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[That Little Voic...]

23 for 126 and 3.

Yeah Buffalo and all, but the staff has not been happy with Slaton, and this is how you earn a job.

[Walton Goggins]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

[Banger]

Steve "fumblitis" Slaton meet the bench.... He's been on notice for weeks and coaches aren't going to keep giving it to a guy that's fumbling at the rate he is unless he's ADP. He's not ADP.

This post has been edited by Banger: Nov 1 2009, 02:42 PM

[certificate]

When he was an Eagle, I never wanted to see him on the field because he was always fumbling.

The irony.

[Tar Heel Boy]

Yep, he has fumbled a lot, but the past few weeks he's been very productive. I think this was more of a see what can happen next time you play like this than anything. Slaton will be the starter next week. He's too explosive as a receiver not to be.

[That Little Voic...]

I needed a bye week filler in the worst way, but I was not sharky enough to see this coming. Too late now.

Houston is getting very interesting IMO. Prolly no room for them in the AFC playoffs, but I imagine their fans enjoy watching this club week in and week out.

[Mr. Retukes]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

[Banger]

Yep, he has fumbled a lot, but the past few weeks he's been very productive. I think this was more of a see what can happen next time you play like this than anything. Slaton will be the starter next week. He's too explosive as a receiver not to be.

He may the Reggie Bush of the offense but they've been looking for a between the tackles goal line runner. Looks like they have found him.

[flranger]

So the questions is.......................do you dump your entire alotment of blind bid money for the guy? You have to, right? Right?

[certificate]

At the very least, slaton gets a big downgrade, I don't know who starts next week, but this is how RBBCs form

[Lobary]

Don't overreact, people. This has RBBC written all over it. Slaton is too good to ride the pine.

[D'OHtis]

I see RBBC. Slaton will be the starter again next week IMO.

I think those that comparable Slaton to Chris Johnson can safely store that opinion where it belonged long ago [in the toilet].

[skillz]

Yep, he has fumbled a lot, but the past few weeks he's been very productive. I think this was more of a see what can happen next time you play like this than anything. Slaton will be the starter next week. He's too explosive as a receiver not to be.

OK, even if butter fingers starts next week who has the nerve to start the guy on their fantasy team considering he fumbles almost every game and, if he fumbles again next week, will be on the bench for the rest of the game. There is no way I start this guy next week (unless I have no options at RB) even if he is starting again. At the very least, Moats has earned some touches which will certainly harm Slaton's value.

[Gopher State]

Slaton will be the new 3rd down back. Moats will be getting the goal line, and a lions share of 1 & 2 down touches.

RBBC with Slaton on the short end

[fruity pebbles]

Don't overreact, people. This has RBBC written all over it. Slaton is too good to ride the pine.

Too good? At catching the ball maybe. As far as running, this is the best by far the Texans running game has looked this season.

[wdcrob]

Don't overreact, people. This has RBBC written all over it. Slaton is too good to ride the pine.

Too good? At catching the ball maybe. As far as running, this is the best by far the Texans running game has looked this season.

The Bills give up an average of 5.3 yards/carry, and are the worst rushing D in the NFL. Makes it harder to read going forward...

[Mr. Retukes]

Don't overreact, people. This has RBBC written all over it. Slaton is too good to ride the pine.

Too good? At catching the ball maybe. As far as running, this is the best by far the Texans running game has looked this season.

The Bills give up an average of 5.3 yards/carry, and are the worst rushing D in the NFL. Makes it harder to read going forward...

True, but Moats averaged 5.5 today and also had 3 TDs (when the Bills were averaging 1.3 TDs allowed per game). And Chris Brown only averaged 3.1 ypc against the same defense.

And if you look at the other RBs that ran on the Buffalo defense (D-Will, Thomas Jones, Ronnie Brown, Pierre Thomas), Moats is in pretty good company.

[sparkky]

looks like we've seen next weeks WW darling.

[VaTerp]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

Before Today?

Before today Slaton was leading the league in fumbles at a rate of 1 per game. Moats has lost 1 fumble in his career.

Where do people get this stuff?

[Mr. Retukes]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

Before Today?

Before today Slaton was leading the league in fumbles at a rate of 1 per game. Moats has lost 1 fumble in his career.

Where do people get this stuff?

From the NFL.

Moats: 3 fumbles in 138 career touches (1 fumble per 46 touches)

Slaton: 9 fumbles in 454 career touches (1 fumble per 50 touches)

[certificate]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

Before Today?

Before today Slaton was leading the league in fumbles at a rate of 1 per game. Moats has lost 1 fumble in his career.

