Shark Pool Mock Draft 1.0 - Review & Commentary Thread... (1 Viewer)

I figured that the people who logged on to the Andy D's first Mock Draft thread once it got started, were people who were the actual drafters on not the rest of the FBG board.

Great job by Andy D to keep the train rolling. All in all, the three round Mock took 10 days. Here is the entire draft broken down by selection and also team. For those who drafted, feel free to comment and summarize your thoughts on all of the selections. And if you didn't draft, speak up about how you feel your team made out.

By selection:

By team:

In picking for the Falcons, I went into the draft thinking OLB was going to be a priority. While there are certainly other holes for the Falcons, DT being one potentially, Laurinaitis was the best player on the board and I think he'll be able to make the conversion to 43 WLB with relative ease. I think his career trajectory will be similar to the man he winds up replacing in Keith Brooking - 10 year solid pro.

Rashad Johnson is a guy I'm high on. While SS is the position of more concern this off-season for the Falcons since Lawyer Milloy is a FA, I think they drafted his replacement last year in Thomas DeCoud. Even though he was the primary FS back-up last season, I think that was due in part to the fact that Milloy was considered the better player between himself and FS Erik Coleman. Backing up Coleman offered DeCoud a chance for more PT. As is stood, it wound up being a learning year for DeCoud, but he's got the physical ability and traits to make the transition. Based on his abilities shown in college and physical make-up, this might be the better position for him anyway. So Johnson goes to Atlanta probably to ride the pine for one season. But in 2010, I think he'll compete with Coleman for the starters job and if Nick Saban says you're one of the smartest players he's ever coached, that counts for something. His performance on the field his junior & senior seasons was exemplary. The concern about Johnson is his physical make-up, but he showed up at the Senior Bowl at 5'11 195. I think he should be able to hold up.

The Falcons O-Line showed drastic improvement in 2008. They've got some solid building blocks along that line in guys like Justin Blalock, Sam Baker and Harvey Dahl. To me though, depth is a concern. Alex Stepanovich and Ben Wilkerson constituted their interior line depth in 2008. Todd McClure is getting older and while still effective, the Falcons should look towards developing a long term plan for his replacement. Luigs was a Rimington Winner once and finalist three times (including the year he won) and has an incredible amount of SEC experience. Not to mention, he blocked for one of CFB's best RB tandems in recent memory.

Overall, I didn't feel compelled to draft for need, with the possible exception of Laurinaitis and even then, the value was good. Johnson and Luigs are real good developmental prospects who fit Dimitroff's criteria of smart football players with good football instincts and intangibles.

While picking for the Rams I was wanting to get more physical on both sides of the ball. I think I definelty accomplished that with my first pick with who I think is the most physical olineman in the draft. I think Andre Smith is a beast and will lead the new culture of the new look "SPAG's" Rams.

My 2nd pick was William Moore who I think will fill a need for the Rams that they have lacke for quite some time. I think Moore is the most physical player in the secondary in the draft this year. The Rams need that very badly. Moore is also a hometown kid that will be a fan favorite right off the bat.

I was estatic to see him there for me with my second pick.

My third pick was the other "huge" need the Rams needed in my opinion. They needed an inside linebacker to allow Will Witherspoon to go back outside where he belongs. Darry Beckwith was this selection and again I was estatic he was there for me.

The best thing I feel I ac complished with this draft for the Rams was without drafting for needs I got my first three picks and 3 of the biggest need spots for the team. In a perfect world I woul have the Rams taking a quarterback in round four.

It was fun.

With Chicago, I wanted to fill needs at WR-OL-QB-DE. I was only able to make the first two picks since work lowered the boom on me this week with training and meetings, but I was happy with the choice AD made in the 3rd. As for the actual picks analysis, here we go:

1. Mark Sanchez- All the elite OL are off the board as well as Crabtree/Macklin, so I swung for the fences and grabbed Sanchez. I liked what I saw from him this year and I think he'll have a year to get used to the system and play behind Orton for year 1. This pick was a no-brainer IMO given who was taken ahead of me. Also, with Favre's retirement, I think the Jets would look long and hard at him should he be there at their pick.

2. William Beatty- I looked at Beatty and Britton with my 1st pick, so imagine my surprise when Beatty was there in the second. Beatty, along Chris Williams, should be nice bookends to the OL in the next few seasons.

3. Asher Allen- I've seen his value all over the place, so I can't comment on if he was a good pick at this position or not. We'll know more after the combine.

Anyway, I'd be pleased if this was how the Bear's draft went. They could grab a WR on the FA market or via trade (apparently Ocho, Boldin and Burress are available ). DE will still be a problem, but I didn't see anyone worthy of taking at their positions in the first 3 rounds.

Vikings

1. Percy Harvin - Definietly not a need pick after overpaying for Berrian, but I'm not crazy about either Wade (limited ability) or Rice (development slowed by injury). The Vikings also got almost nothing out of their return game last year, which would quickly be remedied by Harvin. Giving the offense another weapon to take the heat off AP is a good thing. Also considered a corner here.

2. Sen'Derrick Marks - Potentially a first round talent, Marks gives the Vikes some depth along the d-line - something they sorely need. He could sub for Fat Pat on passing downs and potentially play some end as well.

3. Nate Davis - I expect that the Vikes will go find themselves another veteran one-year stopgap. In which case, taking Davis to develop over the course of that year is a no-brainer. Appears to me to have more upside than Josh Freeman and certainly more than Tarvaris Jackson. To get an NFL quality QB in the 3rd would be a best case scenario for the Vikes.

Bengals

1. Michael Oher - The Bengals need a tackle that can start on day 1. He's got all the OT qualities that you can't teach... big, strong, agile, and mean. Needs to work on his technique and being more consistent. I would have looked to trade down here if trades were allowed.

2. Max Unger - Their starting center is a FA and he's not any good. Everyone else in the division has huge NT so the Bengals need to get bigger and stronger in the middle. Unger can play anywhere on the line. He's big and has the frame to get bigger. He's also intelligent enough to make all the calls.

