bocksheesh
Footballguy
Does anybody have any current, real-time insight?
What is the Houston RB situation?
What is the Houston RB situation?
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Steve Slaton, RB (HOU) (1 Viewer)
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footballnerd
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Houston Chronicle Reports:Chris Taylor and Steve Slaton are the backups. Both are going to improve. Slaton has exceeded expectations, according to the coaches. I predict at some point this season he'll be the starter. He weighs 203. Warrick Dunn played three years for Gibbs in Atlanta and rushed for more than 1,100 yards each season. Dunn weighs 187. Terrell Davis (205) and Clinton Portis (205) weighed about the same as Slaton when they were rookies. What the coaches like about Slaton, other than his speed and big-play ability, is the way he's improved as a blocker and isn't afraid to take on pass rushers. He doesn't absorb; he dishes.
Link
Slaton is available in two of my leagues on the WW. Prob wont make a big impact the first few weeks with that turf toe. Thinking about stashing him for later.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I thought Taylor looked god awful and slow int he preseason...Green can't hold up at this stage...any projections over 200-240 carries is just silly, so what I am saying is I like Slaton and as the season unrolls I like him more and more..at least to grab some balls OOTB.
EaglesNest
Footballguy
I just picked up Slaton in my league. I'm gonna hold on to him for awhile...I think it will pay off in the long run.
Green was hurt all of last year...all this preseason...he's on his last legs and I don't see him making it through a full season as the starter.
Green was hurt all of last year...all this preseason...he's on his last legs and I don't see him making it through a full season as the starter.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Coach said Green to get 12-15 carries and that Slaton's toe is fine, practiced all week.
EaglesNest
Footballguy
Thanks for the infoI'm not starting Slaton this week...but I'm gonna keep an eye on that game tomorrow.
Irish
Footballguy
Below avg backup rbs do not get any touches during the games unless an injury occurs. IMHO Slaton is not below avg and he will get some touches and at this stage of his career A. Green is a china doll. Add these up and Slaton has good value. Texans are not a really bad team either. They are undefeated.
GoBirds
Footballguy
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=4604Corky, here's the best update you will ever get:
Your not too bright.
Slaton's healthy, Green will be on IR in no more than a month, who else is there?
EaglesNest
Footballguy
I've heard just the opposite about him...but we won't really know much until he gets his shot. In the meantime I think it's a good pickup because it's likely just a matter of time before A. Green goes down and right now Slaton would be the guy to take his place. And the Texans aren't a really bad team. I think they have a decent shot at making the playoffs this year.
tomarken
Footballguy
Slaton will get his.
taz
Footballguy
FWIW, that story says Taylor also will get carries at fullback, coming in for Vonta Leach. Not sure if that means Slaton would be the primary RB and Taylor the GL back if Green gets hurt, but they each could have value. No way Green holds up.
EaglesNest
Footballguy
footballnerd
Footballguy
Ya, they both will hold value in the RBBC if Green gets hurt, but you gotta love Slaton's ability to break a long run.
Marc Levin
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Define: Irony.
Irish
Footballguy
GregR_2
Footballguy
Kubiak seems to have a penchant for calling FB passes at the goal line. If Taylor gets a decent amount of carries at HB as well, lining up as FB could help him out a bit.
thehornet
Footballguy
let's just say we should both bookmark this thread. Health is the least of Slaton's problems. My point is that he is destined to be a career backup.OH, and learn the English language before you start calling people stupid, Chump.
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Irish
Footballguy
Doesn't the English language start sentences with capital letters?
two_dollars
Footballguy
There is also no comma after the word average in that sentence.
WVU looked pretty good without him yesterday. The guy has just as good a shot as a number of these other rookies, sorry he stole your girlfriend little hornet, let it go.
thehornet
Footballguy
It's all good, man. I just don't see the guy as ever being a starter in the NFL. I've seen him play more than a few times. Let's check it out at the end of the year. Cheers.two_dollars said:WVU looked pretty good without him yesterday. The guy has just as good a shot as a number of these other rookies, sorry he stole your girlfriend little hornet, let it go.
