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Colston might play this week! (1 Viewer)
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blackjack23
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Finally, some good news on the injury front. Receiver Marques Colston and tight end Jeremy Shockey were both back in practice on a limited basis. They should still be considered questionable for Sunday's game against Oakland, but Coach Sean Payton said he was more optimistic than earlier in the week.
"I was pleased with what I saw today, and I saw more than I expected to see," Payton said. "Both of them actually took reps and moved around pretty good. You know, we'll see tomorrow how they feel, especially when it comes to Jeremy. But Marques looked good."
Both players did look pretty fluid during the individual drills that were open to the media. Colston was catching balls with only a small amount of padding on his surgically-repaired thumb. If he feels comfortable catching the ball, he should definitely be able to go, unless trainers are worried about a setback.
Shockey had sports hernia surgery two weeks ago, so the Saints will have to gauge how fast he recovers from the increased workload in practice.
The Saints had several players on their injury list -- some of them because they were giving guys a chance to rest after a Monday night game. Cornerback Mike McKenzie was one of those guys. He was out to rest his knee after a heavy workload. Also missing practice were right tackle Jon Stinchcomb (back), cornerback Aaron Glenn (ankle), defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis (knee), defensive tackle Antwan Lake (groin), safety Kevin Kaesviharn (back) and receiver David Patten (groin). Center Jonathan Goodwin was limited with his hamstring injury.
"I was pleased with what I saw today, and I saw more than I expected to see," Payton said. "Both of them actually took reps and moved around pretty good. You know, we'll see tomorrow how they feel, especially when it comes to Jeremy. But Marques looked good."
Both players did look pretty fluid during the individual drills that were open to the media. Colston was catching balls with only a small amount of padding on his surgically-repaired thumb. If he feels comfortable catching the ball, he should definitely be able to go, unless trainers are worried about a setback.
Shockey had sports hernia surgery two weeks ago, so the Saints will have to gauge how fast he recovers from the increased workload in practice.
The Saints had several players on their injury list -- some of them because they were giving guys a chance to rest after a Monday night game. Cornerback Mike McKenzie was one of those guys. He was out to rest his knee after a heavy workload. Also missing practice were right tackle Jon Stinchcomb (back), cornerback Aaron Glenn (ankle), defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis (knee), defensive tackle Antwan Lake (groin), safety Kevin Kaesviharn (back) and receiver David Patten (groin). Center Jonathan Goodwin was limited with his hamstring injury.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
All I can say is "WOW", if this is true. I was really not expecting Colston back until week 10, after the Saints week 9 bye. Even if he doesn't make it this week, he certainly sounds like a go for week 7 based on this.
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SeniorVBDStudent
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SeniorVBDStudent
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identikit
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Usually I wait a week for someone coming back off injury, but I would consider starting him off the bat if they deem him good to go. (over Engram FWIW.)
MCguidance
Footballguy
Like you said, if this is true, AB, where do you see him ranked this week?
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Payton was on Sirius this morning before practice, I went into more detail in the Colsten injured thread, but this morning he was saying Colsten and Shockey would def be ready for the San Diego game, he would not rest them past the bye, and that Colsten especially had a "realistic goal" of playing next week in Carolina...
But boy, he didn't mention Colsten practicing today!!
with the practice news + the coaches interview this morning, it looks like Colsten is now possibly playing this week, but would def play in week 7.
But boy, he didn't mention Colsten practicing today!!
with the practice news + the coaches interview this morning, it looks like Colsten is now possibly playing this week, but would def play in week 7.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
This is great, and all, but what I really want to know is how soon until he can play hockey again? 
All kidding aside, if Colston can swing playing this week vs. Oakland that's certainly great news. As a Colston owner, I'm tempering my expectations his first week back though.
Oakland homers, outside of Royal in game one, how have your Raiders been looking vs. the pass? Seems to me that teams aren't exactly mauling them, fantasy point wise, at the WR spot. They ain't shutting WRs down totally either, but it looks like teams are running on them with enough success that they aren't being forced to throw. Fair assesment?
All kidding aside, if Colston can swing playing this week vs. Oakland that's certainly great news. As a Colston owner, I'm tempering my expectations his first week back though.