Where do people get this stuff?

Uhh, well in his 2 years with the eagles he had 105 carries with 4 fumbles, 2 lost (including preseason). That's not much of a sample, but it seemed like every time the guy got a chance he was fumbling. I thought he had potential to be a complement to Westbrook, but I think that his fumbling got him basically run out of town.

This was a few years aback though, its entirely possible that he's corrected it, and I wouldnt hold it against him if I had the opportunity to sign him now... but it is something to watch out for.

This post has been edited by certificate: Nov 1 2009, 04:53 PM

[VaTerp]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

Before Today?

Before today Slaton was leading the league in fumbles at a rate of 1 per game. Moats has lost 1 fumble in his career.

Where do people get this stuff?

From the NFL.

Moats: 3 fumbles in 138 career touches (1 fumble per 46 touches)

Slaton: 9 fumbles in 454 career touches (1 fumble per 50 touches)

Fair enough.

But I still think its ridiculous to suggest that "before today" Moats fumble more often than Slaton.

Yes, Slaton has 3 times as many touches but the fact is that he has fumbled 7 times THIS YEAR losing 5. Moats fumbled 3 times and lost 1, all in his rookie year in 2005.

[Lobary]

There is no question that Moats has value now, but tap the brakes, folks. Kubiak is a believer in Slaton and he knows that #20 is an important piece of the offensive puzzle, especially now that OD is out for the year. The depth chart has not changed. Slaton is going to get his chances despite his recent struggles with the football.

[certificate]

From his scouting report:

Negatives... Not an inside power runner, but compensates with his ability to pick and slide through the trash. ... Not a vocal leader, but lets his actions talk for him (good team player). ... Needs to do a better job squaring up, mirroring and exploding into defenders. ... Has decent hands, but struggles maintaining concentration going for the pass (hears defenders' footsteps). ... Can extend and pluck the ball at its high point, but prefers to cradle and double catch, resulting in easy drops. ... Runs with the ball too low and exposed, which has resulted in a very high amount of fumbles (16) and turnovers (8) in the last two years.

[Slider]

I've watched Moats a ton in Philly. He'll whiff and get the QB killed and he won't catch a ton. Nice runner against weaker run D's. That's about it.

[ninerfanatic4920...]

Slaton/Noel Devine part deux?

[Brock Middlebroo...]

2nd overall pick inthe "experts" draft hits the pine.

[JAA]

Slatons ADP is warranted in PPR. How many fumbles did he have last season? If he DOESNT fumble and plays this entire game, he scores at least 1/2 of what Moats does. Id take that any week.

That said, I cant think of a reason Kubiak doesnt start Moats next week. Slaton needs to earn his time. Smells like some soph slump

[Mr. Mojo]

I needed a bye week filler in the worst way, but I was not sharky enough to see this coming. Too late now.

Houston is getting very interesting IMO. Prolly no room for them in the AFC playoffs, but I imagine their fans enjoy watching this club week in and week out.

Me too.
I actually considered Chris Brown this week but didn't pick him up.
Moat's points were unused by every fantasy league in the country.

[benm3218]

There is no question that Moats has value now, but tap the brakes, folks. Kubiak is a believer in Slaton and he knows that #20 is an important piece of the offensive puzzle, especially now that OD is out for the year. The depth chart has not changed. Slaton is going to get his chances despite his recent struggles with the football.

maybe if you post this or something similar a few MORE times in this thread, you will start to believe it??? Cause no one else does.
Doesn't Kubiak come from where you plug in a RB and let him play (denver)?

[gheemony]

This is against the worst run defense league. Slaton belw a chance for a huge day. I think it's RBBC going forward. Feels a little like Reggie Bush/Pierre Thomas to me.

[Lobary]

There is no question that Moats has value now, but tap the brakes, folks. Kubiak is a believer in Slaton and he knows that #20 is an important piece of the offensive puzzle, especially now that OD is out for the year. The depth chart has not changed. Slaton is going to get his chances despite his recent struggles with the football.

maybe if you post this or something similar a few MORE times in this thread, you will start to believe it??? Cause no one else does.
Doesn't Kubiak come from where you plug in a RB and let him play (denver)?

Hey idiot, I heard Kubiak say it himself in the postgame interview on KILT 610. He was asked point blank if the depth chart had changed and he responded "NO."

Quite simply, you don't know what you are talking about. Kubiak is not going to keep Slaton uninvolved, and only a fool would believe otherwise given the body of work Slaton has put up so far in his career. This is a definite RBBC in the making.

