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Bobby Engram, Deion Branch Practicing (1 Viewer)

whodeywhodey

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September 29, 2008 3:40 PM

Video: Bobby Engram, Deion Branch practicing

Posted by Danny O'Neil

"I'm back," Bobby Engram said as he stretched before the Seahaks began Monday's practice. That was certainly an encouraging sign for the coaches, who've cobbled through the first three games with a depleted receivers corps. Engram returned to practice after suffering a broken bone in his shoulder during an exhibition game, and Deion Branch continues to escalate practice participation.

The expectation is both will be available for Sunday's game in New York. Here's a WMV file that gives a little visual proof they're back.
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http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/seah..._bobby_eng.htmlThis is absolutely huge.

Obviously this is big for Engram and Branch. But I think the real winner here is Hasselbeck.

 
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I'm not sure if I can believe that clip or not. I mean if a guy can make Brett Favre look like Medusa with MS Paint, I guess he could doctor this footage.

Just Kidding! Good news...

Especially considering have had Palmer, Hasselbeck as my QBs in one league and have been trying to get by with Cassell and Griese.

 
Almost 400 views and only 1 response. Guess no one is interested in discussing the return of one of the best passing offenses in one of the worst divisions in football.

 
whodeywhodey said:
Anyone see Engram bouncing back to top 20 WR status from this point forward?
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Yes, especially in PPR. Dude had 94 catches last year, (#13 WR in PPR last year), and there is little there for competition. Branch is always getting dinged, but having him back would help Engram. I picked him up last week off of waivers. Hasselbeck needs a soldi route runner with great hands and Engram will do well. Maybe not a lot of long stuff, but plenty of receptions. He'll probably be my flex guy for a couple weeks and maybe more, depending on when Colston is back.
 
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See bolded sections below. Sounds like Branch is ready, but not so certain about Engram.

PermalinkDeion Branch says he is ready to go

Posted by Frank Hughes @ 05:16:44 pm

While Mike Holmgren was more cautious about saying Deion Branch is ready to come back, Branch himself boldly stated that he is going to play against the Giants on Sunday.

He said he may not have been able to play two weeks ago, but he now knows he is mentally ready to go out on the field and give it his all. He is setting aside all talk about coming back too early (this will be only eight months) and says every person is different. He said Dr. Andrews told him his leg is healthy, now he just has to get his mind right -- and it is right.

He said he is going to get any anxiety about getting hit on the knee out of the way early by taking some shots on it in practice this week. He said he likely is not going to do that in front of reporters, but he will do that so he does not have concerns heading into the game.

As for Bobby Engram, we don't know what he is feeling because he declined to speak with the media today. He was practicing, running routes, and even fell on his shoulder on one play. But Holmgren said he does not yet know if Engram will be able to go. Practice will dictate that this week, depending on how it goes.
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From the Seattle PI blog. A bit more detail. Sounds like Engram and Branch were immediately back into the startering lineup, but no real word on who was playing at each specific position. I'll be very curious to see who they slide into the split end role. My guess is Branch at flanker and Engram in the slot. If I had to put money on it I would bet McMullen slides over to SE and the team just outright releases Koren Robinson due to his knee issues (Robinson's knee gets mentioned at the link above as well).

Leading receiver Bobby Engram and flanker Deion Branch also got a lot of work with the No. 1 offense. Their roles against the Giants will be determined by how they progress in practice this week, and how they feel at the end of the week.

Engram had been out since cracking a bone in his right shoulder in the preseason opener, while Branch last played in the playoff loss to the Packers in January – when he torn a ligament in this left knee.

Also, backup QB Seneca Wallace was running the scout team offense. He was expected to miss a month after pulling a calf muscle in the pre-game warm-ups before the Week 2 loss to the 49ers.

PLAYER OF THE DAY

Engram. This honor could be split between Branch and Engram, but Branch had been on the practice field the past few weeks while Engram was making his regular-season debut.

Engram caught some passes from QB Matt Hasselbeck, and ran even more routes – needed steps in getting Hasselbeck's security-blanket receiver back in the passing game.

Engram, who caught a franchise-record 94 passes last season, worked in a number of personnel groupings.

PLAYS OF THE DAY

Offense: Branch made a nice adjustment on a pass while it was in the air, turning his body to catch the ball and also shield the defender.
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In the Seattle offense..........it's the flanker you want. When Branch is healthy.....he's the flanker. :rolleyes:

(save the "link?" comments.......do your research of Engrams numbers when Branch is playing.........non PPR league).

 
Bump, because I didn't feel like posting all the recent news items in this thread into the other thread on page 1. Does that make me lazy? I can live with that.

