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Interesting Comment Dropped on HOU RB Game on Sirius Blitz (1 Viewer)

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Wondering if anyone else who listens to the Blitz on Sirius NFL Radio caught an interesting sound bite this AM when they either had a Texans' defensive player (think it was DeMeco Ryans) on real quick or replayed a recent interview (I was only paying about 75% attention to the actual intro) and he said something to the effect of: "...so hopefully Moats runs the ball as effectively as he did last week..." which was delivered very innocently (and casually) and was not really picked up on by Shein or Jim Miller. I have no vested interest in either of these guys - though one of my chief rivals does, but I found it very interesting to say the least as it could have been "planted" on purpose for the Colts' ears or it could have been a straight shot that Moats is the man for now and as such they hope he plays well this weekend.

My personal thought is it was just an innocent statement and having played well last week Moats was at the front of the guy's mind and if I had to guess, I'd say Kubiak rolls Slaton out as the starter this weekend and gives him every opportunity to keep his job after a week of smoke screening but it will be quite interesting to see what goes down in that game come Sunday. With Daniels' injury they need the play making ability Slaton brings to the offense but if he coughs up one more fumble, I think Kubiak's head will probably pop off.

 
Wondering if anyone else who listens to the Blitz on Sirius NFL Radio caught an interesting sound bite this AM when they either had a Texans' defensive player (think it was DeMeco Ryans) on real quick or replayed a recent interview (I was only paying about 75% attention to the actual intro) and he said something to the effect of: "...so hopefully Moats runs the ball as effectively as he did last week..." which was delivered very innocently (and casually) and was not really picked up on by Shein or Jim Miller. I have no vested interest in either of these guys - though one of my chief rivals does, but I found it very interesting to say the least as it could have been "planted" on purpose for the Colts' ears or it could have been a straight shot that Moats is the man for now and as such they hope he plays well this weekend.My personal thought is it was just an innocent statement and having played well last week Moats was at the front of the guy's mind and if I had to guess, I'd say Kubiak rolls Slaton out as the starter this weekend and gives him every opportunity to keep his job after a week of smoke screening but it will be quite interesting to see what goes down in that game come Sunday. With Daniels' injury they need the play making ability Slaton brings to the offense but if he coughs up one more fumble, I think Kubiak's head will probably pop off.
Slaton hasn't made plays in the run game this year. I don't know why people would be surprised or shocked...this wouldn't be like Sproles unseating LT. Moats production last week was better than any day of Slaton's career. Why wouldn't they give him another shot?
 
I'm 100% speculating here, but I'd guess that it's a 3:2 or 2:1 split in favor of Moats this Sunday and if it works well it stays that way until something changes. 'If it ain't broke' and all.

 
I think it's pretty much irrelevant who the starter is. Both guys are going to get looks, as was also the plan last week. Slaton's still a valuable play, IMO, as he's an intergral part of the passing game, especially in the wake of the OD injury. But, he's risky because if he fumbles, he'll probably get the Buffalo treatment again. If you have him, I'd play him because you probably drafted him high or gave up a lot for him. If he doesn't fumble, he'll put up his same ol' numbers.

Moats, on the other hand, is a much riskier play, as his performance is dependent on how he does in the early going, how Slaton does in the early going, and Slaton fumbling. If you're starting him, you have to bank on his coming out fast and putting up good numbers, which will play well for his chance at getting more touches as the game wears on, or Slaton fumbling, which will put him in the situation where he gets essentially all of the touches like last week.

 
I would very much like Moats to take over, i'm playing SLaton this week and the rest of his guys are very good as well.

 
Gary Kubiak worked under Mike Shanahan in Denver. I could see this situation remaining murky for the remainder of the year.

 
am I the only one thinking last week was the wake-up call for Slaton?

seriously though, Moats just makes 1/3rd of the biggest RB trifecta in the NFL -Moats, Slaton, Brown.

good luck with it, seems worse than the NE quartet of Morris, Maroney, Law Firm, Faulk

this week's stud is next week's bust..

and you'll forever be chasing fantasy pts as they switch it up in Houston,frustrating fantasy GM's to no end..

 
am I the only one thinking last week was the wake-up call for Slaton? seriously though, Moats just makes 1/3rd of the biggest RB trifecta in the NFL -Moats, Slaton, Brown.good luck with it, seems worse than the NE quartet of Morris, Maroney, Law Firm, Faulkthis week's stud is next week's bust..and you'll forever be chasing fantasy pts as they switch it up in Houston,frustrating fantasy GM's to no end..
NO down?
 
