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There's a good chance he'll start the season on the PUP. But if you have the roster space he's not a bad player to stash for the end of the regular season/beginning of your playoff run.

Who else is going to steal his job? Burleson? Some rookie or other young guy?

Branch tore his ACL last year so there is the risk he won't be %100 but short of that he's IMO a great player to stash.

Update - Obomanu and Burleson on IR. Engram expected to be back in a couple of weeks. Taylor, Kent are a long ways from being good wr's.

This job is open for Branch/Engram when they get healthy.

 
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I have him on my roster in a keeper league and have no intention of getting rid of him. Don't really know if he's underrated, but he's a darn good option to have coming back mid season. I've got R. Moss and S. Smith (the one that's suspended) and plan to pick up a couple more wr's in our supplemental draft anyway.

 
I do think he's generally underrated this season. When he's healthy -- if he's healthy -- he's probably the best WR on the Seahawks. And Seahawk WRs don't have to be all that good to get nice fantasy stats anyway.

There's a risk he won't play at anywhere near 100% at all this season. But for where he's being drafted -- down around Troy Williamson, Marty Booker, Drew Bennett, Muhsin Muhammad, Arnaz Battle -- I think he's got better upside potential than anyone else available.

 
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Unless you have decent size rosters, its is awfully hard to stash someone who may play in the second half. In most of my leagues, I need that roster spotted filled with someone who can fill in for my bye weeks.

 
He is probably a top 30 or so WR being drafted in the late rounds. Sure he has an injury history, but there are no negatives to taking him over some scrub late in a draft. That same caliber of player you would take instead of Branch will be on the waiver wire all year. He will probably have the same stats in 10 games that those late rounders will have in 16.

 
Typical Pats - trade Branch for a 1st rder and then deal a 4th rder for Moss!

Branch showed minimal even when healthy - maybe a #4-5 WR project

 
cstruk said:
Unless you have decent size rosters, its is awfully hard to stash someone who may play in the second half. In most of my leagues, I need that roster spotted filled with someone who can fill in for my bye weeks.
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:shrug: I'll monitor him once the Branch owner drops him when the bye weeks hit.
 
Coach Mike Holmgren says Deion Branch (ACL surgery) would need to practice for at least a week to be placed on the Seahawks' Week 1 roster.

Branch remains on camp/PUP for now. Seattle may consider rushing him back because of Bobby Engram's injury, but Branch hasn't done more than individual drills. It'd be a big story if he does 11-on-11 work anytime soon.

Per Rotoworld

Not sure if this statement means anything but it's good to see he is running.

 
They're hoping he'll be ready for the season opener, or Week 2. With the early bye week there's not much chance he'll miss more than three games now. Has to be considered decent value given his ADP.

 
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).

If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.

 
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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]I get an average of 4/55/0.32 in his first two seasons with Seattle. This would give him 65/887/5.I thought Branch has looked pretty good when healthy for the Seahawks. I like him to be a good WR3/4 if he can stay on the field. He has a built a decent rapport with Hasselbeck, and should see a lot of targets with the lack of WR depth in Seattle.
 
footballman_696969 said:
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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]I get an average of 4/55/0.32 in his first two seasons with Seattle. This would give him 65/887/5.I thought Branch has looked pretty good when healthy for the Seahawks. I like him to be a good WR3/4 if he can stay on the field. He has a built a decent rapport with Hasselbeck, and should see a lot of targets with the lack of WR depth in Seattle.
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I included a playoff game where he got shut out.
 
wdcrob said:
They're hoping he'll be ready for the season opener, or Week 2. With the early bye week there's not much chance he'll miss more than three games now. Has to be considered decent value given his ADP.
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I know they want him back for the season's opener but has anybody read/seen anything that indicates that's an actual possibility?
 
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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So who do you expect to catch the ball in Seattle? Obomanu? Seneca? That rookie TE whose name escapes me at the moment? Maybe Burleson but imo with Engram out he's Branch's only real threat (if Branch does come back). I really don't have any illusion of Branch being Steve Smith but somebody is going to catch passes in Seattle and Branch has accomplished more than the rest of the guys.I am concerned they'll rush him back too soon.
 
Branch was about WR35 last season on a PPG basis. Let us say he misses 4 games (optimistically) and improves some.

I would say he should be not be drafted higher than WR45 or so. I think Dodds has him at 65th or so, which is probably a little undervalued. So 45th low end, 65th top end.

I like the guy, he just suffers when top CBs cover him.

He usually goes somewhere around D. Jackson and J. Gaffney around the mid 13th. I think that is about right.

 
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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:thumbdown:I've never understood the love for this guy, including when he was with the Pats.
 
Deion Branch is one of those guys I do not want on my teams.

He is the Wal-Mart version of Santana Moss. He has a few big games, does very little in most, and gets hurt a lot.

If he didn't have a couple of big games in the SB, he would be way down on the radar.

Stay away. He will disappoint you, just like he has me in years past.

