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GALLOWAY SIGNS WITH PATRIOTS

Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 14, 2009, 3:11 p.m. EDT

The New England Patriots have signed former Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver Joey Galloway to a one-year contract, according to Steve Duemig of WDAE in Tampa.

In four starts last season, Galloway caught 13 passes for 138 yards. In 2007, he caught 57 passes for 1,014 yards and six touchdowns.

According to NFL.com, Galloway has registered 682 career receptions for 10,710 yards and 77 touchdowns in 14 NFL seasons.

WDAE in Tampa via Profootballtalk

 
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The Patriots are having a very nice offseason adding depth. Galloway sure seems like an upgrade from Gaffney.

 
Absolutely love this signing. The Pats needed someone who can handle the #3 role that also has the ability to make the big play. While he's not getting any younger he's still a player that defenses have to account for. His presence will give Welker (and possibly Baker) that much more room to operate underneath. This also pushes Lewis down in the depth chart where he is now an upgrade over what they had at #4/#5 last year (which was pretty much nothing). My guess is the Pats also add in another wideout thru the draft and cross their fingers that he can take over for Galloway in 2010.

Overall the Pats have added quality veterans to their skill positions in Baker, Taylor and Galloway (as well as Lewis) at a very team-friendly price. They have a very deep O at the skill positions (Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Baker, Watson, Thomas, Morris, Taylor, Faulk, Maroney and BJGE) and have given themselves even more flexibility on draft day.

 
The great thing about Galloway is that, along with his speed, he's very fresh since he didn't play last season. For an older guy in the NFL that's huge.

I'm a Bucs fan, but I'm envious of the Pats' front office. Simply the best in the league.

 
The Patriots could sign Charles Manson and you guys would say what a great signing by the Patriots. Hell, he may not even make their team.

 
Galloway's one of the more fascinating players of our era, IMO. There are a bunch of reasons to think he's one of the most underrated players of all time. Ultimately, though, he'll be remembered as one of the biggest underachievers, I suspect. When you have the best statistical season of your career at age 34, that sort of says it all.

Anyway, at age 38 in November, I don't expect much of anything from him. He might come up with some clutch catches if he makes the team, but he's got almost no fantasy value in even larger leagues.

 
Chase Stuart said:
Galloway's one of the more fascinating players of our era, IMO. There are a bunch of reasons to think he's one of the most underrated players of all time. Ultimately, though, he'll be remembered as one of the biggest underachievers, I suspect. When you have the best statistical season of your career at age 34, that sort of says it all.Anyway, at age 38 in November, I don't expect much of anything from him. He might come up with some clutch catches if he makes the team, but he's got almost no fantasy value in even larger leagues.
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Other guys who had arguably the best seasons of their career at age 34: Irving Fryar, Frank Lewis, Bobby Engram. No one jumps off the page to me as having their best season at age 35 or later, although Fryar and Cris Carter had arguably top two seasons if their careers at age 35. But the point remains that it's pretty rare and telling.On the other side of the table, Sammy White, Michael Clayton, Billy Howton and Koren Robinson who peaked at age 22.
 
Based on the rough assumptions below, for 2009 I put Galloway at about WR50 in redraft.

The following are stats for everyone over 20 catches in NE the last 3 years:

2008

Team = 339 catches

Moss + Welker = 180 catches

Faulk .... 58-486-3

Gaffney .... 38-468-2

Watson .... 22-209-2

2007

Team = 403 catches

Moss + Welker = 210 catches

Faulk .... 47-383-1

Stallworth .... 46-697-3

Gaffney .... 38-468-2

Watson .... 36-389-6

2006

Team = 326 catches

R Caldwell .... 61-760-4

Watson .... 49-643-3

T Brown .... 43-384-4

Faulk .... 43-356-2

Gabriel .... 25-344-3

Maroney .... 22-194-1

Graham .... 21-235-2

We all know that 2007 was a record setting year and can't be expected to be repeated. And in 2006 catches were very spread out because Brady really didn't have any go to receivers like he did once Moss and Welker arrived.