am I the only one thinking last week was the wake-up call for Slaton? seriously though, Moats just makes 1/3rd of the biggest RB trifecta in the NFL -Moats, Slaton, Brown.good luck with it, seems worse than the NE quartet of Morris, Maroney, Law Firm, Faulkthis week's stud is next week's bust..and you'll forever be chasing fantasy pts as they switch it up in Houston,frustrating fantasy GM's to no end..
While I have to agree, I still believe Slaton whom I own in zero leagues, is the most talented guy of that trio and it's not really close. Same time, you can't hang on to the ball in the NFL you'll see that famous acronym Parcells loved to throw around emerge:N otF orL ong
 
am I the only one thinking last week was the wake-up call for Slaton? seriously though, Moats just makes 1/3rd of the biggest RB trifecta in the NFL -Moats, Slaton, Brown.good luck with it, seems worse than the NE quartet of Morris, Maroney, Law Firm, Faulkthis week's stud is next week's bust..and you'll forever be chasing fantasy pts as they switch it up in Houston,frustrating fantasy GM's to no end..
While I have to agree, I still believe Slaton whom I own in zero leagues, is the most talented guy of that trio and it's not really close. Same time, you can't hang on to the ball in the NFL you'll see that famous acronym Parcells loved to throw around emerge:N otF orL ong
Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
 
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am I the only one thinking last week was the wake-up call for Slaton? seriously though, Moats just makes 1/3rd of the biggest RB trifecta in the NFL -Moats, Slaton, Brown.good luck with it, seems worse than the NE quartet of Morris, Maroney, Law Firm, Faulkthis week's stud is next week's bust..and you'll forever be chasing fantasy pts as they switch it up in Houston,frustrating fantasy GM's to no end..
While I have to agree, I still believe Slaton whom I own in zero leagues, is the most talented guy of that trio and it's not really close. Same time, you can't hang on to the ball in the NFL you'll see that famous acronym Parcells loved to throw around emerge:N otF orL ong
Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
I never understood why Moats never seems to get a shot for more carries. I don't have hard evidence, but I remember him producing when given a chance in PHI. Bad blocking skills? I would not consider Slaton a "big time talent....big time". He is a running back that has proven he can play in this league, and even be explosive at times. I think him adding weight this offseason has hurt what made him productive last year.
 
Gary Kubiak worked under Mike Shanahan in Denver. I could see this situation remaining murky for the remainder of the year.
Situations become murky when there is not a guy who can differentiate himself from others on the team.
Exactly. This myth that Shanahan's RB situation was always murky is just that...a myth. When he had a horse who proved he could handle the load, Shanny always rode him. Terrell Davis? Clinton Portis?
 
Gary Kubiak worked under Mike Shanahan in Denver. I could see this situation remaining murky for the remainder of the year.
Situations become murky when there is not a guy who can differentiate himself from others on the team.
Exactly. This myth that Shanahan's RB situation was always murky is just that...a myth. When he had a horse who proved he could handle the load, Shanny always rode him. Terrell Davis? Clinton Portis?
I don't think Moats or Slaton fit in this category.
 
Gary Kubiak worked under Mike Shanahan in Denver. I could see this situation remaining murky for the remainder of the year.
Situations become murky when there is not a guy who can differentiate himself from others on the team.
Exactly. This myth that Shanahan's RB situation was always murky is just that...a myth. When he had a horse who proved he could handle the load, Shanny always rode him. Terrell Davis? Clinton Portis?
I don't think Moats or Slaton fit in this category.
Obviously. :P I was just addressing the Shanahan angle. Given Slaton's explosiveness, if he could prove that he could run well between the tackles and not fumble, the other RBs would have a tough time getting on the field.
 
all i care about is this week and i still don't feel comfortable picking up moats and plugging him in. i may still do it, but ...

as for it being a 3-headed RBBC, brown is a non-factor. he may steal a TD, but he's had chances and hasn't taken advantage of them. i'm really surprised by this, because he was successful in tennessee.

 
Wasn't Slaton drafted to be a 3rd down back anyways??

So really, we shouldn't be shocked his game falls aprt under over-use.

