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OFFICIAL 5th pick (12 team redraft) thread (1 Viewer)

for standard scoring, hope that either westbrook, Sjax or ADP fall. After them its a bit more of a crapshoot.

In 6pt per passing TD, I would look Brady. I know how unpopular this suggestion will be around here, but the guy carried teams last season. People love to say he can't post similar again, I just ask "why not?"

 
drafted from this spot last week in a WCOFF online draft (ppr), i started

Moss

McGahee

Grant

Winslow

C. Palmer

S. Young

and was pretty happy with that. this seems like a good spot to start RB/WR/WR this year. if Grant wouldn't have been there, i would have taken a WR.

 
1st pick:

I am guessing you will have the choice between Westbrook, Addai, Moss or Gore (two of those will probably drop to you) and if you are in a 6pt TD pass league, you may want to consider Brady here. I am in a mock right now where I wanted to see what happened if I drafted Brady at the 1.08 spot, and although I am only through 4 rounds, I do not care for my team much.

2nd pick:

If you go with a RB first, you may be able to get Edwards or possibly (not likely) Owens and if you could secure one of those two, i would take one of them before the remaining RBs. If you prefer to go RB-RB or grabbed Moss in the 1st, you would be wise to take whoever falls out of the MJD, Bush, Maroney and Grant group. I would prefer MJD or Bush in a PPR and would hold off on Grant and Maroney. If you can't get MJD or Bush, (or if a Lynch does not drop...which I do not think he will), personally, i would go WR there. If Edward and Owens are gone, Fitz would be a tiny reach, but only by a few spots according to ADP.

3rd pick:

Obviously it depends what you did with your first two, but I like the WRs available here (maybe Housh, smith, CJ, Boldin) over the RBs like Graham. Again, if a Maroney or Grant dropped to you here, i would seriously consider as long as you already have a WR, but I am thinking the value is at WR here.

Those are just some ideas of what you may see out of that slot. I am in a 12 team mock right now and the guy in that slot came away with S-Jax (surprising), Maroney and Boldin for his first three picks.

 
I foresee LT and A Peterson going one and two for sure. Knowing my league, this is pretty absolute.

#3 & #4 is a bit more questionable.

At #5 I would love to SJax or Westy to drop but I do not see that happening. IN my perfect world, I would secure Westy.

I am not sold on Frank Gore (Martz) nor am I sold on Addai.

Can anyone sell me on them? and tell me why they would take either at #5 or which one and why?

In the last couple of years at varying draft positions, I have gone RB WR WR and plan to do the same this year. However, a slight reach for Moss @ #5 is something I am considering.

That would leave the likes of Mcgahee, Bush, MJD and Grant as my possible #1 RB.

Looking forward to hearing the varying strategies and actual draft info as it unfolds for each of us @ # 5.

 
what about LJ? Yeah, we was awful last year but does he return to 06' form? A reach, but worth a gamble?

 
Having done a bunch of Mocks I think 5 is a great spot. I typically grab Addai and then get Brees (sometimes PM drops) in the second (600+ ATTs and 4200+yds). The third is BPA usually a top teir WR ( from MY list) drops if not I grab a RB.

Personally, if you really like Brady that much ( I do also) then I feel this strat has much more insurance against bust. Remember, very few QB repeat as #1.

 
Portis should be in the conversation IMO.
I am starting to think about Portis. Having said that, based on what I have heard, it appears as though SJAX is going to fall to me. Is he a solid choice at 5? or should I consider Addai, Portis or Moss? Decisions, decisions...
 
Personally, I would not take Addai at 5. I expect to see the TD's come down this season closer to 06 numbers.

After the "big 4" not 5, the next tier of Runningbacks are a step below. While Addai might be the best of that bunch, I'd much rather grab Brady or Moss at this point and get the #1 player at another position.

You can still get a solid RB in rnds 2-3.

 
I have the 5th in a 12 teamer too. the scoring heavily favors Qb's and they go pretty fast.

6pt td

ppr

1 pt 25 yds pass/rush/rec

VBD has 3 qb's in the top 6 based on the above scoring (Brady, Manning, Brees)

I'm pretty sure one of the first 4 will take Brady leaving me to choose on of the following

Brady( maybe they won't take him)

Sjax

Westy

Addai

I've done a few different Mocks and if Brady is there for me at 5 I may have to give some serious thought to taking him. In a few of the mocks I've done if I take Brady at 5 I choose between these guys in rnd 2

Mcgahee

Grant

edwards

Housh

I could go qb- rb wr and not have to bad of a start.

