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TREND or MIRAGE: MATT SCHAUB (NEW) poll available (1 Viewer)

Schaub will rank as ...... (if uninjured)

  • The #1 FP Scoring qb by yrs end.

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  • a top 3 FP Scoring qb by yrs end.

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  • a top 5 FP Scoring qb by yrs end.

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  • a top 7 FP Scoring qb by yrs end.

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Granted the Jets made him look silly, Schaub play since then been pretty impressive.

Also had a 4th qtr TD called back on a iffy call by the ref's.

What you guys say? Trend or Mirage

 
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Schaub's a good QB when he can stay healthy, but that's usually his setback. The Jets defense is making everyone look pedestrian, he'll do fine this year and put up good numbers. With arguably the best WR in the game along with some fine weapons spread around there's no reason he can't succeed as long as he's healthy.

 
Good to great WR corps? Check

Terrible defense that will keep the other team in virtually every game? Check

Suspect running game? Check

Good offensive mind calling the plays? Check

The only thing that will keep this guy from continuing the trend, IMO, is an injury to him or Andre Johnson.

 
I say trend. I don't think his numbers will remain that high. In my main scoring system Schaub has always been top 5 in ppg, his only problem has always been his health. As an AJ owner I wish he had a stronger arm though.

 
Granted the Jest made him look silly, Schaub play since then been pretty impressive. Also had a 4th qtr TD called back on a iffy call by the ref's. What you guys say? Trend or Mirage
Trend. The Texans defense isn't good, and he will need to throw alot. He has good targets to throw to, also.
 
Health is really the only question.

None of his prior injuries seem to be chronic, just random nicks that could happen to any NFL QB on any given play.

I'll say trend.

 
So far hes killed against 2 boo boo defenses....the defense is always gonna give up points so expect Hou to keep airing it out.

 
If you look at how he has been injured, I wouldn't exactly say he is frail. He took some cheap shots, at his knees.

 
The health issue is and continues to be way overstated. Remember, folks, the odds of Schaub staying healthy improved greatly when Fat Al signed his fat contract with the Redskins.

 
Trend. As long as Jared Allen doesn't cheap shot him again, he's top-5 for the year.

I have Schaub in both my leagues & the only QBs I'd trade him for are Brees & Peyton. He has replaced Rivers on 1 of my teams.

 
Trend. He was one of the most accurate QBs in college football history, and he's always put up good numbers in the pros when healthy. As long as he stays upright, he's fine for fantasy purposes.

Like Tony Romo, though, I need to see more under pressure before I deem him fine for real football purposes.

 
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After Week One weren't people suggesting he was a bust?
People say lots of dumb things after week one. So far this year, Schaub's averaging almost exactly the same ypg total as he averaged last year. His TD% is way up and is almost certain to regress, but I don't think it's out of the question for it to settle in around 5% on the season, especially given how poor his RBs have looked. 5% TD rate would mean 28 TDs on the season, which seems eminently reasonable.
OK another Quick Question within the THREAD:

What all QB's as of now would your prefer as your QB1 over Schaub?
Brees, Manning, Brady. Probably Rivers, although it's pretty close. I'd take Schaub over Rogers, especially with how bad GB's OLine has been this year.
 
WOW, good thread, im a Texan homer but a big misbeliever on Schaub. He does do quiet a few things well though.
From a fantasy perspective I think schuab is a stat collector, so he is a guy i generally want him on FF teams as long as I remember to have a better back-up than when I have one of the 1st level guys. From a real NFL perspective he really reminds of Matt H. out in Seattle, not just from style of play, but as a guy who on his good days is just below elite. The problem is that he has enough bad days, missed plays , etc where you he is definately not 1st cut player, and probably not a 2nd cut guy, but a legitimate NFL starter (when healthy). If the rest of my team is above average overall, he can do some things in the playoffs, but if it is not, Schaub can't push them to another level.
 
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Trend.

Probably Top 5 fantasy QB this year if he remains healthy.

