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Unrepentant Packer fan and Favre fan here. Teared up during Favre's retirement presser. But talk that Brett is pushing his way back to playing again is crazy. I'm in favor of bringing some value back to the franchise (in exchange for the distraction) and giving Favre a chance to play again. It isn't so bad... Montana was a Chief, right?

Trade Favre.

Peter King link below:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...avre/index.html

 
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I agree they should either trade or release him if he requests it.

For what it is worth, without a totla hijacking that T.T. had been smiling to the media all the while hoping/pushing Favre to retire. So he did, but not really when he was ready to.

Edited to note that I really think only Favre is to "blame" if this turns into the mess it looks like. Favre retiring prematurely may be shared by T.T. , Favre not sticking to retirement does put the Packers in a bad position and is on him alone.

 
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I wonder what Favre would be worth to teams with aspirations if their front line Q.B. went down during training camp. If Brady, Manning, Romo, Hasselbach, Brees go down he will be getting inquires.

 
I like Brett Favre. Not a Packers fan, but I think he's been great for the game, and has been impressive over the years. However, this whole drama is just ridiculous. In my view, Favre can do whatever he wants, but it's extremely selfish of him. He needs to stay retired. Don't tarnish the legacy. No one can see him in another team's uniform. It would almost be blasphemy to even suggest it.

The one person who should be completely ticked off, and rightfully so, is Aaron Rodgers. If Favre comes back and they don't trade him, and he expects to step right back in there and start, I'd demand a trade. This is where my "Favre is being selfish" comes into play. He had a great run. He finally decided to hang it up. The Packers and their fans have moved on. Rodgers has been there, sitting behind arguably the greatest QB of all time for three seasons now. He's finally being given the opportunity to start and show what he's got. Now this? Again, I would demand a trade if Favre comes back and isn't released/traded. Rodgers isn't getting any younger. Sure, he's still young, but he's had years now wasted away sitting behind someone else. Years he could have possibly been starting elsewhere.

I know it's hard for players to move on. They haven't really known anything else. A lot of them don't know what to do with themselves in retirement. Not everyone has a face/the knack for TV or radio. Favre doesn't strike me as a guy on the NFL Network. I CAN, and think he'd be spectacular at it, see him as a coach. What team out there wouldn't want Favre as a QB coach?! He could land a coaching gig pretty easily. It would help him with the transition into retirement. He's not completely out of football and sitting on his 400+ acre doing nothing in Mississippi. He's still in the thick of things. Just a different role...

But this? This is just sad. I see this situation like I did when Dan Marino kept dragging it out for years when he should have retired about 3-5 years earlier...

 
I am a big Packer fan. I bleed Green and Gold. Bring Brett back. Why. I would like to have a chance to maybe win a Super Bowl and he brings that. I dont blame him for getting the itch either. Really tough thing to retire and not to have second thoughts about it. Especially when it is talked about constantly in the media. In the end, I dont care if Rodgers feelings are hurt. I want another magical season like last year with hoping for a bit better final result. I dont know if Rodgers can provide this. Trade Rodgers is what I have thought about with Brohm now in the mix anyways. Could be get a 1st and 2nd for him. Just dont know. I know it is bad for Aaron who has been more than professional but as a Packer fan, I want the best chance to win and feel Brett provides this.

 
I think that Favre was wishing or hoping for a Roger Clemens or Michael Strahan situation. He mentioned or requested this to Packer leadership and they were not willing to agree to it so he chose retirement. Thus his retirement speech that he "knew he could still play", but the mental and physical trials of the long haul of the season wasn't worth it.

Almost immediately with Letterman and interviews, a lot of talk centered on what the retirement meant. Then later in the early summer, after he's missed a lot of those team workouts, he is feeling physically refreshed and he "knows he can still play". Puts the Packers in a no win situation.

I disagree with some that state that he is seeking the attention. I think that he really just wants to play and he's probably been grousing around quite a bit and now his family knows that would be the best for him. Only thing is that football (and particularly QB) more than pitchers and even defensive linemen, is a team game and his OL, RBs, TEs and WRs need all the preparation work with him to succeed.

