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Eli Manning to eclipse 600 passing attempts? (1 Viewer)

Maven

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Eli's Passing Attempts:

07 - 557

06 - 522

05 - 529

Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to catch up in games and Eli will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008.

Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?

A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year.

Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 580-600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs.

What do you guys think?

 
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With the o-line they have, and the huge stable of rb's, I suspect they will lean on the running game too much for him to pass 600 times.

Only one QB passed more than 600 times last season (Brees).

 
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The Giants with Coughlin have passed 544, 523, 558, and 475 times. I don't see them turning into the Saints anytime soon . . .

 
Maven said:
Eli's Passing Attempts:

07 - 557

06 - 522

05 - 529

Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008.

Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?

A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year.

Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs.

What do you guys think?
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Strahan, Umenyora, Wilson...who are the other two?
 
sholditch said:
Maven said:
Eli's Passing Attempts:

07 - 557

06 - 522

05 - 529

Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008.

Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?

A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year.

Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs.

What do you guys think?
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Strahan, Umenyora, Wilson...who are the other two?
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They lost the starting linebacker Kawika Mitchell to the Buffalo Bills, safety Gibril Wilson to the Oakland Raiders and the backup linebacker Reggie Torbor to the Miami Dolphins, Strahan retired and now Umenyora to injury.Total Team Sacks = 53

Strahan .............. - 9

Umenyora .......... - 13

Wilson ............... - 0 (4ints)

Torbor ............... - 1

Mitchell .............. - 3.5

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(-26.5) sacks lost from last year...

Writing is on the wall for this D to struggle...

No one agrees? You would think this has an impact on the passing game. Teams will just be able to sit back and throw all day forcing the Giants to catch up.

Eli has already hoovered around 525-550 attempts in the past few years. I see at least 30-40 more attempts putting him near 600 attempts.

 
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The player spotlight on this site calls out Mannings rankings over the past 3 years:

"Eli has thrown for at least 23 touchdowns in each of his full seasons. Over the last three years, his 71 touchdowns ranks 5th among NFL quarterbacks"

"In the last three years Eli Manning's 1608 pass attempts ranks 4th among NFL quarterbacks"

I don't opportunities are the problem for Eli Manning. The bigger issue is his accuracy and his int rate. I personally am hoping he turns the corner. I waited to grab a qb late in one of my drafts and it is looking like Eli will be my starter. I do think he is a safer pick than Rodgers, Bulger, Rivers, etc.

 
Maven said:
sholditch said:
Maven said:
Eli's Passing Attempts:

07 - 557

06 - 522

05 - 529

Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008.

Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?

A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year.

Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs.

What do you guys think?
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Strahan, Umenyora, Wilson...who are the other two?
Click to expand...
They lost the starting linebacker Kawika Mitchell to the Buffalo Bills, safety Gibril Wilson to the Oakland Raiders and the backup linebacker Reggie Torbor to the Miami Dolphins, Strahan retired and now Umenyora to injury.Total Team Sacks = 53

Strahan .............. - 9

Umenyora .......... - 13

Wilson ............... - 0 (4ints)

Torbor ............... - 1

Mitchell .............. - 3.5

--------

(-26.5) sacks lost from last year...

Writing is on the wall for this D to struggle...

No one agrees? You would think this has an impact on the passing game. Teams will just be able to sit back and throw all day forcing the Giants to catch up.

Eli has already hoovered around 525-550 attempts in the past few years. I see at least 30-40 more attempts putting him near 600 attempts.
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Tuck makes up half of that on his own. He is ready to dominate the league. And Kiwanuka wont be a slouch rushing the passer either.

 
RBM said:
Maven said:
sholditch said:
Maven said:
Eli's Passing Attempts:

07 - 557

06 - 522

05 - 529

Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008.

Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?

A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year.

Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs.

What do you guys think?
Click to expand...
Strahan, Umenyora, Wilson...who are the other two?
Click to expand...
They lost the starting linebacker Kawika Mitchell to the Buffalo Bills, safety Gibril Wilson to the Oakland Raiders and the backup linebacker Reggie Torbor to the Miami Dolphins, Strahan retired and now Umenyora to injury.Total Team Sacks = 53

Strahan .............. - 9

Umenyora .......... - 13

Wilson ............... - 0 (4ints)

Torbor ............... - 1

Mitchell .............. - 3.5

--------

(-26.5) sacks lost from last year...

Writing is on the wall for this D to struggle...

No one agrees? You would think this has an impact on the passing game. Teams will just be able to sit back and throw all day forcing the Giants to catch up.

Eli has already hoovered around 525-550 attempts in the past few years. I see at least 30-40 more attempts putting him near 600 attempts.
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Tuck makes up half of that on his own. He is ready to dominate the league. And Kiwanuka wont be a slouch rushing the passer either.
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I agree... althought alot of their success was due to attention being placed on Osi and Strahan... but besides that.. my point is they wont be able to get to the QB as effectively as last year. Agreed? My whole basis for this projection is based on the decline of the Giants D, which will lead to more Eli attempts. Hes hoovered around 550, and this year he may reach 580-600. If he just improves his accuracy at all to around 60%, you will see a huge increase bump in Plax's stats and Eli pass 30+ tds.

I think this is rational thinking...

 
If the Giants defense IS significantly worse this year - and I have my doubts about that - do you think that their average time of possession is likely to be greater than, or less than, the 31.22 they averaged last year? In other words, do you think the defense is going to be on the field longer, or shorter?

