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***Official 4th Pick Thread (1 Viewer)

cyoung590

cyoung590

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I was trying to search for this with no luck so I figured I'd start the topic

I have the fourth pick in our money league. So far it seems based on VBD that I am going RB/RB/WR. I've hit MJD, Turner, SJax it seems on a number of mocks and Portis is almost always there when I pick again. If I were to forgo Portis usually S. Smith is the best WR left at that time.

What strategies are you guys using in this spot?

My league is 6pts for all TDs with bonuses for good games and defenses score nice too, non PPR.

We can also trade draft picks and right now I'm trying to switch to late first position while picking up another 3rd round pick.

 
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Big Blue Wrecking Crew said:
:blackdot: As my draft (10 team) is a late one, just starting the research, but hoping there's some discussion generated soon.
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My draft is labor day nite w/ 12 teams. I received a trade offer for my 1rd (4) & 2nd rd(21) for a 1rd(2) & 3rd(26). The thing is the guy proposing trade is going for Brees. So the way I look at it I should get MJD or Turner w/out trade. My scoring setup is same as top post( 6pts for all td). First time w/ footballguys. Read alot of their articles. My question is at QB. What are we all thinking at the 4th pick? Perfect draft article kinda caught my eye. But all mock drafts I've seen has us selecting Mcnabb in 4th rd. But then that contradicts the article. So what's everyones plan of attack?
 
I have the 4th pick in both my leagues, a 10 teamer and 12. I'm probably going with Sjax in the 10 teamer. The 12 teamer has QB as a flex, meaning we can start 2...so I will be drafting Manning it appears, unless Brady or Brees slips.

 
I have the 9th overall pick in a 12 team .5 PPR with a FLEX, 3rd round reversal, so I'm with you guys from the third round on.

In mocks I'm liking my teams better waiting on QB, but I always do. Peyton does seem to be falling to the 3.4 in some drafts, and he is difficult to pass up here if your league allows 6 pts for pass TDs, especially if you're already managed to get a solid RB1 and WR1. If you started WR/WR or RB/RB you basically have to pass on Peyton even if he does fall here or your depth will be compromised big time.

If Peyton doesn't fall to me at the 3.4 I'll probably wait until the seventh or later for a QB. There are some really solid players falling to the 3.4, so I would keep my options open here and take value. Especially when you have to wait so long to get to the 4.9 pick.

The 4.9 and 5.4 picks are pretty much going to make or break my team. There are several players here that have a lot of upside as possible breakouts, veterans with solid fantasy seasons in the past, potential bounce back seasons, etc. Marshawn Lynch, Darren McFadden, Reggie Bush, Braylon Edwards, Knowshown Moreno, DeSean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, and the top tier tight ends are being taken here. You can also target QBs like Rivers, Romo, Warner, and McNabb. I think a lot of the guys around my pick in my league are thinking of taking their QB here, so I'll probably wait again and take the RB/WR that I have the highest on my board at these picks.

After five rounds it looks like I'll have either 3RB/2WR or 3WR/2RB, so at the 6.9 pick I'll take my highest rated player at the position of need to give me 3RB/3WR after six rounds, unless some serious value falls at QB or TE.

Best value QB/TE at the 7.4 and 8.9 picks and then value from there on. It seems like a good plan to me.

 
motormouth1308 said:
My draft is labor day nite w/ 12 teams. I received a trade offer for my 1rd (4) & 2nd rd(21) for a 1rd(2) & 3rd(26). The thing is the guy proposing trade is going for Brees. So the way I look at it I should get MJD or Turner w/out trade. My scoring setup is same as top post( 6pts for all td). First time w/ footballguys. Read alot of their articles. My question is at QB. What are we all thinking at the 4th pick? Perfect draft article kinda caught my eye. But all mock drafts I've seen has us selecting Mcnabb in 4th rd. But then that contradicts the article. So what's everyones plan of attack?
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I ended up trading my #4 pick for the #19 and #30, a plus 13% value for me. I think with this I am going to go WR/RB/WR/RB. I offered #30 and my fifth round pick for #13 (9% loss). If this goes I'll be at 13, 19, 21, 28, and 45 in the first 4 rounds. This will hopefully allow me to get Gore/Slaton and then WR/WR/RB/QB.What do you guys think of the #13 strategy? Should I try to package something to get back into the first?
 