If I put team catches in the 350-375 range, give 190-200 of those to Moss and Welker, and 80 to Faulk and Watson, that leaves 80-95 for the rest. In 2008 WR3 Gaffney got 38/79=48% of the rest. In 2007 Stallworth got 46/110=42% of the rest, but the percentage would have been somewhat higher except that as the season went along Gaffney took more and more time away from Stallworth.

I'll go with 45-50% of the 80-95 catch leftovers for the WR3 in 2009. Using that, I'm looking at a guess of maybe 40 catches for Galloway for maybe 600 yards and 3-4 TDs. That's about 80 fantasy points and a fantasy ranking of about WR50 or so.

I know that's a lot of rough assumptions, but it's a ball park start.

 
Moonlight_Graham said:
The Patriots could sign Charles Manson and you guys would say what a great signing by the Patriots. Hell, he may not even make their team.
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There is some truth to that. But I do think these are good moves. The reason is, the Pats are a SB contender. That lets you add vets/pieces/depth to win a SB. It's a lot easier to add backups, then adding starters. Plus guys take a pay cut to come there, so it looks even better. The Lions could do the same move, and be called out. Which is fine, they aren't close to winning jack, they don't need 37 year old WRs. So the Pats situation lends itself to smart moves, they're loaded. It's hard to argue with their success, it's pretty much the way to run a team in the NFL. The Pats love to take cheap gambles. Moss, Dillon, Seau. They buy for pennies on the dollar, constantly. Due to age, bad attitude, cast offs. That's where you get the most value. Doesn't always work, but they seem to pick their spots pretty damn well.And I’m not a pats fan, and I hate the pats, and I hope they go 0-16. But come on, these guys know their ####.
 
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.

 
Tyrion said:
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.
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Expecting much out of a guy who's turning 38 in November. Almost every great WR in history was out of the league by that age, and only three guys have even topped the 200 yards mark at that age. I don't expect him to be the WR3 for the team by December.
 
Meh. If they signed him cheap it's a great gamble. I think he's done (how much can he possibly have left at 38?) but he's proven skeptics wrong before.

I don't think he'll even beat out Greg Lewis.

 
Chase Stuart said:
Tyrion said:
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.
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Expecting much out of a guy who's turning 38 in November. Almost every great WR in history was out of the league by that age, and only three guys have even topped the 200 yards mark at that age. I don't expect him to be the WR3 for the team by December.
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Since Galloway starts the season at 37 years old and plays over half of it at that age, he doesn't fall into that category yet. So while Rice, Joiner and Fryar are the only three to accomplish the feat at age 38 or older, McCardell, Proehl, T. Brown, Monk, Drew Hill, and Don Maynard did at age 37. So I'd say Galloway has a decent shot at it coming off three straight 1,000 yard seasons prior to his injury filled '08 season.Another one to keep an eye on is Isaac Bruce, who is exactly one year younger than Galloway. I would say there's a high probability that he will have two more seasons with decent productivity and should easily surpass the 200 yard mark at age 38 if he chooses to play that long.
 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Chase Stuart said:
Tyrion said:
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.
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Expecting much out of a guy who's turning 38 in November. Almost every great WR in history was out of the league by that age, and only three guys have even topped the 200 yards mark at that age. I don't expect him to be the WR3 for the team by December.
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Since Galloway starts the season at 37 years old and plays over half of it at that age, he doesn't fall into that category yet. So while Rice, Joiner and Fryar are the only three to accomplish the feat at age 38 or older, McCardell, Proehl, T. Brown, Monk, Drew Hill, and Don Maynard did at age 37. So I'd say Galloway has a decent shot at it coming off three straight 1,000 yard seasons prior to his injury filled '08 season.Another one to keep an eye on is Isaac Bruce, who is exactly one year younger than Galloway. I would say there's a high probability that he will have two more seasons with decent productivity and should easily surpass the 200 yard mark at age 38 if he chooses to play that long.
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He falls into that category if you want him to. But even by your standards, Monk was 36, Drew Hill was 36, etc. in those years you're discussing. Galloway is old. He's a very long shot to hit the 500 yard mark.

