Great Work Cecil!Cecil Lammey said:
political views have alot to do with football.i hope you like working for that liberal rag, cecil....
Credit here goes to Chase Stuart, who was already contributing to this blog I believe through his connection with Doug Drinen's outstanding pro-football-reference blog. Chase got us hooked up with Toni Monkovic, who wanted some draft content in April, and we were happy to oblige!cecil how did you and bloom writing for the nytimes come about? did they approach you?
political views have alot to do with football.i hope you like working for that liberal rag, cecil....ETA: thanks for the heads up cecil, always a good read and even better insight.
Cecil Lammey said:
Sounds like a great guy & teammate. But if we're talking FF, that's not really what I want to hear about a WR. How deep of a roster would you want to have before stashing this guy, Cecil?White knows how to come back to the football and square up to his quarterback, giving him the biggest possible target. He hates to drop passes, and is a natural hands catcher. He has good ball-tracking ability on deep passes, and knows subtle moves to gain separation downfield against tight coverage. Because of his body control, he is a sharp route runner who does not give his route away before his break. White is a tough player who is not afraid to go over the middle, secure a pass and take a hit. He had a great performance at the combine and at his pro day, where he proved to scouts that he is a sub-4.5 receiver. He can help out on special teams at the next level, and is a very intelligent player who understands what a defense is trying to do.
Very, very deep. His upside is like that of a Davone Bess, could be a WR3 in PPR but won't be a difference maker. If he goes to a team with an elite passing offense (a la Austin Collie) he becomes a more interesting guy to target.I'm still very skeptical about him because of his lack of production in school, he seemed to step up when the pressure was off but when the pressure was on he was nowhere to be found more often than not.Cecil Lammey said:Sounds like a great guy & teammate. But if we're talking FF, that's not really what I want to hear about a WR. How deep of a roster would you want to have before stashing this guy, Cecil?White knows how to come back to the football and square up to his quarterback, giving him the biggest possible target. He hates to drop passes, and is a natural hands catcher. He has good ball-tracking ability on deep passes, and knows subtle moves to gain separation downfield against tight coverage. Because of his body control, he is a sharp route runner who does not give his route away before his break. White is a tough player who is not afraid to go over the middle, secure a pass and take a hit. He had a great performance at the combine and at his pro day, where he proved to scouts that he is a sub-4.5 receiver. He can help out on special teams at the next level, and is a very intelligent player who understands what a defense is trying to do.
not a doubt in the world this nickname is already written down in a berman notebook somewhere..which is why i will be watching the NFL Network's coverage. berman is just brutal.I like Blair White as a sleeper WR, however, I'm not looking forward to hearing Chris Berman refer to him as The Blair White Project.
Cecil Lammey said:
You can always watch me and Russ Lande from the Sporting News, streaming on your computer on both Thursday and Friday night! http://gmjrnfldraft.comnot a doubt in the world this nickname is already written down in a berman notebook somewhere..which is why i will be watching the NFL Network's coverage. berman is just brutal.I like Blair White as a sleeper WR, however, I'm not looking forward to hearing Chris Berman refer to him as The Blair White Project.
Why do you think he will be "nothing substantial" ? Is this based on opportunity ? I think he definitely has the talent to be a difference maker.When Pierre is ready the Colts will put him out wide right in three receiver sets. Maybe there is enough time for White to supplant Gonzalez as the #4, while he recovers, again.If any one of Wayne/Collie/Garcon misses any time, than White has some potential, nothing substantial, but suffices as a fill-in. He already proved it last Sunday by allowing Peyton to gain trust in him.
I was wondering this as well.Just noticed that Collie was limited in practice and Garcon missed another practice Thursday.I'm guessing Collie will play Sunday. But if he doesn't, how valuable would BW be against the Jags' defense if he only has to compete with Wayne and Clark (and the RBs) for targets?
In PPR, in this scenario, I'm thinking BW might be a one-week super sleeper.But it's probably a moot point because Collie's ailment probably isn't serious.I was wondering this as well.Just noticed that Collie was limited in practice and Garcon missed another practice Thursday.I'm guessing Collie will play Sunday. But if he doesn't, how valuable would BW be against the Jags' defense if he only has to compete with Wayne and Clark (and the RBs) for targets?
I think opportunity has a lot to do with it because there just isn't any more room for a difference-maker on the Colts roster. Blair has upside, but his skill is not on the same level as Collie. Remember Austin led the nation in receiving yardage at BYU. Just don't expect 150+ yds. and multiple td's out of Blair. If he plays I suspect 50 yds and an occasional td might be his ceiling.Also. The Colts signed Chris Brooks to their practice squad. If Garcon misses again, there is a good chance this kid would fill-in as the #4. Taj Smith is another player the Colts might consider if Garcon's injury lingers.Casting Couch said:Why do you think he will be "nothing substantial" ? Is this based on opportunity ? I think he definitely has the talent to be a difference maker.When Pierre is ready the Colts will put him out wide right in three receiver sets. Maybe there is enough time for White to supplant Gonzalez as the #4, while he recovers, again.If any one of Wayne/Collie/Garcon misses any time, than White has some potential, nothing substantial, but suffices as a fill-in. He already proved it last Sunday by allowing Peyton to gain trust in him.