cyoung590 said:
motormouth1308 said:
My draft is labor day nite w/ 12 teams. I received a trade offer for my 1rd (4) & 2nd rd(21) for a 1rd(2) & 3rd(26). The thing is the guy proposing trade is going for Brees. So the way I look at it I should get MJD or Turner w/out trade. My scoring setup is same as top post( 6pts for all td). First time w/ footballguys. Read alot of their articles. My question is at QB. What are we all thinking at the 4th pick? Perfect draft article kinda caught my eye. But all mock drafts I've seen has us selecting Mcnabb in 4th rd. But then that contradicts the article. So what's everyones plan of attack?
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I ended up trading my #4 pick for the #19 and #30, a plus 13% value for me. I think with this I am going to go WR/RB/WR/RB. I offered #30 and my fifth round pick for #13 (9% loss). If this goes I'll be at 13, 19, 21, 28, and 45 in the first 4 rounds. This will hopefully allow me to get Gore/Slaton and then WR/WR/RB/QB.What do you guys think of the #13 strategy? Should I try to package something to get back into the first?
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cyoung590- I'm trying to wrap my head around your trade. You traded your 1st rd(4) for the other guys 2nd rd(19) & 3rd round(30). Is that right? So he gets two 1st rd picks(4 & 6 overall picks).
 
motormouth1308 said:
cyoung590- I'm trying to wrap my head around your trade. You traded your 1st rd(4) for the other guys 2nd rd(19) & 3rd round(30). Is that right? So he gets two 1st rd picks(4 & 6 overall picks).
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Right. Risky maybe but it pretty much assures me of two solid RBs and two solid receivers. I offered #30 and #52 for #13 to give me a shot at Gore/SlatonSo far my mocks have netted me pretty consistantly: Portis/S SMith/T.O/R Grant/L Johnson/McNabb in the first 5 rounds. I've been able to handcuff Portis and pick up solid RB3 and WR3 at 6 and on.Last year through trades I was able to finish with MJD/S Jax/Fitz/Gore/Brees/Ravens as the core of my team and still got screwed in the playoffs. I think I'd rather have solid depth accross the board than having a top name that will more than likely get hurt. I just don't trust any of the top RBs I would choose.MJD was banged up last year with less carries whats more going to do to him?Turner imo will get less touches and finish below his preseason rank, Same with Forte imo.SJax screwed me last year and I would expect the same injury stuff this year.I'm not wasting a #4 pick on a QB or WR That top 10 RB turnover stat makes a lot of sense to me so I'll take a chance on some solid/emerging backs and solid WRs
 
I'll tell ya 4 is interesting this year... In PPR, I feel its pretty solid with MoJo, ADP, and Forte... but man I got issues with SJax, DWill, LT, Turner... its a tricky spot... I'm strongly considering going Andre... (over Fitz) since that leaves Boldin on the Board as an option in Rd 2... WR in the second, and rolling with Ronnie, Reggie, or Pierre in the third. I'm unsure that the RBs in the 4th are that much greater than those in the 5th/6th at this point (unless one falls to 4th I really like) and may consider TE or QB in 4th... and trying to get some Ced Bens or Leon, or Ray Rice or DBrown then...

again like I said its an interesting spot because I have never before considered taking a WR so early. But with all the dept and Committee at RB, and so much Late Value with RB... I am seriously wondering if this year, this spot merits this approach.

Any thoughts?

 
In a ppr Im seriously thinking of LT at 4. I think his demise is greatly exaggerated He is over the toe and groin injuries and eager to prove his doubters wrong. The Chargers are going to live in the redzone and LT is the guy in there.

Also toying with AJ or Fitz then coming back with RB in 2nd but LT is what I am thinking now.

 
E-A-G-L-E-S said:
In a ppr Im seriously thinking of LT at 4. I think his demise is greatly exaggerated He is over the toe and groin injuries and eager to prove his doubters wrong. The Chargers are going to live in the redzone and LT is the guy in there.Also toying with AJ or Fitz then coming back with RB in 2nd but LT is what I am thinking now.
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I went with Fitz in a couple of mocks, ended up with 1. fitz 2. reggie wayne 3.Pierre 4. gates 5. D. Ward , Then I took as many rb's as possible
 
definitely an interesting pick this year.. here's some thought in a 12 team league.

i think fitz is definitely the safest player among the group of: fitzgerald/turner/forte which seems to be who we'll be picking from.

however, if you start with fitz i think you're a bit less flexible than if you go RB. there aren't many RBs i like at 2.09 or 3.04.

so you start:

1.04 - fitz

2.09 - steve smith/wayne/roddy etc

what happens at 3.04 if pierre thomas is gone? do you really want to roll with ronnie brown/ryan grant/kevin smith as your RB1? the play then is probably QB (manning/rivers/rodgers) or WR (TO/dbowe/welker/housh).

you'll really have to do a great job drafting from here on out to work out the question marks at RB.

on the other hand if you start:

1.04 - forte/turner/etc

2.09 - steve smith/wayne/roddy

3.04 - this pick is wide open, if pierre is there you can grab him or go QB or WR depending on who you like.

granted forte or turner may not produce like fitz will, but i'm having a hard time figuring out what to do at RB if i run into a worst case scenario at picks 2 and 3 and come away without an RB.