Would only take Manning,Brady and Brees over in dynasty. Have him ranked next to Rivers. Have Rodgers ranked right below due to line & weather factor. [latter factor means more to me than line -- which can be corrected]

 
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Trend. His injury issue should always be a concern, but as someone pointed out earlier, there were a couple of cheap shots hes dealt with, not exactly "turf toe" or "tennis elbow". And he seems to bounce back relatively quick after missing time. I think he is tougher than he is givin credit for. Without question he is top 5 material. Wish I had him on my team. D@mmit

 
Trend. Schaub is a stud. ESPN.com has this cool player card page with projections for the year based on his performance so far.... pretty crazy numbers:

368/571 for 4389 yards and 37 TDs.

haha obviously that will come down, but 4000 and 30TDs is within his talent if he stays healthy for the year.

In most leagues, I targeted either Schaub or Rodgers. It looks like Schaub may have been the better choice all around, not just the better value.

 
Trend. Schaub is a stud. ESPN.com has this cool player card page with projections for the year based on his performance so far.... pretty crazy numbers:368/571 for 4389 yards and 37 TDs. haha obviously that will come down, but 4000 and 30TDs is within his talent if he stays healthy for the year.In most leagues, I targeted either Schaub or Rodgers. It looks like Schaub may have been the better choice all around, not just the better value.
What Karma said. ditto.Glad I own him :deadhorse:
 
Trend...and w/ Kevin Walter back, this offense just got more potent, IMO. It gives Schaub another trusted receiver for when AJ is getting extra attention

 
So far hes killed against 2 boo boo defenses....the defense is always gonna give up points so expect Hou to keep airing it out.
and he plays those same boo-boo defenses again later on this season.:football:the guy is a s-t-u-d ..this is definitely a trend, he's been a great QB the past two seasons, despite the injuries he's posted phenominal numbers..
 
WTF is Andre Johnson even suited up for when he gets zero balls thrown to him in the 2nd half. This coaching staff is clueless. If Schaub was a real man, he would ####can the called play, draw something up in his head and tell Andre it was coming his way.

 
WTF is Andre Johnson even suited up for when he gets zero balls thrown to him in the 2nd half. This coaching staff is clueless. If Schaub was a real man, he would ####can the called play, draw something up in his head and tell Andre it was coming his way.
Thus says an Andre Johnson owner. :unsure:
 
ABSOLUTE TREND.

Great pass schedule this year, has the weapons on offense, and a terrible defense. This offense has been coming together now for 2-3 years.

 
To answer who I'd rather have:

Brees

P Manning

Rivers Rodgers Schaub Brady are all in about the same tier fo rme, except when Brady gets back into rhythm he'll move into the same P Manning area.

And I have Schaub at the top of that tier. His biggest problem this season will be, does he produce against Indy? They do have, in spite of their terrible rush D, a pretty good passing defense. Ten and Jax again though should be big games, he still has all of the NFC West games, the Pats have been giving up big pass plays with their inexperienced secondary, Buffalo has had a terrible pass D thus far, and Miami is a bit of a wild card.

 
stud. 3-0 and my whole FF season hinges on him because I have AJ and Owens also. Been very happy so far with his production. Wayne has helped too. If Schaub stays healthy, 4,000 / 30 seems reasonable.

 
WTF is Andre Johnson even suited up for when he gets zero balls thrown to him in the 2nd half. This coaching staff is clueless. If Schaub was a real man, he would ####can the called play, draw something up in his head and tell Andre it was coming his way.
Thus says an Andre Johnson owner. :whoosh:
Damn right. I own the studs and this clueless staff has no idea how to get this stud the ball. They are gone soon adn if I can get Shanahan or Holmgren in there, look out casue AJ goes nuts. I'm sick of Kubiak's #### plan.
 
aburt19 said:
FavreCo said:
WTF is Andre Johnson even suited up for when he gets zero balls thrown to him in the 2nd half. This coaching staff is clueless. If Schaub was a real man, he would ####can the called play, draw something up in his head and tell Andre it was coming his way.
Thus says an Andre Johnson owner. :wall:
No, thus says someone with "Brett Favre" in his user name. I bet he thinks Schaub should draw some plays up in the dirt and just go have fun out there chucking it, play with a real playground mentality. Basically, he thinks Schaub should just be a big kid out there.
 