Just a difficult situation for all of Packerland to endure for the next month or so. As a fan, part of me hopes that he does play this year just so I can watch him.

 
Theer are 12 million reasons the Packers won't bring Favre back in my opinion (money owed to Favre if he plays). They still have to pay Aaron Rodgers so paying Favre $12 million probably isn't the wisest use of the salary cap at all. As hard as it is moving away from someone of legend status, it's hard to fault Ted Thompson because the team, for the long haul will likely be better moving away from Favre now. That freed up cap space will help over the next couple of years, while Rodgers solidifies his role on the team. They can use that cap room to sign their studs to longer deals, etc. No, it's not win now philosophy, but the job of the GM is to build a team that will be good for a longtime.

This situation is similar to what San Diego faced with Brees and Rivers. You can argue they got rid of the wrong guy (and you possibly would be right), but it would be disingenuous to not see how good San Diego is now by freeing up the cap space and locking down key players. It's hard to tie up money on two QBs. and Favre at $12 million is a big rock around this franchise.

and even though Favre can still play, I don't think there will be any market for him as a free agent if he is released unless he takes a salary closer to $3-4 million a year. It's just too big of a distraction for a team to bring him on for just 1-2 years at most. When Favre retired, he quoted the mental preparation was more stressful than in the past. A new offense would be 10X this much work. Favre wants to also play for a contender, yet none have a QB opening.

Favre wants to play for the Pack again and I think when push comes to shove, only the Pack. Ted Thompson likely just wants this story to go away, but that probably won't happen either. It's a tough situation because I think the GM's vision will actually resuilt in a lot better team for more years. But it's hard not wanting the legend behind center if you are a fan of Green Bay or Brett Favre. Everyone knows he likely gives this team it's best chance to win THIS YEAR.

 
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This is a divisive issue for us fans. At some point Favre is going to retire. Last season I hoped he stuck it out for a few years but now think he should go to Atlanta(go full circle) or Tampa. I don't think he can handle the extreme cold anymore and don't begrudge him for wanting to play.

Ruin his legacy? :goodposting:

Why? He wants to play. Let him mentor Ryan. Or reunite with Gruden.

 
He's gotta go to Tampa. They are the only team with a chance to win that will allow him to step right in and play week 1.

 
as much i enjoyed watching him over the years he throws too many interceptions in playoffs .

he would hurt, not help the pack at this point imo

he seems like a good fit in san diego .

that said i do not think he comes back.....

 
David Dodds said:
Everyone knows he likely gives this team it's best chance to win THIS YEAR.
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I agree that Packers need to think about the future and that will not include Favre.But don't you think that the organization owes Favre something too? Specifically, to release him to play somewhere else if they don't want him to play for them?Is havng Favre as a back-up along with all the distractions worth more? Probably not.I say release him--he is owed the chance to play if that is what he wants. It is the right thing to do.
 
I would tell him if he wants to play, he can back up Rodgers. Period. Then see what he has to say. They need to move on. And they should not cave into his trade demands, if there are any.

 
I think having Favre on the bench as a back-up is EXACTLY the scenario they should avoid.

If Rodgers is their starter, and all signs say he is, the release Favre. If he signs somewhere else, so be it.

 
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I would tell him if he wants to play, he can back up Rodgers. Period. Then see what he has to say. They need to move on. And they should not cave into his trade demands, if there are any.
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That's quite a pragmatic way of solving the issue, but since Favre had one of his career best years including leading the team to the NFC Championship game, and carries a 12 million dollar price tag, he's a little overqualified to be a back up to a guy who's never won a game in his career.The only easy answer is a trade. Green Bay will be compensated a 4th round pick, maybe a third.
 