 
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I know that a lot of people are high on Brady and I do think that he will have a good year this year but not close to last years. He will still be in the elite groups of qb's though. If you noticed last year Belicheat was playing Brady well into the 4th quarter even with the game out of reach. He had to prove after spygate that he could still lay an a## whoopin on teams without using the videotapes. I think now that he proved that he will not play Brady as much into the 4th quarter and roll the score up as much.

 
My challenge is this....

From the feedback I have been getting, the first four picked will be:

LT

AP

Westy

Brady

I think at #5, I am going to go with Moss unless someone, anyone can convince me otherwise to take SJAX. I think about LJ from last year and the impact his holdout had on his conditioning and to me, it spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E for SJAX this year. Couple that with Ogden's slow recovery I am not sold.

However, if the choice boils down to Brady and Moss, then I will be torn but truth be told, I think I will go for Moss. FEEDBACK? The next challenge being which RB to grab in round 2.

 
My challenge is this....

From the feedback I have been getting, the first four picked will be:

LT

AP

Westy

Brady

I think at #5, I am going to go with Moss unless someone, anyone can convince me otherwise to take SJAX. I think about LJ from last year and the impact his holdout had on his conditioning and to me, it spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E for SJAX this year. Couple that with Ogden's Pace's slow recovery I am not sold.

However, if the choice boils down to Brady and Moss, then I will be torn but truth be told, I think I will go for Moss. FEEDBACK? The next challenge being which RB to grab in round 2.
Fixed.Doubtful that the SJax holdout will result in a similar injury, but I understand the concern. I'm more concerned about the O line and overall team in STL @ this point.

Unless your league is 6pt. passing TDs you should go RB in the first IMO out of the 5 slot. #6+ it gets a lot more open to debate (WR/QB wise in round 1) - and I'm not that high on Gore, McGaehee, Portis this year.

Though I'm sure the rough year (generally speaking) for RBs last season and the related increase in passing/receiving #s, will trend drafters to look @ QBs and WRs earlier than in years past. That, along w/ the bigger than normal group of decent 2nd/3rd tier RBs available through round 4/5 will make drafting this season more interesting.

In most leagues (w/o passing TDs @ 6pts), I'd think the first 5 picks are RBs - like most years - with Addai being the #5 option in most cases. LT/ADP/SJax/Westy are 'the big 4', and I don't see Addai as much (if any) behind SJax and Westy - even in a PPR this year. Although Addai's schedule is NOT pretty. Looked @ it today and it's brutal vs. the run early on w/ a nice playoff run.

My re-draft (where I'm drafting 5th) is a 14 team league, so there's 4 more picks added into the mix between R1 and R2, but I'd still lean towards 1st RB/2nd WR/3rd BPA (RB-WR-or top 2 TE - maybe Romo) - and look for some QB value late. Our league is only 4 pt. passing TDs, but I can guarantee the top 3 qbs will be gone by the time my 2nd rounder comes around.

Knowing the drafting history of your league mates can be $$$ also - helping you work the draft.

 
So with pick #5 it basically comes down to:

Addai in round 1 & a WR like Fitz/Colston/AJohnson in round 2

or

Moss in round 1 & a RB like Grant/McGahee/MJD in round 2

Hmmm I think Im leaning towards option 1

Then in round 3 Id take best available WR or RB (I love Jacobs this year) and in round 4 if I get a RB in round 3 take QB (hopefully Palmer or Brees) and if I get a WR in round 3 take best RB (Graham, Bush, Parker, White, Selvin, TJones) etc.

 
When trying to decided whether to go RB or WR at #5, does the fact that Steve Smith will miss three games (2 suspension + 1 bye) and Brandon Marshall will miss 4 games (3 suspension + by week) impact any of the decision making process? Basically, 2 of the top 15 WR's (according to ADP) will already miss games. If you can get the #1 WR w/ the 5th pick you don't have to think about another WR until round #3 at which point I believe someone will have gobbled up Smith and you can gamble on Marshall or find a compliment to Moss.