3. Coye Francies - Thought about RB and LB here, but didn't like the value. Figured they would drop to the end of the round where the Bengals have 2 of the next 10 or so picks. More than likely Francies will be selected some time in the 2nd round, but he fell in this mock so I grabbed him. The Bengals have a hole at the 3rd corner spot with was made apparent with Joseph's injury last year. Francies can also help them in the return game.

1 30 Tennessee Peria Jerry DT Ole Miss.

2 62 Tennessee Eric Wood C Louisville

3 94 Tennessee Tyronne Green OG Auburn

Picking where the Titans did I like these picks.

Raiders:

I was trying to emulate what my team would do, not what I necessarily would do.

1st round: Crabtree represents both. What I'd do, and what the team would do (IMO). Although I have to admit that a BJ Raji or Everette Brown is tempting. If Crabtree is gone, I think D-Line might be the spot, rather than OT. Davis was behind the Mario Henderson pick, and he played well at LT when finally given the chance. So even if a Jason Smith makes sense there, I don't see it happening. I think Maclin would be more likely.

2nd round: Michael Johnson: Love the athletic ability, a bit concerned he wasn't ever really dominant. But his workout numbers will be sick, I would not be surprised if he moves back up draft boards. Was hoping for Alex Mack here. If I was in charge, probably would have taken Beatty, the OT from UCONN, but Johnson has Al Davis written all over him.

3rd round: Troy Kropog: Maybe this is where Al Davis throws Cable a bone, giving him a young agile OT to play with. I wouldn't be shocked to see a CB here, either. Coye Francis went a pick before me, he carries the stench of an Al Davis pick as well.

If I was in charge of the team, with hindsight, I'd probably take Raji and Beatty, then go with a D-linemen or WR in round 3. But given circumstances, I think this is how I'd expect the Raiders to react.

massraider said:

Raiders:

I was trying to emulate what my team would do, not what I necessarily would do.

1st round: Crabtree represents both. What I'd do, and what the team would do (IMO). Although I have to admit that a BJ Raji or Everette Brown is tempting. If Crabtree is gone, I think D-Line might be the spot, rather than OT. Davis was behind the Mario Henderson pick, and he played well at LT when finally given the chance. So even if a Jason Smith makes sense there, I don't see it happening. I think Maclin would be more likely.

2nd round: Michael Johnson: Love the athletic ability, a bit concerned he wasn't ever really dominant. But his workout numbers will be sick, I would not be surprised if he moves back up draft boards. Was hoping for Alex Mack here. If I was in charge, probably would have taken Beatty, the OT from UCONN, but Johnson has Al Davis written all over him.

3rd round: Troy Kropog: Maybe this is where Al Davis throws Cable a bone, giving him a young agile OT to play with. I wouldn't be shocked to see a CB here, either. Coye Francis went a pick before me, he carries the stench of an Al Davis pick as well.

If I was in charge of the team, with hindsight, I'd probably take Raji and Beatty, then go with a D-linemen or WR in round 3. But given circumstances, I think this is how I'd expect the Raiders to react.

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Good job massraider, the three picks all are in areas of need and would only help the Raiders get better. I also agree a CB could be looked at in the first three rounds to go opposite Asomugha.

For the Jaguars:

1. Jason Smith: While I do think that Smith's value justifies a selection at #8, this was a pure need pick. The Jaguars don't have a left tackle on roster right now and someone has to block Freeney, Mario Williams and Vanden Bosch twice a season among others.

2. Robert Ayers: BAP and could develop into an every down LDE opposite Harvey longterm. Add in Groves as a situational pass rushers and the Jags have a talented core of young DEs.

3. Jairus Byrd: BAP and fills a need at CB. His skills should translate well into the cover 2 scheme in Jacksonville.

I would have liked a DT in the first rounds but never thought the players available yielded proper value. The Jaguars would still have several more holes to fill and only 3 more draft picks. In the real thing, I expect the Jags to try and trade down often to get enough picks to address multiple needs. If we had gone another round Chip Vaughn would have been on the top of my list. Brandon Tate and Chris Baker are guys I would have targeted in later rounds.

1.05 Cleveland -- Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB - Texas

2.04 Cleveland -- DJ Moore, CB - Vanderbilt

With only 2 picks to worry about my draft was pretty easy. My main goal in this draft was to address the defense. With the third worse pass rush last year, we have to make a big change this offseason. IMO a good pass rush is two-fold. You have to get after the QB and your DB's have to be able cover.

Curry coming off the board at 1.03 damn near broke my heart. I see this more and more with mocks lately so I am not holding my breath that we land him in NFL Draft. IMO Orakpo is the best DE in the draft and I really think his ceiling is pretty high. The transition of DE to DE/OLB will take some time, but it's certainly worth it. Now, if somehow we are able to land a premier OLB in FA (ie. Suggs) then this pick gets interesting.

I could see them doing a couple things. With Crabtree sitting on the board we should be fielding calls at this point. We have no 3rd of 5th round picks so I am not opposed to moving down 6-10 spots and still getting one of the top pass rushers in the draft. If we somehow land Suggs then we could look at trading back and taking Maualuga to shore up our ILB spots. We could go ahead and take Crabtree to play opposite Braylon (hopefully he rebounds). Or we could just trade the pick period to AZ for Boldin. Bottom line there are alot of options.

So with no trades allowed and making no FA assumptions.....Orakpo was an easy choice at 1.05. Fills an immediate need.

At 2.04 I was really surprised to see Moore still on the board. He was #20 on my big board and have seen him go in the top 25 in most mocks. I am not at all comfortable with Mcdonald as a starting caliber DB. I think he'll make a fine Nickel back. No way Moore will be here in the NFL draft, but I'm not passing on this value. Shonn Greene as an eventual replacement to Lewis was also a thought here. Big downhill type runner would fit perfect in our system. In the end though, our poor defense wins out and Moore is the pick. So with Orakpo and Moore I've addressed my two-fold pass rush.

Needless to say, I am ready for version 2, post combine with trades. I think it'll get really exciting once FA starts and the muddy water starts to clear.

After all's said and done I don't like my draft for the Pats. I'm not sure Sintim is a special talent like a guy like Larry English could be and I should have gone a different route. I like Casey in the 2nd and Chung was good value. In the 3rd I had no idea anymore so I went with depth and a guy I know they've had interest in with Magee from Purdue. They've got a ton of FA's coming up in 2010 so they may be drafting for depth if they have to let some guys walk.