GoBirds
Footballguy
I haven't followed him real close but he was a complete stud at WVU, everyting his coach has said this year has been positive.....how is he not worth a shot?It's all good, man. I just don't see the guy as ever being a starter in the NFL. I've seen him play more than a few times. Let's check it out at the end of the year. Cheers.two_dollars said:
thehornet
Footballguy
He is worth a shot, of course. He was amazing as a sophmore at WVU, but had a disappointing junior year despite a bunch of TD's. He was also hurt for a little bit, which hurt his draft value. The fact of the matter is that Slaton is undersized for the NFL and he hasn't shown the ability to be productive between the tackles. He also needs to learn to block which will be difficult if he doesn't put on a few pounds. He is always looking to get outside, and while he has a good initial burst, it will be tougher to get outside because defenses in the NFL are a lot faster from sideline to sideline. Apparently, he isn't always mentally prepared for games.I haven't followed him real close but he was a complete stud at WVU, everyting his coach has said this year has been positive.....how is he not worth a shot?It's all good, man. I just don't see the guy as ever being a starter in the NFL. I've seen him play more than a few times. Let's check it out at the end of the year. Cheers.two_dollars said:WVU looked pretty good without him yesterday. The guy has just as good a shot as a number of these other rookies, sorry he stole your girlfriend little hornet, let it go.
That being said, he is fast, he can catch and he has good vision. Also has a tendency to get dinged up frequently. All these things combined make him a perfect change of pace back in the NFL.
The Redbeard
Footballguy
I think that the "he's undersized argument" has to be my least favorite that gets made on these boards. There are plenty of guys with optimal size who never get the opportunity because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. And I am in no way trying to get in the middle of what has become a scintillating battle of 4th grade arguing, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in that thehornet is the only person I have heard who feels that Slaton didn't look very good this pre-season. Anyway, so nice to know that after a year off, I can come back to the boards and see half of the posts in a topic I want to read about are just a juvenile pissing contest.
Back to the football, regarding his size, this is just a little snippet from the second post in the topic that seems to bear some repeating:
"He weighs 203. Warrick Dunn played three years for Gibbs in Atlanta and rushed for more than 1,100 yards each season. Dunn weighs 187. Terrell Davis (205) and Clinton Portis (205) weighed about the same as Slaton when they were rookies. What the coaches like about Slaton, other than his speed and big-play ability, is the way he's improved as a blocker and isn't afraid to take on pass rushers. He doesn't absorb; he dishes."
Back to the football, regarding his size, this is just a little snippet from the second post in the topic that seems to bear some repeating:
"He weighs 203. Warrick Dunn played three years for Gibbs in Atlanta and rushed for more than 1,100 yards each season. Dunn weighs 187. Terrell Davis (205) and Clinton Portis (205) weighed about the same as Slaton when they were rookies. What the coaches like about Slaton, other than his speed and big-play ability, is the way he's improved as a blocker and isn't afraid to take on pass rushers. He doesn't absorb; he dishes."
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Bob Henry
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Bingo. Taylor/Leach has a decent chance to score in today's game. As fantasy footballers, we often discount the role of the FB because they aren't used enough to be factors for scoring purposes. That said, I think Leach is a guy who, if he stays healthy, should catch 25 balls this year and at least 2-3 TDs. In the Shanahan/Kubiak offense FBs and TEs often vulture touchdowns due to the wrinkles in their playbooks and tendencies to use bootlegs, misdirection plays, etc. As fas the original post and thread go.. I may be in the minority, but the minute Slaton's name popped up on the screen during the NFL Draft, I thought that he was going to just about the perfect situation for him and his talents. He's a good fit for the Texans running game, blocking scheme and what Kubiak wants from his RBs. His biggest concern, other than size (the obvious), was his pass protection and blitz pickup. From everything I've read and gathered, he has worked hard during OTAs and camp in that area and he's doing better than most anticipated. That doesn't mean it's his strong suit yet, but it means that such obstacles to playing time are diminishing.I don't trust Ahman what-so-ever anymore. Taylor is a decent player, but I don't think he gives the team enough speed/bounce, but he can block and run between the tackle enough to earn a split of any RBBC that evolves. In the end, I suspect that Slaton will have the most carries this year on the team, the most receptions and become a very nice RB3/flex player for those that drafted him.