 
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Chase Stuart said:
Ramblin Wreck said:
Chase Stuart said:
Tyrion said:
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.
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Expecting much out of a guy who's turning 38 in November. Almost every great WR in history was out of the league by that age, and only three guys have even topped the 200 yards mark at that age. I don't expect him to be the WR3 for the team by December.
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Since Galloway starts the season at 37 years old and plays over half of it at that age, he doesn't fall into that category yet. So while Rice, Joiner and Fryar are the only three to accomplish the feat at age 38 or older, McCardell, Proehl, T. Brown, Monk, Drew Hill, and Don Maynard did at age 37. So I'd say Galloway has a decent shot at it coming off three straight 1,000 yard seasons prior to his injury filled '08 season.Another one to keep an eye on is Isaac Bruce, who is exactly one year younger than Galloway. I would say there's a high probability that he will have two more seasons with decent productivity and should easily surpass the 200 yard mark at age 38 if he chooses to play that long.
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He falls into that category if you want him to. But even by your standards, Monk was 36, Drew Hill was 36, etc. in those years you're discussing. Galloway is old. He's a very long shot to hit the 500 yard mark.
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He's old, but not many WR's even play that long. Here's the list by fantasy points of 38+ WR's:
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NAME 	        POS 	   YR 	 AGE 	EXP 	G 	REC 	RECYD 	YD/REC 	RECTD 	FANT PT1	Jerry Rice	wr	2001	39	17	16	83	1139	13.72	9	167.902	Jerry Rice	wr	2002	40	18	16	92	1211	13.16	7	165.103	Charlie Joiner	wr	1985	38	17	16	59	932	15.80	7	135.204	Jerry Rice	wr	2000	38	16	16	75	805	10.73	7	122.305	Jerry Rice	wr	2003	41	19	16	63	869	13.79	2	98.906	Irving Fryar	wr	2000	38	17	14	41	548	13.37	5	86.407	Jerry Rice	wr	2004	42	20	17	30	429	14.30	3	60.908	Charlie Joiner	wr	1986	39	18	15	34	440	12.94	2	56.009	Tim Brown	wr	2004	38	17	15	24	200	8.33	1	26.0010	Art Monk	wr	1995	38	16	3	6	114	19.00	0	11.4011	Ricky Proehl	wr	2006	38	17	2	3	30	10.00	0	3.0012	Don Maynard	wr	1973	38	16	2	1	18	18.00	0	1.80
I think he has a decent chance to be a PPR WR3 for fantasy purposes.
 
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Chase Stuart said:
Tyrion said:
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.
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Expecting much out of a guy who's turning 38 in November. Almost every great WR in history was out of the league by that age, and only three guys have even topped the 200 yards mark at that age. I don't expect him to be the WR3 for the team by December.
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True, but only 7 players have even tried to play at age 38 and 3 of them were injured and barely played. In 5 out of the 9 seasons played by 38+ WR's who stayed healthy, they scored at least 162 FF points (PPR).
 
Chase Stuart said:
Ramblin Wreck said:
Chase Stuart said:
Tyrion said:
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.
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Expecting much out of a guy who's turning 38 in November. Almost every great WR in history was out of the league by that age, and only three guys have even topped the 200 yards mark at that age. I don't expect him to be the WR3 for the team by December.
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Since Galloway starts the season at 37 years old and plays over half of it at that age, he doesn't fall into that category yet. So while Rice, Joiner and Fryar are the only three to accomplish the feat at age 38 or older, McCardell, Proehl, T. Brown, Monk, Drew Hill, and Don Maynard did at age 37. So I'd say Galloway has a decent shot at it coming off three straight 1,000 yard seasons prior to his injury filled '08 season.Another one to keep an eye on is Isaac Bruce, who is exactly one year younger than Galloway. I would say there's a high probability that he will have two more seasons with decent productivity and should easily surpass the 200 yard mark at age 38 if he chooses to play that long.
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He falls into that category if you want him to. But even by your standards, Monk was 36, Drew Hill was 36, etc. in those years you're discussing. Galloway is old. He's a very long shot to hit the 500 yard mark.
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You just changed from 200 to 500 yards.
 
