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Drafts this Weekend (1 Viewer)

pagermill

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My main league's draft is this week and was curious as to where Steven Jackson has been falling to.

Have those who have drafted lately seen him dropping past the top 5 or is there still a belief that he'll be in camp and taking him a 3 or 4 is worth while.

 
i really wish this guy reported to camp on time so i could take him with confidence at 1.02 in a redraft PPR

unfortunately, i can't take the risk that he doesn't play at all

in reality, no one in the first round should take that risk either - but someone will

SJax and his agent haven't even been TALKING with the Rams office this whole time!

 
Coach Scott Linehan says the Rams and holdout running back Steven Jackson have had talks about a possible contract extension.

With training camp practices over, the Rams need to get these talks moving. He's their best player. "I know they have had some talks," Linehan said. "I know it's moving along. Whatever that means, it sounds positive to me." Aug. 15 - 9:18 pm et

Source: Associated Press

Rams OL Mark Setterstrom was carted off the field Saturday with a knee injury. Scott Linehan said after the game Setterstrom likely suffered a fractured kneecap.

Are the Rams offensive line injury problems starting again? The same knee knocked Setterstrom out for 13 games last season. He opened this camp as a starter, but was a reserve last week after injury issues early in camp. Linehan said the injury would likely be season-ending. Aug. 16 - 11:00 pm et

Source: Belleville News-Democrat

 
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
 
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
I'm happy but not thrilled...with the O'line situation and him not being in camp reminds me a lot of the LJ situation last year..
 
Well at MFL since the start of this weekend (42 real drafts) - here are the results. He is sitting 6th, but his avg. is actually 7.35 pick and has a low of 2nd and a high of 18th - this must be the Rams hater monthly card club league.

1. 1.01 Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 1.44 1 4 36

2. 1.02 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 2.29 1 7 34

3. 1.03 Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 4.32 1 8 37

4. 1.04 Brady, Tom NEP QB 4.47 1 12 36

5. 1.05 Addai, Joseph IND RB 5.42 1 15 36

6. 1.06 Jackson, Steven STL RB 7.35 2 18 37

7. 1.07 Moss, Randy NEP WR 9.31 3 19 36

 
Seems a little risky for a number 5 pick to me. I am drafting at 8 I will take my chance with an elite RB at 8. But at 5 I think I would consider Marion Barber over the risk.

 
I just drafted yesterday and got him at 1.07. Everyone was too nervous to take him and I nearly did myself.

I hope he reports or I'll be starting Lendale White and Brandon Jacobs...

 
Much ado about nothing, IMO - there is no way the Rams will allow the season to open w/o renegotiating with SJax. Reminds me a lot of Priest and the Chiefs a few years ago.

Unless folks really believe SJax needs preseason to be ready for the season, I don't see a reason to do more than downgrade SJax to the bottom of the top-5/top-6 (ie - LT, AD, Westie, Addai, maybe Gore, then SJax)

 
Took Portis over him at 1.7 in my money league yesterday. Don't want to deal with his crap. that Line still sucks too, Portis is much safer.

 
Took Portis over him at 1.7 in my money league yesterday. Don't want to deal with his crap. that Line still sucks too, Portis is much safer.
Hmm, I kind of forgot about Portis.He looks really good right now - in a PPR, I'd take SJax over Portis, but in a non-PPR league this would be a tough call.This is interesting to me since I am in the 5-hole this Thursday and am likely to have my choice of at least three of Addai/Gore/SJax/Portis (assuming LT-Westie-AD go 1-2-3, there's a slight chance 4 could be Brady to the Pats freek who drafts at 4)
 
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
Didn't work out till well with LJ just last year :lmao:
Totally different. LJ's problem wasn't holding out. :thanks:
It wasn't?If you combine the holdout with the question marks on the offensive line... I would say the situations are very similar.
 
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
:lmao: Seriously, who was the last RB to do that - Emmitt Smith?
 
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
Didn't work out till well with LJ just last year :boxing:
Totally different. LJ's problem wasn't holding out. :thumbdown:
It wasn't?If you combine the holdout with the question marks on the offensive line... I would say the situations are very similar.
Sure. If you ignore the broken foot.
 