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I would tell him if he wants to play, he can back up Rodgers. Period. Then see what he has to say. They need to move on. And they should not cave into his trade demands, if there are any.
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They aren't trying to bust a union, they just have to make a roster decision.To me, the bottom line is: if a player doesn't want to play for my team, then he shouldn't be on my team.That said, if the rumors are true, Favre very much wants to play for the Packers. If that can't happen, he seems willing to look at other teams.The Packers should be in it to win championships, which I believe they are. If Favre gives them the best chance to do that (a decision they have to decide) then they should figure out a way to make that happen, in my opinion.
 
ookook said:
I agree they should either trade or release him if he requests it.For what it is worth, without a totla hijacking that T.T. had been smiling to the media all the while hoping/pushing Favre to retire. So he did, but not really when he was ready to.Edited to note that I really think only Favre is to "blame" if this turns into the mess it looks like. Favre retiring prematurely may be shared by T.T. , Favre not sticking to retirement does put the Packers in a bad position and is on him alone.
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I disagree...at this point...he retired...they owe hiom nothing as far as a release or trade...and i would not do it...especially releasing him...that would be a terrible football decision.
 
I think it is quite dangerous to think that a franchise 'owes' a player something, even under these circumstances. That is not to minimize his accomplishments, as he obviously made a huge contribution to the franchise, at least in the regular season if not the playoffs. However, as cliche as it sounds, the management and coaches have to do what they think is best for the team at this point. If they feel that it is best to proceed without him, and although the fans may disagree, then so be it.

Now we may disagree and think that it would be best for the team for him to slide ride back in to QB1, but I think that it would be horrendous if TT/MM caved to pressure and allow him to return even though may they privately or silently are against it. Therefore, I do not expect TT/MM to fold, as I think they know that fans and Hall of Fame QB's do not run teams. GM's and coaches do.

 
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ookook said:
I agree they should either trade or release him if he requests it.For what it is worth, without a totla hijacking that T.T. had been smiling to the media all the while hoping/pushing Favre to retire. So he did, but not really when he was ready to.Edited to note that I really think only Favre is to "blame" if this turns into the mess it looks like. Favre retiring prematurely may be shared by T.T. , Favre not sticking to retirement does put the Packers in a bad position and is on him alone.
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I disagree...at this point...he retired...they owe hiom nothing as far as a release or trade...and i would not do it...especially releasing him...that would be a terrible football decision.
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Its not that simple. McNair went through the same thing with the Titans. They either have to release him or let him play they cannot simply tell him to stay away and refuse to release to him.
 
I really think that they have to trade him if they can get something of value in return. If they aren't going to let him come back, they should trade him - not that they owe it to him, but at least they would be getting something instead of nothing. I really can't see him as anything else but a Packer, but for the Packers' best interests they have to explore the option.

 
This could get real ugly if the player's union comes into this- similar to McNair's situation. Favre may bully his way in. He hasn't filed his retirement papers, so he never officially retired... therefore he can make a decision to come back and the team should honor that (from the legal side of it).

Personally, I'm tired of it. I think if he wants to play, then trade him.

I like the idea of trading Rodgers (1 and 2 for him!? Are you serious!? They'd get a 3rd rounder, LUCKY to get a 2nd). I do like that idea though, trade Rodgers and let Favre tutor Brohm.

That won't happen though. TT is too proud to trade away his first ever 1st round draft pick in GB. He firmly believes in Rodgers and will stick with him.

There's 2 ways this will go:

1) Favre retires once and for all (finally), leaving open the possibility to return if Rodgers gets hurt

2) Favre fights this and gets the players union involved. Favre is then reinstated and traded. If it comes to this stage, the bridge between Favre and playing in GB will be burned, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there ever again. The Packers will not outright release him and risk him going to CHI or MIN (MIN would be most logical, best possibility to win now out of the Central division), so they will trade him. Probably to TB... I think they're running low on their quota of 8 QBs... but TB or CAR would make logical destinations for him.

Unfortunately I see this turning ugly. Favre has every right to come back (technically), but that window for an acceptable time frame of returning closed a long time ago... I wish they'd trade Rodgers, but I just don't see it

 
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I like the idea of trading Rodgers (1 and 2 for him!? Are you serious!? They'd get a 3rd rounder, LUCKY to get a 2nd). I do like that idea though, trade Rodgers and let Favre tutor Brohm.
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they could easily get a 2nd for him, and probably a 1st rounder for rogers. he was drafted in the late 1st and has had a few years to learn the game and all indications are that the packers believe in him, so i'm sure there are other teams that do. some team would pony up a 1st, i'd bet my life on it. he's as good or better prospect then any qb's coming out next year and he has experience.
 
