Ministry of Pain
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It's looking more and more likely...discuss.
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What if Indy and New Orleans go undefeated, meet in the Super Bowl? (1 Viewer)
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Before the season I picked all the games through the playoffs and I had Indy and GB with GB beating NO in the Championship.
I always thought NO was just a few D players away from going.
Right now straight up I give the edge to the Saints in that game simply b/c NO can run the ball better, but I'd never, ever bet against Peyton.
I always thought NO was just a few D players away from going.
Right now straight up I give the edge to the Saints in that game simply b/c NO can run the ball better, but I'd never, ever bet against Peyton.
Abraham
Footballguy
I don't thinks its looking more and more likely at all. The Colts aren't in the clear yet on a 16-0 season and I don't care for the Saints matchup with Minnesota enough to even entertain the notion they'll make the SB.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
If you were to ask me to write down who I think wins in the NFC I would say the Vikings but its hard to argue agianst the Saints right now.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I think the "Bettis is from Detroit" story would like a molehill.
Jerry Lawler
Footballguy
Can't help mentioning that the Colts have a couple of tough games and would probably have to pursue 16-0 with Jim Sorgi under center for the last few games.
BUT - It would make for an incredible Super Bowl if it happens. If the Saints can't get a big lead on the Colts, they would probably have a tough time winning a close game because the Colts have made a habit out of winning games they shouldn't by coming up with big 4th quarter plays on both sides. I'm guessing the Colts win, mostly because Brees won't see anything like Freeney and Mathis in the NFC.
BUT - It would make for an incredible Super Bowl if it happens. If the Saints can't get a big lead on the Colts, they would probably have a tough time winning a close game because the Colts have made a habit out of winning games they shouldn't by coming up with big 4th quarter plays on both sides. I'm guessing the Colts win, mostly because Brees won't see anything like Freeney and Mathis in the NFC.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
then one team will go undefeated and the other wont 
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I don't see the Colts running the table. They'll have the #1 seed locked up early on, and will sit their stars in the last few weeks.
The Saints could very well run the table in the regular season, but in the Vikings they look to have a tougher conference opponent than the Colts do. The best chance for the Saints may well be to have Favre revert to gunslinging and blow a playoff game for the Vikings.
It would be awesome if two 18-0 teams met, but it's a very, very long shot.
The Saints could very well run the table in the regular season, but in the Vikings they look to have a tougher conference opponent than the Colts do. The best chance for the Saints may well be to have Favre revert to gunslinging and blow a playoff game for the Vikings.
It would be awesome if two 18-0 teams met, but it's a very, very long shot.
mystykoekaki
Footballguy
I'm not a fan of this.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
It would be the best SB on paper in the history of the game.I think the Saints have a much better shot to go undefeated than the Colts do.I don't think Dallas has much of a chance to win in NO. I think the toughest game the Saints have left is in Atlanta. With Ryan and Turner dinged up, that game doesn't even look that hard now. With Minny on their heals, they won't be resting players or have to worry about that line of thinking.Saints look to me like a team on a mission.
ChargersOH
Footballguy
As good as Brees is playing, I doubt Freeney and Mathis would stop him. They'll get a few sacks, but as mediocre as Indy's secondary is, Brees would torch them.The problem is Manning would also torch N.O.Man, that'd be a fun Super Bowl.I prefer the Chargers beating Indy <again!> and meeting N.O. though! I have to root for my boys, but I think every S.D. fan in the back of their mind is cheering Brees on.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't think Manning would torch NO. Indy's passing game is no better than NE's and NO shut them down. They would pressure Manning and make him throw on the run and he'd end up throwing INT's just like we've seen him do before and like we saw Brady do today.The only way to slow down the Saints is to put constant pressure on Brees and I just haven't seen anyone do it this year. The guy isn't superman, he can make mistakes just like Brady and Manning can, but pressure needs to be applied. Brady was under duress just about all night, he was never comfortable and it showed in his accuracy. You have to do the same with Brees. You give any of these guys time, it's lights out and right now, the Saints are doing the best job of giving their QB time to throw and also doing a good job of putting pressure on opposing Qb's.With that said, tonights game was in NO and that was a big advantage for their D versus NE O. Still, NO played in Philly earlier this year and destroyed them. To me, there's just no getting around the fact that NO is the real deal.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Farve will not win in the Super Dome. you can quote me on this. The Vikings only chance is if the Saints slip up and lose home field. This is why you will not see either the Saints or Vikings quit dominating the score boards until the end of the season. It will come down to this IMO. Saints take care of business and dont give the Vikings an in then game over for the Vikes.
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Hoart Petterson
Footballguy
What would the line be? I'd guess NO -1.
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
The Colts would have a much better shot than the Patriots as they matchup better.
The speed of the Colts D matches up better vs the Saints than NE. The Saints defense would have no answer for Dallas Clark as the Saints LBs (outside of Vilma) are one of the slower groups in the league whereas the Saints are better equipped to defend the Pats superior WR corp.
The speed of the Colts D matches up better vs the Saints than NE. The Saints defense would have no answer for Dallas Clark as the Saints LBs (outside of Vilma) are one of the slower groups in the league whereas the Saints are better equipped to defend the Pats superior WR corp.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Just so I have this straight, the Saints would get all sorts of pressure on Manning (one of the least pressured QBs of the last 10 years), but the Colts would not be able to get pressure on Brees (even though the Colts are one of the top teams ion the league regarding sacks)? Got it.
