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Anquan Boldin, WR, Baltimore Ravens (1 Viewer)

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He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.

 
I think we're going to see BALT move to be one of the top 5 or so heaviest pass-oriented offenses in the league this year. Boldin's health is going to be the biggest key, but barring that, I think this offense is perfectly suited for him to produce in.

93 catches, 1282 yards, 11 TDs

 
Agreed

Boldin is going to be the go-to-guy in this offence and he has great catching ability.

I see 95 receptions 1300 yards but lower end on the TD's - around 8 or so.

 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB) and I just don't see them highlighting Boldin/Mason over Rice/McGahee/McClain. I also agree with Garp in that the bond between Mason and Flacco is pretty tight and when push comes to shove and a 300 lb man is running at you, instinct takes over and Mason will be getting the ball. I project 14 games played, 75 recepetions 879 yards and 7 TDs.

 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB) and I just don't see them highlighting Boldin/Mason over Rice/McGahee/McClain. I also agree with Garp in that the bond between Mason and Flacco is pretty tight and when push comes to shove and a 300 lb man is running at you, instinct takes over and Mason will be getting the ball. I project 14 games played, 75 recepetions 879 yards and 7 TDs.
At some point, Mason's body will simply break down, a la Jimmy Smith/Torry Holt/Isaac Bruce, etc etc etc. He's an old man now. While I agree that Flacco and Mason's rapport shouldn't be ignored, at some point you also have to realize that one guy will be able to get open consistently, and at some point, the other will not.
 
Baltimore was one of the more balanced attacks last year as they had 510 pass attempts and 468 rush attempts. Boldin wasn't acquired for them to pass more often. He's there so they can pass more efficiently. I know it would buck the trend but I have a gut feeling that he plays all 16 games this year as this style of offense better fits his physical style.

Projections: 84/1070/8 for a PPR ranking of WR9

 
Flacco attemps:

2008: 428

2009: 499

With an improved Flacco and Boldin, I expect that to rise to 525.

Boldin will get about 130 targets (Mason had 128 last season), he caught 72% last year, that is almost 94 receptions. So I think it'll be about:

94 rec, 1225, 8 tds.

 
Flacco attemps:2008: 4282009: 499With an improved Flacco and Boldin, I expect that to rise to 525. Boldin will get about 130 targets (Mason had 128 last season), he caught 72% last year, that is almost 94 receptions. So I think it'll be about:94 rec, 1225, 8 tds.
Boldin had 128 targets last year and had 85 receptions for 1029 yards and 4 TD's. That was with Warner and a pretty efficient passing attack. Boldin whether it be for injury or other factos has not caught more than 89 balls since 2005. I would not start projecting something higher than that at this stage 5 years later on a new team.Boldin is a gritty WR and I think he is very underrated to the general fan. He is one of the better PPG WR's out there and I fee he will have a pretty good year. I would have to project him for about an 82 catch, 1120 yard season with 5 td's. Boldin's career ypc is low (12.8) due to the way he is used. I am projecting it to be at 13.7 this year with Baltimore which is generous considering they said they will use him a lot like Arizone did.
 
Flacco attemps:2008: 4282009: 499With an improved Flacco and Boldin, I expect that to rise to 525. Boldin will get about 130 targets (Mason had 128 last season), he caught 72% last year, that is almost 94 receptions. So I think it'll be about:94 rec, 1225, 8 tds.
Boldin had 128 targets last year and had 85 receptions for 1029 yards and 4 TD's. That was with Warner and a pretty efficient passing attack. Boldin whether it be for injury or other factos has not caught more than 89 balls since 2005. I would not start projecting something higher than that at this stage 5 years later on a new team.Boldin is a gritty WR and I think he is very underrated to the general fan. He is one of the better PPG WR's out there and I fee he will have a pretty good year. I would have to project him for about an 82 catch, 1120 yard season with 5 td's. Boldin's career ypc is low (12.8) due to the way he is used. I am projecting it to be at 13.7 this year with Baltimore which is generous considering they said they will use him a lot like Arizone did.
Per profootballfocus he had 118 targets. And remember, he should be the No. 1 in this offense.
 