Larry Johnson carried the ball 429 times in 17 games in 06 before breaking down.

Jackson carried the ball 237 times in 12 games in 07.

Not comparable at all. That historic workload was the primary reason LJ broke down in 07.

 
Props to all who have the fortitude to grab him in the first round, because I think I speak for a lot of folks when I say that I need the psychological comfort of knowing that my first rounder is a guy that I can count on. Starting things out with a holdout just gives me a sick feeling in my stomach. I know that most of the precedent suggests that he will report, but my gut simply won't let me get over the fact that he's not in camp.

 
Christo said:
Tong Po said:
bcr8f said:
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
Didn't work out till well with LJ just last year :own3d:
Totally different. LJ's problem wasn't holding out. :P
It wasn't?If you combine the holdout with the question marks on the offensive line... I would say the situations are very similar.
Sure. If you ignore the broken foot.
Forgive me. I assumed we were talking about LJ's production before he broke his foot. I believe the original point was that LJ held out most of camp, had an O-Line in turmoil and struggled as a result. I'll add that the entire Rams offense looks like garbage right now. The Chiefs starting offense wasn't exactly lighting it up in the preseason last year. So the situation in my eyes is very similar.
 
Christo said:
Tong Po said:
bcr8f said:
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
Didn't work out till well with LJ just last year ;)
Totally different. LJ's problem wasn't holding out. :popcorn:
It wasn't?If you combine the holdout with the question marks on the offensive line... I would say the situations are very similar.
Sure. If you ignore the broken foot.
Forgive me. I assumed we were talking about LJ's production before he broke his foot. I believe the original point was that LJ held out most of camp, had an O-Line in turmoil and struggled as a result. I'll add that the entire Rams offense looks like garbage right now. The Chiefs starting offense wasn't exactly lighting it up in the preseason last year. So the situation in my eyes is very similar.
There was nothing for you to assume. The issue was missing games after a holdout:
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
Besides, it was pretty much the consensus around here that you should let someone else draft him in the first round then try to grab him after he didn't perform well early. On top of the fact that he missed most of camp his SOS was very tough at the beginning of the year. And while he did have a rough start over the first five weeks, he scored 20, 22 and 22.5 points (PPR scoring) in the three games before he was injured.
 
Christo said:
Tong Po said:
bcr8f said:
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
Didn't work out till well with LJ just last year :boxing:
Totally different. LJ's problem wasn't holding out. :thumbdown:
It wasn't?If you combine the holdout with the question marks on the offensive line... I would say the situations are very similar.
Sure. If you ignore the broken foot.
Forgive me. I assumed we were talking about LJ's production before he broke his foot. I believe the original point was that LJ held out most of camp, had an O-Line in turmoil and struggled as a result. I'll add that the entire Rams offense looks like garbage right now. The Chiefs starting offense wasn't exactly lighting it up in the preseason last year. So the situation in my eyes is very similar.
There was nothing for you to assume. The issue was missing games after a holdout:
he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.
You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.
Besides, it was pretty much the consensus around here that you should let someone else draft him in the first round then try to grab him after he didn't perform well early. On top of the fact that he missed most of camp his SOS was very tough at the beginning of the year. And while he did have a rough start over the first five weeks, he scored 20, 22 and 22.5 points (PPR scoring) in the three games before he was injured.
Well I remember much of the talk surrounding LJ last year because I owned him in a keeper league. So I followed a lot of the discussion through the preseason. Most of the negative discussion about Johnson focused on the following points:1) He's missing too much camp and may end up having a slow start as a result.

2) He may be more prone to injury as a result of not being in football shape.

3) His offense line had issues and wasn't looking nearly as good as the previous year.

4) He was backed up by erratic QB play.

5) He would be playing for a team that will lose a lot of games, hurting his value.

Now, if you look at Jackson and his situation with the Rams....

1) Same deal... missing too much camp.

2) LJ's injury came in the middle of the season and had nothing to do with being in football shape... but still a concern for Jackson.

3) The Rams have some issues on the O-Line.

4) I would say that Bulger's play so far could be classified as erratic.

5) The Rams will probably lose a lot of games.

So my point is, you can easily draw parallels between the 2 situations. But hey, that's just my opinion. Carry on.

 

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