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Ted Ginn Jr (1 Viewer)

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He was a top 10 pick last year so he has talent. Slot WR on a team with a great OLine and a QB who cant throw deep. Hes gonna get a ton of receptions IMO. Reminds me of a situation similar to Welker's last year. Obviously I dont expect the same #s as Welker had last year but he could be a poor man's version.

 
He was a top 10 pick last year so he has talent. Slot WR on a team with a great OLine and a QB who cant throw deep. Hes gonna get a ton of receptions IMO. Reminds me of a situation similar to Welker's last year. Obviously I dont expect the same #s as Welker had last year but he could be a poor man's version.
I could be mistaken, but I dont think Ginn is in the slot. I think right now, he and Hagan are out wide, and Davonne Bess is in the slot.Regardless, I have been trying to get Ginn away from the owner in my league. I think he sill have a decent year and a solid career. He is not coming cheap though.
 
Yeah he was on my radar even before Pennington showed up, so his arrival just boosted what was an already brewing favorite of mine. Not that Pennington is a top-notch QB or anything, but when you compare him to Josh McCown and John Beck, he's going to get Ginn Jr. the ball. Ginn would have likely gotten a lot more targets this year regardless of the QB, but at least with Pennington throwing the targets, he should have a better chance at converting them.

 
He was a top 10 pick last year so he has talent. Slot WR on a team with a great OLine and a QB who cant throw deep. Hes gonna get a ton of receptions IMO. Reminds me of a situation similar to Welker's last year. Obviously I dont expect the same #s as Welker had last year but he could be a poor man's version.
I could be mistaken, but I dont think Ginn is in the slot. I think right now, he and Hagan are out wide, and Davonne Bess is in the slot.Regardless, I have been trying to get Ginn away from the owner in my league. I think he sill have a decent year and a solid career. He is not coming cheap though.
Yes he is the starter but when they goto 3 WR sets wouldnt it make the most sense to put him in the slot? Kind of like how the Seahawks use Engram
 
He was a top 10 pick last year so he has talent. Slot WR on a team with a great OLine and a QB who cant throw deep. Hes gonna get a ton of receptions IMO. Reminds me of a situation similar to Welker's last year. Obviously I dont expect the same #s as Welker had last year but he could be a poor man's version.
I could be mistaken, but I dont think Ginn is in the slot. I think right now, he and Hagan are out wide, and Davonne Bess is in the slot.Regardless, I have been trying to get Ginn away from the owner in my league. I think he sill have a decent year and a solid career. He is not coming cheap though.
Yeah Ginn is the #1 wideout, especially with Earnest Wilford's fall down the depth chart. Hagan is the #2 opposite Ginn Jr. Rookie Davone Bess has a good shot at the starting slot job.
 
He was a top 10 pick last year so he has talent. Slot WR on a team with a great OLine and a QB who cant throw deep. Hes gonna get a ton of receptions IMO. Reminds me of a situation similar to Welker's last year. Obviously I dont expect the same #s as Welker had last year but he could be a poor man's version.
I could be mistaken, but I dont think Ginn is in the slot. I think right now, he and Hagan are out wide, and Davonne Bess is in the slot.Regardless, I have been trying to get Ginn away from the owner in my league. I think he sill have a decent year and a solid career. He is not coming cheap though.
Yes he is the starter but when they goto 3 WR sets wouldnt it make the most sense to put him in the slot? Kind of like how the Seahawks use Engram
Your right, they'll definitely line up Ginn in the slot in some situations. He'll be doing a lot of work out wide as well though.
 
He was a top 10 pick last year so he has talent. Slot WR on a team with a great OLine and a QB who cant throw deep. Hes gonna get a ton of receptions IMO. Reminds me of a situation similar to Welker's last year. Obviously I dont expect the same #s as Welker had last year but he could be a poor man's version.
I could be mistaken, but I dont think Ginn is in the slot. I think right now, he and Hagan are out wide, and Davonne Bess is in the slot.Regardless, I have been trying to get Ginn away from the owner in my league. I think he sill have a decent year and a solid career. He is not coming cheap though.
Yes he is the starter but when they goto 3 WR sets wouldnt it make the most sense to put him in the slot? Kind of like how the Seahawks use Engram
Welker is a couple of inches shorter than ginn and 10-15 lbs heavier- hes stocky (for a WR) and powerfull, Ginn is a speadster and would be foolish to run him over the middle ala Wes. Ginn should be at his best finding deep seams or on comeback passes when the DB gives him a big cushion.
 