I was just telling someone about this a couple days ago, would love to see this Super Bowl happen so we can stop hearing about the '72 Dolphins already...too bad it's not gonna happen. If it did though it could be hyped as the "greatest" matchup of all-time with the stakes never being any higher for any game ever in the NFL.
editor47
Footballguy
jim sorgi will not start a single game for the colts unless manning gets hurt. he may play more than manning in week 17, but i seriously doubt he starts.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Manning has a consecutive start streak to worry about.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I know what would happen...with 2 undefeated teams in the Super Bowl...there will be incredible hype.,..the anticipation will be unlike any sporting event in our lifetime.
Then gameday gets here...we are all excited.
Then one of the teams blows the other team out. The game is over in the first quarter.
Then gameday gets here...we are all excited.
Then one of the teams blows the other team out. The game is over in the first quarter.
Jerry Lawler
Footballguy
didn't mean to imply that Sorgi would start, but that he would be playing the majority of snaps. The point is the same as others have made: the Colts will be resting key players down the stretch if they win their next few games.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
ESPN would explode
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
They would still manage to talk about Farve even with Indy and the Saints playing in an undefeated Superbowl.
drfeelgood
Footballguy
Sure he could.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Could but wont. Brett Farve has played below his abilities every time I have seen him face the Saints in the Super Dome. Besides the Saints are likely to have their full compliment of corners back for that game plus the added depth of McKenzie and McAllister. ADP will make it a game but the Saints home field advantage will be too great for them to overcome IMO.
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SuperJohn96
RPS World Champion
Then they'd BOTH still be undefeated.
metoo
Footballguy
I don't see this happening, the Colts won't let off the gas. Sorgi may play in the 4th quarter in week 17 but that's it.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Agreed. There's no way Peyton sits with 16-0 still on the table. These guys are competitors, you don't think Peyton knows what Brady did a couple years ago? As much as they say they have a fraternity of QB's, any QB on the planet would want that record if it presents itself an opportunity. Manning will see this thru until they lose. What would the over/under be in a NO/Ind Super Bowl? 70????
It would be the single greateset sporting event ever if both teams come in 18-0.
metoo
Footballguy
Manning has done a great job building up his young receivers. This season Manning, Wayne, Clark, Garcon and Collie have outplayed Brady, Moss, Welker, Aiken and Graham.drfeelgood
Footballguy
The Vikings D isn't too shabby. I think Favre would fair just fine in the Super Dome if the Vikings end up playing there.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
harryhood
Footballguy
I agree here too. That defensive front is just unreal.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
well, we can almost bank on Manning choking in the playoffs , once again
..so I'm not so quick to put the Colts in the SB..I still don't think they can beat the Patriots if they had to do it all over ..the Ravens will give them a run for their money, they can't beat the Chargers either..see last year's playoff stinger..Manning and the Colts have been one-n-done, too many times..This isn't going to come down the "Miracle of Bob Sanders " ala him suddenly re-appearing to bolster the defense..
Manning for all his greatness, has a losing post season record..now I know he's an all-time great, but when you go to the post season as many times as he does, and when you're the #1 seed as many times as they've been,you eventually need to win more than just 1 SB..heck,I'd even take heed if he made it back to the SB and lost, but at least get there again..
once bitten.twice shy with Manning and the Colts..unless/until they shed those playoff demons, they'll always have a
'yeah, but.....'
I'm more inclinded to put a team in there that is the 'hot' team, like NYG in 2007, Az in 2008..
Cincy, Balt look good, but SD looks unstoppable, IMO..
Great argument.bushisdaman said:
Favre has played at NO 3 times and is 2-1. He is 3-1 at the Superdome if you count the Superbowl he won there. I guess you only saw the last time he played there which was in 2002. FYI - all of those games are completely irrelevant to this year. I don't think Favre is up at night wondering if he will fall victim to the curse he has at the Superdome.The Saint/Vikes would be a great game and I half hope I see it and half hope the Saint slip up elsewhere in the playoffs and the Vikes don't.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This poster is saying something people keep mising. The Dome is a HUGE home field advantage. The noise levels are very, very high and there is plenty of disruption. The fans are willing this team towards wins.Having said that Favre has a great record in the Dome. He's practically a local boy - just like Manning, though way up the road in Mississippi. The irony here is incredible. The Saints finally have a near perfect season and their path is blocked by two local favorites, Favre and Manning.bushisdaman said:
And Manning and the Colts dismantled and figured out the Saints in the 2007 NFL opener, albeit in Indy.
If the Seahawks had slipped by the Bears (they lost by 3 points) the Saints would have had the Bears in the Dome in 2006 and the Saints would have played the Colts in the Super Bowl after 2006.
I really don't want Manning playing the Saints; the rest of the country would love it, but I want him and the Colts out of the picture. Same with Favre - somehow, some way I am hoping the Bad Brett shows up, either he tears a muscle and plays through it like he did in NY or he puts up some bad throws before he ever sees teh Saints.
Personally I'd like a clear path for the Saints, fantastic matchups be damned.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Really? I remember a game where the Saints had the Pack dead to rights and Favre pulled a deep bomb out his backend, throwing across his body and the whole field deep, an incredible pass, to pull out a win.bushisdaman said:
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culdeus
Footballguy
are you high?
culdeus
Footballguy
Farve doesn't exactly have a big playoff rating either, but damn if I can find a good website to look this up. Where did you get that info? Can you post Farve's?
What is wrong with that line? There is no way that line is going to be higher than 3. Am I missing something?I really think the NFC champ will be whoever has homefield advantage. I don't think either the Vikings or Saints have much of a chance at losing before the NFC championship. There rest of the NFC is a notch or two below these two teams.