I thought about a WR in the 3rd with Robiskie and Murphy sitting there but I think BB has maybe just given up on taking WR's early. He'll just go after proven NFL talent in FA at that position.

I considered a RB in the 3rd but thought there was still enough talent to wait until the 4th. It was a little too early for the 230 pound Jennings kid from Liberty but I know the Pats have already shown interest in him. He could end up being the Forte of the 2009 draft but DE seemed maybe a more important pick in the 3rd. BB likes to spend early picks on his DL especially and it's paid off for him.

So, to some up...

1st pick (Sintim) = suck

2a pick (Casey) = exciting but maybe not realistic

2b pick (Chung) = need meets value

3rd pick (Magee) = depth

meh...

scrumptrulescent said:

After all's said and done I don't like my draft for the Pats. I'm not sure Sintim is a special talent like a guy like Larry English could be and I should have gone a different route. I like Casey in the 2nd and Chung was good value. In the 3rd I had no idea anymore so I went with depth and a guy I know they've had interest in with Magee from Purdue. They've got a ton of FA's coming up in 2010 so they may be drafting for depth if they have to let some guys walk.I thought about a WR in the 3rd with Robiskie and Murphy sitting there but I think BB has maybe just given up on taking WR's early. He'll just go after proven NFL talent in FA at that position. I considered a RB in the 3rd but thought there was still enough talent to wait until the 4th. It was a little too early for the 230 pound Jennings kid from Liberty but I know the Pats have already shown interest in him. He could end up being the Forte of the 2009 draft but DE seemed maybe a more important pick in the 3rd. BB likes to spend early picks on his DL especially and it's paid off for him.So, to some up...1st pick (Sintim) = suck2a pick (Casey) = exciting but maybe not realistic2b pick (Chung) = need meets value3rd pick (Magee) = depthmeh...

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Don't be so hard on yourself. I don't know about Sintim but the position is one of need. Watson and Thomas have both disappointed and Belichick is not afraid to use a early pick on that position. SS with upside to put behind Sanders is important as well. They need D Line as well. Bloom had the pats taking a D Lineman in the 2nd and again I like that thought. The depth isn't there at that position and Seymour needs to renegotiate his contract to make it palatable. He just doens't put enough pressure on the QB anymore to make him a value at 9 million a year.

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For the Jaguars:1. Jason Smith: While I do think that Smith's value justifies a selection at #8, this was a pure need pick. The Jaguars don't have a left tackle on roster right now and someone has to block Freeney, Mario Williams and Vanden Bosch twice a season among others. 2. Robert Ayers: BAP and could develop into an every down LDE opposite Harvey longterm. Add in Groves as a situational pass rushers and the Jags have a talented core of young DEs. 3. Jairus Byrd: BAP and fills a need at CB. His skills should translate well into the cover 2 scheme in Jacksonville. I would have liked a DT in the first rounds but never thought the players available yielded proper value. The Jaguars would still have several more holes to fill and only 3 more draft picks. In the real thing, I expect the Jags to try and trade down often to get enough picks to address multiple needs. If we had gone another round Chip Vaughn would have been on the top of my list. Brandon Tate and Chris Baker are guys I would have targeted in later rounds.

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I liked your picks, especially the selection of Robert Ayers in round 2. Any thoughts at all of selecting a QB with one of those first 3 picks?

I'd be happy with these 2.( from Sig's mock) Can Sig please draft for us?

Raji in the first

Clay Mathews in the 2nd.

73. Green Bay - Andy Levitre, OL, Oregon State - Levitre played LT at Oregon State, and even though he’s being projected at guard in the NFL, he’s about the same size as starting Packer right tackle Mark Tauscher (who was sidelined with an ACL tear in December). Levitre seems like a natural for a zone blocking team, and he would provide depth at four offensive line positions.

83. Green Bay (from New York Jets) - Connor Barwin, DE, Cincinnati - I don’t know if the Pack would be looking to grab two OLB prospects to help their transition to the 3-4, but I also don’t know if they could pass up a talent like Barwin if he fell to the mid third round. Barwin has tons of potential and looked like a natural after he moved to DE from TE, leading the Big East in sacks this year. He could easily be a top 50 pick.

You could pretend my Gilbert and Barwin picks were reversed, probably more accurate vs. the real draft.

1 1 Detroit Matt Stafford QB Georgia

1 20 Detroit (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State

3 65 Detroit Derrick Williams WR Penn State

2 33 Detroit Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

3 82 Detroit (from Dallas) Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati

I would be very upset if Detroit picked this. Four out of five offense? Our offense at least has potential. Our defense? Holy COW is it horrible. I REALLY hope we go top OT with the 1.1 and defense at 1.20, like Laurinaitis or something along those lines. We have many holes to fill, but defense and O-line have got to be addressed if we are to ever make a splash in the NFL. I just don't understand the rush to get Stafford at 1.1 when next year there will be a MUCH better crop of QBs available in the draft. The top three QBs (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman) are all underclassmen, and need time to mature. Sure, they could bust out and be the next Matt Ryan, but I think that was a rare occurrence. You don't see that happen often. To dump all that money into another QB that will need time maturing when you have so many other holes, is just ridiculous.

Mr. Brownstone said:

Wadsworth said:

For the Jaguars:1. Jason Smith: While I do think that Smith's value justifies a selection at #8, this was a pure need pick. The Jaguars don't have a left tackle on roster right now and someone has to block Freeney, Mario Williams and Vanden Bosch twice a season among others. 2. Robert Ayers: BAP and could develop into an every down LDE opposite Harvey longterm. Add in Groves as a situational pass rushers and the Jags have a talented core of young DEs. 3. Jairus Byrd: BAP and fills a need at CB. His skills should translate well into the cover 2 scheme in Jacksonville. I would have liked a DT in the first rounds but never thought the players available yielded proper value. The Jaguars would still have several more holes to fill and only 3 more draft picks. In the real thing, I expect the Jags to try and trade down often to get enough picks to address multiple needs. If we had gone another round Chip Vaughn would have been on the top of my list. Brandon Tate and Chris Baker are guys I would have targeted in later rounds.

