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FWIW, Delhomme completed 61% of passes with 9 TDs and 5 INTs in weeks 1-8 last year, and he completed 56% of passes with 5 TDs and 7 INTs in weeks 9-16 last year.I'd say part of his success depends on Delhomme. He's got to make that passing game at least decent enough to keep teams and secondaries honest. Right now, everyone is stacking the line because Jake is throwing INTs more than TDs.
FWIW, Delhomme completed 61% of passes with 9 TDs and 5 INTs in weeks 1-8 last year, and he completed 56% of passes with 5 TDs and 7 INTs in weeks 9-16 last year.I'd say part of his success depends on Delhomme. He's got to make that passing game at least decent enough to keep teams and secondaries honest. Right now, everyone is stacking the line because Jake is throwing INTs more than TDs.
Tyring to land him now, offered R Bush and Sid Rice.
good luck with that one...
I would think it would take a Benson type back to get in the door...I doubt Bush has much value unless its PPR. If I had Benson I'd certainly be looking to package him for DWill. I don't hate Benson and think he'll probably do well the rest of the year but Williams should do a lot better IMO.
Sorry, but you're spreading pixie dust on a turd here. An average of 55 yds rushing and .5 TD's per game is really as bad as people are making it out to be. Remember where he was drafted. While I very much agree that Williams has better days ahead, there's no mistaking how bad it's been to this point.He hasn't been nearly as bad as everyone is making him out to be so far though.In Carolina's first four gameshi- 14 for 37 1 TD, 4 rec for 42@Atl- 16 for 79 1 TD, 3 rec for 32@ Dal- 11 for 64, 2 rec for 10Was- 18 for 40, 2 rec for 19
Don't say you weren't warnedSorry, but you're spreading pixie dust on a turd here. An average of 55 yds rushing and .5 TD's per game is really as bad as people are making it out to be. Remember where he was drafted. While I very much agree that Williams has better days ahead, there's no mistaking how bad it's been to this point.He hasn't been nearly as bad as everyone is making him out to be so far though.In Carolina's first four games
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Receiving yards don't count for you? He's had one bad game out of the four he's played in.You can almost throw the Philly game out, as it was a disaster all around, and he still managed 79 total yards and a score.
You can't look at it that way. You have to go on a game by game basis, as that is how most leagues are scored.He's had two bad games and two pretty good ones. So far he has underperformed his ADP, but I don't think it's fair to call him a bust.The only thing that has surprised me heretofore, is the amount of carries Stewart has gotten. In retrospect, it probably shoudn't surprise me.
While I'm not predicting Williams to replicate his 2nd half from last year, your logic is pretty faulty. Carolina's 2008 "2nd half" looked like an easy schedule, when you look at it IN HINDSIGHT. It's easy to look at things that have already happened, and make statements like "no wonder he did so well, he had an easy schedule." Right now, Carolina's schedule doesn't look easy, but at the end of the year, things might look very different. For example, preseason 2008, Carolina was projected to have a middle of the road 2nd half rushing schedule, with 2 easy games, 1 hard game, and 5 average games. You commented "In addition, Stewart is healthy, so no 100% Williams. Sorry Williams owners. You bought into a lie." WTF are you talking about? During the 2nd half last year, Williams had 63% of the carries, and Stewart had 37%. That's pretty much what was expected for this year, and it's been almost exactly what has happened. Dilliams has 64% of the carries, and Stewart has 36%.But, the Panthers are struggling a lot right now.So other than the fact that 2 of your 3 reasons for saying Williams won't have a good 2nd half are COMPLETELY WRONG, you made a good argument.
EdwardCat knows stuff.....
I'm not saying he's completely worthless. RB16 in high performance formats - good RB2. Just not what you drafted him for. A big game this week won't silence this critic (and I do believe he will have a very big game - he's my #1 RB this week). The key to all of this is remembering where you drafted him and what his purpose was supposed to serve for your fantasy squad.
I suspect the bolded part is where the problem is.He seems to be getting more done with his receptions this year but is losing more carries and touchdowns (TD's were expected). BTW, I don't think you can point to Stewart as his numbers seem to be down as well.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't come through this week with another big game.Good start to what's hopefully another nice run of big games.
I expected a big game against Tampa and DeAngelo delivered.
Carolina faces the worst run defense in the league this week. Thomas Jones gashed them for over 200 yards last week, and they've given up over 200 yards on the ground in 3 of their last 4 games.
I would expect another gameplan where the Panthers try to hide Jake Delhomme by giving their running backs over 40 carries.
If you're worried about the schedule DeAngelo faces the rest of the year deal him after he shreds the Bills.
Just wait until Stewart's achilles or hangnail flare up and he misses many games.
How do you figure this? Carolina has the 2nd hardest schedule for 2009 and the teams it has left to play include New Orleans x2, New England, Minnesota, Atlanta, and the Giants. The only "easy" teams are Buffalo and Tampa again and I'm thinking Tampa's going to be ready for that game. The other teams are Arizona, Jets and Miami. Their W-L record for the rest of their opponents is 39-22. I'm thinking it's not getting easier. As to DWill. He'll have a decent year, but I think it's only 80% of last year. Probably not near his ADP.
Jonathan Stewart has never missed an NFL game in his career.
I offered Jennings/Stafford/Westy for DWill/Palmer in a start 2QB dynasty ppr and was turned down, so I dont see Reggie and Sid flying...
I meant that when you look, NOW, at Carolina's 2nd half from 2008, you can say it was an easy schedule. However, as I posted previously, based on 2008 preseason SOS, it was not predicted to be the gravy train that EdwardCat portrayed it as. His 2009 schedule, RIGHT NOW, looks difficult, but that may or may not be the case at the end of the season.VaCatFan said:
You'll make it home tonight barring a DUI checkpoint.
Williams is currently the #9 ranked RB in my primary league (and 7 of the 8 guys above him haven't had their bye week yet...Williams has).I really don't think it's that much of a stretch to figure he could finish in the Top 10. Hell, he could slightly regress and still finish Top 10.I agree - especially if the Bills find a way to keep it interesting for 60 minutes. He's my #1 ranked RB this week by a good margin. He should singlehandedly ground the Bills into fine ash.
Wrong again, my friend.0.5 PPR, 1 point per 10 yards rush/rec and 6 points per TD.Not screwy at all.FantasyTrader said:You have a very screwy scoring system that overvalues attempts.
He'll do much more than slightly regress.
You're correct. But there's simply no way he finishes top 15.Wrong again, my friend.0.5 PPR, 1 point per 10 yards rush/rec and 6 points per TD.Not screwy at all.FantasyTrader said:You have a very screwy scoring system that overvalues attempts.
THIS
I'm not disputing your opinion that Williams will finish outside the Top 10, or even Top 15. He very well might.What I am disputing is you suggesting someone else is drunk, just because they think Williams will finish in the Top 10.
Oh for Christ's sake lighten up! It was a joke.
