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Eviloutsider
Footballguy
It began last weeek when Brown fumbled away a chance for a win.
And it continues.
I am hoping for (almost expecting) a big week for Slaton. Oakland may not be the worst D in the league but the Texans offense should be able to move the ball on them with above average success, especially at home in dire need of a home win. Hopefully they are regretting pulling Slaton at the goalline last game.
This was inevitable. All the Slaton haters climbed on board the wagon but it has already lost a wheel. Chris Brown has and always will be as frail as a china doll. Yes the guy has put up some amazing games- that 175 plus yards against JAX several years ago in the Titans opener comes to mind- but some annoying obscure injury always surfaces. Yes Slaton did fumble 3 times in the first 2 games but that Brown goal line fumble absolutely cost the Texans the game. And Gary Kubiaks ongoing praising of the mediocre Brown as well as the "I wish we had looked more closely at Cedric Benson in the off seasom talk" was so obviously a motivational ploy it could have been lifted directly from a Tony Robbins seminar
Bottom line- if you stuck with Slaton kudos- if you bought him low (like me) kudos to you as well. Start him with confidence against OAK as an RB1
Bottom line- if you stuck with Slaton kudos- if you bought him low (like me) kudos to you as well. Start him with confidence against OAK as an RB1
In his most effective game Slaton had 12 carries to Brown's 8. Brown also got the goal line carries. He was ineffective against the Titans and the Jets... hardly mediocre defenses. The fumbles were inexcusable obviously, but his situation was too good for his numbers to not get better. The doom and gloomers always come out in full force to call bust or washed up, rather than look at things logically. I don't see him busting out huge (but wouldn't be surprised if he does) this week as the Raiders defense is not bad at all. But he should be a lot better than he has been.
Banger
Footballguy
I agree he'll likely get better and I have tried to trade for him in a few leagues but I'm not breaking the bank for him. I was skeptical going into the year and that hasn't changed.
Slaton was actually pretty effective last week. He had a verynice rushing average. A touchdown would have made it a good game for his fantasy owners. The fact that Brown is predictably knicked up already is another encouraging sign for Slaton owners. It sucks having your fantasy back lifted at the goal line.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Traded Slaton this week for Roddy White and Beanie Wells.
I think Slaton rebounds to have a good, not great year. Just had extra RB depth and needed a WR.
I think Slaton rebounds to have a good, not great year. Just had extra RB depth and needed a WR.
tim_whatley
Footballguy
And Kubes has talked of activating a practice squad back if Brown can't go this weekend.I have said all offseason that those pimping Slaton as a top ten back were crazy. Last year was an anomaly for a Kubiac coached offense. He doesn't want one RB carrying the entire load. He never has, historically. Those who continue to count on Slaton as their #1 fantasy RB will continue to be disappointed.
kerpow
Footballguy
I'm confident he can bounce back and finish in the RB 12-15 area which is what you expect from an early 2nd round RB. I drafted him as my RB1 but took Moss in the 1st round so it would be too much to expect top 5 numbers from him.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
I went the same way in the 1st two rounds of my draft. So I too was not expecting top 5 numbers from him. However my WR 3 spot was a wasteland (thank you Royal) and I got some later RB values so I made a move. He has his best week of the season so far this week.
Agree, anyone expecting RB1 numbers is foolish. I got him in the 3rd round and would be happy with a 12-15 finish. But I think he's capable of cracking the bottom of the top 10 in that offense provided Kubiak isn't a total jerk.
tim_whatley
Footballguy
Doubtful.Here is the current list of top 30 RBs in a non-PPR, standard storing league. I don't see Slaton moving into the top 15 of this group.Peterson, Adrian RB MIN Johnson, Chris RB TENMcGahee, Willis RB BALJones-Drew, Maurice RB JAC Gore, Frank RB SF Jackson, Fred RB BUF Benson, Cedric RB CIN Jones, Julius RB SEA Brown, Ronnie RB MIA Sproles, Darren RB SD Williams, DeAngelo RB CAR Barber, Marion RB DAL Grant, Ryan RB GBSmith, Kevin RB DET Turner, Michael RB ATL Hightower, Tim RB ARI Jackson, Steven RB STLBuckhalter, Correll RB DEN Rice, Ray RB BALJones, Thomas RB NYJWilliams, Ricky RB MIA Addai, Joseph RB IND Bell, Mike RB NO Jones, Felix RB DAL Taylor, Fred RB NE Bush, Reggie RB NO Williams, Cadillac RB TB Brown, Donald RB IND Jacobs, Brandon RB NYGMoreno, Knowshon RB DEN
tim_whatley
Footballguy
Smugness is not a good quality.
I agree there are some spares on that list, and Slaton will certainly eclipse their production.
But there is also no reason to assume that Slaton has the pedigree or the proportion of his team's workload to suggest he is a lock to finish in the top 15 of running backs.