 
Magnum said:
In the Seattle offense..........it's the flanker you want. When Branch is healthy.....he's the flanker. :thumbup:

(save the "link?" comments.......do your research of Engrams numbers when Branch is playing.........non PPR league).
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Branch is highly overrated. In his career he has never had a 1,000 yard season (he came close with 998). Other than that one season his bestseason in 804 yards. Part of that time he was playing with Tom Brady so it certainly wasn't a case of the QB not being good.

I would take Engram over Branch for this season, in both PPR and in non PPR.

ETA: In the 11 games that they both played in in 2007. Engram had 697 yards and 4 TD and Branch had 661 yards and 4 TD. The biggest difference is that

Branch has a tendency to disappear from some games. He had five games out of the 11 where he scored 4 points or less. Engram had only one game with

less then 3 points. I'll take the consistency over the possible big game every time.

 
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aburt19 said:
Magnum said:
In the Seattle offense..........it's the flanker you want. When Branch is healthy.....he's the flanker. :crazy:

(save the "link?" comments.......do your research of Engrams numbers when Branch is playing.........non PPR league).
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Branch is highly overrated. In his career he has never had a 1,000 yard season (he came close with 998). Other than that one season his bestseason in 804 yards. Part of that time he was playing with Tom Brady so it certainly wasn't a case of the QB not being good.

I would take Engram over Branch for this season, in both PPR and in non PPR.

ETA: In the 11 games that they both played in in 2007. Engram had 697 yards and 4 TD and Branch had 661 yards and 4 TD. The biggest difference is that

Branch has a tendency to disappear from some games. He had five games out of the 11 where he scored 4 points or less. Engram had only one game with

less then 3 points. I'll take the consistency over the possible big game every time.
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I find it amusing when someone uses the "highly overrated" argument to bash Branch and prop up Engram.Engram's played 12 seasons now. In those 12 seasons (158 games), he's averaged 5.9 fantasy ppg, and his average year-end finish has been WR59.

If you look just at the 7 years he's spent in SEA, you've got 96 games, 5.7 fantasy ppg, and an average finish of WR57.

Now Branch:

Career: 53 G, 6.8 fantasy ppg, avg of WR47

In SEA: 25 G, 7.6 fantasy ppg, avg of WR44

What's highly overrated is Engram's likelihood of repeating his career-high production of 9.4 ppg from 2007 -- nearly 2 standard deviations above his career average.

 
davearm said:
aburt19 said:
Magnum said:
In the Seattle offense..........it's the flanker you want. When Branch is healthy.....he's the flanker. :rolleyes:

(save the "link?" comments.......do your research of Engrams numbers when Branch is playing.........non PPR league).
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Branch is highly overrated. In his career he has never had a 1,000 yard season (he came close with 998). Other than that one season his bestseason in 804 yards. Part of that time he was playing with Tom Brady so it certainly wasn't a case of the QB not being good.

I would take Engram over Branch for this season, in both PPR and in non PPR.

ETA: In the 11 games that they both played in in 2007. Engram had 697 yards and 4 TD and Branch had 661 yards and 4 TD. The biggest difference is that

Branch has a tendency to disappear from some games. He had five games out of the 11 where he scored 4 points or less. Engram had only one game with

less then 3 points. I'll take the consistency over the possible big game every time.
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I find it amusing when someone uses the "highly overrated" argument to bash Branch and prop up Engram.Engram's played 12 seasons now. In those 12 seasons (158 games), he's averaged 5.9 fantasy ppg, and his average year-end finish has been WR59.

If you look just at the 7 years he's spent in SEA, you've got 96 games, 5.7 fantasy ppg, and an average finish of WR57.

Now Branch:

Career: 53 G, 6.8 fantasy ppg, avg of WR47

In SEA: 25 G, 7.6 fantasy ppg, avg of WR44

What's highly overrated is Engram's likelihood of repeating his career-high production of 9.4 ppg from 2007 -- nearly 2 standard deviations above his career average.
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:lmao: Too many people run their yappers all the while...........having no clue what they are talking about.

 
davearm said:
aburt19 said:
Magnum said:
In the Seattle offense..........it's the flanker you want. When Branch is healthy.....he's the flanker. :lmao:

(save the "link?" comments.......do your research of Engrams numbers when Branch is playing.........non PPR league).
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Branch is highly overrated. In his career he has never had a 1,000 yard season (he came close with 998). Other than that one season his bestseason in 804 yards. Part of that time he was playing with Tom Brady so it certainly wasn't a case of the QB not being good.

I would take Engram over Branch for this season, in both PPR and in non PPR.

ETA: In the 11 games that they both played in in 2007. Engram had 697 yards and 4 TD and Branch had 661 yards and 4 TD. The biggest difference is that

Branch has a tendency to disappear from some games. He had five games out of the 11 where he scored 4 points or less. Engram had only one game with

less then 3 points. I'll take the consistency over the possible big game every time.
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I find it amusing when someone uses the "highly overrated" argument to bash Branch and prop up Engram.Engram's played 12 seasons now. In those 12 seasons (158 games), he's averaged 5.9 fantasy ppg, and his average year-end finish has been WR59.