 
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So with pick #5 it basically comes down to:Addai in round 1 & a WR like Fitz/Colston/AJohnson in round 2orMoss in round 1 & a RB like Grant/McGahee/MJD in round 2Hmmm I think Im leaning towards option 1Then in round 3 Id take best available WR or RB (I love Jacobs this year) and in round 4 if I get a RB in round 3 take QB (hopefully Palmer or Brees) and if I get a WR in round 3 take best RB (Graham, Bush, Parker, White, Selvin, TJones) etc.
Doubtful Brees makes it to the 4th (assuming 12 team league), but I agree w/ the rest. I wouldn't want any of the backs in the Moss (R1) example as my RB1.
 
drafted from this spot last week in a WCOFF online draft (ppr), i startedMossMcGaheeGrantWinslowC. PalmerS. Youngand was pretty happy with that. this seems like a good spot to start RB/WR/WR this year. if Grant wouldn't have been there, i would have taken a WR.
Pretty sweet team right there. I am surprised McGahee & Grant fell to you at those spots.
 
So with pick #5 it basically comes down to:Addai in round 1 & a WR like Fitz/Colston/AJohnson in round 2orMoss in round 1 & a RB like Grant/McGahee/MJD in round 2Hmmm I think Im leaning towards option 1Then in round 3 Id take best available WR or RB (I love Jacobs this year) and in round 4 if I get a RB in round 3 take QB (hopefully Palmer or Brees) and if I get a WR in round 3 take best RB (Graham, Bush, Parker, White, Selvin, TJones) etc.
Doubtful Brees makes it to the 4th (assuming 12 team league), but I agree w/ the rest. I wouldn't want any of the backs in the Moss (R1) example as my RB1.
I think McGahee would make a good #1 RB.
 
So with pick #5 it basically comes down to:Addai in round 1 & a WR like Fitz/Colston/AJohnson in round 2orMoss in round 1 & a RB like Grant/McGahee/MJD in round 2Hmmm I think Im leaning towards option 1Then in round 3 Id take best available WR or RB (I love Jacobs this year) and in round 4 if I get a RB in round 3 take QB (hopefully Palmer or Brees) and if I get a WR in round 3 take best RB (Graham, Bush, Parker, White, Selvin, TJones) etc.
Doubtful Brees makes it to the 4th (assuming 12 team league), but I agree w/ the rest. I wouldn't want any of the backs in the Moss (R1) example as my RB1.
I think McGahee would make a good #1 RB.
I forsee potential problems with Mcgahee this year....
 
I know that my league's going LDT, AP, Westy, Addai. I've been in the "no worries" camp on SJax for a long time, but as the days march on, doubt is creeping in.

Anyone else feeling the same?

 
I know that my league's going LDT, AP, Westy, Addai. I've been in the "no worries" camp on SJax for a long time, but as the days march on, doubt is creeping in.Anyone else feeling the same?
I have not been sold on him since day 1. I am going with Moss....
 
Im not sold on SJax or Addai. If Westy falls to me I'm taking him without looking back. If he's gone, I'll probably take Moss.

Im also considering trading down. I hate the 5 spot this year.

Basically, if you are happy with any of Westy/Addai/SJAX (asuuming, of course, LT and ADP go 1-2), 5 is a great spot. Otherwise, it just sucks.

 
If you're not convinced on Addai or SJax, then I think the 5th pick might be a good spot to go WR/WR/RB this year.

You could grab Moss in the 1st and then probably get one of Wayne or Braylon in the 2nd. You'd have to cross your fingers that some RB talent drops to you in the 3rd but if it doesn't you could grab a Colston type as your WR3 or a Brees as your QB1 and then piecemeal together a RB corp with 4-5 mid/late round guys like TJ, Edge, Rudi, Forte, KSmith, Green, Lendale, CJohnson, Selvin, Ricky...

Theoretically you could end up with this team core:

RB: T.Jones

RB: S.Young

WR: R.Moss

WR: R.Wayne

WR: M.Colston

Now, all of that said – I'm a believer in all of the top 5 backs and will be thrilled with whichever of SJax or Addai drops to me... so I'm really just throwing spaghetti at the wall here and thinking out loud.

 
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Have the 5th pick also in a 12team ppr Redraft. We start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1K 1DST & 1Flex (any position) QB's get 4pt TD and all others get 6pt. ALL get 2pt bonus for TD's 50yds+

See my draft going

1. LT

2. ADP

3. Sjax/Addai

4. Westy

5. Leaves me with a probable choice of Addai, Gore, Maybe SJax or Westy. But being able to start 2QB's, questioning if I should just draft Brady or Moss for that matter.

 
Well my draft is next Saturday and I think I'm sold on Portis. Am I nuts?

My draft will likely go:

LT

AD

WB

Addai/SJax/MB3

Pretty sure I'm going Portis regardless of what #4 does.

