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Andre Hall to be goaline back? (1 Viewer)

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Deuce'sWild

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08/27/08 07:51 AM

THE NEWS

Broncos running back Andre Hall is going to get regular carries in the Denver offense, and because of his penchant for finding holes in the offensive line, could be used as the goal-line back, according to Sporting News Today.

Our View

Selvin Young is the starter in Denver, but everyone who plays fantasy football realizes that means little. And if Hall indeed does become the guy who runs the ball near the end zone, his fantasy stock takes a bump up.

Could be worth looking into. I stashed Hall on all three of my money league rosters. Might be worth a good look if he's available in your league, or if you haven't drafted yet.

 
I have Selvin Young as a potential keeper and leaning towards cutting him loose. It will cost me a 5th round pick to keep him and I really don't think I want to get involved in the Denver RB merry-go-round. Is there anyone that can convine me that Young is worthy of a 5th round pick.

 
"Here we go round the mulberry bush,"

"The mulberry bush,"

"The mulberry bush."

"Here we go round the mulberry bush"

"On a cold and frosty morning".

 
Godsbrother said:
I have Selvin Young as a potential keeper and leaning towards cutting him loose. It will cost me a 5th round pick to keep him and I really don't think I want to get involved in the Denver RB merry-go-round. Is there anyone that can convine me that Young is worthy of a 5th round pick.
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See MOP's RB Tier post. He's very high on him. Me...not so much. Especially with this news.
 
Godsbrother said:
I have Selvin Young as a potential keeper and leaning towards cutting him loose. It will cost me a 5th round pick to keep him and I really don't think I want to get involved in the Denver RB merry-go-round. Is there anyone that can convine me that Young is worthy of a 5th round pick.
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For a 5th that's high risk/high reward, I guess it depends how much you believe in him and the quality of alternatives you can acquire in the event that he loses the job or Satanahan returns.
 
Throughout the preseason, Hall has been running the ball near both goallines, with Selvin getting the carries between the 20s.

 
If Denver can move the ball, Hall could be a very nice RB2 if he does indeed get the goaline looks and gets 10 carries a game.

I'd say 8-10 Tds is a real possibility.

 
But now, fully entrenched in the Broncos offense and more decisive in his cuts, Hall is on the verge of playing a pivotal role in the Broncos backfield. His ascension has been so complete that Hall will be a spectator in Friday's preseason finale at Arizona (8 p.m. MDT, CBS 4).

"I told him the other day I was proud of him and that he'd come a long way," said Broncos running back Michael Pittman, who served as a big-brother figure to Hall in Tampa Bay.
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So what's the deal with this... is Selvin also getting the final PS game off, or should something be read into this blurb in the RMN?"Hall Relishes Comfort Zone"

 
Big Jim... great find! Looks like A. Hall is a possible steal late in drafts (if you can keep others in your league from finding this out)

Go grab him if you haven't already.

I remember last year he ran crazy on somebody (Bears maybe?) with a high ankle sprain. Kid is tough.

 
Deuce said:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised in Shanny names him the full time starter.
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Neither would I. This is one of the many reasons I wasn't as big on Selvin Young as many others were. I still think he's another Tatum Bell - a guy who will give you some decent games as a starter but won't hold up getting 20+ carries a game. I think Shanahan agrees with this sentiment which is why Hall is becoming a major factor (and why Torain might have become one had he not gotten hurt). Watching the Packers-Broncos game last Saturday, one of the things that struck me the most was how much work Hall got with the first team. I don't know how the snaps were divided up but it was very close to an equal split. Young looks to be the "starter" in name only. Hall looks like he could have a major role in the offense so he appears to be the value play. People are jumping on Young as if he's a Top 20 RB. Meanwhile, you can get a guy like Hall at the end of your draft. Well maybe not anymore.
 
Anyone who watched the Denver - Dallas preseason game knows that Hall should be getting the goalline carries. On one memorable play, Hall absolutely trucked through Zach Thomas and Tank Johnson. He later plowed into the endzone on an impressive goalline run. He doesn't look like much, but the dude packs a punch.

Meanwhile, Selvin Young was breaking no tackles as usual. Factor in his injury history and where he's being drafted, no thank you, I'll pass on Selvin and wait to the late rounds to grab Hall.