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I think having Favre on the bench as a back-up is EXACTLY the scenario they should avoid.
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I agree. Every week there would be a new story about how Favre thinks he should be starting. Favre wouldn't come out and say it, of course. But he'd spend a lot of time in the media not saying it, and his mom would say it, and his "family sources" would say it, etc., etc., etc. It would undermine the team, the staring QB, and the decisions of the coaching staff.
 
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There's not going to be a trade. No team is going to want to pay that much money to a stopgap starter for a year or two.

I think if he does come back the Pack will cut him. They'll phrase it in the nicest possible way, about how much they appreciate his years of service and how they want to give him the opportunity to conclude his career in the location of his choice etc, but basically, they want to go with Rodgers now and this whole thing is a tedious distraction for them.

 
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I know it's hard for players to move on. They haven't really known anything else. A lot of them don't know what to do with themselves in retirement. Not everyone has a face/the knack for TV or radio. Favre doesn't strike me as a guy on the NFL Network. I CAN, and think he'd be spectacular at it, see him as a coach. What team out there wouldn't want Favre as a QB coach?! He could land a coaching gig pretty easily. It would help him with the transition into retirement. He's not completely out of football and sitting on his 400+ acre doing nothing in Mississippi. He's still in the thick of things. Just a different role...
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My only problem with this is the fact that sometimes great players have little tolerance for mistakes made by those who aren't as talented as they are/were. Think of Ted Williams trying to manage the old Washington Senators...it wasn't pretty.Perhaps BF would be different; I hope so.
 
simmonjm said:
sho nuff said:
ookook said:
I agree they should either trade or release him if he requests it.For what it is worth, without a totla hijacking that T.T. had been smiling to the media all the while hoping/pushing Favre to retire. So he did, but not really when he was ready to.Edited to note that I really think only Favre is to "blame" if this turns into the mess it looks like. Favre retiring prematurely may be shared by T.T. , Favre not sticking to retirement does put the Packers in a bad position and is on him alone.
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I disagree...at this point...he retired...they owe hiom nothing as far as a release or trade...and i would not do it...especially releasing him...that would be a terrible football decision.
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Its not that simple. McNair went through the same thing with the Titans. They either have to release him or let him play they cannot simply tell him to stay away and refuse to release to him.
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They don't have to "let him play". While he would be an overpriced backup...they can sit him behind Rodgers.McNair's issue is different...he was under contract and due a huge bonus (he was traded because they could not work out a deal to get rid of that bonus).
 
I'm kind of surprised by the people that think that the Packers could get a first round pick for Rodgers. After some talk of him going with the 1st pick overall, 23 teams passed on him in the first round. What has he done since then to make him worth a first round pick now? He seems to get hurt every time he gets in a game.

If Favre wants to come back, he should...and he should be the starting QB for the Packers. If he feels he's made a mistake by retiring, I think he's entitled. He wouldn't be the first athlete or coach to do it(how many times has Parcells retired?).

IMO, Favre gives GB the best chance to win NOW. They have the team NOW to make a run for the SB. TT would be a fool to let Favre go to another team and hand the reins over to an unproven, injury prone QB, when he has a chance to get Favre back. He should have been begging him to stay in the first place. If Rodgers chokes or gets hurt, the organization would never live it down. If all the talk of Favre possibly returning(or if he does in fact return) hurts Rodgers psyche, then he's not mentally tough enough to handle a starting QB position.