 
Soggy Bottom Boys said:
I have the #4 pick ..I know the first 3 picks will be AP, MJD & Forte. Do I go SJax, LT or Turner?Thank you!
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PPR? If not, then I'd go Turner. He has the least wear and tear (despite the 370 touches last year), his team should only be improved from last year, and of the three had the best numbers last year. Personally, I think SJax has the best talent but his team is awful and injuries always seem to hurt him - personally I think he gets taken too early every year. You gotta love LT, but you know one of these years his production is going to starkly fall off and with Sproles showing last year he can fill in just fine the team may be quick to cut LT's touches. If it's a full PPR though I really have all the guys valued about the same. I think banking on receptions is more of a sure thing than touchdowns, making LT my pick (with a gun to my head).ETA: I'd also strongly be considering Fitz in a ppr too with turner slightly devalued. I really like Turner if it's not PPR though.
 
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definitely an interesting pick this year.. here's some thought in a 12 team league.i think fitz is definitely the safest player among the group of: fitzgerald/turner/forte which seems to be who we'll be picking from.however, if you start with fitz i think you're a bit less flexible than if you go RB. there aren't many RBs i like at 2.09 or 3.04.so you start:1.04 - fitz2.09 - steve smith/wayne/roddy etcwhat happens at 3.04 if pierre thomas is gone? do you really want to roll with ronnie brown/ryan grant/kevin smith as your RB1? the play then is probably QB (manning/rivers/rodgers) or WR (TO/dbowe/welker/housh).you'll really have to do a great job drafting from here on out to work out the question marks at RB.on the other hand if you start:1.04 - forte/turner/etc2.09 - steve smith/wayne/roddy3.04 - this pick is wide open, if pierre is there you can grab him or go QB or WR depending on who you like.granted forte or turner may not produce like fitz will, but i'm having a hard time figuring out what to do at RB if i run into a worst case scenario at picks 2 and 3 and come away without an RB.
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There is a problem if you go wr-wr, not sitting too bad if Pierre is ,but I've mocked it out over 10 times and the one time Pierre went before I could get him, I ended up like this 1. Fitz 2. Jennings 3.MBIII 4.Rivers 5. Moreno. I started chasing rb's the rest of the draft. It is worst case scenerio.
 
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There is a problem if you go wr-wr, not sitting too bad if Pierre is ,but I've mocked it out over 10 times and the one time Pierre went before I could get him, I ended up like this 1. Fitz 2. Jennings 3.MBIII 4.Rivers 5. Moreno. I started chasing rb's the rest of the draft. It is worst case scenerio.
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the core of fitz/jennings/rivers would be intriguing.. i think you could compete with them if you got decent RB production.the question is would you prefer to start with something like this:1.04 turner2.09 jennings3.04 TO (or whoever you prefer at WR at 3.04)i think that's a safer lineup, although the swing for the fences potential of WR/WR may be a bit better.
 
I agree. I think I go with someone like Turner then Jennings. I just dont feel good about fishing for RB's in the later rounds. RB's always seem to be huge in our league. Thanks for the help!

So you thik turner over LT? I love me some LT, but worried about Sproles getting too many touches.

 
Carver said:
Why not Steve Slaton? :goodposting:
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turner seems the safer pick to me.. i think you can pencil him in for 1500 yards, and while slaton could very well beat him in total yards, i don't think he comes close to turners potential for scoring TDs.
 
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Carver said:
Why not Steve Slaton? :goodposting:
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turner seems the safer pick to me.. i think you can pencil him in for 1500 yards, and while slaton could very well beat him in total yards, i don't think he comes close to turners potential for scoring TDs.
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Oh no. Sorry man I should have been more clear. Im assuming Turner is gone by 4.1. I have AD/Turner as my clear 1/2. After that, I start seriously considering Slaton. I just think he is in store for a monster season.
 