He's my WR2 in a dynasty league. I expect top 10 numbers out of him (THIS YEAR :whistle: )

 
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Yeah - I love him until he gets so hyped that he is going in the 9th-10th Rd or lower. Happens every year with several guys. I just can't take him there. I will be watching ADP movement closely until our draft.

 
He will show drastic improvement this season. I traded for him in many dynasty leagues this past off-season for dirt cheap.

Too late now as his value is on the rise with a bullet.

 
He's a speedster that is having to learn how to play WR.
I think its important to remember that Ted Ginn Jr. isn't the fastest learner, and I don't mean that in a malicious way. I've heard him say on occasion that it takes him a while to catch on to certain things... once he gets it, he excels.Whether or not he excels on this level remains to be seen, but I do think patience is the name of the game with Ginn... once he starts putting the pieces together he's going to be dangerous.
 
Way, way, way too overhyped right now.

I like Pennington as an NFL qb, he is smart, and can be accurate. But what he can't do is throw a deep ball. He has one of the weakest, if not the weakest, arm in the NFL. Ginn is a burner, you aren't going to see him go over the middle much. He is probably a # 5 WR this year for fantasy purposes. His best value will be next offseason. His stats will improve this year, although not likely enough to become a fantasy factor. Other gms will give up on him, and it would be a great time to scoop him up.

 
I have never believed in Ginn but even if I did I would think having a QB that doesn't go downfield would not be a good thing for a WR who's strength is the long ball. Hagan > Ginn.

 
Fins homer here, he has shown some great hands this offseason and the body language between him and pennington is great.

 
baconisgood said:
Welker is a couple of inches shorter than ginn and 10-15 lbs heavier- hes stocky (for a WR) and powerfull, Ginn is a speadster and would be foolish to run him over the middle ala Wes. Ginn should be at his best finding deep seams or on comeback passes when the DB gives him a big cushion.
:lmao: Not with Pennington throwing the ball. I think we'll see more from him in yards after the catch where he puts a move on the defender and uses his speed to run away.
 
Eh. Not that excited. Penny has a noodle arm and Safeties will play up and press the WR1 all game which will likely be Ginn.

Not crazy about anyone through the air on the Phins.

 
Way, way, way too overhyped right now.I like Pennington as an NFL qb, he is smart, and can be accurate. But what he can't do is throw a deep ball. He has one of the weakest, if not the weakest, arm in the NFL. Ginn is a burner, you aren't going to see him go over the middle much. He is probably a # 5 WR this year for fantasy purposes. His best value will be next offseason. His stats will improve this year, although not likely enough to become a fantasy factor. Other gms will give up on him, and it would be a great time to scoop him up.
IMO hes more of a YAC guy than a deep threat.
 
Way, way, way too overhyped right now.I like Pennington as an NFL qb, he is smart, and can be accurate. But what he can't do is throw a deep ball. He has one of the weakest, if not the weakest, arm in the NFL. Ginn is a burner, you aren't going to see him go over the middle much. He is probably a # 5 WR this year for fantasy purposes. His best value will be next offseason. His stats will improve this year, although not likely enough to become a fantasy factor. Other gms will give up on him, and it would be a great time to scoop him up.
IMO hes more of a YAC guy than a deep threat.
yep thats what I am banking on. I drafted my WRs late in one league and he was my second taken. (CJ, Ginn, Rice, Hackett, Walker....yuk)
 
I don't know that I love him (yet) but I thought he was worth throwing a late pick at. We'll see what happens but he's got opportunity and talent so lets see what he does with it.

