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Chris Brown to get cut? (1 Viewer)

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Texans to cut injured runner Chris Brown?

Injured Chris Brown "seems unlikely" to make the Texans' 53-man roster, according to the Houston Chronicle's Richard Justice.

For background, Justice is a reputable sportswriter but a mostly a columnist and isn't reporting. Still, this shows that even those in Houston don't have an idea as to how the Texans' backfield will play out. Rookie Steve Slaton is the only back with a sure prominent role. We'll find out more at Tuesday's first cuts, then get some clarity by next Saturday when final rosters are set. Aug. 25 - 12:21 am et

Source: Houston Chronicle

 
Unless Brown's injury is worse than reported, his contract is unmanageable, or a vet FA is about to be signed, I don't see how this would make sense considering the lack of depth/experience at the RB position for the Texans.

 
Avery said:
Unless Brown's injury is worse than reported, his contract is unmanageable, or a vet FA is about to be signed, I don't see how this would make sense considering the lack of depth/experience at the RB position for the Texans.
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I tihnk it completely has to do with dependability. Brown is an antonym of dependable. I can see Houston using his roster spot for someone else. I certainly will.
 
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
Unless Brown's injury is worse than reported, his contract is unmanageable, or a vet FA is about to be signed, I don't see how this would make sense considering the lack of depth/experience at the RB position for the Texans.
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I tihnk it completely has to do with dependability. Brown is an antonym of dependable. I can see Houston using his roster spot for someone else. I certainly will.
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Is a rookie dependable?Is Green dependable at this point in his career?It's not like they have all these great/proven options at RB to make Brown so expendable.He's arguably the most talented back on the roster although he clearly has injury issues. Having said that, no one expects his brittle body to carry the entire load on what will most likely be a big committee.
 
Avery said:
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
Unless Brown's injury is worse than reported, his contract is unmanageable, or a vet FA is about to be signed, I don't see how this would make sense considering the lack of depth/experience at the RB position for the Texans.
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I tihnk it completely has to do with dependability. Brown is an antonym of dependable. I can see Houston using his roster spot for someone else. I certainly will.
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Is a rookie dependable?
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Physically? Yes, certainly more than Brown. At least a rookie has some potential. I can see them keeping either Brown or Green but not both. At the beginning of camp, I thought they would cut Green. Now, I can see it being Brown.
 
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
Unless Brown's injury is worse than reported, his contract is unmanageable, or a vet FA is about to be signed, I don't see how this would make sense considering the lack of depth/experience at the RB position for the Texans.
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I tihnk it completely has to do with dependability. Brown is an antonym of dependable. I can see Houston using his roster spot for someone else. I certainly will.
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Is a rookie dependable?
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Physically? Yes, certainly more than Brown. At least a rookie has some potential. I can see them keeping either Brown or Green but not both. At the beginning of camp, I thought they would cut Green. Now, I can see it being Brown.
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Slayton could be more physically dependable but, givne his low BMI and lack of NFL carries, who knows?More importantly, however, is that there is a whole lot more to dependability then physical prowess. For example, rookie RBs are rarely dependable in the blocking department making him a potential risk to a to a somewhat brittle Matt Schaub on 3rd/obvious passing downs.
 
I thought Stanton would be the guy if Green were out and Brown were cut.

What's the consensus on Stanton vs. Green?

 
Avery said:
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
Unless Brown's injury is worse than reported, his contract is unmanageable, or a vet FA is about to be signed, I don't see how this would make sense considering the lack of depth/experience at the RB position for the Texans.
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I tihnk it completely has to do with dependability. Brown is an antonym of dependable. I can see Houston using his roster spot for someone else. I certainly will.
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Is a rookie dependable?
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Physically? Yes, certainly more than Brown. At least a rookie has some potential. I can see them keeping either Brown or Green but not both. At the beginning of camp, I thought they would cut Green. Now, I can see it being Brown.
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Slayton could be more physically dependable but, givne his low BMI and lack of NFL carries, who knows?More importantly, however, is that there is a whole lot more to dependability then physical prowess. For example, rookie RBs are rarely dependable in the blocking department making him a potential risk to a to a somewhat brittle Matt Schaub on 3rd/obvious passing downs.
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The "who knows" with Slaton is better (physically) than the "what you know" with Brown and Green. I don't think they will rely on Slaton this year to carry the load. It looks like they are completely comfortable with Taylor.
 