Carver said:
Oh no. Sorry man I should have been more clear. Im assuming Turner is gone by 4.1. I have AD/Turner as my clear 1/2. After that, I start seriously considering Slaton. I just think he is in store for a monster season.
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ahh.. if turner is gone i would definitely agree slaton is in the argument.. in PPR i think slaton and even LT both deserve serious consideration.
 
Soggy Bottom Boys said:
I agree. I think I go with someone like Turner then Jennings. I just dont feel good about fishing for RB's in the later rounds. RB's always seem to be huge in our league. Thanks for the help!So you thik turner over LT? I love me some LT, but worried about Sproles getting too many touches.
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Sproles wont see anything around the GL will he? At 4 I'm reallly not liking turner or Forte. Debating Jackson whoes a stud on a horrible team and is always dinged or reach on LT in a high powered offense and hope for the best.
 
GoBirds said:
Soggy Bottom Boys said:
I agree. I think I go with someone like Turner then Jennings. I just dont feel good about fishing for RB's in the later rounds. RB's always seem to be huge in our league. Thanks for the help!So you thik turner over LT? I love me some LT, but worried about Sproles getting too many touches.
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Sproles wont see anything around the GL will he? At 4 I'm reallly not liking turner or Forte. Debating Jackson whoes a stud on a horrible team and is always dinged or reach on LT in a high powered offense and hope for the best.
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Here's why I don't think it's even close between LT and Jackson. For argument's sake, let's assume that LT and Jackson are both prone to some injury risk - LT b/c he's 30 years old and Jackson b/c he gets hurt every year. So that's a push.But the clear difference is that LT plays on what is going to be a high powered offense while Jackson is going to play in a terrible offense. And here's where the difference is critical:Everyone worries about LT having to share carries with Sproles. And that's a legit concern. But one area where we KNOW that LT won't be losing carries to Sproles is at the goalline and, for the most part, in the redzone.And LT is going to get a lot of opportunities. And Jackson is not.It's not close between LT and Jackson. If the Rams were a half way decent team, maybe. But not when the Chargers offense is looking like it's looking and the Rams offense is looking like it's looking.
 
Horsec said:
I'll tell ya 4 is interesting this year... In PPR, I feel its pretty solid with MoJo, ADP, and Forte... but man I got issues with SJax, DWill, LT, Turner... its a tricky spot... I'm strongly considering going Andre... (over Fitz) since that leaves Boldin on the Board as an option in Rd 2... WR in the second, and rolling with Ronnie, Reggie, or Pierre in the third. I'm unsure that the RBs in the 4th are that much greater than those in the 5th/6th at this point (unless one falls to 4th I really like) and may consider TE or QB in 4th... and trying to get some Ced Bens or Leon, or Ray Rice or DBrown then... again like I said its an interesting spot because I have never before considered taking a WR so early. But with all the dept and Committee at RB, and so much Late Value with RB... I am seriously wondering if this year, this spot merits this approach. Any thoughts?
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Great post! I've also got the 4th pick and was thinking about going with wr,wr for my first two picks. I was leaning towards fitz for my first pick, but I like your strategy of taking andre and then hoping for boldin. I don't think there is much difference from boldin and fitz, so I might give this strategy a try.
 
fochs13 said:
Horsec said:
I'll tell ya 4 is interesting this year... In PPR, I feel its pretty solid with MoJo, ADP, and Forte... but man I got issues with SJax, DWill, LT, Turner... its a tricky spot... I'm strongly considering going Andre... (over Fitz) since that leaves Boldin on the Board as an option in Rd 2... WR in the second, and rolling with Ronnie, Reggie, or Pierre in the third. I'm unsure that the RBs in the 4th are that much greater than those in the 5th/6th at this point (unless one falls to 4th I really like) and may consider TE or QB in 4th... and trying to get some Ced Bens or Leon, or Ray Rice or DBrown then... again like I said its an interesting spot because I have never before considered taking a WR so early. But with all the dept and Committee at RB, and so much Late Value with RB... I am seriously wondering if this year, this spot merits this approach. Any thoughts?
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Great post! I've also got the 4th pick and was thinking about going with wr,wr for my first two picks. I was leaning towards fitz for my first pick, but I like your strategy of taking andre and then hoping for boldin. I don't think there is much difference from boldin and fitz, so I might give this strategy a try.
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I think there's a HUGE difference between Fitz and Boldin. First, Fitz gets more targets. Second, he'll produce EVEN IF/WHEN Warner goes down. Anything within 4 yards of him is his, and he has much better hands. Not to mention Boldin's whiny attitude at times. Don't get me wrong, I think Boldin's really good, but won't come close to Fitz in terms of catches, YAC, or TD's. If you look at last year, take away 2 crazy games and he's good, but nothing all that great.A. Johnson is a safer pick than Fitz, if you worry about Warner being able to find magic in a bottle like last year. I also think that many will overvalue Boldin and he won't even be there in the 2nd round, which is even crazier to me.
 