It's just as likely that, if the Giants' pass rush does decline this year, opposing offenses will be able to build more long, methodical drives without momentum-ending sacks, and there might be fewer three-and-outs. In other words, less time for the offense. And I'm also not sure that the Giants' playing from behind a lot will have a beneficial effect on Eli's stats - yes, he might conceivably have more pass attempts, but he will be playing against diffrerent defensive schemes too.

If I were an Eli owner, I'd want the Giants to be winning games and having an effective running game, rather than seeing him kept off the field for much of the game and then frantically trying to win it from behind, having abandoned the run, against a fresh, sack-hungry defense in the 4th quarter every week (not that I remotely think that's what will happen).

 
Lord Lucan said:
If the Giants defense IS significantly worse this year - and I have my doubts about that - do you think that their average time of possession is likely to be greater than, or less than, the 31.22 they averaged last year? In other words, do you think the defense is going to be on the field longer, or shorter? It's just as likely that, if the Giants' pass rush does decline this year, opposing offenses will be able to build more long, methodical drives without momentum-ending sacks, and there might be fewer three-and-outs. In other words, less time for the offense. And I'm also not sure that the Giants' playing from behind a lot will have a beneficial effect on Eli's stats - yes, he might conceivably have more pass attempts, but he will be playing against diffrerent defensive schemes too. If I were an Eli owner, I'd want the Giants to be winning games and having an effective running game, rather than seeing him kept off the field for much of the game and then frantically trying to win it from behind, having abandoned the run, against a fresh, sack-hungry defense in the 4th quarter every week (not that I remotely think that's what will happen).
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Great reply ...With the Giants defense being on the field longer, that may leave them with less time to operate on offense due to teams running out the clock...However, teams should be able to identify and exploit the Giants inability to get to the QB as effectively as they did last year, meaning faster drives for opposing offenses through the air, agreed?Your T.O.P. theory assumes teams will be able to consistently stop the Giants on offense from scoring and run the clock out? The Giants have too great of a o-line and run game to NOT score on opposing teams. I can see a lot of games possibly turning into shoot-outs. Does that mean more passing attempts than last year for Eli? I still think so. And if hes the slightest bit more accurate, that could mean a huge year? I dont know... just my thoughts.
 
Maven said:
Eli's Passing Attempts:07 - 55706 - 52205 - 529Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to catch up in games and Eli will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008. Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year. Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 580-600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs. What do you guys think?
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It's a pretty flawed theory all around.First of all, you're exaggerating the Giants losses on defense. None of Torbor, Kawika or Gibril were irreplaceable and that's why they were allowed to leave. Certainly losing Osi to injury and Strahan to retirement hurts their depth, but Tuck and Kiwi are more than capable of matching their level of play. Secondly, you're underestimating Steve Spagnulo and his scheme. This is year two, they'll be able to implement and utilize more of his sytem. That along with the increased talent in the secondary and better overall LB group should compensate for a slightly thinner DL. He will make the necessary adjustments and has more than enough tools to get the job done.Lastly, even if the defense does end up dropping off dramatically, why assume they will react by passing more? I suspect they would be more proactive and run more to maintain possession/ protect the D.
 
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Construction Man Jim said:
Maven said:
Eli's Passing Attempts:07 - 55706 - 52205 - 529Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to catch up in games and Eli will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008. Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year. Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 580-600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs. What do you guys think?
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It's a pretty flawed theory all around.First of all, you're exaggerating the Giants losses on defense. None of Torbor, Kawika or Gibril were irreplaceable and that's why they were allowed to leave. Certainly losing Osi to injury and Strahan to retirement hurts their depth, but Tuck and Kiwi are more than capable of matching their level of play. Secondly, you're underestimating Steve Spagnulo and his scheme. This is year two, they'll be able to implement and utilize more of his sytem. That along with the increased talent in the secondary and better overall LB group should compensate for a slightly thinner DL. He will make the necessary adjustments and has more than enough tools to get the job done.Lastly, even if the defense does end up dropping off dramatically, why assume they will react by passing more? I suspect they would be more proactive and run more to maintain possession/ protect the D.
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:confused: I was going to say basically the same thing.
 
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RC94 said:
Construction Man Jim said:
Maven said:
Eli's Passing Attempts:07 - 55706 - 52205 - 529Well with the Giants D losing 5 defensive players who were critical to their championship success last year, the Giants will be forced to catch up in games and Eli will be forced to throw more than ever in 2008. Do we bump Eli Manning and Plax up a few notches?A lot of people think Eli has finally "got it" and will make better decisions this year. Honestly, I think Eli will be his usual interception prone self... but he may reach 580-600 attempts and Plax may reach 15+ TDs. What do you guys think?
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It's a pretty flawed theory all around.First of all, you're exaggerating the Giants losses on defense. None of Torbor, Kawika or Gibril were irreplaceable and that's why they were allowed to leave. Certainly losing Osi to injury and Strahan to retirement hurts their depth, but Tuck and Kiwi are more than capable of matching their level of play. Secondly, you're underestimating Steve Spagnulo and his scheme. This is year two, they'll be able to implement and utilize more of his sytem. That along with the increased talent in the secondary and better overall LB group should compensate for a slightly thinner DL. He will make the necessary adjustments and has more than enough tools to get the job done.Lastly, even if the defense does end up dropping off dramatically, why assume they will react by passing more? I suspect they would be more proactive and run more to maintain possession/ protect the D.
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:confused: I was going to say basically the same thing.
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To add to that, the Saints offense has been dismal yet Drew Brees still throws the ball 500+ times every year. :confused
 
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