I'm not touching SJax.

Used to love MB3, but love Portis more.

 
For me, I think the 3rd round pick is going to make or break my team. In mocking out my league's draft, I usually end up going Portis/Fitz and then I'm looking at one of these in the 3rd:

Maroney

Turner

Edge Bush

McFadden

Thomas Jones

I'm leaning towards Turner here, though I think TJ will have a great year. I like Edge too. Very tough call here.

Thoughts on round 3?

 
Just drafted from the 5 hole in a 12 team PPR. I went crazy with WR-WR-WR-RB. We'll see how it works.

EDIT: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 DEF. No flex.

1.05 WR R. Moss

2.08 WR TJ Housh

3.05 WR T. Holt

4.08 RB B. Jacobs

5.05 RB W. Parker

6.08 RB L. White

7.05 RB D. Williams

8.08 QB D. Garrard

9.05 WR R. Brown

10.08 QB M. Bulger

11.05 DEF Pittsburgh

12.08 TE Z. Miller

13.05 WR M. Clayton

14.08 TE LJ Smith

15.05 DEF Tampa Bay

16.08 PK M. Crosby

17.05 RB L. Weaver

18.08 WR D. Patten

 
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I actually like that team. Being in Pittsburgh, I know FWP will not be there for me in the 5th. That was a great steal for you, IMO. Someone in my league will likely take him in the 3rd.

 
I actually like that team. Being in Pittsburgh, I know FWP will not be there for me in the 5th. That was a great steal for you, IMO. Someone in my league will likely take him in the 3rd.
Thanks. I am weak at RB, but have 4 decent backs with potential to hold on to their starting role on their teams. If 2 out of the 4 can be decent, I should have a solid year IMO. I won't need much RB scoring with 3 strong WRs starting for me.
 
For me, I think the 3rd round pick is going to make or break my team. In mocking out my league's draft, I usually end up going Portis/Fitz and then I'm looking at one of these in the 3rd:MaroneyTurnerEdge BushMcFaddenThomas JonesI'm leaning towards Turner here, though I think TJ will have a great year. I like Edge too. Very tough call here.Thoughts on round 3?
I've been mocking 14 team (redraft) out of the 5 slot and this is what it's looking like lately.R1 - Addai (or Barber) - maybe Moss, but I HATE the rbs in this scenarioR2 - Colston if he falls - otherwise Romo/Brees (too early for Jamal)R3 - Calvin (a little early but :hifive: him this year) or M Turner (don't like Maroney/TJ/Rudi this early)R4 - Selvin (somethimes in the 5th rd)R5 - KWIII, Dallas Clark, BoweR6 - DeangeloR7 - Cutler (unless QB in R2) / BurlesonR8 - Berrian / R Rice / C Johnson (TN)R9 - MeachamR10 - Maurice Morris if he falls / L JordanR11 - Leinhart (always seems to fall this far)R12 - D Keller (b/u TE w/ nice upside) or Mushin M.Again this is 14 team data!I wish SJax would get into camp, and tie up the 4th pick. I'd rather have Addai anyway. When Addai goes 4th - things get fugly (not so crazy about Barber in the 5 slot).
 
Just drafted from the 5 hole in a 12 team PPR. I went crazy with WR-WR-WR-RB. We'll see how it works.EDIT: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 DEF. No flex.1.05 WR R. Moss2.08 WR TJ Housh3.05 WR T. Holt4.08 RB B. Jacobs 5.05 RB W. Parker6.08 RB L. White7.05 RB D. Williams8.08 QB D. Garrard 9.05 WR R. Brown10.08 QB M. Bulger11.05 DEF Pittsburgh12.08 TE Z. Miller13.05 WR M. Clayton14.08 TE LJ Smith15.05 DEF Tampa Bay16.08 PK M. Crosby17.05 RB L. Weaver18.08 WR D. Patten
I love this team and think you'll do very well. if I could guarantee the same players would fall to be using this same method I would take this team. You will certainly find talent among Parker, Williams, Jacobs and White. Worst case, you can combo a top WR and one of the backs for a better RB. I like it!
 