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Would anyone reach for Moss 4th?
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I've been thinking of this as well.Right now I'm thinking of LT at 4 and maybe Jennings at 19 (traded for) and then maybe PThomas, Grant, or WR in 3rd.But Moss then Jennings followed by PThomas or Grant is looking nice to me too especially if I can go45: Larry Johnson52: McNaab67: Ray Rice (traded)69: C BensonMy only concern is that WRs seem to score in bunches and not real consistantly game to game.
 
baldwonder said:
fochs13 said:
Horsec said:
I'll tell ya 4 is interesting this year... In PPR, I feel its pretty solid with MoJo, ADP, and Forte... but man I got issues with SJax, DWill, LT, Turner... its a tricky spot... I'm strongly considering going Andre... (over Fitz) since that leaves Boldin on the Board as an option in Rd 2... WR in the second, and rolling with Ronnie, Reggie, or Pierre in the third. I'm unsure that the RBs in the 4th are that much greater than those in the 5th/6th at this point (unless one falls to 4th I really like) and may consider TE or QB in 4th... and trying to get some Ced Bens or Leon, or Ray Rice or DBrown then... again like I said its an interesting spot because I have never before considered taking a WR so early. But with all the dept and Committee at RB, and so much Late Value with RB... I am seriously wondering if this year, this spot merits this approach. Any thoughts?
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Great post! I've also got the 4th pick and was thinking about going with wr,wr for my first two picks. I was leaning towards fitz for my first pick, but I like your strategy of taking andre and then hoping for boldin. I don't think there is much difference from boldin and fitz, so I might give this strategy a try.
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I think there's a HUGE difference between Fitz and Boldin. First, Fitz gets more targets. Second, he'll produce EVEN IF/WHEN Warner goes down. Anything within 4 yards of him is his, and he has much better hands. Not to mention Boldin's whiny attitude at times. Don't get me wrong, I think Boldin's really good, but won't come close to Fitz in terms of catches, YAC, or TD's. If you look at last year, take away 2 crazy games and he's good, but nothing all that great.A. Johnson is a safer pick than Fitz, if you worry about Warner being able to find magic in a bottle like last year. I also think that many will overvalue Boldin and he won't even be there in the 2nd round, which is even crazier to me.
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There's definitely a big difference between Fitz and Boldin. But if you take Fitz at 4, your not going to want Boldin as your WR2. Taking Moss or Johnson instead of Fitz at 4 opens up the possibility of getting Boldin in the 2nd. I'm liking this alot. What do folks think of taking it further, going QB/WR or WR/QB in the 3rd/4th. This gives something like Moss/Boldin with Manning/Rodgers + Marshall/Edwards/Royal as WR3, or Colston/Owens/Bowe as your WR3 with McNabb/Romo/Rivers. Then start picking off the mid tier RBs with upside in the next few rounds (Moreno, Mcfadden, Lynch, Rice, Addai, Brown etc). With 5 of the top 10 and 9 of the top 20 being taken after round 4 last year, and alot of interesting RBs in rounds 4-10 this year, this is an intruiging idea to me.
 
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Would anyone reach for Moss 4th?
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i have both AJ and moss over fitz this year so i've considered it. i've been working on it for awhile now and the only RB i'm willing to take at 4 is LT. i have LT projected at last seasons stats, which i believe is his floor, and it puts him slightly over AJ/moss in total points (league is .5 ppr).in terms of projected total points from starters (QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 WR/RB) it plays out like this for me, with some commentary:1) WR/WR/RBhighest risk/reward of the group - if P. Thomas/R. Brown/K. Smith/<insert your other favorite 3rd round RB> pans out and your midround RB2 hits this team is dominant IMO.2) WR/RB/RB or RB/RB/WRthere aren't many RBs that fall around the 2.09 range - if someone slips in your draft from their ADP this may work great for you, otherwise you will probably have to look elsewhere. 3) RB/WR/RBthis looks like a safe, solid team. will it have enough to win you a championship? probably not unless LT goes crazy, but it looks playoff bound.4) RB/WR/WRthis all hinges on what WRs are there at 3.04 and how you have them projected. this team looks very average to me.i think you're going to have to do something special out of the 4 hole to win a championship this year. WR/WR should give you a decisive advantage over anyone else at WR - i don't think you can gain an advantage on anyone by starting RB/WR or WR/RB, if you luck out with RB/RB perhaps.
 