Oakland homers, outside of Royal in game one, how have your Raiders been looking vs. the pass? Seems to me that teams aren't exactly mauling them, fantasy point wise, at the WR spot. They ain't shutting WRs down totally either, but it looks like teams are running on them with enough success that they aren't being forced to throw. Fair assesment?
sjacksonfan
Footballguy
As long as he's going to get his normal reps I see no reason why a Colston owner wouldn't start him.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I think you have to temper the enthusiasm for this week because he probably isn't in the greatest condition to play a lot of snaps. But if you have been hammered by WR injuries like I have in some leagues (example, Colston, Curtis, Galloway in a league), then you jump for joy at any positive news. I really don't expect much, but in certain situations, he may be a viable start even if he has limited snaps because of his red zone prowess. Just know that there is plenty of risk.
MCguidance
Footballguy
This was along the lines of my thinking, as well. I am fairly set at WR but it's tempting to start him over 85 at WR3...but I know that will be the week he goes for 10-180-2 if I make such a move.If Colston does return and plays the majority of the snaps I can see 5-65-.5.
sjacksonfan
Footballguy
If his snaps are limited that's one thing but he should be in fine shape, not like he hurt a hammy and hasn't been running or riding the bike.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Straight from the horses mouth that Colston's goal is to play next week in Carolina... they play Oakland this week. That quote from the coach does not say anything about this week...And we don't even know where the OP got his information from... could have been a beat writerKingEl said:
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MCguidance
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I see what you're saying, but reading it again check out my underlined part. Was the OP's link after this link meaning that Payton originally said Carolina and then saw Colston practice and thought, "Wow, maybe he can go this week"?Trying to find a report that is a bit more clear.Straight from the horses mouth that Colston's goal is to play next week in Carolina... they play Oakland this week. That quote from the coach does not say anything about this week...And we don't even know where the OP got his information from... could have been a beat writerKingEl said:
Lobary
Footballguy
On what basis were you expecting him to be back after the bye? I'm ecstatic to read this news, but honestly it's not that much of a surprise to me. I've gone round and round on this topic with many posters here, provided quotes from Colston himself that made it clear that he wasn't expecting it to keep him out too long, and examples of other players with the same injury and the same timetable, but the conventional wisdom seemed to be dominated by extreme pessimists based on nothing but empty speculation. The doc said four-to-six. It's been four weeks and a day since he had the surgery, and Sunday will be almost five weeks. Colston might play Sunday? Wow, what a shocker!Anthony Borbely said:
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Lobary
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From the Picayune's practice report today.Straight from the horses mouth that Colston's goal is to play next week in Carolina... they play Oakland this week. That quote from the coach does not say anything about this week...And we don't even know where the OP got his information from... could have been a beat writerKingEl said:
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MCguidance
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So this was after he talked on Sirius then, meaning he may have seen Colston in practice and realized he might be able to go this week vs. Oak? Interesting. We'll hear more in the next few days to confirm one way or another.From the Picayune's practice report today.Straight from the horses mouth that Colston's goal is to play next week in Carolina... they play Oakland this week. That quote from the coach does not say anything about this week...And we don't even know where the OP got his information from... could have been a beat writerKingEl said:LINK
Lobary
Footballguy
Yep. I was happy to see Minnesota pull out that win Monday night because I knew it would give Colston that extra sumpin sumpin to get back on the field.Funny how quickly Colston is recovering now that the Saints are 2-3 and the bottom of their division.
Regarding my posts about what Payton said on Sirius this morning--- it was before practice. He was on a live phone with Sirius Drive around 7:30am Eastern while I was taking the kids to school. They asked him about Shockey and he said that Shockey and Marques were doing great and that he thought Shockey and "especially" Colsten would be able to play at full strength against San Diego- Week8. Then the hosts asked him "have you given any thought to resting them until after the bye?" Payton said "no, they should be ready for San Diego and he wouldn't rest them, and actually Colsten had a "realistic" shot or goal at playing against Carolina in Week 7. He then went through some more players and then came back to Colsten and said several times he has "a realistic shot at playing against Carolina"
So clearly this was before practice today, and he didn't give any hint they would be practicing... After these new practice reports, my hope is that the definite Week 8, realistic shot at Week7-- has been moved up to definite Week7, realistic shot at this week... This is all good news though!
So clearly this was before practice today, and he didn't give any hint they would be practicing... After these new practice reports, my hope is that the definite Week 8, realistic shot at Week7-- has been moved up to definite Week7, realistic shot at this week... This is all good news though!