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Targets may be there, but will his red zone looks be significant?

Last year Rice had 53 and McGahee had 33 red zone looks respectively.

Mason had 14.

Boldin has a better body/approach than Mason, but Baltimore is a team built to score on the ground.

80/1000/6

Edited: Changed targets "go up" to target "be there."

 
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Mason was all Flacco had so the rapport thing may be more out of sheer necessity than anything else. Boldin is a superior WR, he will be featured and targeted a lot. The thing that worries me the most is the injuries. He has to stay on the field to hit his potential.

Assuming he's healthy I see him as 90/1260/7.

 
Mason was all Flacco had so the rapport thing may be more out of sheer necessity than anything else. Boldin is a superior WR, he will be featured and targeted a lot. The thing that worries me the most is the injuries. He has to stay on the field to hit his potential.

Assuming he's healthy I see him as 90/1260/7.
this is kind of my thinking. that said, i think flacco is going to have more options than ever. now he has boldin, stallworth, mason, an emerging ray rice, and a couple of pass-catching TEs now. he can spread the wealth pretty easily if he wants. boldin will be moved around and certainly should be the #1WR in Baltimore but that might not translate into big FF numbers. i think it will be a situation similar to what the saints had going last year except that boldin is better than than colston. 75/915/10 tds.

 
Targets may be there, but will his red zone looks be significant? Last year Rice had 53 and McGahee had 33 red zone looks respectively. Mason had 14. Boldin has a better body/approach than Mason, but Baltimore is a team built to score on the ground. 80/1000/6Edited: Changed targets "go up" to target "be there."
These are probably the fairest projections. I think this is Boldin's middle ground - he may exceed or fall short of these numbers, but I wouldn't expect it to be be much on either end. I think his downside if probably in the 70-900-4 range, his upside in the 90-1150-9 range.
 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB) and I just don't see them highlighting Boldin/Mason over Rice/McGahee/McClain. I also agree with Garp in that the bond between Mason and Flacco is pretty tight and when push comes to shove and a 300 lb man is running at you, instinct takes over and Mason will be getting the ball. I project 14 games played, 75 recepetions 879 yards and 7 TDs.
At some point, Mason's body will simply break down, a la Jimmy Smith/Torry Holt/Isaac Bruce, etc etc etc. He's an old man now. While I agree that Flacco and Mason's rapport shouldn't be ignored, at some point you also have to realize that one guy will be able to get open consistently, and at some point, the other will not.
I agree, but usually this is determined gradually. Mason's numbers may reflect a sharp dropoff, but that does not mean that for a spell Flacco won't be trying to jam it in there. Also, I think you could make the argument that as far as "bodies" go, Boldin is about as old as Mason. Would not surprise me at all if he never plays a down as a 32 year old. While the recent trend shows WRs playing well into their 30s, it was just 10-15 years ago when guys like Herman Moore, Yancey Thigpen and Carl Pickens were toast by the time they hit 30.
 
Boldin will put up stud numbers as the go to guy.

Playing 16 games

87 receptions 1275 yards 11 TD's

 
Flacco attemps:2008: 4282009: 499With an improved Flacco and Boldin, I expect that to rise to 525. Boldin will get about 130 targets (Mason had 128 last season), he caught 72% last year, that is almost 94 receptions. So I think it'll be about:94 rec, 1225, 8 tds.
Boldin had 128 targets last year and had 85 receptions for 1029 yards and 4 TD's. That was with Warner and a pretty efficient passing attack. Boldin whether it be for injury or other factos has not caught more than 89 balls since 2005. I would not start projecting something higher than that at this stage 5 years later on a new team.Boldin is a gritty WR and I think he is very underrated to the general fan. He is one of the better PPG WR's out there and I fee he will have a pretty good year. I would have to project him for about an 82 catch, 1120 yard season with 5 td's. Boldin's career ypc is low (12.8) due to the way he is used. I am projecting it to be at 13.7 this year with Baltimore which is generous considering they said they will use him a lot like Arizone did.
so he doesnt have a good chance of catching a lot of balls because in 08 he only caught 89 ? ( While averaging 7.4 Catches per game !!!)flacco had good rapport with mason out of desperate necessity. boldin is going to be a beast on this team. i also expect him to be heavily utilized in the red zone where his prowess is underappreciated and mason just doesnt cut it at all.93/1180/10 in 14 games. Expect super elite #s if he actually manages to play a full season for once in his life.
 