Chase Stuart said:
Ramblin Wreck said:
Chase Stuart said:
Tyrion said:
If Galloway is fully recovered from last season this is an ugly signing. Depending on Brady's health, I could see them having a better offense this season than the year before last.
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Expecting much out of a guy who's turning 38 in November. Almost every great WR in history was out of the league by that age, and only three guys have even topped the 200 yards mark at that age. I don't expect him to be the WR3 for the team by December.
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Since Galloway starts the season at 37 years old and plays over half of it at that age, he doesn't fall into that category yet. So while Rice, Joiner and Fryar are the only three to accomplish the feat at age 38 or older, McCardell, Proehl, T. Brown, Monk, Drew Hill, and Don Maynard did at age 37. So I'd say Galloway has a decent shot at it coming off three straight 1,000 yard seasons prior to his injury filled '08 season.Another one to keep an eye on is Isaac Bruce, who is exactly one year younger than Galloway. I would say there's a high probability that he will have two more seasons with decent productivity and should easily surpass the 200 yard mark at age 38 if he chooses to play that long.
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He falls into that category if you want him to. But even by your standards, Monk was 36, Drew Hill was 36, etc. in those years you're discussing. Galloway is old. He's a very long shot to hit the 500 yard mark.
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The only 38 year old WR who played and stayed healthy, but didn't get 500 yards was Tim Brown with the Bucs. Fryar, Joiner, and Rice all did.
 
I don't think he will be fantasy worthy, but I think he's a good signing. Barring an injury to Moss or Welker, I'd be surprised to see him substantially exceed Gaffney's numbers. He's here for a shot at a ring and the Pats want to be able to spread the field to keep Brady from having to make a lot of five and seven step drops on a recuperating knee.

 
Moonlight_Graham said:
JSH21 said:
Damn...was hoping the Steelers would sign him to replace Washington.
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Why would you want that? They need to develop Sweed, not turn to an old man.
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I wanted (still do) someone to push Sweed for the #3 spot. I hope I'm wrong and Sweed shows up this year, but not really confident based on what I've seen. Good move for the Pats.
 
They don't need Galloway to catch 60-80 balls. He is gonna be a 3rd receiver. 30-45 would be good enough. Excellent signing for the Pats.

 
You can't discount Galloway here. You can look at all these stats and forget that at one point he was, or was one of, the fastest players in the league. He's lost a step and is still fast. He also is good at the other facets of the game which separates him again. He is simply special. Injuries are the factor that decides how you value this move.

 
Chase Stuart said:
Galloway's one of the more fascinating players of our era, IMO. There are a bunch of reasons to think he's one of the most underrated players of all time. Ultimately, though, he'll be remembered as one of the biggest underachievers, I suspect. When you have the best statistical season of your career at age 34, that sort of says it all.
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Think about the QB's Galloway has played with during his career. Rick Mirer, John Friez, Jon Kitna and an old Warren Moon splitting time at QB. He was injured his first year in Dallas but then he played with Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright (Carter and Wright also split time at QB), Ryan Leaf, and Chad Hutchinson. In Tampa Bay it was Brian Griese, Brad Johnson, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski, and finally Jeff Garcia. As a matter of fact, he rarely played with the same QB for two years in a row! More often than not, there was a timeshare situation at QB. I suspect that may have something to do with his "underachiever" numbers. I'm interested to see what he can do with a QB like Brady.
 