I can easily see this being a Mike Anderson/Tatum Bell redux. IMO, Hall is the value play, and Selvin is a reach at where's he's been going.

FWIW, I picked up Selvin Young in every league last year, so I'm definitely not a hater. I'm simply sold on Hall being the better back now.

 
BusMan said:
Throughout the preseason, Hall has been running the ball near both goallines, with Selvin getting the carries between the 20s.
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I saw Hall getting goal line and short yardage throughout the preseason as well so this really shouldn't be a surprise. The Broncos even used Hall when they were backed up on their own 1 and had to get the ball away from their own endzone. My take on the situation (if they continue what happened in preseason) is that Hall gets short yardage and goal line carries and is there to give Young a breather, and Young gets the rest (15 carries or so) along with a sprinkling of carries being given for Pittman and Sapp.
 
Everything aside I will say this, regardless of how Hall looked in preseason, he is still a smallish type back. If this is all Denver has then they are in serious trouble. It's time to bump up Cutler, and maybe Marshall or Shefler (if he starts) a bit.

 
Tubalcane said:
Everything aside I will say this, regardless of how Hall looked in preseason, he is still a smallish type back. If this is all Denver has then they are in serious trouble. It's time to bump up Cutler, and maybe Marshall or Shefler (if he starts) a bit.
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Smallish...like MJD smallish? He runs with force and has good vision. He's big enough.
 
there is no way A Hall becomes a full time starter, he is very small and could not take that much of a beating. he is great at the goaline, and a very tough runner jsut like everyone has mentioned. this will be RBBC. the coaches here in Denver have mentioned it on several occasions. everyone on this thread seems to think that Selvin YOung is a slouch, that is not teh case between the 20's. he is not great on teh goal line, but he is great in open space, they are a great compliment to one another, which is bad news for fantasy people. Hall is a great pickup late in your draft, he is going in round 12 in my one league, the other he went before Slevin Young in round 9, but that is a local Denver league.

just my 2 cents

 
Deuce said:
Tubalcane said:
Everything aside I will say this, regardless of how Hall looked in preseason, he is still a smallish type back. If this is all Denver has then they are in serious trouble. It's time to bump up Cutler, and maybe Marshall or Shefler (if he starts) a bit.
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Smallish...like MJD smallish? He runs with force and has good vision. He's big enough.
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:whistle:The "small guy" literally trucked through a defensive tackle and one of greatest MLB's of all time simultaneously in the Dallas game.
 
on espn they list a hall at 5-10, 210lbs. but the beat writers always say he is 5-8 here. so you can make your own decision on that.

 
Deuce said:
Big Jim... great find! Looks like A. Hall is a possible steal late in drafts (if you can keep others in your league from finding this out)Go grab him if you haven't already.I remember last year he ran crazy on somebody (Bears maybe?) with a high ankle sprain. Kid is tough.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of it myself. It does not surprise me when starters are rested for the 4th preseason games. But a short yardage guy? Are Aldridge/Pittman taking all the carries?
 
Deuce said:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised in Shanny names him the full time starter.
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I drafted him in all three of my leagues. I've thought for many weeks now that he would be named the eventual starter, and even if he wasn't the starter, he'll play more often in critical situations.My prediction: Andre Hall will be a household fantasy name by week #3, and the Rashard Mendenhals of the world, who are getting more press, will be forgotten.
 
:lmao: :banned:

daivos said:
Deuce said:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised in Shanny names him the full time starter.
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I drafted him in all three of my leagues. I've thought for many weeks now that he would be named the eventual starter, and even if he wasn't the starter, he'll play more often in critical situations.My prediction: Andre Hall will be a household fantasy name by week #3, and the Rashard Mendenhals of the world, who are getting more press, will be forgotten.
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Deuce said:
Big Jim... great find! Looks like A. Hall is a possible steal late in drafts (if you can keep others in your league from finding this out)Go grab him if you haven't already.I remember last year he ran crazy on somebody (Bears maybe?) with a high ankle sprain. Kid is tough.
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From the story linked above:"On Hall's first carry, he suffered a severe high ankle sprain, then another lower sprain in the same ankle on the same drive.He nonetheless finished with 26 carries for 98 yards and added a 65-yard reception. The next day, he barely could get around and was in a walking boot."I remember that game and how good he looked. I didn't recall him getting hurt on his first carry. Wow.
 