 
Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
Slaton's not a "big time talent.....big time". He had a phenomenal year last year, yes, but he's having an abysmal year this year. He hasn't proven enough on the field to rise above "flash in the pan" status. Also, Moats hasn't "floated around", he was in Philly stuck behind Brian Westbrook (who's pretty good) and Correll Buckhalter (who, as we're seeing this year, is pretty good). Slaton was the 89th overall draft pick. Moats was the 77th. As someone said, Moats unseating Slaton isn't really a Sproles unseating Tomlinson type upset, here.
 
am I the only one thinking last week was the wake-up call for Slaton?

seriously though, Moats just makes 1/3rd of the biggest RB trifecta in the NFL -Moats, Slaton, Brown.

good luck with it, seems worse than the NE quartet of Morris, Maroney, Law Firm, Faulk

this week's stud is next week's bust..

and you'll forever be chasing fantasy pts as they switch it up in Houston,frustrating fantasy GM's to no end..
While I have to agree, I still believe Slaton whom I own in zero leagues, is the most talented guy of that trio and it's not really close. Same time, you can't hang on to the ball in the NFL you'll see that famous acronym Parcells loved to throw around emerge:N ot

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Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.

Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
I never understood why Moats never seems to get a shot for more carries. I don't have hard evidence, but I remember him producing when given a chance in PHI. Bad blocking skills? I would not consider Slaton a "big time talent....big time". He is a running back that has proven he can play in this league, and even be explosive at times. I think him adding weight this offseason has hurt what made him productive last year.
He had one big game in Philly. Ironically he had issues holding onto the ball (I believe he only has 3-4 fumbles, but IIRC he put it on the carpet a lot more than that and it was always recovered by the Birds.) Either way, he is not the talent that Slaton is, especially in the passing game. With ODaniels out they can not afford to keep Slaton off the field. I am not really worried (apart from him fumbling again) that he won't get touches. I could see slaton still ending up with 100 total yards and a TD this week.
 
Agreed.

He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.

Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
Slaton's not a "big time talent.....big time". He had a phenomenal year last year, yes, but he's having an abysmal year this year. He hasn't proven enough on the field to rise above "flash in the pan" status. Also, Moats hasn't "floated around", he was in Philly stuck behind Brian Westbrook (who's pretty good) and Correll Buckhalter (who, as we're seeing this year, is pretty good). Slaton was the 89th overall draft pick. Moats was the 77th. As someone said, Moats unseating Slaton isn't really a Sproles unseating Tomlinson type upset, here.
Listen....I am not saying Moats is a bad player....I liked him coming out of college...but i also loved Steve Slaton as a Jr in West Virginia....and he was a STUD. He suffered from a poor SR season (not unheard of for many future studs who slipped into the later rounds of drafts). He exploded on the scene last year...and yes he without question got off to a slow start this year...but the past 2 games before the buffalo benching he was showing why he is a big time talent. Very few backs in this league have the ability to slash and fly to the house like Slaton. It is for that reason he will continue to get his touches this week and have the opportunity to show again why he deserves to be the lead back in this offense. Those that do not believe in his talent....fine don't believe in it. But he is a dynamic back who fit's this system perfectly.
 
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am I the only one thinking last week was the wake-up call for Slaton?

seriously though, Moats just makes 1/3rd of the biggest RB trifecta in the NFL -Moats, Slaton, Brown.

good luck with it, seems worse than the NE quartet of Morris, Maroney, Law Firm, Faulk

this week's stud is next week's bust..

and you'll forever be chasing fantasy pts as they switch it up in Houston,frustrating fantasy GM's to no end..
While I have to agree, I still believe Slaton whom I own in zero leagues, is the most talented guy of that trio and it's not really close. Same time, you can't hang on to the ball in the NFL you'll see that famous acronym Parcells loved to throw around emerge:N ot

F or

L ong
Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.

Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
I never understood why Moats never seems to get a shot for more carries. I don't have hard evidence, but I remember him producing when given a chance in PHI. Bad blocking skills? I would not consider Slaton a "big time talent....big time". He is a running back that has proven he can play in this league, and even be explosive at times. I think him adding weight this offseason has hurt what made him productive last year.
He had one big game in Philly. Ironically he had issues holding onto the ball (I believe he only has 3-4 fumbles, but IIRC he put it on the carpet a lot more than that and it was always recovered by the Birds.) Either way, he is not the talent that Slaton is, especially in the passing game. With ODaniels out they can not afford to keep Slaton off the field. I am not really worried (apart from him fumbling again) that he won't get touches. I could see slaton still ending up with 100 total yards and a TD this week.
You dont recall correctly. Moats put the ball on the ground 3 times total as a rookie and lost 1 to the defense. Those are the only fumbles of his career albeit with limited touches.
 