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I liked your picks, especially the selection of Robert Ayers in round 2. Any thoughts at all of selecting a QB with one of those first 3 picks?

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I didn't feel there was ever a point in the draft that QB was close to BAP. But beyond that, I think that in all likelihood this is Del Rio's last season and I'd rather wait to draft a QB until the next coach is in place. Weaver has made it clear that he is cutting costs and not interested in any quick fixes. To me, that translate to another lack luster season which should cost Del Rio his job. I seriously doubt Jack would still be the head coach if he didn't just sign a big contract. With that in mind, and not being too thrilled with any of the early round QBs, it would be very unlikely that I'd draft a QB in first 3 rounds if it was my call. As far as the Ayers pick, I kind of like it too. Smith is a solid pick and Byrd would be a steal in round 3. But Ayers wasn't anyone I was targeting going into the draft, it just seemed like too much value to pass up if no one falls out of round 1. Even after this mock was done I went back and looked to see if I'd have changed anything and decided I like all the picks.

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Mr. Brownstone said:

Wadsworth said:

For the Jaguars:1. Jason Smith: While I do think that Smith's value justifies a selection at #8, this was a pure need pick. The Jaguars don't have a left tackle on roster right now and someone has to block Freeney, Mario Williams and Vanden Bosch twice a season among others. 2. Robert Ayers: BAP and could develop into an every down LDE opposite Harvey longterm. Add in Groves as a situational pass rushers and the Jags have a talented core of young DEs. 3. Jairus Byrd: BAP and fills a need at CB. His skills should translate well into the cover 2 scheme in Jacksonville. I would have liked a DT in the first rounds but never thought the players available yielded proper value. The Jaguars would still have several more holes to fill and only 3 more draft picks. In the real thing, I expect the Jags to try and trade down often to get enough picks to address multiple needs. If we had gone another round Chip Vaughn would have been on the top of my list. Brandon Tate and Chris Baker are guys I would have targeted in later rounds.

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I liked your picks, especially the selection of Robert Ayers in round 2. Any thoughts at all of selecting a QB with one of those first 3 picks?

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I didn't feel there was ever a point in the draft that QB was close to BAP. But beyond that, I think that in all likelihood this is Del Rio's last season and I'd rather wait to draft a QB until the next coach is in place. Weaver has made it clear that he is cutting costs and not interested in any quick fixes. To me, that translate to another lack luster season which should cost Del Rio his job. I seriously doubt Jack would still be the head coach if he didn't just sign a big contract. With that in mind, and not being too thrilled with any of the early round QBs, it would be very unlikely that I'd draft a QB in first 3 rounds if it was my call. As far as the Ayers pick, I kind of like it too. Smith is a solid pick and Byrd would be a steal in round 3. But Ayers wasn't anyone I was targeting going into the draft, it just seemed like too much value to pass up if no one falls out of round 1. Even after this mock was done I went back and looked to see if I'd have changed anything and decided I like all the picks.

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Ayers was a guy that didn't factor that much but actually got more pub/buzz during our draft. If were were to draft again right now I'm guessing Ayers would probably go closer to the 1st if not in the 1st. I may have considered him in the 1st round for the Pats if we were to do it again.

Chicago Hooligan said:

You could pretend my Gilbert and Barwin picks were reversed, probably more accurate vs. the real draft.

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I wasn't against the Barwin pick I just thought it was too early. Maybe Ted will trade down to #20 and get an extra 3rd.

NO Saints; 1.14 Cushing, OLB.

The Saints need help on the defensive side. The Saints need a shot in the arm at LB, especially if they are unable to re-sign Vilma. CB is where they have the most depth, even if the talent isn't abundant. Safety would have been a reach at 1.14. Cushing could start over Shanle or Fujita at OLB.

bcr8f said:

Chicago Hooligan said:

You could pretend my Gilbert and Barwin picks were reversed, probably more accurate vs. the real draft.

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I wasn't against the Barwin pick I just thought it was too early. Maybe Ted will trade down to #20 and get an extra 3rd.

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Hey, I would've taken Clay Matthews Jr. in the 2nd if he was there (as in Sigmund Bloom's mock) but I don't think he'll be available in the NFL draft at that spot either.

At 1st blush I think too many Linebackers were drafted in the 1st round. I doubt that happens.

Hate the Vikings picks Andy. I hope the focus is on the Oline or defense.

Coming in late to pick for the Cowboys my goal was to focus on need but remain honest to PBA. The other consideration is that if the Cowboys do let as many incumbants on defense walk as some think then they will almost certainly have some replacement veteran free agents lined up. The more I think about it, the less I'd like a team with 2-3 starting rookies (non 1st rounders) if the team truly still has Superbowl aspirations.

So, if you assume the team will find quality veteran options at key possible starting roles: SS, MLB, OLB, DE then PBA makes sense. They do have a need at NT but as mentioned before, this may not be the best 3-4 NT class.

Beyond the obvious needs are depth at OL, WR, QB, CB, and NT. So ... pretty much everywhere is an option.

When I went Butler the profile on him suggests he can help immediately and has shut-down corner upside. Certain positions are simply not "critical" but CB certainly is a position teams place a premium on. Based on how the mock played out and my gut instinct that the Cowboys will take premium positions suggests OT, CB, or DL will be their choices. A SS is popular and may happen but a rookie captaining a playoff defense is risky.

If Butler loses stock or if the team fills up on defense in free agency then my 2nd round pick would be Loadholt or Meredeth or similar at OT.

I also must say I like Bloom's writeup on the guys I picked for Dallas. While I took Ricky earlier than Bloom did, he still perhaps could end up a 3rd round steal.

40. Oakland - Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut - The Raiders may franchise Nnamdi Asomugha, but they have a glaring hole at the other corner (even though Chris Johnson did hold up well after DeAngelo Hall was cut), and Butler should have the speed to fit the profile of a Raiders corner. Butler has the upside to be the top corner in this draft when the dust settles, but he’s also slight and might have trouble hanging with the NFL’s bigger WRs.