I guess I'm looking at this kid as more of a sharky dyno stash as opposed to someone who will step into your lineup and produce this Sunday.I think opportunity has a lot to do with it because there just isn't any more room for a difference-maker on the Colts roster. Blair has upside, but his skill is not on the same level as Collie. Remember Austin led the nation in receiving yardage at BYU. Just don't expect 150+ yds. and multiple td's out of Blair. If he plays I suspect 50 yds and an occasional td might be his ceiling.Also. The Colts signed Chris Brooks to their practice squad. If Garcon misses again, there is a good chance this kid would fill-in as the #4. Taj Smith is another player the Colts might consider if Garcon's injury lingers.Casting Couch said:Why do you think he will be "nothing substantial" ? Is this based on opportunity ? I think he definitely has the talent to be a difference maker.When Pierre is ready the Colts will put him out wide right in three receiver sets. Maybe there is enough time for White to supplant Gonzalez as the #4, while he recovers, again.If any one of Wayne/Collie/Garcon misses any time, than White has some potential, nothing substantial, but suffices as a fill-in. He already proved it last Sunday by allowing Peyton to gain trust in him.
gary mexico said:Anyone going with the Blair White Project this week?
That's not what your girl friend said.Righetti said:this guy sounds like a Golden Girl
I'd agree with you, but it seems the only WR's not dealing with some kind of injury are Wayne, Clark, and Blair White. Gonzo has his problems, Garcon has a hammy issue and probably won't play this week, and now Collie has shown up on the report with a heel problem.Bri said:They should really move some WRs and get some defensive help at safety so they're not so reliant upon Bob.I don't see how this kid plays enough to warrant your attention in redraft and in dynasty it bugs me because the other WRs aren't exactly old. With the awesome Dallas Clark (and their other TEs looking good in preseason), the Colts could trade four WRs and still be OK so whats the big deal with trading one WR?
He's a starting WR for the Colts this week @ JAX. Garcon and Gonzalez will not play. Not sure how you can say no short term value. Collie also has a heal injury he's dealing with and will be getting a lot of attention since he blew up last week. Wayne and Clark will also be drawing a lot of attention from the JAX secondary which means Blair White will be the open guy and that's where Manning always goes with the ball - the open guy.And long term, Garcon has a hammy and those can be tricky. He has also had his fair of drops so I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of Blair White simply beating Garcon out for the job (injury aside). And if Blair White can impress enough to lock down the job, he could keep it away from Gonzalez too (and he'll have plenty of time to show his stuff b/c Gonzo will be out another few weeks at least).It's obviously a long shot for the LONG TERM but I think he's worth a roster spot. When you're talking about a WR who's one injury away from starting in Peyton Manning's offense, then you're talking value - short and long term.Cmon guys ..You have to be in big trouble to pick up the 5th or 6th or 7th option on the Colts ..No value here long or short term , just because he caught a TD everyone is excited ...
Looks to be the 5th option for a good offense which is what Collie was in week 1 that turned out pretty goodCmon guys ..You have to be in big trouble to pick up the 5th or 6th or 7th option on the Colts ..No value here long or short term , just because he caught a TD everyone is excited ...
FWIW, Mel Kiper Jr. had White as his top undrafted talent after the April draft.
Talent + opportunity + Peyton Manning = $$$
Merged.He's worth a look this week.IMO Blair is not worthy of two threads yet....
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I'd say that there are several players that have talent but lack opportunity (like Tashard Choice).I'd say that there are also several players that have opportunity but lack talent (any WR2 option these days in Carolina).FWIW, Mel Kiper Jr. had White as his top undrafted talent after the April draft.
Talent + opportunity + Peyton Manning = $$$Pretty basic equation there Jeff but thats really all there is to it for fantasy football talent + situation. In this case situation = Manning + opportunity
Does anyone know whether White will be starting tomorrow? How much PT do you think he gets?6 Targets and a TD last week. One of those targets could have been a second TD. People were sleeping on this guy after last week, I have a feeling they won't be after this week. Collie, Garcon and Gonzalez are banged up along with Brown and Addai. This is a good situation for White right now.
Should be the same as lat week, if not more playing time for White. Garcon and Gonzo are still out. Collie has a heal injury and is listed as questionable so he could get less snaps. White could play as many snaps as a WR2 in that offense.Does anyone know whether White will be starting tomorrow? How much PT do you think he gets?6 Targets and a TD last week. One of those targets could have been a second TD. People were sleeping on this guy after last week, I have a feeling they won't be after this week. Collie, Garcon and Gonzalez are banged up along with Brown and Addai. This is a good situation for White right now.