 
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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He was signed after the season already started and had to learn a completely new offense on the fly. No camp, no time getting used to Hass and had Jackson and Engram (not on paper but in reality) ahead of him. You have to temper the first season's stats a little. I'm not saying he was worth the first, because so far not even close, but he was looking good before he got hurt and was the primary guy.
 
hotdampepperman said:
I have him on my roster in a keeper league and have no intention of getting rid of him. Don't really know if he's underrated, but he's a darn good option to have coming back mid season. I've got R. Moss and S. Smith (the one that's suspended) and plan to pick up a couple more wr's in our supplemental draft anyway.
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That's funny...I have the exact same receivers and drafted Branch late in a dynasty league.
 
I've posted a lot on Branch in the past and the same bottom line holds true. Most of the time he is a non factor.

Including regular and post season games, in 89 games played he's had under 50 yards receiving 42 times. That's nearly half. He's had a TON of weeks where he evaporates . . . Pats or Hawks.

If teams decide to actually cover him (double covergare), he will do close to nothing. Even single coverage gives him problems. If teams play zone, they will get burned. It's pretty much that simple.

 
Just Win Baby said:
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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:kicksrock:I've never understood the love for this guy, including when he was with the Pats.
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This is pretty misleading, David.The majority of those number are knocked down because of his poor first season with the Hawks, where he was traded to the team after camp.Last year, here are Branch's fantasy points per game in a non-ppr league:01814133 (first game back from injury)15411143That's pretty solid for a guy playing a position that is known to be inconsistent from week to week and for a guy being drafted as a WR5.10+ points in 6 out of 10 weeks (60%), which is pretty damn good for any WR, much less one that far down. It puts guys like Chad Johnson to shame even the year Chad was a consensus top 5 WR.For reference, Chad scored 10+ only 6 out of 16 weeks last year, or 37.5%. Even Reggie Wayne, who is pretty much the most constent fantasy WR out there right now, did it only 10 out of 16 times, or 62.5%.Sure, when Branch misses he's doing it with 3-4 points instead of 7-8 points, but he's a WR5 being drafted in the 13th round, while the other guys are WR1's being drafted in the 2nd/3rd rounds.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
Just Win Baby said:
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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:unsure:I've never understood the love for this guy, including when he was with the Pats.
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This is pretty misleading, David.The majority of those number are knocked down because of his poor first season with the Hawks, where he was traded to the team after camp.Last year, here are Branch's fantasy points per game in a non-ppr league:01814133 (first game back from injury)15411143That's pretty solid for a guy playing a position that is known to be inconsistent from week to week and for a guy being drafted as a WR5.10+ points in 6 out of 10 weeks (60%), which is pretty damn good for any WR, much less one that far down. It puts guys like Chad Johnson to shame even the year Chad was a consensus top 5 WR.For reference, Chad scored 10+ only 6 out of 16 weeks last year, or 37.5%. Even Reggie Wayne, who is pretty much the most constent fantasy WR out there right now, did it only 10 out of 16 times, or 62.5%.Sure, when Branch misses he's doing it with 3-4 points instead of 7-8 points, but he's a WR5 being drafted in the 13th round, while the other guys are WR1's being drafted in the 2nd/3rd rounds.
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You pretty much echoed exactly what I was saying . . . 6 decent weeks and 5 horrendous weeks. In 2006, he had 3 double digit weeks vs. 9 weeks of 5 or fewer points. I know you are wanting to give him a mulligan for that entire season, but he still played 14 games.I never said he was terrible, only terribly inconsistent. And if he is as hurt as he appears to be, I'd stay away from him unless I had a ton of extra roster spots and he wouldn ot bog my team down in any way by carrying him (maybe even into next year).
 
David Yudkin said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Just Win Baby said:
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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:tfp:I've never understood the love for this guy, including when he was with the Pats.
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This is pretty misleading, David.The majority of those number are knocked down because of his poor first season with the Hawks, where he was traded to the team after camp.Last year, here are Branch's fantasy points per game in a non-ppr league:01814133 (first game back from injury)15411143That's pretty solid for a guy playing a position that is known to be inconsistent from week to week and for a guy being drafted as a WR5.10+ points in 6 out of 10 weeks (60%), which is pretty damn good for any WR, much less one that far down. It puts guys like Chad Johnson to shame even the year Chad was a consensus top 5 WR.For reference, Chad scored 10+ only 6 out of 16 weeks last year, or 37.5%. Even Reggie Wayne, who is pretty much the most constent fantasy WR out there right now, did it only 10 out of 16 times, or 62.5%.Sure, when Branch misses he's doing it with 3-4 points instead of 7-8 points, but he's a WR5 being drafted in the 13th round, while the other guys are WR1's being drafted in the 2nd/3rd rounds.
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You pretty much echoed exactly what I was saying . . . 6 decent weeks and 5 horrendous weeks. In 2006, he had 3 double digit weeks vs. 9 weeks of 5 or fewer points. I know you are wanting to give him a mulligan for that entire season, but he still played 14 games.I never said he was terrible, only terribly inconsistent. And if he is as hurt as he appears to be, I'd stay away from him unless I had a ton of extra roster spots and he wouldn ot bog my team down in any way by carrying him (maybe even into next year).
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But for a WR, that's not really that inconsistent. If you can plug your WR5 in on whatever week you need him and have a 60% chance of getting 10+ points, that's pretty dang good, and is about the same chance you can expect to get that out of ANY WR out there, much less one going in the 13th round.There are more than a handful of WRs going in the first 5 rounds that aren't even going to be able to do that. Granted, their off weeks aren't really bad like Branch's are, but they're WR1's and 2's in the first five rounds and Branch is a WR5 in round 13.Give me a WR4 or WR5 that I may occasionally have to plug into the flex due to byes and injuries and give me a 60% chance that that guy is still going to net me 10+ points and that is better than just pretty good. This is WR we're talking about here. NO ONE is "really" consistent. And if he manages to pull those 3-4 point games up to 7-8 point games, we're looking at year end numbers right around all those other guys that are going 10 rounds earlier.
 