96. Pittsburgh - Ricky Jean-Francois, DL, LSU - The Steelers aren’t usually ones to take risk/reward players, but Jean-Francois could be a beast of an end in the 3-4 with his length, strength, and quickness. If he takes to the Steelers culture and gives 100% on every play, he’ll be one of the steals of the draft.

Biabreakable said:

At 1st blush I think too many Linebackers were drafted in the 1st round. I doubt that happens.Hate the Vikings picks Andy. I hope the focus is on the Oline or defense.

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What part of the defense? I did draft a d-lineman.

The results for the Baltimore Ravens:

ROUND 1:

Jeff Pasquino said:

With the 26th pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select....



1.26 Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland

The Ravens #1 need is probably cornerback, but with Heyward-Bey still on the board (and a good likelihood of corners available in Round 2) the Ravens have to take Heyward-Bey. Joe Flacco needs more viable targets and Derrick Mason is closer to retirement than Baltimore fans want to admit. Mark Clayton could still emerge, but right now Flacco needs to grow and mature with a playmaker wideout. The former Terrapin is a potential true NFL WR #1 and his Maryland ties are also a plus (which may soften the blow if Ray Lewis heads for bigger money elsewhere).

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ROUND 2:

Jeff Pasquino said:

With the 57th pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select.....

Victor "Macho" Harris, CB, Virginia Tech

The Ravens need to address corner, and having Harris available near the end of Round 2 is perfect for them (and a reason for them to grab a WR at the tail end of Round 1).

As for Harris, Virginia Tech had a loaded defense in 2006 and 2007, but that did not stop him from becoming a starter at the corner position. As a junior Harris collected five interceptions and broke up 11 passes. For his efforts, he was named to the All-ACC first-team.

Harris' speed and athleticism can be used more than just at cornerback or wide receiver; the 6-0, 194 pound DB is also a solid return man. He is more known for his punt returning, but in 2007 he returned a kick-off 100 yards for a touchdown. Harris certainly has the athleticism to play corner in the NFL, but he is also tough and plays very physical. There are a few things in his mechanics that need a little help, but he will learn.

Harris ended up notching 46 tackles and six interceptions by the time the Hokies wrapped up the 2008 season. Since the opposition rarely tested Harris, those are pretty solid numbers.

That's the key with some of these guys - you don't know how good they are (like Brandon Flowers) because their conference already does and they don't throw at them. Harris is a shutdown corner and has to be addressed as such in the NFL. If he can translate these skills to the next level the Ravens will have another starting corner, which is exactly what they need.

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ROUND 3:

Jeff Pasquino said:

With the 88th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select:

Cody Brown, DE, UCONN

This makes sense on many levels, but especially if Terrell "T-Sizzle" Suggs doesn't return.

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Going into the draft, I wanted to get an impact defensive player with the first 2 picks who could come in and start or at least push for playing time. I would have liked to have taken a safety but it didn't work out that way. Running back is another potential need but I like some of the guys like Jeremiah Johnson and Rashad Jennings, two guys who were still on the board after the 3-round draft was over. My third-round pick was a combination of what I thought could be BPA and filled a potential need. I'll just copy and paste my write ups from the draft.



1.12 Rey Maualuga, LB USC

Maualuga is a tenacious hitter who will bring attitude and toughness to a defense that has been lacking both since Al Wilson left. Maualuga is a big body who IMO is the best fit for a 3-4 MLB in the draft. He will be able to come in and make an instant impact. With the news that DJ Williams might play inside or outside in the 3-4, it gives Denver a little versatility at the LB position. Maualuga reminds me a lot of a younger Junior Seau and may be a player they can build their defense around for years to come. He can make some mental mistakes at times but he's as big a playmaker as they come at MLB and there were times throughout his college career where he seemed to get in a zone and take over (see last year's Rose Bowl vs. Illinois). He has a knack for the big hit and may be able to step up as a vocal leader for a defense that needs all the help it can get. I think he will be the latest in a long line of stud LBs who hail from Southern Cal.

2.16 Ron Brace, DT Boston College

Denver can go a number of ways here and I wouldn't be surprised to see them trade up to grab a guy they are targeting considering they have 9 picks in the draft. I was ready to take Louis Delmas but Miami beat me to it. Brace is the best fit for the 3-4 NT still on the board. He is a big space eater who is not going to create too many plays on his own but he will take up a couple blockers to free up the ILBs. Denver will have to pick up a NT in the offseason if they are going to make any kind of switch to the 3-4 and while Brace fits the profile, he probably benefited from playing next to BJ Raji. He's a guy who doesn't always play with the proper leverage but that is something that can be taught. Conditionaing may be an issue but come on, the guy is a DT that is expected. I considered Rashad Johnson here but as much as Denver could use a couple of new safeties, they can use some beef up front too.

3.15 Mike Mickens, CB Cincinnati

Denver' starting corners (Champ Bailey and Dre Bly) are on the wrong side of 30 and nickelback Karl Paymah is due to hit a free agency this offseason. Mickens is a playmaker who was a 4 year starter for the Bearcats. He's a ball hawk who can stand to add a little weight. But with Denver having second-year guys Jack Williams and Josh Bell (an undrafted free agent) behind Bailey and Bly, it would be wise to invest in another corner if a guy like Mickens is available in round 3.

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massraider said:

Raiders:

I was trying to emulate what my team would do, not what I necessarily would do.

1st round: Crabtree represents both. What I'd do, and what the team would do (IMO). Although I have to admit that a BJ Raji or Everette Brown is tempting. If Crabtree is gone, I think D-Line might be the spot, rather than OT. Davis was behind the Mario Henderson pick, and he played well at LT when finally given the chance. So even if a Jason Smith makes sense there, I don't see it happening. I think Maclin would be more likely.

2nd round: Michael Johnson: Love the athletic ability, a bit concerned he wasn't ever really dominant. But his workout numbers will be sick, I would not be surprised if he moves back up draft boards. Was hoping for Alex Mack here. If I was in charge, probably would have taken Beatty, the OT from UCONN, but Johnson has Al Davis written all over him.

3rd round: Troy Kropog: Maybe this is where Al Davis throws Cable a bone, giving him a young agile OT to play with. I wouldn't be shocked to see a CB here, either. Coye Francis went a pick before me, he carries the stench of an Al Davis pick as well.