cyoung590 said:
GoBirds said:
Would anyone reach for Moss 4th?
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I've been thinking of this as well.Right now I'm thinking of LT at 4 and maybe Jennings at 19 (traded for) and then maybe PThomas, Grant, or WR in 3rd.But Moss then Jennings followed by PThomas or Grant is looking nice to me too especially if I can go45: Larry Johnson52: McNaab67: Ray Rice (traded)69: C BensonMy only concern is that WRs seem to score in bunches and not real consistantly game to game.
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I did a mock last night and after Moss ended up with Barber, Ronnie Brown, and Reggie Bush. My league always goes RB early so it probably won't pan out that way. I think Moss then RB's til McNabb in 5th or go QB late and stockpile RB's, or go all in and take Brady in 2nd if there.I just don't see Forte, Turner or MJG as a gurantee to outproduce Moss. Does Moss lose looks this year with Galloway?
 
I draw for draft position tomorrow, but I really think the 4 spot is the place to be. Personally, at 1.04, I REALLY like DWill. He is getting no love, but with Stuart being his gimpy self, that O-Line, Delhomme with confidence issues, S. Smith banged up, etc...DWill is going to carry the load. To me, he looked quick as ever in the first preseason game. His ADP is a little lower, I believe, but I would probably need to be hear to grab in in my draft.

At 2.09 and 3.04, go G Jennings / R White...then maybe grab Rivers / Rodgers/ McFadden / T Jones in the 4th.

I'm in a 12 team, redraft, 6 pt TD (4 pt pass TD), PPR after 7 receptions league.

I won my league last year drafting from the 12 spot based largely on my picks in the 9th / 10th turn of C Johnson and Dwill so I guess I am a little biased...but I think the approach outlined above makes sense this year.

Thoughts?

 
Our league has 4pt passing td's, 6pt for the rest. We start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, RB/WR, TE, K, D.

Which RB do you guys like at 4? I really have doubts about Forte. Jackson's team sucks. Reach for LT? I am really leaning towards taking Fitz/Moss at 4 then loading up on RB's the next 3-4 rounds. I don't see value taking a TE until the end and with our point structure might not go QB until 6-9 range. I need some input. RB's are a premium in our league but i will be lucky to get a Greg Jennings at my spot in round 2.

 
for a 12 team non-ppr-

For taking the best/lowest risk available player your choice of Moss/Fitz/AJ would be best. During the playoffs last yr. I though Fitz looked like the best player in football.

For taking what the draft best bears for the #4 spot, I think whomever your preference of a RB is works best.

I don't see a RB that gets me excited on the way back at #21; It looks like Portis or Barber head the talent left (neither of which I like). However, you'll have your pick of a few guys that are certain #1 WR's albeit outside of the elite tier; Jennings, White, SSmith, Boldin, Wayne, Colston are all guys likely to be there (all of which I like).

The 3rd round, pick #28, looks to be a toss-up for good RB vs. WR's. Maybe one of the WR's I mentioned could slip here, or Ronnie Brown/Ryan Grant/Pierre Thomas all make nice RB2's.

 
I wouldn't take it for granted that Jennings and/or Wayne will be there at 2.09 in a 12 teamer.

They've been going anywhere between 2.01 and 2.07 in the majority of mocks I've been in this month leaving me with Smitty, Colston, or Boldin at WR.

My latest:

1.04: Fitz

2.09: Westy (Wayne, Jennings, and even Colston gone yet he drops...Roddy,Bowe and T.O. available here)

3.04: Pierre

4.09: A. Gonzales

5.04: Moreno (been able to get him a round later lately and could probably still get him at the 5-6 turn)

 
Right. I didn't mean they'd all be there. Rather, that at least one would be there. For the most part, they're all interchangeable to me. I'd take Roddy there with no qualms. That being said, you did well w/ Fitz & Westy. That's about as good of a WR/RB combo as you could hope for from the 4 slot.

 
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With every missed practice by Stewart, DeAngelo Williams climbs my board. I am now looking at him at #4 in my 10-team non-PPR league.

Coming back at 17, I plan to take a WR (Jennings, White, Smith) and then best on board at 24 (wouldn't be surprised to see Westbrook or Pierre Thomas there).