None_More_Black
Footballguy
I think Peyton would never be 100% honest about when key offensive players may be back. It's called gamesmanship. Why let Oakland prepare for Colston's and Shockey's return. I think Colston plays this week.
tombonneau
Footballguy
I don't think a guy returning to practice and his coach saying he might be able to play this week exactly qualifies as "grasping." Nothing to really reach out for and grasp with that. It's pretty much right in front of you.
None_More_Black
Footballguy
######, If he is practicing he has a very good chance of playing. He has had 5 weeks for his injury to heal. Common sense might tell us that he is ready to play. Have you ever played a sport?
southeastjerome
Footballguy
The human body can heal.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
He had a hand injury and they have to heal before he can even practice. Not only does it have to heal, he has to get the strength and flexibility back. I thought it was said that he would not practice until after week 7...I may be wrong, but that's what I recall, meaning he could play in week 8. If that was his first week of practice like I thought it would be, he would be limited that week. The bye is week 9, so basically week 10 is when I expected him to play and be a viable fantasy starter. I was definitely not expecting him to be able to practice this soon.
bigupsetter
Footballguy
It certainly sounds optimistic after his first practice. As an owner, I'll be monitoring practice reports Thursday and Friday, see if they move him up from questionable to probable. Most guys I would wait a week, but Colston is too much of a home run hitter to bench if he plays, IMO
Just happy he won't be sitting until after the bye- very nice
Just happy he won't be sitting until after the bye- very nice
Lobary
Footballguy
Exactly. It never was that big of a deal, but because the injury happened to a top-five receiver with a high ADP, the majority opinion was something like"OMG DO YOU REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT THUMBS ARE TO A RECEIVER NO WAY HE'LL BE BACK BEFORE THE BYE."People attacked me for saying this in the first Colston thread, but I had this injury and this surgery - not a big deal.
So what I'm saying is - I told you so, Nanny-nanny-boo-boo, or some such thing.
When the team doctors said four-to-six, they didn't mean six-to-eight. The healing process began the moment the surgery was over, not the day his cast was removed.
One more time, from the mouth of Marques Colston the day after surgery: “The positive that I take away from it is that I will not miss too much time and once I get the cast off, it won’t take long to get right back out there and in the mix.”
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glumpy
breeze
I just traded Santana Moss for Colston--didn't realize he might be back so soon, but wanted to pair him up with Brees.
Lobary
Footballguy
Shockey missed today's practice, but Colston practiced again on a limited basis. My money says he plays this Sunday.
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Injury report
The question with Shockey was how he would react physically to the 1st practice, so missing practice today probaly indicates he felt badly.. That probably means he misses this week, but gets ready for Carolina which was the coaches stated goal.. I think Colsten has a real good chance of playing this week, I just wonder how much... I want to start him!!
MCguidance
Footballguy
I think you're dead on with Shockey. My brother is recovering from a sports hernia (about 2 weeks ago) but his was pretty bad. THe doctor told him that he should start to move around but expect to very sore when he increases his activity - now multiply that for Shockey, albeit the different time frame. Also, did you know sports hernias don't completely heal? Only to about 94-97%, which is interesting to note.As for Colston, keeping my fingers crossed.
Lobary
Footballguy
My opponent has Brees, so I may start Colston over Engram. I took the wait-and-see approach last week and benched Engram for Vincent Jackson and it almost cost me a victory. I'd be playing Colston at WR3 behind Marshall and Housh, so I think I can afford the risk. Perhaps I'm being overly optimistic, but it sounds to me like Colston's eager to get back to catching touchdowns again.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I think this is the right call. I'm as desperate as anyone to see Colston back in action, but I think Colston's performance will be limited. I don't care how much he's been conditioning himself, you can't just come back from sitting out of games for 4 or 5 weeks without having to knock some rust off -- assuming that you aren't also working through any lingering remnants of the injury itself.Not saying the Saints will just use him out there as a decoy (although that's possible) -- just that if you are starting him, you would be wise to temper you enthusiasm.Anthony Borbely said:
Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
I traded Braylon Edwards to get Colsten. I think I did ok.
Lobary
Footballguy
If he had an injury to his legs or back I would agree but with a hand injury there will be no rust to knock off unless he forgot how to use those great hands he has.
jamil
Footballguy
looks like you're getting the hang of the shark pool.