If I was in charge of the team, with hindsight, I'd probably take Raji and Beatty, then go with a D-linemen or WR in round 3. But given circumstances, I think this is how I'd expect the Raiders to react.

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Good job massraider, the three picks all are in areas of need and would only help the Raiders get better. I also agree a CB could be looked at in the first three rounds to go opposite Asomugha.

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They resigned Chris Johnson to a 4 yeard deal. He was very solid opposite Nnamdi.Good job, mass.

Andy Dufresne said:

Biabreakable said:

At 1st blush I think too many Linebackers were drafted in the 1st round. I doubt that happens.Hate the Vikings picks Andy. I hope the focus is on the Oline or defense.

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What part of the defense? I did draft a d-lineman.

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Well I don't claim to know very much about the college players available yet at this point. I think the main focus needs to be Oline and honestly a good player at Guard Tackle or Center could be considered.If the Olinemen available are not up to snuff I think we could add a play maker on defense at nearly every position. I like that you took a DT but then why not Peria Jerry who was available in the 1st round? I really liked what I saw from him and doubt he will be available at 22. If he is I think the Vikings should consider him. I think he could play some LE possibly and we already know he can play inside.I think the biggest need besides QB is either Tackle or Cornerback but I believe in taking BPA. I don't think Harvin was the BPA there but maybe I am wrong.

1 16 San Diego Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri

This one has me baffled and would love to hear the reasoning. VJax is becoming a star. Chambers is decent and they seem to really love Floyd and Nannee. Also, they do have 1st round pick Davis. Even if they cut Chambers and go with VJax, Floyd and Davis, a 1st round wr is not what they need. ILB, Safety, Oline, RB and DT are all BIGGER needs then another WR.

While some say WR's aren't worth elite picks others say Maclin is a top 10 PBA. If he does fall that far ... someone needs to ignore need and go PBA.

krsone21 said:

massraider said:

Raiders:

I was trying to emulate what my team would do, not what I necessarily would do.

1st round: Crabtree represents both. What I'd do, and what the team would do (IMO). Although I have to admit that a BJ Raji or Everette Brown is tempting. If Crabtree is gone, I think D-Line might be the spot, rather than OT. Davis was behind the Mario Henderson pick, and he played well at LT when finally given the chance. So even if a Jason Smith makes sense there, I don't see it happening. I think Maclin would be more likely.

2nd round: Michael Johnson: Love the athletic ability, a bit concerned he wasn't ever really dominant. But his workout numbers will be sick, I would not be surprised if he moves back up draft boards. Was hoping for Alex Mack here. If I was in charge, probably would have taken Beatty, the OT from UCONN, but Johnson has Al Davis written all over him.

3rd round: Troy Kropog: Maybe this is where Al Davis throws Cable a bone, giving him a young agile OT to play with. I wouldn't be shocked to see a CB here, either. Coye Francis went a pick before me, he carries the stench of an Al Davis pick as well.

If I was in charge of the team, with hindsight, I'd probably take Raji and Beatty, then go with a D-linemen or WR in round 3. But given circumstances, I think this is how I'd expect the Raiders to react.

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Good job massraider, the three picks all are in areas of need and would only help the Raiders get better. I also agree a CB could be looked at in the first three rounds to go opposite Asomugha.

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Chris Johnson looked pretty good to me when he got his chance to start. I think they are all set at #1 and #2 CB

The Jets:

1 17 New York Jets Vontae Davis CB Illinois

2 53 New York Jets Donald Brown RB Connecticut

3 76 New York Jets (from New Orleans) Herman Johnson OG LSU

While Andy made the Davis pick for me, it was also my choice. The Jets are woefully thin at CB, after Revis there was little... and when Barrett got released there was nothing. I definetitly see the Jets addressing this position early, and still might look to sign yet another FA CB. Davis has some character concerns, but need trumps that here, as Davis should be a viable starter immediately.

I was very happy to see Brown drop here, a good all purpose RB to play behind Jones. I expect the Jets will run more often this year, and Brown will see plenty of touches in a Ryan ground control run oriented offense.... which is why the Jets don't go after a QB in this draft. They got by with only two RB's in 2008... they will need a thrid this year even if the injury gods again ignore the Jets O line and RB's.

The Jets O line was much improved this year, and was good enough to get a running game established while still protecting the QB reasonably well, but there is no depth. Johnson could be used immediately in short yardage situations. His sheer immensity and power is one thing, but even ignoring his size, he shows good explosiveness off the snap. I think it would be near impossible to stop Jones running to the right side wit Mangold, Johnson and Woody leading the way and Tony Richardson cleaning up behind them before Jones even gets to the line.

The Jets need an ILB especially if they don't re-sign Barton, but I just did not like what was left after addressing the CB position in the first round. I think the Jets will do all they can to sign Bart Scott. From the owner to he caoches, the Jets say they will go with the winner out of Clemmens, Ratliff and Ainge for the QB job, and I am not convinced Sanchez is any better a prospect than this group represents.

I the Jets draft went this way, I'd be pleased... any Jets homers care to offer a counter-point?

Sinrman said:

1 1 Detroit Matt Stafford QB Georgia

1 20 Detroit (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State

3 65 Detroit Derrick Williams WR Penn State

2 33 Detroit Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

3 82 Detroit (from Dallas) Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati

I would be very upset if Detroit picked this. Four out of five offense? Our offense at least has potential. Our defense? Holy COW is it horrible. I REALLY hope we go top OT with the 1.1 and defense at 1.20, like Laurinaitis or something along those lines. We have many holes to fill, but defense and O-line have got to be addressed if we are to ever make a splash in the NFL. I just don't understand the rush to get Stafford at 1.1 when next year there will be a MUCH better crop of QBs available in the draft. The top three QBs (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman) are all underclassmen, and need time to mature. Sure, they could bust out and be the next Matt Ryan, but I think that was a rare occurrence. You don't see that happen often. To dump all that money into another QB that will need time maturing when you have so many other holes, is just ridiculous.

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Agreed, though I'd have no problem if the Lions went with Curry or best OT at #1. I just cannot see the Lions grabbing anything other than O-line on the offensive side of the ball with their first 5 picks...unless some unbelievable value presents itself.