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Moonlight_Graham said:
JSH21 said:
Damn...was hoping the Steelers would sign him to replace Washington.
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Why would you want that? They need to develop Sweed, not turn to an old man.
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Sorry, from what I've seen from Sweed last year I'm not confident at all with him as our #3 with no one at all to push him for that spot.
 
ninerfan said:
Chase Stuart said:
Galloway's one of the more fascinating players of our era, IMO. There are a bunch of reasons to think he's one of the most underrated players of all time. Ultimately, though, he'll be remembered as one of the biggest underachievers, I suspect. When you have the best statistical season of your career at age 34, that sort of says it all.
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Think about the QB's Galloway has played with during his career. Rick Mirer, John Friez, Jon Kitna and an old Warren Moon splitting time at QB. He was injured his first year in Dallas but then he played with Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright (Carter and Wright also split time at QB), Ryan Leaf, and Chad Hutchinson. In Tampa Bay it was Brian Griese, Brad Johnson, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski, and finally Jeff Garcia. As a matter of fact, he rarely played with the same QB for two years in a row! More often than not, there was a timeshare situation at QB. I suspect that may have something to do with his "underachiever" numbers. I'm interested to see what he can do with a QB like Brady.
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maybe, but he would be a heck of a lot more interesting if Moss and Welker were not in the picture.Also, wasn't something written recently that had the Pats planning a little more conservative/balanced approach on offense given (a) the Pats' vulnerability to the blitz pressure highlighted by the Giants and then replicated by other teams last year and (b) the additional need to protect Brady's knee. Between this idea, the competition at WR, his age and his health, I have little faith that Galloway will be anything more than a very ordinary 3rd WR and 4-5th WR on most FF teams in leagues with 10 or more teams. I think he would have had as much or more playing time and a greater chance at a SB with Pittsburgh (if in fact the Steelers even wanted him that much).

 
PhD said:
ninerfan said:
Chase Stuart said:
Galloway's one of the more fascinating players of our era, IMO. There are a bunch of reasons to think he's one of the most underrated players of all time. Ultimately, though, he'll be remembered as one of the biggest underachievers, I suspect. When you have the best statistical season of your career at age 34, that sort of says it all.
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Think about the QB's Galloway has played with during his career. Rick Mirer, John Friez, Jon Kitna and an old Warren Moon splitting time at QB. He was injured his first year in Dallas but then he played with Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright (Carter and Wright also split time at QB), Ryan Leaf, and Chad Hutchinson. In Tampa Bay it was Brian Griese, Brad Johnson, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski, and finally Jeff Garcia. As a matter of fact, he rarely played with the same QB for two years in a row! More often than not, there was a timeshare situation at QB. I suspect that may have something to do with his "underachiever" numbers. I'm interested to see what he can do with a QB like Brady.
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maybe, but he would be a heck of a lot more interesting if Moss and Welker were not in the picture.Also, wasn't something written recently that had the Pats planning a little more conservative/balanced approach on offense given (a) the Pats' vulnerability to the blitz pressure highlighted by the Giants and then replicated by other teams last year and (b) the additional need to protect Brady's knee. Between this idea, the competition at WR, his age and his health, I have little faith that Galloway will be anything more than a very ordinary 3rd WR and 4-5th WR on most FF teams in leagues with 10 or more teams. I think he would have had as much or more playing time and a greater chance at a SB with Pittsburgh (if in fact the Steelers even wanted him that much).
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I can't predict Galloway's numbers but if Galloway can be taken at his word that he feels healthier now than he has in the last 2 seasons then it raises the value of Moss and Brady for sure.
 
I like this signing. People can overanalyze stats of players age 35+, predict how many balls he will catch, etc. However, bottom line...he is better than Gaffney as their #3 WR.