 
At the #4 spot I have it down to two people now, Tom Brady or DeAngelo Williams (assuming MJD goes in the top 3). This is a very QB friendly scoring system so QB makes a lot of sense. But DWill is really making me reconsider. I would love to have a my draft unfold something like this....

1. Brady

2. Jennings/Smith/Wayne

3. R. Brown/K. Smith/P. Thomas

4. R. Grant/D. McFadden/M. Lynch

5. Ocho Cinco

6. Royal

7. RB

8. RB

9. WR

10. TE (Miller, Carlson, Keller)

etc.

Thoughts on that general strategy?

 
12 team non-ppr with standard scoring here. I think the #4 pick is THE PLACE TO BE in this year's draft. You get AP, MJD, DWill, or Turner. I formerly did not include Dwill in this group, but based on the chatter of his increased workload I think he belongs at least at the #4 spot. I am very happy starting my team with any of these guys.

My league is traditionally very RB heavy, especially in rounds 1-3, so in the 2nd I'm looking for one of Fitz/Moss/AJ/CJ (likely that one of the four will drop). In round 3 I'm looking for Wayne/SSmith/White/Boldin rather than reaching for the scraps that are left at RB (guys like Grant/KSmith/PThomas will probably be gone). From this point on, there is usually a big WR run, so the RBs that are left aren't going to fly off the board and I can wait on Parker, Ward, LJ, TJones, and possibly Moreno/DMC in rounds 4-5.

If this projection holds fairly true, I'll have something like DWill, Megatron, Steve Smith, Ward, LJ after five rounds, and can grab a Rivers/Palmer/Schaub in round 6.

 
12 team League

NON PPR

6 Pts for all TDs

1 pt for every 20 yards passing

.1 point for every yard RB/WR/TE

I have the #4 pick...

Assuming that...

1) AP

2) MJD

3) Turner

4)??????

If I go RB, I would take Deangelo Williams....But also thinking I could take a QB with Brady or BRees? Thoughts?

Also, if someone else takes a QB or something before me, do I take one of the above mentioned in place of DWilliams?

 
Mister_S said:
12 team LeagueNON PPR6 Pts for all TDs1 pt for every 20 yards passing.1 point for every yard RB/WR/TEI have the #4 pick...Assuming that...1) AP2) MJD3) Turner4)??????If I go RB, I would take Deangelo Williams....But also thinking I could take a QB with Brady or BRees? Thoughts? Also, if someone else takes a QB or something before me, do I take one of the above mentioned in place of DWilliams?
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If you go deangelo do you also waste a 6th on Stewart for insurance? Or settle for Forte knowing you can get K Jones in the last round as insurance?
 
In a 12 team ppr, I'm seriously considering moss. I have him at wr1, and the backs here all have a red flag (LT2 age, SJax - team, DeAngelo/Turner - lack of rec). Still have a week, but were I under the gun right now, I take Moss.

 
JB Breakfast Club said:
With every missed practice by Stewart, DeAngelo Williams climbs my board. I am now looking at him at #4 in my 10-team non-PPR league.
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12 team pprThis is messing with me too. If I can pencil Stewart out of the picture Deangelo is a no-brainer for me. I was starting to lean towards Forte, but I don't think Cutler likes to throw to RBs. Please correct me if I am wrong on that. If Portis is there at 2.9 I take him in a heartbeat. If he is gone I might wait for a RB until the 4th or 5th. I am not big on Pierre. I do like Ronnie though. ...but the more I look at mocks (starting pretty late this year), the more I don't like the WRs that are around by 4.9 I would much rather have 2 WRs by then and hope I can load up on RBs like Smith, LJ, Moreno, Reggie, and T.Jones. I also love how late I can grab M.Bush.
 
14-team PPR, and my draft is tomorrow.

My hunch is it'll go AP/MJD/Forte, in which case I'm stuck on SJax, DWill, Turner or LT.

There's been a lot of SJax bashing, but in a PPR, it's looking more like he's the best option. Too many red flags with LT's age, despite the superior team, and although DWill is tempting, the lack of catches worries me. Same with Turner.

I could go out on a limb and go WR, but RBs get snapped up in this league, and I'd hate the prospect of looking at LJ, Smith or Grant as my RB1.