As an innocent and humble bystander of this great mock I would like to hand out winners and losers award. Please take what I say lightly since I'm in no way sure I would have made a better job myself.



Winners:

Jacksonville - Needed a tackle, a defensive and and a cornerback and got it all. I really like the Jason Smith pick. If Ayers live up to his potential this will be a masterpiece of a draft for the Jags.

Oakland - Along with Jacksonville I really liked this draft as potentially the best all-around. They got a WR and still managed to bolster their pass rush with Johnson and get a value pick at tackle. I think Troy Kropog will be a surprise star for many at tackle.

Solid drafts:

Chicago - Got a lot out the first two picks (Mark Sanchez and William Beatty) but I'm unsure if a left tackle like Beatty is what they need the most with Chris Williams in town but he did represent astonishing value where he was picked at 2.18.

Cincinnati - I really liked the Michael Oher and Max Unger selections. If the Bengals were to pick like this they would have to be considered winners in my eyes. Perhaps Jason Smith is a better pick than Michael Oher in the end but we don't know that for sure yet.

Indianapolis - Adressing both a need inside at the offensive line and getting a solid DT like Ziggy Hood is very good cosnidering they pick late in each round. Mack may be sensational as a guard early and eventually take over for Saturday. Hood is very solid for their defensive system.

New Orleans - Just one pick but I liked it (Brian Cushing)

N.Y. Giants - I liked the Giants picks a lot. I think both English and Nicks are pro ready early and Meredith will be a solid left tackle for them in a while.

Philly - Liked it. Left tackle (check - Britton), runningback (check - McCoy might be the best in this class in the end), TE (check - but I know little about Cook really)

Seattle - Monroe and Britt were very solid picks that both met needs. Only question is if Seattle will invest in a tackle wuith the contract they signed Locklear to a while back (and the hefty contract Walter Jones carries)?

Tampa Bay - Freeman at pick 50 make this a solid draft and Wells upgrades their RB-stable (but what about drafting Peria Jerry instead).

Losers:

Minnesota - Sorry Andy but I don't like it. I don't see how Harvin fits their needs. Marks is a solid player but doesn't represent a great need imo. Nate Davis is a clip-holder at the next level and they have to many in that category already.

New England - I agree with the "mock-GM" here. I prefer English over Sintim. I also think the Pats can do without a TE addition and rather need a CB at the spot where Casey was picked. I like the pick of Chung and Magee better but the start has me worried.

St. Louis - I think the Rams can do better at 1.02 (either Monroe or Crabtree) than getting a tackle prospect with questionable feet and with constant weight troubles. I don't like William Moore much either with Louis Delmas and Rashad Johnson available as well as a bunch of solid cornerbacks.

J Andersson said:

As an innocent and humble bystander of this great mock I would like to hand out winners and losers award. Please take what I say lightly since I'm in no way sure I would have made a better job myself.

Losers:

New England - I agree with the "mock-GM" here. I prefer English over Sintim. I also think the Pats can do without a TE addition and rather need a CB at the spot where Casey was picked. I like the pick of Chung and Magee better but the start has me worried.

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I appreciate the input. Like I said before, in hindsight, I hate the Sintim pick because it's too safe and boring. He probably does not grade out as a 1st rounder. Maybe a CB should have been the pick in the 1st since everyone piles on so much about how NE needs a CB, but I was trying to combine BPA/Need in my draft. Sintim was my pick more for need than anything else, plus he played OLB in the 3-4 and could play ILB for NE as well. And his production in college is hard to question.....huge sack totals. I don't think teams put as much emphasis on filling perceived needs in the early rounds as some draft geeks would like. I thought Casey was an awesome pick for NE in the 2nd round myself. He could add a weapon to that offense that's been missing. Ben Watson is meh and David Thomas is bleh. Besides, both of them are becoming FA in 2010. Casey could give defenses fits while they're trying to keep track of Moss and Welker already. I really like that pick for NE. Casey is a special athlete....in fact, Bloom has him as a 1st rounder in his recent mock, going to the Colts.

Maybe I should have taken a CB there but NE took Wheatley in the 2nd and Wilhite in the 4th last year. Both of them have shown promise and Wheatley, although hurt last year, should be healthy in 2009. Maybe CB is not the need everyone thinks it is for the Pats.

Chung was a value pick where I took him. I'm not sure he fits what NE wants though, he may be too small. I know for a fact they've shown interest in Nic Harris from Oklahoma and it may be to become the next Rodney Harrison.

Magee could be an excellent DE in a 3-4 and the Pats are going to have issues at that position after 2009 because of contracts being up for Seymour and Green.

So, in summary, I agree with you about the Sintim pick but liked the rest of my draft. I'm not sold on CB being the need everybody else thinks it is. That's why I took Sintim. If NE can produce more of a pass rush, the CB's will end up better for it. That may be #1 on BB's list this off season....making life more difficult for opposing QB's. That starts up front, it always starts up front.

The Captain said:

Sinrman said:

1 1 Detroit Matt Stafford QB Georgia

1 20 Detroit (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State

3 65 Detroit Derrick Williams WR Penn State

2 33 Detroit Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

3 82 Detroit (from Dallas) Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati

I would be very upset if Detroit picked this. Four out of five offense? Our offense at least has potential. Our defense? Holy COW is it horrible. I REALLY hope we go top OT with the 1.1 and defense at 1.20, like Laurinaitis or something along those lines. We have many holes to fill, but defense and O-line have got to be addressed if we are to ever make a splash in the NFL. I just don't understand the rush to get Stafford at 1.1 when next year there will be a MUCH better crop of QBs available in the draft. The top three QBs (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman) are all underclassmen, and need time to mature. Sure, they could bust out and be the next Matt Ryan, but I think that was a rare occurrence. You don't see that happen often. To dump all that money into another QB that will need time maturing when you have so many other holes, is just ridiculous.

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Agreed, though I'd have no problem if the Lions went with Curry or best OT at #1. I just cannot see the Lions grabbing anything other than O-line on the offensive side of the ball with their first 5 picks...unless some unbelievable value presents itself.