 
The Pats are still very likely to draft a first day WR, so that will also take away some time on the field for Galloway. I would guess Galloway will put up Gaffney like numbers (ranking somewhere in the 60s).

 
are the Pats getting ready to throw the ball all over the field in 09 like they did in 07

Moss

Welker

Lewis

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This signing is more noteworthy for the name recognition than for what it means to the Patriots. As Chase mentioned, 38-year old receivers, even formerly great ones, just don't produce. I know the Pats have a way of getting production out of guys most couldn't, and I wouldn't discount Galloway from having a surprisingly strong year as a WR3/WR4 in their offense, but I think, to be fair, this is a minor ripple on the fantasy landscape.

For redrafters, Galloway probably ranks as a late end game pick in 12-team leagues [assuming of course nothing happens to Moss or Welker before draft time]. And for dynasty leaguers, I would think Galloway has almost no discernible value.

A 38-year old receiver has broke 200 yards receiving only nine times in NFL history, and five of those came from the G.O.A.T.

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1	Jerry Rice	wr	2002	40	18	16	92	1211	13.16	7	165.102	Jerry Rice	wr	2001	39	17	16	83	1139	13.72	9	167.903	Charlie Joiner	wr	1985	38	17	16	59	932	15.80	7	135.204	Jerry Rice	wr	2003	41	19	16	63	869	13.79	2	98.905	Jerry Rice	wr	2000	38	16	16	75	805	10.73	7	122.306	Irving Fryar	wr	2000	38	17	14	41	548	13.37	5	86.407	Charlie Joiner	wr	1986	39	18	15	34	440	12.94	2	56.008	Jerry Rice	wr	2004	42	20	17	30	429	14.30	3	60.909	Tim Brown	wr	2004	38	17	15	24	200	8.33	1	26.00
 
Jason Wood said:
This signing is more noteworthy for the name recognition than for what it means to the Patriots. As Chase mentioned, 38-year old receivers, even formerly great ones, just don't produce. I know the Pats have a way of getting production out of guys most couldn't, and I wouldn't discount Galloway from having a surprisingly strong year as a WR3/WR4 in their offense, but I think, to be fair, this is a minor ripple on the fantasy landscape.For redrafters, Galloway probably ranks as a late end game pick in 12-team leagues [assuming of course nothing happens to Moss or Welker before draft time]. And for dynasty leaguers, I would think Galloway has almost no discernible value. A 38-year old receiver has broke 200 yards receiving only nine times in NFL history, and five of those came from the G.O.A.T.

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1	Jerry Rice	wr	2002	40	18	16	92	1211	13.16	7	165.102	Jerry Rice	wr	2001	39	17	16	83	1139	13.72	9	167.903	Charlie Joiner	wr	1985	38	17	16	59	932	15.80	7	135.204	Jerry Rice	wr	2003	41	19	16	63	869	13.79	2	98.905	Jerry Rice	wr	2000	38	16	16	75	805	10.73	7	122.306	Irving Fryar	wr	2000	38	17	14	41	548	13.37	5	86.407	Charlie Joiner	wr	1986	39	18	15	34	440	12.94	2	56.008	Jerry Rice	wr	2004	42	20	17	30	429	14.30	3	60.909	Tim Brown	wr	2004	38	17	15	24	200	8.33	1	26.00
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while he's still 37 he can put up 500 yds, then after he turns 38 in december, or whatever, he puts up another 150 for a grand total of 650.
 
Jason Wood said:
This signing is more noteworthy for the name recognition than for what it means to the Patriots. As Chase mentioned, 38-year old receivers, even formerly great ones, just don't produce. I know the Pats have a way of getting production out of guys most couldn't, and I wouldn't discount Galloway from having a surprisingly strong year as a WR3/WR4 in their offense, but I think, to be fair, this is a minor ripple on the fantasy landscape.For redrafters, Galloway probably ranks as a late end game pick in 12-team leagues [assuming of course nothing happens to Moss or Welker before draft time]. And for dynasty leaguers, I would think Galloway has almost no discernible value. A 38-year old receiver has broke 200 yards receiving only nine times in NFL history, and five of those came from the G.O.A.T.