Gary Kubiak worked under Mike Shanahan in Denver. I could see this situation remaining murky for the remainder of the year.
Situations become murky when there is not a guy who can differentiate himself from others on the team.
Exactly. This myth that Shanahan's RB situation was always murky is just that...a myth. When he had a horse who proved he could handle the load, Shanny always rode him. Terrell Davis? Clinton Portis?
I don't think Moats or Slaton fit in this category.
Obviously. :P I was just addressing the Shanahan angle. Given Slaton's explosiveness, if he could prove that he could run well between the tackles and not fumble, the other RBs would have a tough time getting on the field.
:bag: Sorry, I figured we were on the same page. But ya never know.
 
Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
Slaton's not a "big time talent.....big time". He had a phenomenal year last year, yes, but he's having an abysmal year this year. He hasn't proven enough on the field to rise above "flash in the pan" status. Also, Moats hasn't "floated around", he was in Philly stuck behind Brian Westbrook (who's pretty good) and Correll Buckhalter (who, as we're seeing this year, is pretty good). Slaton was the 89th overall draft pick. Moats was the 77th. As someone said, Moats unseating Slaton isn't really a Sproles unseating Tomlinson type upset, here.
:goodposting:
 
Anyone else notice that unckeyherb and Todem both own Slaton?just sayin
And this is where I chime in and say that most people aren't high on the players they own, they own the players they're high on. Correlation does not imply causation.
 
moats actually put up back-to-back good games in his rookie year for the eagles, going for 110 plus 2 TDs against the Giants and 78 (i think) plus a touch against the Rams. I liked him a lot at that point.

 
moats actually put up back-to-back good games in his rookie year for the eagles, going for 110 plus 2 TDs against the Giants and 78 (i think) plus a touch against the Rams. I liked him a lot at that point.
The knock on him was that he could not learn the playbook. That is speculation albeit from objective local sources. He was also the single worst blocker in pass protection that I've ever seen & that's not hyperbole...he was terrible & that kept him off the field (as well as an annoying tendency to try & bounce everything outside). It worked twice against the Giants, when no one had any game tape on him & that's about it. He seemed like a real good guy & like he was willing to put in the work. The blocking & pass pro issues plague many a rookie back; & are correctable. The ability to process & retain what, by all accounts is an extensive & complex playbook, not so much. That's supposedly what did him in. I'm glad he's found a home & been able to produce, seemed like a good person. I'll be pulling for him.
 
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I think you can make a reasonable case for Moats:

-The pros though he was talented enough to be drafted in the 3rd round despite coming from a smaller school and being 5'8"

-As a rookie he struggled with the things that rookies often struggle with

-He was stuck behind an all-pro back who's a perfect fit for his team's offensive system

-He blew his knee and was then cut before the season when he came back

-In his limited action he's got a 4.4 ypc, a TD every 20 touches and catches the ball well

I'm not saying he's going to pan out, just that it's not an unreasonable position.

 
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Wasn't Slaton drafted to be a 3rd down back anyways??So really, we shouldn't be shocked his game falls aprt under over-use.
I don't believe the Texans believe Slaton's issue is workload. His issue is focus/concentration. When the coach says all week and for several weeks prior that you need to hang onto the football and you fumble on your first touch you are going to eventually get a seat. I believe that Houston wants to use Slatons big play ability and his great receiving skills but I believe they are going to really cut his touches over the next couple of weeks and make him prove he is ready to focus on eliminating those fumbles. If he hangs onto the ball over the next couple of weeks he will once again be the main guy. If he keeps fumbling or Moats stays hot he just may not get the bulk of the carries.It's all about him hanging onto the football and has nothing to do with being over used. I don't think he was too overworked on his first touch last week.
 
Agreed.

He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.

Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
Slaton's not a "big time talent.....big time". He had a phenomenal year last year, yes, but he's having an abysmal year this year. He hasn't proven enough on the field to rise above "flash in the pan" status. Also, Moats hasn't "floated around", he was in Philly stuck behind Brian Westbrook (who's pretty good) and Correll Buckhalter (who, as we're seeing this year, is pretty good). Slaton was the 89th overall draft pick. Moats was the 77th. As someone said, Moats unseating Slaton isn't really a Sproles unseating Tomlinson type upset, here.
This.Also I will add that my buddy works for the Texans (administrative) and he said "Moats is starting the game." Take it for what it's worth.