This post has been edited by Lobary: Nov 1 2009, 08:10 PM

[benm3218]

There is no question that Moats has value now, but tap the brakes, folks. Kubiak is a believer in Slaton and he knows that #20 is an important piece of the offensive puzzle, especially now that OD is out for the year. The depth chart has not changed. Slaton is going to get his chances despite his recent struggles with the football.

maybe if you post this or something similar a few MORE times in this thread, you will start to believe it??? Cause no one else does.
Doesn't Kubiak come from where you plug in a RB and let him play (denver)?

Hey idiot, I heard Kubiak say it himself in the postgame interview on KILT 610. He was asked point blank if the depth chart had changed and he responded "NO."

Quite simply, you don't know what you are talking about. Kubiak is not going to keep Slaton uninvolved, and only a fool would believe otherwise given the body of work Slaton has put up so far in his career. This is a definite RBBC in the making.

SO, he'll get a chance to run without fumbling and then when he does as he has every game he'll get pulled? You are the one not wanting to see reality.

[Todem]

Anybody remember Tiki Barber?

Slaton will get this worked out soon. He has a ton of big time talent. And is this teams starter. Without question he is going through a rough stretch......but Ryan Moats was running 3rd string till he got a chance to play against the worst run defense in the league.

[spider321]

Settle down fellas...

...game of Moats' life...

...won't happen again...

...move along now.

[Lobary]

There is no question that Moats has value now, but tap the brakes, folks. Kubiak is a believer in Slaton and he knows that #20 is an important piece of the offensive puzzle, especially now that OD is out for the year. The depth chart has not changed. Slaton is going to get his chances despite his recent struggles with the football.

maybe if you post this or something similar a few MORE times in this thread, you will start to believe it??? Cause no one else does.
Doesn't Kubiak come from where you plug in a RB and let him play (denver)?

Hey idiot, I heard Kubiak say it himself in the postgame interview on KILT 610. He was asked point blank if the depth chart had changed and he responded "NO."

Quite simply, you don't know what you are talking about. Kubiak is not going to keep Slaton uninvolved, and only a fool would believe otherwise given the body of work Slaton has put up so far in his career. This is a definite RBBC in the making.

SO, he'll get a chance to run without fumbling and then when he does as he has every game he'll get pulled? You are the one not wanting to see reality.

How many times did he fumble last year? Have you actually listened to Kubiak talk about this? I have. Again, you are overreacting and not thinking clearly. Moats will have a role in the offense now, but he has not won the starter's job and the bulk of the touches based on today's performance. Kubiak held Slaton accountable for his screwup by benching him for the remainder of the game. He will give him every opportunity to win back his trust in practice. You are kidding yourself if you pretend he won't.

[Banger]

Settle down fellas...

...game of Moats' life...

...won't happen again...

...move along now.

finger crossed....

[Walton Goggins]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

Do you realize what you wrote makes no sense?

This post has been edited by Walton Goggins: Nov 1 2009, 08:30 PM

[MCguidance]

There is no question that Moats has value now, but tap the brakes, folks. Kubiak is a believer in Slaton and he knows that #20 is an important piece of the offensive puzzle, especially now that OD is out for the year. The depth chart has not changed. Slaton is going to get his chances despite his recent struggles with the football.

maybe if you post this or something similar a few MORE times in this thread, you will start to believe it??? Cause no one else does.
Doesn't Kubiak come from where you plug in a RB and let him play (denver)?

Hey idiot, I heard Kubiak say it himself in the postgame interview on KILT 610. He was asked point blank if the depth chart had changed and he responded "NO."

Quite simply, you don't know what you are talking about. Kubiak is not going to keep Slaton uninvolved, and only a fool would believe otherwise given the body of work Slaton has put up so far in his career. This is a definite RBBC in the making.

Not nice

[Walton Goggins]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

Before Today?

Before today Slaton was leading the league in fumbles at a rate of 1 per game. Moats has lost 1 fumble in his career.

Where do people get this stuff?

From the NFL.

Moats: 3 fumbles in 138 career touches (1 fumble per 46 touches)

Slaton: 9 fumbles in 454 career touches (1 fumble per 50 touches)

May want to zip it before you run your mouth off.

[Walton Goggins]

Slaton is a fumbling machine.

[benm3218]

There is no question that Moats has value now, but tap the brakes, folks. Kubiak is a believer in Slaton and he knows that #20 is an important piece of the offensive puzzle, especially now that OD is out for the year. The depth chart has not changed. Slaton is going to get his chances despite his recent struggles with the football.

maybe if you post this or something similar a few MORE times in this thread, you will start to believe it??? Cause no one else does.
Doesn't Kubiak come from where you plug in a RB and let him play (denver)?