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1	Jerry Rice	wr	2002	40	18	16	92	1211	13.16	7	165.102	Jerry Rice	wr	2001	39	17	16	83	1139	13.72	9	167.903	Charlie Joiner	wr	1985	38	17	16	59	932	15.80	7	135.204	Jerry Rice	wr	2003	41	19	16	63	869	13.79	2	98.905	Jerry Rice	wr	2000	38	16	16	75	805	10.73	7	122.306	Irving Fryar	wr	2000	38	17	14	41	548	13.37	5	86.407	Charlie Joiner	wr	1986	39	18	15	34	440	12.94	2	56.008	Jerry Rice	wr	2004	42	20	17	30	429	14.30	3	60.909	Tim Brown	wr	2004	38	17	15	24	200	8.33	1	26.00
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He won't be 38 until the season is almost 3 months old.
 
Jason Wood said:
This signing is more noteworthy for the name recognition than for what it means to the Patriots. As Chase mentioned, 38-year old receivers, even formerly great ones, just don't produce. I know the Pats have a way of getting production out of guys most couldn't, and I wouldn't discount Galloway from having a surprisingly strong year as a WR3/WR4 in their offense, but I think, to be fair, this is a minor ripple on the fantasy landscape.For redrafters, Galloway probably ranks as a late end game pick in 12-team leagues [assuming of course nothing happens to Moss or Welker before draft time]. And for dynasty leaguers, I would think Galloway has almost no discernible value. A 38-year old receiver has broke 200 yards receiving only nine times in NFL history, and five of those came from the G.O.A.T.

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1	Jerry Rice	wr	2002	40	18	16	92	1211	13.16	7	165.102	Jerry Rice	wr	2001	39	17	16	83	1139	13.72	9	167.903	Charlie Joiner	wr	1985	38	17	16	59	932	15.80	7	135.204	Jerry Rice	wr	2003	41	19	16	63	869	13.79	2	98.905	Jerry Rice	wr	2000	38	16	16	75	805	10.73	7	122.306	Irving Fryar	wr	2000	38	17	14	41	548	13.37	5	86.407	Charlie Joiner	wr	1986	39	18	15	34	440	12.94	2	56.008	Jerry Rice	wr	2004	42	20	17	30	429	14.30	3	60.909	Tim Brown	wr	2004	38	17	15	24	200	8.33	1	26.00
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Couch Potato said:
Based on the rough assumptions below, for 2009 I put Galloway at about WR50 in redraft.

The following are stats for everyone over 20 catches in NE the last 3 years:

2008

Team = 339 catches

Moss + Welker = 180 catches

Faulk .... 58-486-3

Gaffney .... 38-468-2

Watson .... 22-209-2

2007

Team = 403 catches

Moss + Welker = 210 catches

Faulk .... 47-383-1

Stallworth .... 46-697-3

Gaffney .... 38-468-2

Watson .... 36-389-6

2006

Team = 326 catches

R Caldwell .... 61-760-4

Watson .... 49-643-3

T Brown .... 43-384-4

Faulk .... 43-356-2

Gabriel .... 25-344-3

Maroney .... 22-194-1

Graham .... 21-235-2

We all know that 2007 was a record setting year and can't be expected to be repeated. And in 2006 catches were very spread out because Brady really didn't have any go to receivers like he did once Moss and Welker arrived.

If I put team catches in the 350-375 range, give 190-200 of those to Moss and Welker, and 80 to Faulk and Watson, that leaves 80-95 for the rest. In 2008 WR3 Gaffney got 38/79=48% of the rest. In 2007 Stallworth got 46/110=42% of the rest, but the percentage would have been somewhat higher except that as the season went along Gaffney took more and more time away from Stallworth.