 
Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
Slaton's not a "big time talent.....big time". He had a phenomenal year last year, yes, but he's having an abysmal year this year. He hasn't proven enough on the field to rise above "flash in the pan" status. Also, Moats hasn't "floated around", he was in Philly stuck behind Brian Westbrook (who's pretty good) and Correll Buckhalter (who, as we're seeing this year, is pretty good). Slaton was the 89th overall draft pick. Moats was the 77th. As someone said, Moats unseating Slaton isn't really a Sproles unseating Tomlinson type upset, here.
Don't get caught up on his rushing numbers, if Slaton can fix his fumbling issues he's on pace for 1300 total yards and 10 TDs this year. Not exactly flash in the pan. I imagine he gets back on track and resolves his issues after the bye.
 
rolling with moats. figure he's worth a shot. if he sucks, it cost me one week and one move. good starting RBs are hard to find. gotta take a flier once in a while.

 
Agreed.He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
Slaton's not a "big time talent.....big time". He had a phenomenal year last year, yes, but he's having an abysmal year this year. He hasn't proven enough on the field to rise above "flash in the pan" status. Also, Moats hasn't "floated around", he was in Philly stuck behind Brian Westbrook (who's pretty good) and Correll Buckhalter (who, as we're seeing this year, is pretty good). Slaton was the 89th overall draft pick. Moats was the 77th. As someone said, Moats unseating Slaton isn't really a Sproles unseating Tomlinson type upset, here.
Don't get caught up on his rushing numbers, if Slaton can fix his fumbling issues he's on pace for 1300 total yards and 10 TDs this year. Not exactly flash in the pan. I imagine he gets back on track and resolves his issues after the bye.
Fair enough, but 3.11 y/c isn't getting it done. Granted, that's the same as FWP, Lynch, Kevin Smith and McFadden but which of those guys is a lock to keep starting? (Smith is, but perhaps by default?) Further, aside from FWP which of those is playing on a good offense?
 
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Agreed.

He must cure his fumbling woes though.....must. I find it amazing how many haters there are of Slaton....who last season was amazing...and this year that line until the Bills game has underperformed badly in the run blocking department. Slaton had been coming on strong prior to his benching last week.

Slaton is a big time talent.....big time. Moats......meh...the guy has floated around and has one career game and everyone is on the bandwagon.
Slaton's not a "big time talent.....big time". He had a phenomenal year last year, yes, but he's having an abysmal year this year. He hasn't proven enough on the field to rise above "flash in the pan" status. Also, Moats hasn't "floated around", he was in Philly stuck behind Brian Westbrook (who's pretty good) and Correll Buckhalter (who, as we're seeing this year, is pretty good). Slaton was the 89th overall draft pick. Moats was the 77th. As someone said, Moats unseating Slaton isn't really a Sproles unseating Tomlinson type upset, here.
This.Also I will add that my buddy works for the Texans (administrative) and he said "Moats is starting the game." Take it for what it's worth.
VoilaRyan Moats will start at running back for the Texans Sunday, according to ESPN's Bob Holzman.http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

 
Don't get caught up on his rushing numbers, if Slaton can fix his fumbling issues he's on pace for 1300 total yards and 10 TDs this year. Not exactly flash in the pan. I imagine he gets back on track and resolves his issues after the bye.
Okay, but when a RB is having fumbling problems this severe, he can sometimes be so focused on not fumbling and protecting the ball, that it takes away from their aggressiveness in running the ball, and Slaton wasn't being that productive this year, anyway. For example, when a RB goes into the line, instead of being focused on hitting the hole for a possible good gain, he sometimes gets overly worried about not fumbling the ball, and in the NFL, that hesitation and/or uncertainty can be a killer, and before you know it, you are on the ground for a no gain.
 
Don't get caught up on his rushing numbers, if Slaton can fix his fumbling issues he's on pace for 1300 total yards and 10 TDs this year. Not exactly flash in the pan. I imagine he gets back on track and resolves his issues after the bye.
I'm not getting caught up on his rushing numbers. I'm getting caught up on how awful he's looked this year.
 

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