It's been speculated for a while that one of Green or Brown was going to be cut September 1 - if Brown's hurt and Green's not the decision's pretty much already been made.

 
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
BuckeyeArt said:
Avery said:
Unless Brown's injury is worse than reported, his contract is unmanageable, or a vet FA is about to be signed, I don't see how this would make sense considering the lack of depth/experience at the RB position for the Texans.
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I tihnk it completely has to do with dependability. Brown is an antonym of dependable. I can see Houston using his roster spot for someone else. I certainly will.
Click to expand...
Is a rookie dependable?
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Physically? Yes, certainly more than Brown. At least a rookie has some potential. I can see them keeping either Brown or Green but not both. At the beginning of camp, I thought they would cut Green. Now, I can see it being Brown.
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Slayton could be more physically dependable but, givne his low BMI and lack of NFL carries, who knows?More importantly, however, is that there is a whole lot more to dependability then physical prowess. For example, rookie RBs are rarely dependable in the blocking department making him a potential risk to a to a somewhat brittle Matt Schaub on 3rd/obvious passing downs.
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The "who knows" with Slaton is better (physically) than the "what you know" with Brown and Green. I don't think they will rely on Slaton this year to carry the load. It looks like they are completely comfortable with Taylor.
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combo of both with more going to slaton imo
 
I would not be surprised to see this shake out with Taylor getting the heavy lifting here with Slaton a change of pace/3rd down back. The example here would be how Shanny used Mike Anderson very effectively as a converted FB. Of course this is all based on the assumption that Green continues to be hampered by injury.

Question here for me is how effective could Slaton be as a bell cow type of runner. He doesn't appear to have the build of a MJD so could he withstand the punishment over the course of a season?

 
I would say that if Green is healthy (which I recognize as a problem) he will be the starter.

So far I have not heard he looked bad when he was practicing healthy.

With that said, I sure like Slaton where he is going in drafts.

 
ookook said:
I would say that if Green is healthy (which I recognize as a problem) he will be the starter. So far I have not heard he looked bad when he was practicing healthy. With that said, I sure like Slaton where he is going in drafts.
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In my recent draft, Chris Brown went in the 9th, Slaton went in the 13th, and I drafted Green in the 15th :whistle:
 
blackjack23 said:
ookook said:
I would say that if Green is healthy (which I recognize as a problem) he will be the starter. So far I have not heard he looked bad when he was practicing healthy. With that said, I sure like Slaton where he is going in drafts.
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In my recent draft, Chris Brown went in the 9th, Slaton went in the 13th, and I drafted Green in the 15th :whistle:
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I have Green in one league (Hyper Active 3), but I'm afraid Taylor might be the one to have. Green appears shot.
 
Avery said:
sholditch said:
Oscar said:
I thought Stanton would be the guy if Green were out and Brown were cut.

What's the consensus on Stanton vs. Green?
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Brittle inexperienced QB vs brittle experienced vet RB. Don't see what this has to do with Houston
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You are joking, right? :lmao:
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I missed it the first time. Look again. Det qb who is hurt yet again.
 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
NFL Headlines

Texans to cut injured runner Chris Brown?

Injured Chris Brown "seems unlikely" to make the Texans' 53-man roster, according to the Houston Chronicle's Richard Justice.