I'll go with 45-50% of the 80-95 catch leftovers for the WR3 in 2009. Using that, I'm looking at a guess of maybe 40 catches for Galloway for maybe 600 yards and 3-4 TDs. That's about 80 fantasy points and a fantasy ranking of about WR50 or so.

I know that's a lot of rough assumptions, but it's a ball park start.
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:lmao: Very fair and reasonable projections. Galloway helps the Pats more than he helps fantasy teams
 
Non factor. However, it does help for those games the pats are going to go out and go spread. Galloway is another player hard to cover one on one. SO now you go 4 wide with Moss/Welker/galloway and Lewis + their guy in the backfield and you'll need 9 players to cover them all...

Love the pats FO. While I do not believe this is a power signing, you have to love the idea that "we aren't just going to get one player to "hopefully" shore up a weak spot", we are going to get a bunch of players and see which one shores up that spot + add depth to keep that spot from further being an issue.

Miami will get there at some point, but Miami could have made similar moves to improve their WRs and DBs, but Parcells is in year 2 of a 3 to 4 year process.

 
Jason Wood said:
This signing is more noteworthy for the name recognition than for what it means to the Patriots. As Chase mentioned, 38-year old receivers, even formerly great ones, just don't produce. I know the Pats have a way of getting production out of guys most couldn't, and I wouldn't discount Galloway from having a surprisingly strong year as a WR3/WR4 in their offense, but I think, to be fair, this is a minor ripple on the fantasy landscape.For redrafters, Galloway probably ranks as a late end game pick in 12-team leagues [assuming of course nothing happens to Moss or Welker before draft time]. And for dynasty leaguers, I would think Galloway has almost no discernible value. A 38-year old receiver has broke 200 yards receiving only nine times in NFL history, and five of those came from the G.O.A.T.

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1	Jerry Rice	wr	2002	40	18	16	92	1211	13.16	7	165.102	Jerry Rice	wr	2001	39	17	16	83	1139	13.72	9	167.903	Charlie Joiner	wr	1985	38	17	16	59	932	15.80	7	135.204	Jerry Rice	wr	2003	41	19	16	63	869	13.79	2	98.905	Jerry Rice	wr	2000	38	16	16	75	805	10.73	7	122.306	Irving Fryar	wr	2000	38	17	14	41	548	13.37	5	86.407	Charlie Joiner	wr	1986	39	18	15	34	440	12.94	2	56.008	Jerry Rice	wr	2004	42	20	17	30	429	14.30	3	60.909	Tim Brown	wr	2004	38	17	15	24	200	8.33	1	26.00
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It is all well and good to look at age and say that players can't perform after a certain point.But if you dig a little deeper you see an athlete who still has deep speed that 1. keeps himself in tremendous shape2. has a top 2 QB throwing him the ball.3. has weapons like Welker and Watson to draw coverage underneath.4. has Randy Moss to draw the deep safety to the other side of the field.5. has a good running game to draw safeties in.6. has an offense that just 2 years ago put up record breaking numbers.7. has a head coach that likes to run up the score.Those are all possitive things. But add in that he will be playing in a division that hasn't played against him since 2005 and I see real possibilities. Now throw all of this out if he comes into training camp missing time due to muscle strains or whatever or if Brady limps in to the season but if the guys come in healthy Galloway will put up 500 yards 5 tds easily. That being said,I think the main benefactors will be Moss, Welker and Brady.
 
I don't think Galloway is much more than a role player, but honestly I find this analysis of 38 year old WR's pretty asinine. What would be far, far more relevant is information/analysis on Galloway himself, what people saw of him last year when he was on the field, and discussion about his injuries and how they might impact his ability to contribute this year.

I think some FBG employees get too caught up with numbers, and lose site of the fact that every player is unique, and running searches on the Historical Data Dominator is, by itself, not very useful or insightful.

 
Man a lot of Joey hate in here... especially from staff. Not too many players have ever had speed like Joey. One player who did was Darrell Green and he was still keeping up with the young WR's AFTER retirement.

 
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