 
If Favre and Rodgers are both on the Packers roster entering training camp I'll be disappointed. If Brett comes back I hope TT can trade one of them away and move forward.

 
sho nuff said:
simmonjm said:
sho nuff said:
ookook said:
I agree they should either trade or release him if he requests it.For what it is worth, without a totla hijacking that T.T. had been smiling to the media all the while hoping/pushing Favre to retire. So he did, but not really when he was ready to.Edited to note that I really think only Favre is to "blame" if this turns into the mess it looks like. Favre retiring prematurely may be shared by T.T. , Favre not sticking to retirement does put the Packers in a bad position and is on him alone.
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I disagree...at this point...he retired...they owe hiom nothing as far as a release or trade...and i would not do it...especially releasing him...that would be a terrible football decision.
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Its not that simple. McNair went through the same thing with the Titans. They either have to release him or let him play they cannot simply tell him to stay away and refuse to release to him.
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They don't have to "let him play". While he would be an overpriced backup...they can sit him behind Rodgers.McNair's issue is different...he was under contract and due a huge bonus (he was traded because they could not work out a deal to get rid of that bonus).
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While it is true that dont have to play him, Farve would still be allowed access to all practice facilities and be allowed the same priviliges as any of his teammates if the Packers maintain his rights. McNair issue is not different the Titans did not want him to practice because if he got injured they were on the hook for his contract, im sure the Packers are thinking the same thing with Brett right now.
 
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Warriors Forever said:
I like the idea of trading Rodgers (1 and 2 for him!? Are you serious!? They'd get a 3rd rounder, LUCKY to get a 2nd). I do like that idea though, trade Rodgers and let Favre tutor Brohm.
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they could easily get a 2nd for him, and probably a 1st rounder for rogers. he was drafted in the late 1st and has had a few years to learn the game and all indications are that the packers believe in him, so i'm sure there are other teams that do. some team would pony up a 1st, i'd bet my life on it. he's as good or better prospect then any qb's coming out next year and he has experience.
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No team would give up a first for Rodgers. He hasnt shown anything so far. Teams would rather draft a young guy and build him up in their system rather than trade for one that has already been wasting for years on someone elses team.
 
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ookook said:
I think having Favre on the bench as a back-up is EXACTLY the scenario they should avoid.
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I agree. Every week there would be a new story about how Favre thinks he should be starting. Favre wouldn't come out and say it, of course. But he'd spend a lot of time in the media not saying it, and his mom would say it, and his "family sources" would say it, etc., etc., etc. It would undermine the team, the staring QB, and the decisions of the coaching staff.
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I dont think it ever gets to him being a backup though...once he hears this...i doubt his return would even happen imo.
 
simmonjm said:
sho nuff said:
simmonjm said:
sho nuff said:
ookook said:
I agree they should either trade or release him if he requests it.For what it is worth, without a totla hijacking that T.T. had been smiling to the media all the while hoping/pushing Favre to retire. So he did, but not really when he was ready to.Edited to note that I really think only Favre is to "blame" if this turns into the mess it looks like. Favre retiring prematurely may be shared by T.T. , Favre not sticking to retirement does put the Packers in a bad position and is on him alone.
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I disagree...at this point...he retired...they owe hiom nothing as far as a release or trade...and i would not do it...especially releasing him...that would be a terrible football decision.
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Its not that simple. McNair went through the same thing with the Titans. They either have to release him or let him play they cannot simply tell him to stay away and refuse to release to him.
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They don't have to "let him play". While he would be an overpriced backup...they can sit him behind Rodgers.McNair's issue is different...he was under contract and due a huge bonus (he was traded because they could not work out a deal to get rid of that bonus).
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While it is true that dont have to play him, Farve would still be allowed access to all practice facilities and be allowed the same priviliges as any of his teammates if the Packers maintain his rights. McNair issue is not different the Titans did not want him to practice because if he got injured they were on the hook for his contract, im sure the Packers are thinking the same thing with Brett right now.
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Not totally...the Titans knew they could not afford McNair's bonus in the first place...it was one of those huge bonuses nobody ever thought would get paid. True, they tried to protect themselves from him getting injurred...I think GB is trying to protect Rodger's psyche more than an investment in Favre at this point.
 
cacksman said:
moderated said:
Warriors Forever said:
I like the idea of trading Rodgers (1 and 2 for him!? Are you serious!? They'd get a 3rd rounder, LUCKY to get a 2nd). I do like that idea though, trade Rodgers and let Favre tutor Brohm.
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they could easily get a 2nd for him, and probably a 1st rounder for rogers. he was drafted in the late 1st and has had a few years to learn the game and all indications are that the packers believe in him, so i'm sure there are other teams that do. some team would pony up a 1st, i'd bet my life on it. he's as good or better prospect then any qb's coming out next year and he has experience.
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No team would give up a first for Rodgers. He hasnt shown anything so far. Teams would rather draft a young guy and build him up in their system rather than trade for one that has already been wasting for years on someone elses team.
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Depends...GB gave up a 1st for Favre way back when and he had proven nothing at that point.
 