If you look just at the 7 years he's spent in SEA, you've got 96 games, 5.7 fantasy ppg, and an average finish of WR57.

Now Branch:

Career: 53 G, 6.8 fantasy ppg, avg of WR47

In SEA: 25 G, 7.6 fantasy ppg, avg of WR44

What's highly overrated is Engram's likelihood of repeating his career-high production of 9.4 ppg from 2007 -- nearly 2 standard deviations above his career average.
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in engram's case, his career averages need to be looked at with a grain of salt... 2007 was the first year engram was wr1/wr2 on his team... in most years, engram's been the wr3, seeing limited time on the field... branch, on the other hand, has always been the wr1 on his team... engram has a good chance to repeat his game to game production from last year given the situation seattle's in this seasoni'll take a shoulder injury and consistent production over a reconstructed knee every time

 
I have a rule of thumb. And I am especially following it here! Give them a week before throwing them into line-ups. Your probably be happy you did! Might cost you a few efficiency % points here or there but he wont be in my line-ups this week!

 
Enforcer said:
Mookie Blaylock said:
What I want to know is are any of them startable against the Giants. Might give it a week just to be safe.
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Seahawks are traditionally terrible flying to the east coast. Combined that with a very good Giants defense and I look elsewhere for a fantasy starter.
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The Giants do have a good defense, but Antwan Randel El and Torry Holt had decent games against them and Housh tore them up. More than likely Seattle will be trailing in this game and forced to throw. I'd expect Hass to lean on Engram as he has in the past. What do Holt, Randel and and Housh have in common other than the fact they all had decent games against the Giants? They are all possesion type receivers for their teams. The same can be said for Engram.
 
What about Seattle as a team now? Having these 2 back has to help a lot? Anyone think they'll cover the 7 point spread this week against the G Men?

 
fatboyj711 said:
davearm said:
aburt19 said:
Magnum said:
In the Seattle offense..........it's the flanker you want. When Branch is healthy.....he's the flanker. :mellow:

(save the "link?" comments.......do your research of Engrams numbers when Branch is playing.........non PPR league).
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Branch is highly overrated. In his career he has never had a 1,000 yard season (he came close with 998). Other than that one season his bestseason in 804 yards. Part of that time he was playing with Tom Brady so it certainly wasn't a case of the QB not being good.

I would take Engram over Branch for this season, in both PPR and in non PPR.

ETA: In the 11 games that they both played in in 2007. Engram had 697 yards and 4 TD and Branch had 661 yards and 4 TD. The biggest difference is that

Branch has a tendency to disappear from some games. He had five games out of the 11 where he scored 4 points or less. Engram had only one game with

less then 3 points. I'll take the consistency over the possible big game every time.
Click to expand...
I find it amusing when someone uses the "highly overrated" argument to bash Branch and prop up Engram.Engram's played 12 seasons now. In those 12 seasons (158 games), he's averaged 5.9 fantasy ppg, and his average year-end finish has been WR59.

If you look just at the 7 years he's spent in SEA, you've got 96 games, 5.7 fantasy ppg, and an average finish of WR57.

Now Branch:

Career: 53 G, 6.8 fantasy ppg, avg of WR47

In SEA: 25 G, 7.6 fantasy ppg, avg of WR44

What's highly overrated is Engram's likelihood of repeating his career-high production of 9.4 ppg from 2007 -- nearly 2 standard deviations above his career average.
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in engram's case, his career averages need to be looked at with a grain of salt... 2007 was the first year engram was wr1/wr2 on his team... in most years, engram's been the wr3, seeing limited time on the field... branch, on the other hand, has always been the wr1 on his team... engram has a good chance to repeat his game to game production from last year given the situation seattle's in this seasoni'll take a shoulder injury and consistent production over a reconstructed knee every time
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:confused:
 
aburt19 said:
ETA: In the 11 games that they both played in in 2007. Engram had 697 yards and 4 TD and Branch had 661 yards and 4 TD. The biggest difference is thatBranch has a tendency to disappear from some games. He had five games out of the 11 where he scored 4 points or less. Engram had only one game withless then 3 points. I'll take the consistency over the possible big game every time.
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Adding to the numbers above:In the 11 games they both played last year, Branch caught 49 of 85 targets. Engram caught 57 of 78 targets. There's a significant difference if you look at pre- and post-injury for Branch.In the first five games of the season, Branch caught 22 of 36 while Engram caught 19 of 28. In the six games after Branch returned from injury, he caught 27 of 49 while Engram caught 38 of 50.So I guess the question is, does the relationship Hasselbeck and Engram built while Branch was out carry over to this season? I'm not sure if we can answer that until we see a couple of games.
 
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