aburt19 said:
FavreCo said:
WTF is Andre Johnson even suited up for when he gets zero balls thrown to him in the 2nd half. This coaching staff is clueless. If Schaub was a real man, he would ####can the called play, draw something up in his head and tell Andre it was coming his way.
Thus says an Andre Johnson owner. :P
No, thus says someone with "Brett Favre" in his user name. I bet he thinks Schaub should draw some plays up in the dirt and just go have fun out there chucking it, play with a real playground mentality. Basically, he thinks Schaub should just be a big kid out there.
Ah, caught that didn't ya. :lmao: :goodposting: What I think is that this coaching staff has had enough time and let's get someone with a clue in there. The Jets outcoached them and so did Del Rio of all people. That's pathetic.
 
Ah, caught that didn't ya. :own3d: :thumbup: What I think is that this coaching staff has had enough time and let's get someone with a clue in there. The Jets outcoached them and so did Del Rio of all people. That's pathetic.
I don't think refusing to force-feed the ball to Andre Johnson last week is a sign of being outcoached. When throwing to Andre Johnson last week, Schaub was 4 of 7 for 86 yards with an INT. When throwing to Kevin Walter, he was 7 of 7 for 96 yards and a TD. 6 of the 7 passes intended for Walter netted a first down, and the seventh was a 7 yard gain on 2nd and 10 (still a successful play). Jacksonville was rolling coverage to Johnson and daring Schaub to throw to Walter and Daniels... so Schaub complied, and with great success I might add. You want to assign blame for the loss, stop looking at Schaub "not looking at Johnson" (Johnson did still get 7 targets and 86 yards, so it's not like he was avoided all day), and start looking at that defense. Or that ridiculous OPI call against Walter at the end of the game. Or the incredibly fluky fumble through the end zone. That wasn't the coaching staff's fault- Slaton's fumbled 3 times so far this year, so the coaching staff decided to go with the other guy with very unfortunate results. That's a case of decent process, bad outcome.
 
That's all fine and dandy, padding Daniels and Walter's stats but here is the bottom line: 3 points for it all. That's right, 3 points scored in the 2nd half with Andre getting zero targets.

 
Becoming more of a TREND with Schaub. Has he joined the Peyton Brees territory?He sure is a passing machine right now.
I made a post a week or two back comparing Schaub, Rivers, and Rodgers over their last 16 games. All three players have pretty much identical numbers. All three players are between 26 and 28. Yet, somehow, Schaub was never considered part of the Rivers/Rodgers tier (mostly because he missed time last year to a cheap shot).I wouldn't put him in Peyton/Brees territory (remember that Tom Brady guy, too? 5 TDs in a quarter is mildly impressive...). I'd definitely put Schaub and Roofles in Rivers/Rodgers territory, though. Probably at the higher end of that tier, to boot.
 
Trend. Schaub is a stud. ESPN.com has this cool player card page with projections for the year based on his performance so far.... pretty crazy numbers:

368/571 for 4389 yards and 37 TDs.

haha obviously that will come down, but 4000 and 30TDs is within his talent if he stays healthy for the year.

In most leagues, I targeted either Schaub or Rodgers. It looks like Schaub may have been the better choice all around, not just the better value.
This was posted three weeks ago, and he's actually improved on it...381/584 for 4827 yards and 37 TDs. I certainly don't think it's likely to play out that way, but those are QB1 numbers (slightly better than Brees's FF numbers last year).
 
Gotta say trend as well because they really can't run the ball, and it seems that doesn't matter to Houston's offense.

Schaub has a quick release to either Slaton or Owen Daniels when he's being blitzed or under heavy pass rush.

When he has good pass protection and more time, he looks for AJ or Walter down field.

Slaton may end up with more receiving yards and rushing yards by season's end.

Didn't Houston just lose 2 of their O-Line for the season? Yet, Schaub still put up 400 yards passing.

 

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