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I'm kind of surprised by the people that think that the Packers could get a first round pick for Rodgers. After some talk of him going with the 1st pick overall, 23 teams passed on him in the first round. What has he done since then to make him worth a first round pick now? He seems to get hurt every time he gets in a game.
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That's because he was hurt his senior year after having a lot of intestines taken out after a car accident. They looked at the wrong film. Wolf didn't.
 
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bbuster said:
I'm kind of surprised by the people that think that the Packers could get a first round pick for Rodgers. After some talk of him going with the 1st pick overall, 23 teams passed on him in the first round. What has he done since then to make him worth a first round pick now? He seems to get hurt every time he gets in a game.
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That's because he was hurt his senior year after having a lot of intestines taken out after a car accident. They looked at the wrong film. Wolf didn't.
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:thumbdown:Rodgers had his intestines removed? :unsure:
 
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There's not going to be a trade. No team is going to want to pay that much money to a stopgap starter for a year or two.

I think if he does come back the Pack will cut him. They'll phrase it in the nicest possible way, about how much they appreciate his years of service and how they want to give him the opportunity to conclude his career in the location of his choice etc, but basically, they want to go with Rodgers now and this whole thing is a tedious distraction for them.
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Not a chance.They won't risk him going to Minnesota or Chicago.

No way. I think they may try and trade him, and I wouldn't be shocked one bit if he's traded to Tampa

 
Even though it's just speculation and rumors at this point that Favre wants to come back...this is getting me riled up. :goodposting: I've been a die hard fan from birth...bleed green and gold...blah blah. If Favre wants to come back, and it's true that the Packers don't want him, I actually hope he does end up with the Vikings or the Bears and takes them to the SB.

As far as I'm concerned, Favre is the Packers. He's given them everything he has for 16 years and he still has more to give...IMO, a hell of a lot more than Rodgers has to offer. I think they are idiots if they let him go...and if they do, I hope they get what they deserve.

 
bbuster said:
Even though it's just speculation and rumors at this point that Favre wants to come back...this is getting me riled up. :lmao: I've been a die hard fan from birth...bleed green and gold...blah blah. If Favre wants to come back, and it's true that the Packers don't want him, I actually hope he does end up with the Vikings or the Bears and takes them to the SB.

As far as I'm concerned, Favre is the Packers. He's given them everything he has for 16 years and he still has more to give...IMO, a hell of a lot more than Rodgers has to offer. I think they are idiots if they let him go...and if they do, I hope they get what they deserve.
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Where there's smoke, there's fire, sir.And it's ironic that those who are in favor of Favre coming back speak nothing about the distraction his yearly retirement drama causes. Guess it has no effect on the organization and players, huh?

 
Beergogglz said:
bbuster said:
Even though it's just speculation and rumors at this point that Favre wants to come back...this is getting me riled up. :lmao: I've been a die hard fan from birth...bleed green and gold...blah blah. If Favre wants to come back, and it's true that the Packers don't want him, I actually hope he does end up with the Vikings or the Bears and takes them to the SB.

As far as I'm concerned, Favre is the Packers. He's given them everything he has for 16 years and he still has more to give...IMO, a hell of a lot more than Rodgers has to offer. I think they are idiots if they let him go...and if they do, I hope they get what they deserve.
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Where there's smoke, there's fire, sir.And it's ironic that those who are in favor of Favre coming back speak nothing about the distraction his yearly retirement drama causes. Guess it has no effect on the organization and players, huh?
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Because his "yearly" retirement talk was basically really one year where it drew out past the Super Bowl and I doubt there was much distraction to the team. So no, I don't think it has much effect.

Do you have any information that shows otherwise?