For background, Justice is a reputable sportswriter but a mostly a columnist and isn't reporting. Still, this shows that even those in Houston don't have an idea as to how the Texans' backfield will play out. Rookie Steve Slaton is the only back with a sure prominent role. We'll find out more at Tuesday's first cuts, then get some clarity by next Saturday when final rosters are set. Aug. 25 - 12:21 am et

Source: Houston Chronicle
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Of everything in this thread, this is the most accuarate. From I can figure out between the words of Kubiak and what they are actually doing here is my take.A. Green- is the starter IF healthy. Even if that is the case he is probably around 15-18 carry max.

Slaton- is at least the change of pace back (assuming the turf toe is not more serious than they are letting on). My guess is that he will be given as much as he can handle. The safest in a totally jumbled situation.

Taylor- If Green is out, I think the Dallas game would be an example of how he and Slaton would be used. He is a more myth than substance though, but in this situation he still has a chance to be productive for a year or two.

Brown- he may have nagging injured himself out of opportunity. Only played in one game and did not look good. He did not get any kind of crazy signing bonus, so he can be cut quite easily. Still in my mind, if one back on the Texans came from no where to a huge year, Brown would be that guy. At the end of the day, i don't think he will stay healthy enough and not fumble at key times to do so.

Walker- he is going to get what is blocked, but does not have any dynamic physical charateristic which will allow be more than a good fill-in type player. May still be able to stuff him on the practice squad. Probably cut and told to sit on the PS or by the phone.

Shipp- just a body to get the RBs through camp and this last pre-season game.

Other FAs- would not be surprised to see a another boring, mediocore veteran signed after cuts go down. Duckett and T. Bell have connection to the staff.

My guess is that the Green, Brown, Taylor and Slaton make the initial 53 with Walker on PS if eligible. Taylor would technically be the back-up at FB and RB if everyone is healthy (that's funny). In short, this is a mess, but if you get the right guy there is value, but even as a homer not sure how much time and energy, i would want to base my fantasy life on.

 
Im a homer as well and im LOST to the situation.

Green and Brown havent done there self any justice here.

Green has a injury knock on him from last year and the 1st carry of this preseason.

Brown has always been injured and while he look like he ran with authority in the 1st game (although there wasnt no holes where he was running), he looks to be similar with Chris Taylor. Pretty much making him expendable. I dunno???

Team very well could have Taylor starting with Slaton backing him up in a rbbc.

Im crossing my fingers Pit cuts GARY RUSSELL and we bring him in. Im not a Tatum fan or Duckett fan, but i do know one rb out there that would atleast perform for us.

RON DAYNE.

 
I can't get my hands around this situation at all. I didn't think Brown would get cut, but somebody has to. And now that he is banged up that is making a lot more sense.

 
This reminds me of the Green Bay RB situation in pre-season last year. Green Bay had a battle between Brandon Jackson, DeShawn Wynn and even Veron Hayes for a little bit. Ryan Grant wasn't in the picture until late. Could Houston have a Ryan Grant-like situation brewing and if so, who plays Grant's role? :shrug: If I had to rank them all right now I have no idea. Maybe a slight lean to Slaton, simply because he fits their running system the best. It's still anyone's guess.

 
From this Texans homer's vantage point, I think it's unlikely that Chris Brown makes the cut.

Straight outta Kubiak's mouth yesterday:

(Brown and Green) “Well, you’ve got to be patient in this business. Guys get hurt, and there’s nothing you can do about it. The key is that you expect them back, and I would say right now there’s no doubt we expect Ahman back here pretty quickly. As far as Chris, I think it’s a day-to-day situation. Today’s not a good day. He’s not feeling good today, so I don’t know. We’ll have to see.”

(on the injuries to big-time players around the league and if it opens the door for the Texans) “Well, I don’t worry about other people. I worry about us. We’ve got our problems, too. That’s part of the NFL. Everybody’s got people nicked up. Everybody’s trying to get to opening day with what they think is a healthy football team and go from there. I’ve got to worry about our problems and see where we’re going to be here in the next 10-to-12 days and get ready to go to Pittsburgh.”