Hey idiot, I heard Kubiak say it himself in the postgame interview on KILT 610. He was asked point blank if the depth chart had changed and he responded "NO."

Quite simply, you don't know what you are talking about. Kubiak is not going to keep Slaton uninvolved, and only a fool would believe otherwise given the body of work Slaton has put up so far in his career. This is a definite RBBC in the making.

SO, he'll get a chance to run without fumbling and then when he does as he has every game he'll get pulled? You are the one not wanting to see reality.

How many times did he fumble last year? Have you actually listened to Kubiak talk about this? I have. Again, you are overreacting and not thinking clearly. Moats will have a role in the offense now, but he has not won the starter's job and the bulk of the touches based on today's performance. Kubiak held Slaton accountable for his screwup by benching him for the remainder of the game. He will give him every opportunity to win back his trust in practice. You are kidding yourself if you pretend he won't.

Keep repeating it. Keep repeating it.

[Lobary]

Anything that comes FROM KUBIAK'S OWN MOUTH bears repeating for the benefit of all FFers trying to gauge the Houston backfield situation.

You are uninformed and wrong. RBBC for sure.

[Mr. Retukes]

Hope Texans stick with Moats who at least won't fumble the ball, very quick and has got some pop.

You do realize that before today Moats fumbled more often than Slaton did.....right?

Before Today?

Before today Slaton was leading the league in fumbles at a rate of 1 per game. Moats has lost 1 fumble in his career.

Where do people get this stuff?

From the NFL.

Moats: 3 fumbles in 138 career touches (1 fumble per 46 touches)

Slaton: 9 fumbles in 454 career touches (1 fumble per 50 touches)

May want to zip it before you run your mouth off.

Feel free to post a fact once in a while.

[Mr. Retukes]

Anything that comes FROM KUBIAK'S OWN MOUTH bears repeating for the benefit of all FFers trying to gauge the Houston backfield situation.

You are uninformed and wrong. RBBC for sure.

Show me the quote from Kubiak. Post the audio/video file or post a link to a reputable news source.

(And sorry, but "I heard Kubiak say it" is NOT a reputable source. In fact, you'll get permabanned from this site if you keep making claims like that and they don't turn out to be accurate.)

[Lobary]

Anything that comes FROM KUBIAK'S OWN MOUTH bears repeating for the benefit of all FFers trying to gauge the Houston backfield situation.

You are uninformed and wrong. RBBC for sure.

Show me the quote from Kubiak. Post the audio/video file or post a link to a reputable news source.

(And sorry, but "I heard Kubiak say it" is NOT a reputable source. In fact, you'll get permabanned from this site if you keep making claims like that and they don't turn out to be accurate.)

Have a listen if you don't believe me. (And a big middle finger to you for insinuating that I just made it up).

http://www.sportsradio610.com/topic/play_w...audioId=4131831

This post has been edited by Lobary: Nov 1 2009, 08:54 PM

[JAA]

I needed a bye week filler in the worst way, but I was not sharky enough to see this coming. Too late now.

Houston is getting very interesting IMO. Prolly no room for them in the AFC playoffs, but I imagine their fans enjoy watching this club week in and week out.

Me too.
I actually considered Chris Brown this week but didn't pick him up.
Moat's points were unused by every fantasy league in the country.

He got lots of points for me on my bench

[simmonjm]

Anything that comes FROM KUBIAK'S OWN MOUTH bears repeating for the benefit of all FFers trying to gauge the Houston backfield situation.

You are uninformed and wrong. RBBC for sure.

Show me the quote from Kubiak. Post the audio/video file or post a link to a reputable news source.

(And sorry, but "I heard Kubiak say it" is NOT a reputable source. In fact, you'll get permabanned from this site if you keep making claims like that and they don't turn out to be accurate.)

Have a listen if you don't believe me. (And a big middle finger to you for insinuating that I just made it up).

http://www.sportsradio610.com/topic/play_w...audioId=4131831

Kubiak reiterates that Slaton is the starter and states that in order for team goals to be reached Slaton must be involved.

[timschochet]

Bottom line: I can't afford what happened with Slaton today again. If either Moats gets the bulk of carries or it's a full blown RBBC, Slaton is worthless to me. I'll probably bench him next week until I see how this goes.

[certificate]

Ryan Moats' 123 yard 3 TD game is clearly just a ploy to motivate Slaton.