 
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Beergogglz said:
bbuster said:
Even though it's just speculation and rumors at this point that Favre wants to come back...this is getting me riled up. :shrug: I've been a die hard fan from birth...bleed green and gold...blah blah. If Favre wants to come back, and it's true that the Packers don't want him, I actually hope he does end up with the Vikings or the Bears and takes them to the SB.

As far as I'm concerned, Favre is the Packers. He's given them everything he has for 16 years and he still has more to give...IMO, a hell of a lot more than Rodgers has to offer. I think they are idiots if they let him go...and if they do, I hope they get what they deserve.
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Where there's smoke, there's fire, sir.And it's ironic that those who are in favor of Favre coming back speak nothing about the distraction his yearly retirement drama causes. Guess it has no effect on the organization and players, huh?
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Because his "yearly" retirement talk was basically really one year where it drew out past the Super Bowl and I doubt there was much distraction to the team. So no, I don't think it has much effect.

Do you have any information that shows otherwise?
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I'm kind of sick of hearing about distractions to the team or distractions to Rodgers...really sick of hearing how this whole situation may undermine Rodgers confidence. Are these guys professionals or not? If this messes with Rodgers head, then why would anyone think he has the mental fortitude to be a starting QB for an NFL team? As far as all the talk of retirement over the years...it's been brought up several million times that it really was only extended the one year. Don't you think that when anyone has been in the league for as many years as Favre has that they think about retirement after every season. It's a punishing game...of course you're going to be trying to figure out whether you can do it again or not. The only reason why this is such a big deal is because it's Favre. He made a mistake. He's entitled. He's not the first...won't be the last.
 
Get a grip. This is a media soap opera. This crap from the media is why idiots like George Bush are elected while americans can't focus on real issues.

Focus. They'll work this out.

 
bbuster said:
Don't you think that when anyone has been in the league for as many years as Favre has that they think about retirement after every season. It's a punishing game...of course you're going to be trying to figure out whether you can do it again or not. The only reason why this is such a big deal is because it's Favre. He made a mistake. He's entitled. He's not the first...won't be the last.
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Oh bull****. If it is not obvious to you already, all this is a bunch of "Ted Thompson doesn't kiss my kiester enough" boohooing, apparently for the last couple years. It's no longer just his agent saying that; now they have quotes from friends and family members echoing that:
Al Jones, a Favre friend who writes for the Biloxi (Miss.) Sun Herald, had this to say when the comeback rumors came out last week."It all comes down to Ted Thompson," Jones told WTMJ Radio. "The main thing is the man has shown no respect to perhaps the greatest quarterback in their franchise history. Brett's a little disappointed. He feels like he can still play. He knows he can still play."
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“He has felt like that for the last couple of years, that the Packers didn’t really want him back,” his mother, Bonita Favre, told Milwaukee TV station WITI after it was reported Wednesday that Favre was getting the itch to play again. “But nothing has been said. You know it has just been bits and pieces throughout the last couple of years, things that would come up, and it just didn’t seem like they went out of their way to keep him. It was kind of like, ‘You’re done.’”
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With all due respect to his accomplishments, it may be endearing that Favre is a big kid on the field, but he is a Class A Crybaby off of it. All this 'tortured soul' BS he has gone on and on about for years is a bunch of hogwash; he merely publicizes retirement drama every time he isn't being sufficiently worshipped.
 