 
Just took him in the 9th, as WR4 in a league that starts 3. These are the rounds to take some shots that are more promising than 'fliers' (or defenses if you're that kind of owner :lmao: ) and I think Ginn is a great value here. Most projections I see for Ginn have him around 55 catches, but I think he can get 70 easily with Pennington there. I would not rely on him as a starter, but I think Ginn will be as good as Bowe and other guys drafted higher this year.

 
Way, way, way too overhyped right now.

I like Pennington as an NFL qb, he is smart, and can be accurate. But what he can't do is throw a deep ball.
Wrong. He can throw it deep and pretty nicely. His weak arm comes into play when he has a small window to zip it into or on a deep out or something like that. He never had a problem throwing it deep. Try to find some Santana Moss Jet highlights to see.
 
Way, way, way too overhyped right now.

I like Pennington as an NFL qb, he is smart, and can be accurate. But what he can't do is throw a deep ball.
Wrong. He can throw it deep and pretty nicely. His weak arm comes into play when he has a small window to zip it into or on a deep out or something like that. He never had a problem throwing it deep. Try to find some Santana Moss Jet highlights to see.
I don't know enough about Chad, but I know that most people used to criticize Tom Brady for his lack of arm strength too. Brady made the point that just because he doesnt wing it downfield, it doesnt mean he's got a weak arm. He said that in the NFL, EVERYONE has a strong arm. No NFL QB has a 'weak arm,' it's about the system you're in and picking the open guy.I'm going with Brady on this one. I know Chad has burned the Pats on some deep passes before.

 
In leagues where you get points for KR/PR yards he's likely a top ten wr at the end of the year with top 5 upside...
That depends on how much you get for return yards.I'm in a league where return yards are 1/10 and what you said is definitely the case, but I've seen others where its 1/25 and it just bumps him up to WR2/3 range. You just need to do the math to see where that ranks him. 1,500 total return yards is a safe bet and he could top 1,800 this year.
 
In leagues where you get points for KR/PR yards he's likely a top ten wr at the end of the year with top 5 upside...
That depends on how much you get for return yards.I'm in a league where return yards are 1/10 and what you said is definitely the case, but I've seen others where its 1/25 and it just bumps him up to WR2/3 range. You just need to do the math to see where that ranks him. 1,500 total return yards is a safe bet and he could top 1,800 this year.
I believe 1 point for 20 return yards is relatively standard...in that format let's say he gets 1500 total return yards. That's 75 points. Now let's say he gets 600 receiving yards (no ppr). Toss in 4 total touchdowns. I think those are very conservative numbers - would anyone disagree? Last year that would have ranked him as the #14 wr - just behind Holt. Going off Dodds' projections that would rank him as the #13 wr this season. If he catches 900+ yards as JGalligan and others are projecting? Top 5 season. I'm strongly considering trading Holt for Ginn in my league...
 
In leagues where you get points for KR/PR yards he's likely a top ten wr at the end of the year with top 5 upside...
That depends on how much you get for return yards.I'm in a league where return yards are 1/10 and what you said is definitely the case, but I've seen others where its 1/25 and it just bumps him up to WR2/3 range. You just need to do the math to see where that ranks him. 1,500 total return yards is a safe bet and he could top 1,800 this year.
I believe 1 point for 20 return yards is relatively standard...in that format let's say he gets 1500 total return yards. That's 75 points. Now let's say he gets 600 receiving yards (no ppr). Toss in 4 total touchdowns. I think those are very conservative numbers - would anyone disagree? Last year that would have ranked him as the #14 wr - just behind Holt. Going off Dodds' projections that would rank him as the #13 wr this season. If he catches 900+ yards as JGalligan and others are projecting? Top 5 season. I'm strongly considering trading Holt for Ginn in my league...
It also depends on what the receiving yardage points are. A 1:2 ratio or better and return yards will be VERY significant. 1:3 or worse and its just a consideration.
 
I have Ginn on my dynasty team (drafted him best available player at #7 rookie pick last year), and realistically, I'm just hoping to get "Lee Evans" type performance from him over his career and be a solid #3-#4 WR on my roster. With his small size, I think future "stud"/ top 5 WR has cards stacked against him Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison are anomolies.

 

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