 
The Real Hipster Doofus said:
At the #4 spot I have it down to two people now, Tom Brady or DeAngelo Williams (assuming MJD goes in the top 3). This is a very QB friendly scoring system so QB makes a lot of sense. But DWill is really making me reconsider. I would love to have a my draft unfold something like this....1. Brady2. Jennings/Smith/Wayne3. R. Brown/K. Smith/P. Thomas4. R. Grant/D. McFadden/M. Lynch5. Ocho Cinco6. Royal7. RB8. RB9. WR10. TE (Miller, Carlson, Keller)etc.Thoughts on that general strategy?
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Absolutely ZERO chance that you get Ryan Grant in the 4th round. And very unlikely you see McFadden that late in the 4th either. Lynch will be there for you though.
 
Had my 14-team PPR draft tonight. Was figuring I'd go RB/WR/WR/RB, and that's how it worked out.

As I suspected, the WRs dominated the first round (Brees was the only non-RB taken), and WRs dominated the second. In all, I like my WR depth (Smith/White/Gonzalez/Ginn), and with a couple of breaks, could be pretty deep at RB.

1.4: Forte (behind ADP/Drew/DWill)

2.11: S. Smith

3.4: R. White (Debated between him, Grant or P.Thomas, but didn't like the droppoff at WR after that)

4.11: R. Rice (took him instead of LJ and Bush; we'll see how this works out. But I love his upside)

5.4: A. Gonzalez

6.11: Palmer

7.4: L. Washington

8.11: Chester Taylor

9.4: Ginn

10.11: Trent Edwards

11.4: Laurent Robinson (may have reached here, but Avery's injury may linger)

12.11: Betts (legit third-down back, and who knows if this is the year Portis breaks down?)

13.4: Keller

14.11: Bears D

15.4: James Davis (same logic as Betts )

16.11: Vinatieri

 
If current ADPs hold up, in a 12-teamer, you could get Colston, Ocho and Braylon in Rds 3-5. All of these guys look like they're back to form and pushing to get back in the top 10. That affords you the opportunity to get stud RBs in the first 2 rounds, and your core is stacked.

 
10 team league, standard scoring with 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D. Went in with a plan of RB in 1st, WR in 2nd (unless Slaton or comparable RB slipped), then best player for next 3-4 rounds (1 more WR then probably the other picks RB for these picks). Did tons of mocks and was convinced I was getting Forte, Wayne, then Colston.

At draft, RBs went early and often, nothing like the mocks. Any way, this is how it turned out:

1-MJD fell to me

2-Moss fell to me

3-Colston

4-P Thomas

5-Rice

6-at this point, I dont remember who I got, but rest of team was: McNabb, Schaub, Royal, Driver, Henry, Stewart, Norwood, Sproles, kickers, and defenses

At this spot, the value seems to be RB, WR, WR, then load up on RBs unless a WR slips to you that you have to have. Drafting a QB in the first 4-5 rounds always destroyed my team in mocks, so Brady, Brees, etc was out of the question for me.

 
Just had my 12-team 0.5PPR draft this morning. It shook out kinda odd, tbh, but all-in-all, I'm happy with it. I had every intention of going RB-WR-WR, but well...would you pass on my 2nd rounder?

1/2/3/1/1/1 No flex

4pt pass TD

6pt run/rec TD

0.5 PPR

20/1 passing

10/1 rush/rec

1-Forte (MJD, Tuner, ADP in that order ahead of me)

2- Brady (Brees still on board, too, but went Brady)

3- Grant (Portis went the pick infront grr)

4- K. Smith (planned on Ocho here but man, he was the last solid RB on the board and a lot of guys were short at RB, so took a shot here)

5-Braylon Edwards (Best left on the board...praying he remembers 2007)

6-Ray Rice (you're kidding me he fell?!?)

7-Cooley (I feel like I made a mistake here...Driver and Hixon both still available and went w/ the next two picks)

8-Hester

9-Ginn

10- Henry

11-Philly D

12- Gage

13- Hasselbeck

14 - Coffee

15-Kaeding

16- Bess

A little weaker at WR, but with 0.5 PPR, I thought I could take the risk and load up and be super deep at RB and hope 1 or 2 WR's pan out.

 
I just had my draft for my 10 team redraft PPR league. Luckily MJD fell to me at 4 and the rest of the draft really was strange. I wound up with good value at just about every pick.

1 Jones-Drew

2 Tomlinson

3 Frank Gore

4 Roddy White

5 Ocho Cinco

6 Antonio Gates

7 Ray Rice

8 Donovan McNabb

9 Santonio Holmes

10 Derrick Ward

11 Leon Washington

12 Santana Moss

13 David Garrard

14 Bears D

15 Kaeding

I was planning on drafting RB-WR-WR/RB, but couldn't pass on Tomlinson and was shocked when Gore fell into the 3rd round.

 
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