crazy, but I honestly believe that Woodson sometimes gets over looked because of his last name. Playing at the same time as another famous (HOF) DB of the same last name always made Darren “the other” Woodson by default. None the less he was a great player, and arguably the most unsung safety in league history. His snub form the all decade team of the ‘90’s was inexplicable.

LCB- Dick LeBeau 6’1 185lbs

This is without a doubt the pick that I am most proud of. Dick LeBeau is the GODFATHER of ball hawking. He was (is) a defensive mastermind, with an uncanny ability to read offenses and break on the football better than just about any corner in the history of the game. His staggering 62 career interceptions were NOT made by accident. LeBeau was tall, fast, and at times seemed to know where the throw was going even before the QB did. He was one of the best CBs in league history when it came to baiting Quarterbacks into making bad decisions. LeBeau also holds the NFL record for consecutive game appearances for a cornerback with 171, and recovered 9 fumbles, returning them for 53 yards and a touchdown. LeBeau was a HOF player, and probably deserves to be there as much as any other candidate who has slipped through the cracks over the years.

RCB- Emmitt Thomas 6’2 192lbs

One of the finest cover cornerbacks of his era, Thomas had the size, speed and skill to match some of the best WR’s of today. He owns the Chiefs all-time interception record with 58. That total places him ninth on the NFL’s all-time list and ranks fourth in NFL history among pure cornerbacks. A member of the Chiefs Hall of Fame, Thomas was named to four Pro Bowls and one AFL All-Star team .A true stud shut down corner, Thomas led the AFL in interceptions with nine in 1969 and the NFL with 12 in 1974. He intercepted five more passes in the postseason, including one in each game of the 1969 playoffs when the Chiefs captured their only Super Bowl. Thomas’s outstanding career at corner was finally rewarded when he was enshrined into the Pro-Football Hall of Fame with the 2008 class.

Special Teams

Punter – Bill Dudley 5’10 182lbs

There wasn't anything Dudley couldn't do with the football. The 5-10, 182-pound Hall of Famer played halfback, passed, punted, and placekicked. He also returned punts and kickoffs, caught passes, and he was a deadly defender. The 1946 season was, for Dudley, one for the record book; as he led the league in rushing, punt returns, interceptions, and lateral passes attempted. Never before had an NFL player led the league in four distinctly different statistical categories, and it’s not likely to happen again anytime soon. Naturally, Bill was named the NFL’s Most Valuable Player that year. Not too shabby for my Punter. You can have your candy ### specialist; I will take the football player every time.

Kicker – Gino Cappelletti 6’0 190lbs

Cappelletti led the AFL in scoring five times and had two of the top five scoring seasons in pro football history – 155 points in 1964 and 147 points in 1961 (14-game seasons). Nicknamed the "Duke", he is the all-time leading scorer in AFL history. Cappelletti is among the AFL's all-time top ten receivers, in yards and in receptions. Cappelletti has attempted more field goals (334) than any other player in team history, and is also the Patriots' third all-time leading receiver with 292 catches for 4,589 yards. During his pro career, he also returned punts and kickoffs, played defensive back, and even had one pass completion, for a touchdown. Cappelletti was the American Football League's Most Valuable Player in 1964, and a five-time AFL All-Star. He is one of only twenty players who were in the American Football League for its entire ten-year existence, and one of three who played in every game their teams played in the AFL. He is a member of the Patriots All-1960s (AFL) Team. Cappelletti is the Patriots' second all-time leading scorer with 1,130 points (42 TDs, 176 FGs and 342 PATs).

Return Specialist- Brian Westbrook 5’8 200lbs

Westy is a dynamo in open space with the ball in his hands. He is playmaker with the ability to take it to the house on every return. He has a solid career average of 12.5 yrds ppr, and 21.2yrds per return on kick-off’s.

White people haven't been this terrified since NWA put out their first album.


You can actually feel them shaking in their Dockers.



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Posted 09 May 2008 - 09:59 AM

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 02:40 PM

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 03:17 PM

OK, I've bumped this several times, and I'm tired of it, and the winner seems obvious at this point anyway. So congratulations to


BigRussel

:clap: :clap: :pickle: :pickle: :moneybag: :moneybag: :jawdrop: :thumbup:

You win the grand prize which is.....

















nothing. But congratulations anyway! Excellent job putting your team together.

Edited by timschochet, 09 May 2008 - 03:18 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 03:20 PM

Valence never should have gotten past larry-boy. LB had the only secondary capable of negating BR's passing game.
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 04:39 PM

Yesssssssssssss!!!!! :excited: :unsure:


In all seriousness, this was a lot of fun. The draft was awesome. All of the teams were well constructed, and any game could have gone either way.

Tim the time you put in was impressive to say the least. Great job of sticking with this thing all the way through!! :football:
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