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FreeBaGeL said:
David Yudkin said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Just Win Baby said:
David Yudkin said:
Branch has averaged 52.3 yards and 0.3 TD per game in 26 games with Seattle. That's being healthy. I'm not sure what to expect once he comes back (probably rushed to boot).If we say he'll play 10 games, that would give him 523 yards and 3 TD at the same pace as pre-injury.
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:rolleyes:I've never understood the love for this guy, including when he was with the Pats.
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This is pretty misleading, David.The majority of those number are knocked down because of his poor first season with the Hawks, where he was traded to the team after camp.Last year, here are Branch's fantasy points per game in a non-ppr league:01814133 (first game back from injury)15411143That's pretty solid for a guy playing a position that is known to be inconsistent from week to week and for a guy being drafted as a WR5.10+ points in 6 out of 10 weeks (60%), which is pretty damn good for any WR, much less one that far down. It puts guys like Chad Johnson to shame even the year Chad was a consensus top 5 WR.For reference, Chad scored 10+ only 6 out of 16 weeks last year, or 37.5%. Even Reggie Wayne, who is pretty much the most constent fantasy WR out there right now, did it only 10 out of 16 times, or 62.5%.Sure, when Branch misses he's doing it with 3-4 points instead of 7-8 points, but he's a WR5 being drafted in the 13th round, while the other guys are WR1's being drafted in the 2nd/3rd rounds.
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You pretty much echoed exactly what I was saying . . . 6 decent weeks and 5 horrendous weeks. In 2006, he had 3 double digit weeks vs. 9 weeks of 5 or fewer points. I know you are wanting to give him a mulligan for that entire season, but he still played 14 games.I never said he was terrible, only terribly inconsistent. And if he is as hurt as he appears to be, I'd stay away from him unless I had a ton of extra roster spots and he wouldn ot bog my team down in any way by carrying him (maybe even into next year).
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But for a WR, that's not really that inconsistent. If you can plug your WR5 in on whatever week you need him and have a 60% chance of getting 10+ points, that's pretty dang good, and is about the same chance you can expect to get that out of ANY WR out there, much less one going in the 13th round.There are more than a handful of WRs going in the first 5 rounds that aren't even going to be able to do that. Granted, their off weeks aren't really bad like Branch's are, but they're WR1's and 2's in the first five rounds and Branch is a WR5 in round 13.Give me a WR4 or WR5 that I may occasionally have to plug into the flex due to byes and injuries and give me a 60% chance that that guy is still going to net me 10+ points and that is better than just pretty good. This is WR we're talking about here. NO ONE is "really" consistent. And if he manages to pull those 3-4 point games up to 7-8 point games, we're looking at year end numbers right around all those other guys that are going 10 rounds earlier.
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That's great if Branch is ready to play today, will suit up Week 1, and is 100% healthy. But it's looking more and more like NONE of those are true and he will start the year on the PUP list.So he will miss the first 6 games (and up to a couple more if they so chose) being on the PUP list, will have had ZERO practice the entire preseason, minicamp, training camp, and much of the season (in addition to still being hampered by injury). So let me ask this, then . . . what are you expecting Branch to do this year productivity wise? At this point, I'm thinking 30 receptions this year would almost be a monumental accomplishment.
 
I expect him to step in and pick up right where he left off. As far as I'm aware, this offense hasn't changed from the one it's been the last few years at all. There's nothing new for him to learn this time.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I expect him to step in and pick up right where he left off. As far as I'm aware, this offense hasn't changed from the one it's been the last few years at all. There's nothing new for him to learn this time.
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Then your expectations would go against past history. Players coming back early from ACL injuries don't come back at the same level their first year. I don't have time to scramble for stats on this one, but it's pretty common knowledge at this point.
 
I read in the Seattle Post Intellegencer that Holmgren is hopeful Branch will practice today.

 
Looks like everyone is pushing (the player, the coach, etc.) to NOT have Branch on the PUP.

Even if he's gimpy through Week 2 or 3, this is an undervalued player right now.

 
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