With the way Slaton and Taylor played against the Cowboys, I see them jettisoning Brown and either 1) keeping Marcel Shipp or 2) bringing in another team's roster cut, i.e. a guy like TJ Duckett.

 
Big Score said:
Avery said:
sholditch said:
Oscar said:
I thought Stanton would be the guy if Green were out and Brown were cut.What's the consensus on Stanton vs. Green?
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Brittle inexperienced QB vs brittle experienced vet RB. Don't see what this has to do with Houston
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You are joking, right? :wall:
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He's got his wires crossed.He's thinking Trent Green instead of Ahman Green.
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:wub: Talk about crossed wires.
 
For the uninitiated, anybody have any lowdown on Chris Taylor. Power/GL back. Any wiggle or burst?

I drafted him with my last pick yesterday and don't know much. It's a league that starts 30 RBs a week, so maybe some value?

 
FantasyTrader said:
Big Score said:
Avery said:
sholditch said:
Oscar said:
I thought Stanton would be the guy if Green were out and Brown were cut.What's the consensus on Stanton vs. Green?
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Brittle inexperienced QB vs brittle experienced vet RB. Don't see what this has to do with Houston
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You are joking, right? :P
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He's got his wires crossed.He's thinking Trent Green instead of Ahman Green.
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:lmao: Talk about crossed wires.
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He was just trying to crack a joke guys and poke fun at the OP's mistake of writing "Stanton" instead of "Slaton." He took the "Stanton v. Green" comment to be Drew Stanton v. Trent Green and thus his comments.As far as the thread goes, I was thinking that Slaton was the guy here but if he does have turf toe as Joe is saying, I don't see him having much of an impact. Depending on the severity, that stuff is a season ender for an RB and guarantees that he won't be effective this year. Plus, the team signed Shipp so, who knows, at some point he could be an option too.
 
rawdog said:
For the uninitiated, anybody have any lowdown on Chris Taylor. Power/GL back. Any wiggle or burst?I drafted him with my last pick yesterday and don't know much. It's a league that starts 30 RBs a week, so maybe some value?
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Taylor is around 5'11 220. He is a one cut and go guy, with OK burst and average long speed. he is better between the tackles, than trying to turn a corner. According to reports, his issue are not always making the correct cut, and some ball secuirty things in practice. He very much in the range of mediocore RB/FB tweeners that have seen a decent year or so in the ZBS and done a lot of nothing besides that.
 
Taylor's listed at 224 currently I believe - which is a nice weight for him at 5'11.2".

I've thought he was the Texan to own since pre-season and I still think so. He's a much bigger and more powerful back than Slaton. And 4.53 is a respectable time for someone his size too. If Green and Brown are out, he's definitely a two down and GL back IMO.

 
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I'm assuming Green will not do much this year. That said, will the Texans name a starter at some point, or will it just develop as the games progress? I agree that Taylor may be the guy here. I think it's safe to say it's between he and Slaton. I'm getting the feeling that Slaton will get some work as a COP guy and a few other plays. I drafted him in one redraft, but I think Taylor may be more durable and may be more 'between-the-tackles' friendly.

 
Slaton played in that ZBS at West Virginia up until last season. He could produce if Green can't get back on the field.

 
I'm calling it now. Taylor 15-20 touches and Slaton 5-10 touches each week. Green or Brown (or both) will get cut.

 
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^ for any HOU homer news on this situation. :unsure: :lmao:

ETA - found this

The biggest move the Texans likely will make today will center on the status of running back Chris Brown, who was not among the 21 players released. The Texans recently ordered more medical tests to be done on Brown’s back. They were studying the results and trying to decide what his future with the team will be. “We are trying to be as diligent as possible,” general manager Rick Smith said. “We had another MRI ordered the other day, and we’re assessing that and we’re assessing where we feel like he is as a player, and what his contribution can be on this football team this year. We want to exhaust every opportunity we can to make a good decision on that. So that’s what we’re doing.”

Source: Houston Chronicle

 
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