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Like a lot of other Lions fans out there the last few years have been rough. With the fact that they did not even consider other viable GM's out there (including Reese who was begging for the job), I will be very critical of their draft. If they were to draft like this, I have no doubt in my mind I would not watch another game next season. That would tell me that nothing has changed and they are still clueless.

J Andersson said:

As an innocent and humble bystander of this great mock I would like to hand out winners and losers award. Please take what I say lightly since I'm in no way sure I would have made a better job myself.



Winners:

Jacksonville - Needed a tackle, a defensive and and a cornerback and got it all. I really like the Jason Smith pick. If Ayers live up to his potential this will be a masterpiece of a draft for the Jags.

Oakland - Along with Jacksonville I really liked this draft as potentially the best all-around. They got a WR and still managed to bolster their pass rush with Johnson and get a value pick at tackle. I think Troy Kropog will be a surprise star for many at tackle.

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You are obviously a savvy, intelligent person. You should post more.

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

The Captain said:

Sinrman said:

1 1 Detroit Matt Stafford QB Georgia

1 20 Detroit (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State

3 65 Detroit Derrick Williams WR Penn State

2 33 Detroit Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

3 82 Detroit (from Dallas) Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati

I would be very upset if Detroit picked this. Four out of five offense? Our offense at least has potential. Our defense? Holy COW is it horrible. I REALLY hope we go top OT with the 1.1 and defense at 1.20, like Laurinaitis or something along those lines. We have many holes to fill, but defense and O-line have got to be addressed if we are to ever make a splash in the NFL. I just don't understand the rush to get Stafford at 1.1 when next year there will be a MUCH better crop of QBs available in the draft. The top three QBs (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman) are all underclassmen, and need time to mature. Sure, they could bust out and be the next Matt Ryan, but I think that was a rare occurrence. You don't see that happen often. To dump all that money into another QB that will need time maturing when you have so many other holes, is just ridiculous.

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Agreed, though I'd have no problem if the Lions went with Curry or best OT at #1. I just cannot see the Lions grabbing anything other than O-line on the offensive side of the ball with their first 5 picks...unless some unbelievable value presents itself.

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Like a lot of other Lions fans out there the last few years have been rough. With the fact that they did not even consider other viable GM's out there (including Reese who was begging for the job), I will be very critical of their draft. If they were to draft like this, I have no doubt in my mind I would not watch another game next season. That would tell me that nothing has changed and they are still clueless.

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I just wanted to bump the fact that in a February mock draft I nailed 3 of Detroit's top-5 picks.I'm curious, since this was pretty close to how Detroit's draft panned out, how upset are you Lions fans?

travdogg said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

The Captain said:

Sinrman said:

1 1 Detroit Matt Stafford QB Georgia

1 20 Detroit (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State

3 65 Detroit Derrick Williams WR Penn State

2 33 Detroit Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

3 82 Detroit (from Dallas) Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati

I would be very upset if Detroit picked this. Four out of five offense? Our offense at least has potential. Our defense? Holy COW is it horrible. I REALLY hope we go top OT with the 1.1 and defense at 1.20, like Laurinaitis or something along those lines. We have many holes to fill, but defense and O-line have got to be addressed if we are to ever make a splash in the NFL. I just don't understand the rush to get Stafford at 1.1 when next year there will be a MUCH better crop of QBs available in the draft. The top three QBs (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman) are all underclassmen, and need time to mature. Sure, they could bust out and be the next Matt Ryan, but I think that was a rare occurrence. You don't see that happen often. To dump all that money into another QB that will need time maturing when you have so many other holes, is just ridiculous.

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Agreed, though I'd have no problem if the Lions went with Curry or best OT at #1. I just cannot see the Lions grabbing anything other than O-line on the offensive side of the ball with their first 5 picks...unless some unbelievable value presents itself.

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Like a lot of other Lions fans out there the last few years have been rough. With the fact that they did not even consider other viable GM's out there (including Reese who was begging for the job), I will be very critical of their draft. If they were to draft like this, I have no doubt in my mind I would not watch another game next season. That would tell me that nothing has changed and they are still clueless.

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I just wanted to bump the fact that in a February mock draft I nailed 3 of Detroit's top-5 picks.I'm curious, since this was pretty close to how Detroit's draft panned out, how upset are you Lions fans?

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nicely done. I remember a lot of people were all over you saying how stupid you were for avoiding OL and defense early in the draft. I guess you showed them

travdogg said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

The Captain said:

Sinrman said:

1 1 Detroit Matt Stafford QB Georgia

1 20 Detroit (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State

3 65 Detroit Derrick Williams WR Penn State

2 33 Detroit Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

3 82 Detroit (from Dallas) Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati

I would be very upset if Detroit picked this. Four out of five offense? Our offense at least has potential. Our defense? Holy COW is it horrible. I REALLY hope we go top OT with the 1.1 and defense at 1.20, like Laurinaitis or something along those lines. We have many holes to fill, but defense and O-line have got to be addressed if we are to ever make a splash in the NFL. I just don't understand the rush to get Stafford at 1.1 when next year there will be a MUCH better crop of QBs available in the draft. The top three QBs (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman) are all underclassmen, and need time to mature. Sure, they could bust out and be the next Matt Ryan, but I think that was a rare occurrence. You don't see that happen often. To dump all that money into another QB that will need time maturing when you have so many other holes, is just ridiculous.

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Agreed, though I'd have no problem if the Lions went with Curry or best OT at #1. I just cannot see the Lions grabbing anything other than O-line on the offensive side of the ball with their first 5 picks...unless some unbelievable value presents itself.

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Like a lot of other Lions fans out there the last few years have been rough. With the fact that they did not even consider other viable GM's out there (including Reese who was begging for the job), I will be very critical of their draft. If they were to draft like this, I have no doubt in my mind I would not watch another game next season. That would tell me that nothing has changed and they are still clueless.

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I just wanted to bump the fact that in a February mock draft I nailed 3 of Detroit's top-5 picks.I'm curious, since this was pretty close to how Detroit's draft panned out, how upset are you Lions fans?

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Congrats, though it's not a surprise as I'm sure Detroit's methodology was heavily message board driven Interesting to note that in this three round mock the guys the Bengals ended up getting were drafted 2, 12, 40, 42, and 90.

-QG