BigJim® said:
bbuster said:
Don't you think that when anyone has been in the league for as many years as Favre has that they think about retirement after every season. It's a punishing game...of course you're going to be trying to figure out whether you can do it again or not. The only reason why this is such a big deal is because it's Favre. He made a mistake. He's entitled. He's not the first...won't be the last.
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Oh bull****. If it is not obvious to you already, all this is a bunch of "Ted Thompson doesn't kiss my kiester enough" boohooing, apparently for the last couple years. It's no longer just his agent saying that; now they have quotes from friends and family members echoing that:
Al Jones, a Favre friend who writes for the Biloxi (Miss.) Sun Herald, had this to say when the comeback rumors came out last week."It all comes down to Ted Thompson," Jones told WTMJ Radio. "The main thing is the man has shown no respect to perhaps the greatest quarterback in their franchise history. Brett's a little disappointed. He feels like he can still play. He knows he can still play."
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“He has felt like that for the last couple of years, that the Packers didn’t really want him back,” his mother, Bonita Favre, told Milwaukee TV station WITI after it was reported Wednesday that Favre was getting the itch to play again. “But nothing has been said. You know it has just been bits and pieces throughout the last couple of years, things that would come up, and it just didn’t seem like they went out of their way to keep him. It was kind of like, ‘You’re done.’”
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With all due respect to his accomplishments, it may be endearing that Favre is a big kid on the field, but he is a Class A Crybaby off of it. All this 'tortured soul' BS he has gone on and on about for years is a bunch of hogwash; he merely publicizes retirement drama every time he isn't being sufficiently worshipped.
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:thumbup: It's so refreshing to hear a point of view that is not endorsed by the Drama Queen Mafia. Bravo!
 
BigJim® said:
bbuster said:
Don't you think that when anyone has been in the league for as many years as Favre has that they think about retirement after every season. It's a punishing game...of course you're going to be trying to figure out whether you can do it again or not. The only reason why this is such a big deal is because it's Favre. He made a mistake. He's entitled. He's not the first...won't be the last.
Click to expand...
Oh bull****. If it is not obvious to you already, all this is a bunch of "Ted Thompson doesn't kiss my kiester enough" boohooing, apparently for the last couple years. It's no longer just his agent saying that; now they have quotes from friends and family members echoing that:
Al Jones, a Favre friend who writes for the Biloxi (Miss.) Sun Herald, had this to say when the comeback rumors came out last week."It all comes down to Ted Thompson," Jones told WTMJ Radio. "The main thing is the man has shown no respect to perhaps the greatest quarterback in their franchise history. Brett's a little disappointed. He feels like he can still play. He knows he can still play."
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“He has felt like that for the last couple of years, that the Packers didn’t really want him back,” his mother, Bonita Favre, told Milwaukee TV station WITI after it was reported Wednesday that Favre was getting the itch to play again. “But nothing has been said. You know it has just been bits and pieces throughout the last couple of years, things that would come up, and it just didn’t seem like they went out of their way to keep him. It was kind of like, ‘You’re done.’”
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With all due respect to his accomplishments, it may be endearing that Favre is a big kid on the field, but he is a Class A Crybaby off of it. All this 'tortured soul' BS he has gone on and on about for years is a bunch of hogwash; he merely publicizes retirement drama every time he isn't being sufficiently worshipped.
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Why are Favre threads always filled with the guys who complain about the media circus surrounding Favre. They talk about being tired of hearing about him...and yet they always come to the threads.
 
bbuster said:
Why are Favre threads always filled with the guys who complain about the media circus surrounding Favre. They talk about being tired of hearing about him...and yet they always come to the threads.
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Boring off season? There is a lot of anger about Madden loving Favre and other media sources doing the same, but it shouldn't generate hate toward him. He isn't causing it. If you look at how he dresses at press conferences it's pretty clear he isn't going after attention. He likes having fun and winning. They must be the types that crash parties because they don't like others having fun.
 
bbuster said:
Why are Favre threads always filled with the guys who complain about the media circus surrounding Favre. They talk about being tired of hearing about him...and yet they always come to the threads.
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Translation: Gee whiz I have no basis to retort the obvious, so I'll just ridicule those who aren't fooled by what is going on into not opening and participating in these threads. :bowtie:
 
bcr8f said:
bbuster said:
Why are Favre threads always filled with the guys who complain about the media circus surrounding Favre. They talk about being tired of hearing about him...and yet they always come to the threads.
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Boring off season? There is a lot of anger about Madden loving Favre and other media sources doing the same, but it shouldn't generate hate toward him. He isn't causing it. If you look at how he dresses at press conferences it's pretty clear he isn't going after attention. He likes having fun and winning. They must be the types that crash parties because they don't like others having fun.
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Let me get this straight; the people who see Favre for what he is are those bastards who crash parties and are a bunch of fun haters? Wow. My condolences to your brain. I've never seen such an eloquent comparison of apples to airplanes.
 
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