Man, I could not be more glad that I traded Young for Chris Chambers in my dynasty league. It will be my policy to never own a Denver back for more than half a season. That seems to be their shelf life these days. Also glad I nabbed Hall at the end of my 14-team draft.

 
Before the Andre Hall bandwagon gets moving too fast it's worth noting the Denver had 10 rushing TDs as a team last year. Henry and Young combined for 6. Predictions of Hall getting 10+ by himself this year seem a little inflated.

 
Isn't Hall returning kicks as well? If your league awards pts for return yds (1pt every 20yds in mine) that's another plus for him.

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Before the Andre Hall bandwagon gets moving too fast it's worth noting the Denver had 10 rushing TDs as a team last year. Henry and Young combined for 6. Predictions of Hall getting 10+ by himself this year seem a little inflated.
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You convienently left out the fact that the Denver oline was in complete shambles last year due to injuries. They should be much better this season.
 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Before the Andre Hall bandwagon gets moving too fast it's worth noting the Denver had 10 rushing TDs as a team last year. Henry and Young combined for 6. Predictions of Hall getting 10+ by himself this year seem a little inflated.
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He's a better back than Selvin Young and Shanahan has longed for a back that can move the pile.
 
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We're been beating the drum about Hall since last preseason on the Audible. Just like that Bears game discussed above, Hall will impress if he's given a chance. I've been pulling the trigger on him around the 14th-15th in most leagues, but it's getting harder to steal him late.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
We're been beating the drum about Hall since last preseason on the Audible. Just like that Bears game discussed above, Hall will impress if he's given a chance. I've been pulling the trigger on him around the 14th-15th in most leagues, but it's getting harder to steal him late.
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I remember, you are the reason I had him stashed on my dynasty squad since last September.Hopefully it pays off, and if it does thank you very much.
 
If it does pay off at any point, sell. Den RBs don't last long in terms of fantasy relevance. See: Droughns, Tatum Bell, Mike Bell

 
sholditch said:
If it does pay off at any point, sell. Den RBs don't last long in terms of fantasy relevance. See: Droughns, Tatum Bell, Mike Bell
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...Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Travis Henry.

Good point. Since Terrell Davis, there really hasnt been anyone that has been especially consistent year after year on that team.

 
bcr8f said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Before the Andre Hall bandwagon gets moving too fast it's worth noting the Denver had 10 rushing TDs as a team last year. Henry and Young combined for 6. Predictions of Hall getting 10+ by himself this year seem a little inflated.
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He's a better back than Selvin Young and Shanahan has longed for a back that can move the pile.
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On what grounds?
 
Doesn't Denver tend to at least primarily use one rb instead of using a heavy rbbc approach? :thumbup: (young/hall/torain owner)

 
Irish said:
ScoobyDoo said:
bcr8f said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Before the Andre Hall bandwagon gets moving too fast it's worth noting the Denver had 10 rushing TDs as a team last year. Henry and Young combined for 6. Predictions of Hall getting 10+ by himself this year seem a little inflated.
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He's a better back than Selvin Young and Shanahan has longed for a back that can move the pile.
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On what grounds?
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Invesco Field at Mile High
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:thumbup:
 
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Irish said:
ScoobyDoo said:
bcr8f said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Before the Andre Hall bandwagon gets moving too fast it's worth noting the Denver had 10 rushing TDs as a team last year. Henry and Young combined for 6. Predictions of Hall getting 10+ by himself this year seem a little inflated.
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He's a better back than Selvin Young and Shanahan has longed for a back that can move the pile.
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On what grounds?
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Invesco Field at Mile High
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That is one of the funniest replies I have seen in a while. My thoughts on the Denver RBs is that drafting the #1RB on the depth chart leads to too many worries about getting the other Denver RBs as backups, given that the #1 seems jinxed. However, getting a backup for cheap seems the way to go, since you can almost count on that backup producing at some point. Take the #2 backup and keep him on your roster.
 
Irish said:
ScoobyDoo said:
bcr8f said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Before the Andre Hall bandwagon gets moving too fast it's worth noting the Denver had 10 rushing TDs as a team last year. Henry and Young combined for 6. Predictions of Hall getting 10+ by himself this year seem a little inflated.
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He's a better back than Selvin Young and Shanahan has longed for a back that can move the pile.
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On what grounds?
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Invesco Field at Mile High
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:confused:
 
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