I agree there are some spares on that list, and Slaton will certainly eclipse their production.
But there is also no reason to assume that Slaton has the pedigree or the proportion of his team's workload to suggest he is a lock to finish in the top 15 of running backs.
And who's to say that last year Slaton wasn't the fluke?No way that Slaton will be in the top 15 with such studs as Fred Jackson, Willis Mcgahee, Darren Sproles, and Julius Jones there.
rock753
Footballguy
If "cracks the bottom of the top 10" than he would indeed be putting up RB1 numbers...wouldn't he?
I said he's capable, but you shouldn't draft him with that expectation.
Nice list, but instead of triple-spacing, you should have went for quintuple-spacing. Would have taken up more space.
I also took Moss at the end of round 1 and Slaton in round 2. My team is 0-3 now, with a couple of really close losses, but I expect that to turn around soon.
8 team league? Seriously, if I'm remembering correctly, Slaton's ADP was much better than 3rd round.
tim_whatley
Footballguy
220, 221. Whatever it takes.Nice list, but instead of triple-spacing, you should have went for quintuple-spacing. Would have taken up more space.
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steelcityman
Footballguy
Lets look at these rankings in January. 3 weeks is hardly enough time to call him a hump. Now that Schaub is throwing for yards and scores, teams might lean towards coverage and drop someone from the LOS. He's actually given me 2 good weeks in my league, PPR. So now I just wait for the better weeks to begin. Hopefully soon, but better later. 3-0 start for me, cant ##### too much.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Or a 12 team league where Brees/Brady go at 1.3 and 1.4, then other owners poop their pants and take Manning, Rivers, Rodgers and Warner in the first round of the draft.
12 team ppr money league, I didn't understand how he fell that far.But i'm not gonna complain.
Not that drastic but basically. Lots of QBs and WR went early.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
Its funny you guys celebrate like CHRIS BROWN was ever a factor in Slatons poor play.
He had nothing to do with that at all.....wether CB was there our not.
But hey....anything you can cheer about then go right ahead.
I watch ever game on him and will admit he looked way better running the rock this last week compared to when he has since training camp opened.
He had nothing to do with that at all.....wether CB was there our not.
But hey....anything you can cheer about then go right ahead.
I watch ever game on him and will admit he looked way better running the rock this last week compared to when he has since training camp opened.
Slaton was very impressive last week....and yes a TD would have made his week even better. The kid will be money this year in PPR and finish in the top 10 RB's IMO. We have a loooong way to go. We are only in week 4 and the schedule is going to get rosey for Slaton owners.Oh and did I mention Chris Brown is dog ####? Yeah...that guy will not sniff the GL for a long time. He blew a possible win for the Texans and Kubiak is a shmuck for overthinking his RB rotation. Slaton proved last year he is a baller and should get the rock 20 plus times a game.
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FrostBite
Footballguy
The OLine needs to play better and actually give Slaton room to run. He's been getting hit at the line of scrimmage on almost every play.
The other problem with Slaton right now is that Schaub has been throwing the ball down the field effectively and hasn't needed to dump the ball off.
Kubiak needs to run more draws because teams have to respect the pass which should open those kinds of plays up.
The other problem with Slaton right now is that Schaub has been throwing the ball down the field effectively and hasn't needed to dump the ball off.
Kubiak needs to run more draws because teams have to respect the pass which should open those kinds of plays up.
H.K.
Footballguy
Kubiak disagrees with you:
Did you expect him to say, "Yeah, Chris really sucks now. Bummer" ?
H.K.
Footballguy
Not in those exact words, but he could just have easily declared the role no longer Brown's in those situations. However, he is staying with him. There is no debate or declaration of coachspeak on this issue.
gnarboots11
Footballguy
scored him for glen coffee
But if Slaton suddenly starts appearing in the game when the Texans are inside the five, then it's coachspeak at its finest.Time will tell.
Mark Wimer
Moderator
Bingo. Happy Slaton owner in multiple leagues here.MWtim_whatley
Footballguy
It seems obvious from this and past comments that Kubes prefers a bigger back for short yardage situations. Last year was an anomaly b.c of injury.
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FrostBite
Footballguy
Slaton hasn't done much better.
Just pulled off a trade for Slaton. I got him and Cutler for Palmer, Bowe and Julius Jones. Not one regret. Slaton looked good last week, averaging 6+ YPC, but he only had 12 carries. With Brown fumbling on the one, I think they'll start to use Slaton a bit more in the red zone to see if he's more effective. I'm thinking somewhere closer to 20 carries is a more realistic expectation for this week and beyond for Slaton. Plus he's a viable threat out of the backfield, which adds to his value in PPR leagues. A classic buy-low, I'm looking forward to owning Slaton from here on out.