BaBastage
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I'm pretty sure no one is thinking of benching LT for Slaton anytime soon.But given Slaton's preseason performance, the fact Houston management seems moderately high on him, and with Green's injury situation he's got a good shot at seeing significant playing time, I see Slaton being a low-risk, moderate reward player at RB4 or so.*Especially* in a deep league. Even in the most common, 12 team - Carry 4 RB leagues, I think I'd be hard pressed to list 48 RB's ahead of Slaton that don't carry a similar amount of risk.Personally, I'll keep him on my bench for a few weeks to see what happens. If he doesn't perform, then I'll hit the waivers for a replacement. (Redraft league.)
footballnerd
Footballguy
Bump for Ahman Greens injury. Slaton have a chance to start if Green can't go? Slaton got shut down by Pitt, but can bounce back?
MCguidance
Footballguy
Green was hurt?
Glatty
Footballguy
you sound surprised... i don't know the details, but i think it's just a minor, nagging injury.. the kind he always gets..
GoBirds
Footballguy
You sound surprised?
GoBirds
Footballguy
beat me to it....
footballnerd
Footballguy
Oh sorry, thought the word was out already. Ya, he's having test done on it this week which might not be a good sign.Link
MCguidance
Footballguy
Ha, no just didn't know about it. Thanks, though.
thehornet
Footballguy
Dude, who the hell are you? I never said he had a bad preseason. Try reading. Secondly, in case you just woke up on this side of earth, 200lb running backs are at a disadvantage. This is not a trendy little argument the 4th graders like to have. It is a fact, but thanks for listing a few small running backs that have made it. fwiw, you'll never see me calling Chris Johnson undersized, even though he is. Think about it or go take another year off.
EaglesNest
Footballguy
He's looking pretty good today so far...as the starter against a tough run D...already over 100 yards and a touchdown :(
wadegarrett
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Paging the Hornet and Marc Levin..........Crow for Two.
Lobary
Footballguy
I never bought the "third down back" cliche about Slaton because when I watched him run during the preseason, I saw a running back that reminded me a lot of Domanick Davis. People who dismissed him with this "third down back" nonsense paid too much attention to the blurbs from fantasy websites and not enough from actual game film. I knew it would only be a matter of weeks before Slaton became the unquestioned starter because it was apparent early on that he's the most talented back on the Texans roster. He may be slightly undersized, but he runs hard and keeps his legs moving, just like DD did. Unlike DD, Slaton has the speed to get to the corner and potentially bust a long TD run. As with all rookie running backs, blitz pick up was the primary concern, but Slaton didn't make any costly mistakes early to lose his coach's confidence.
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MCguidance
Footballguy
Ditto, 13th round.Gotta thanks the FBGs and some of the guys on these boards if he pans out. Good call, fellas.
Uncle Humuna
Footballguy
15th round here in a 14 team redraft league where you can start up to 4 RBs (1 RB and 3 Flex).Sweet.Ditto, 13th round.Gotta thanks the FBGs and some of the guys on these boards if he pans out. Good call, fellas.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Because Houston is a below average football team?
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Lobary
Footballguy
I think it's because Kyle Shanahan hasn't figured out how to draw up an effective screen play. Every time they swing a pass out to Slaton in the flat, the defense is waiting on him. If I can see that play coming from my couch, the odds of it working against an NFL defense are slim to none. The coaching staff has to figure out how to get him into open space where he can break off a long run.
coolnerd
Footballguy
Oversimplified, but probably true enough.Schaub has had a terrible start to the season. Most the attempts to Slaton have been last second dump downs. Only recall a couple of those passes where the attempt was actually to get him the ball in space or on a set-up screen. I am tempted to say the best pass play to him was called back on a penalty.
blake
Footballguy
please forgive the hijack, but what exactly happened to domanick davis?