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Did any of you draft from this spot this weekend? How'd it work out for you?
Weds night, FWIW.1. (5) Randy Moss 2. (20) Marques Colston 3. (29) Maurice Jones-Drew 4. (44) Brandon Marshall 5. (53) Kellen Winslow 6. (68) Ronnie Brown 7. (77) Kevin Smith 8. (92) Selvin Young 9. (101) Jay Cutler 10. (116) Vince Young 11. (125) Chris Johnson 12. (140) Ronald Curry 13. (149) James Hardy 14. (164) Matt Prater 15. (173) Indianapolis 16. (188) Justin Gage Start 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 1 No PPR
 
I pick 5 in a 12 team redraft... I think my league will start 1. LT 2. AP 3. Westbrook 4. Jackson....

I think I've narrowed it down to Joseph Addai or Marion Barber III, who I'm high on.

 
I pick 5 in a 12 team redraft... I think my league will start 1. LT 2. AP 3. Westbrook 4. Jackson....

I think I've narrowed it down to Joseph Addai or Marion Barber III, who I'm high on.
That's pretty standard from what I've seen in mocks, unless the SJax signing motivates #4. I'm leaning towards MBIII @ this point, even w/ Felix potentially vulturing.Side note (14 team league data here!) - anyone notice that the mock data provided by the DD program is VERY RB heavy (especially early) compared to live mocks (i.e. fantasyfootballcalculator.com). DD is picking Jacobs @ the end of the 1st and giving me (from the 5 slot) Braylon in the 2nd and Fitz in the 3rd.

Maybe I need to tweak the scoring, but it's just a std performance league w/ 4 pt QB tds. Any advise on this?

 
I'm probably losing my mind more than anyone!

I have the #5 in a 12 teamer and I have a strange feeling that Gore is going to be unreal this year. He has never had the time to establish his TD totals and I think that changes this year (along with his many yards).

Addai has a horrible schedule and I can't see him reaching near his TD total as its odd that that many WR's will be hauled down at the 1 this year.

I'll get laughed at.....I dunno what to do.

 
I'm probably losing my mind more than anyone!

I have the #5 in a 12 teamer and I have a strange feeling that Gore is going to be unreal this year. He has never had the time to establish his TD totals and I think that changes this year (along with his many yards).

Addai has a horrible schedule and I can't see him reaching near his TD total as its odd that that many WR's will be hauled down at the 1 this year.

I'll get laughed at.....I dunno what to do.
Trade down to 9 or 8 in the first round, take Gore and get a bump in the 3rd, etc.No point in taking Gore @5 where he's getting drafted currently.

Or take SJax/Addai and trade for Gore + something after the draft.

 
In a 12 teamer today, here's what I got in the first 5 rounds from the 5 spot:

1.05 Barber

2.08 Colston

3.05 Burress

4.08 Jacobs

5.05 Cotchery

The first 4 picks were LT, Peterson, Westbrook, and Jackson. I thought about Addai, but my team is somewhat touchdown-heavy so that helped me decide on Barber.

 
In a 12 teamer today, here's what I got in the first 5 rounds from the 5 spot:1.05 Barber2.08 Colston3.05 Burress4.08 Jacobs5.05 CotcheryThe first 4 picks were LT, Peterson, Westbrook, and Jackson. I thought about Addai, but my team is somewhat touchdown-heavy so that helped me decide on Barber.
In my 12-teamer, the same 4 went 1-4. My first 9 picks were:1.05 - Portis2.08 - Braylon3.05 - R. Bush4.08 - LenDale5.05 - Cotchery6.08 - Shockey7.05 - Rudi8.08 - Santana Moss9.05 - Garrard
 
BTW in my draft 3 of the top QBs besides Brady were available to me in the 2nd round. I almost pulled the trigger on Romo but hoped one would slip to me in round 3. Brees went one spot ahead of me in round 3 so I took Jacobs who I was also targeting.

 
That was fun...just finished my first draft of the year and got #5 in PHENOMS league:

1.5 - Moss (LT, AP, BW, SJ 1-4)

2.8 - LJ

Traded 3.5 for 4.6 and 6.6

4.6 Calvin Johnson

4.8 Cotchery

5.5 Jennings

6.6 DA Williams

6.8 Kevin Smith

7.5 Lendale White

8.8 O. Daniels (a reach, but I love him and there was a run of TE's)

9.5 Garrard

10.8 Delhomme

11.5 DJ Hackett (traded 12 and 16 for 11 pick here...had an extra pick so instead of wasting it...)

11.7 Z. Miller

13.5 Nick Folk

14.8 W. Dunn

15.5 Buffalo D

17.5 Gaffney

18.8 Derrick Ward

THRILLED with how it panned out. Would have taken SJax had he fell to me but tbh, glad he didn't.

 

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