Boldin will put up stud numbers as the go to guy.Playing 16 games87 receptions 1275 yards 11 TD's
You really think he'll average almost 15 YPR? His career average is a tad under 13 and he's average about 12 the past 3 seasons. IMO the only way boldin notches 1275 yards is if he catches 100 balls, and I don't see that happening. I see him the 80-90 reception range.
 
This thread has me convinced that I will not own Boldin this year, as chances are there will be at least one owner in every league who thinks he'll go 95/1300/12. Not saying it can't happen, but I'm not willing to pay for it on draft day.

 
Flacco attemps:2008: 4282009: 499With an improved Flacco and Boldin, I expect that to rise to 525. Boldin will get about 130 targets (Mason had 128 last season), he caught 72% last year, that is almost 94 receptions. So I think it'll be about:94 rec, 1225, 8 tds.
Boldin had 128 targets last year and had 85 receptions for 1029 yards and 4 TD's. That was with Warner and a pretty efficient passing attack. Boldin whether it be for injury or other factos has not caught more than 89 balls since 2005. I would not start projecting something higher than that at this stage 5 years later on a new team.Boldin is a gritty WR and I think he is very underrated to the general fan. He is one of the better PPG WR's out there and I fee he will have a pretty good year. I would have to project him for about an 82 catch, 1120 yard season with 5 td's. Boldin's career ypc is low (12.8) due to the way he is used. I am projecting it to be at 13.7 this year with Baltimore which is generous considering they said they will use him a lot like Arizone did.
so he doesnt have a good chance of catching a lot of balls because in 08 he only caught 89 ? ( While averaging 7.4 Catches per game !!!)flacco had good rapport with mason out of desperate necessity. boldin is going to be a beast on this team. i also expect him to be heavily utilized in the red zone where his prowess is underappreciated and mason just doesnt cut it at all.93/1180/10 in 14 games. Expect super elite #s if he actually manages to play a full season for once in his life.
You can project him to catch 90 plus balls but I will keep him at 82 as I don't feel confident enough to project Boldin to put up his best receptions year in the last 5 years.People are really reaching here to discredit Mason's ability to get open and get targets. Boldin is the number 1 but Mason's 103, 80 and 73 catches over the last 3 years although declining is still going to play a factor. Boldin is not going to get 140 plus targets with Mason, Stallworth, Rice in the mix.
 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB)
Like Pittsburgh and Chicago?Baltimore has been run heavy in recent history because they've had a great defense. That defense has been fading fast, and things don't really look to be improving much on that front.

 
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TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB) and I just don't see them highlighting Boldin/Mason over Rice/McGahee/McClain. I also agree with Garp in that the bond between Mason and Flacco is pretty tight and when push comes to shove and a 300 lb man is running at you, instinct takes over and Mason will be getting the ball. I project 14 games played, 75 recepetions 879 yards and 7 TDs.
At some point, Mason's body will simply break down, a la Jimmy Smith/Torry Holt/Isaac Bruce, etc etc etc. He's an old man now. While I agree that Flacco and Mason's rapport shouldn't be ignored, at some point you also have to realize that one guy will be able to get open consistently, and at some point, the other will not.
I agree, but usually this is determined gradually. Mason's numbers may reflect a sharp dropoff, but that does not mean that for a spell Flacco won't be trying to jam it in there. Also, I think you could make the argument that as far as "bodies" go, Boldin is about as old as Mason. Would not surprise me at all if he never plays a down as a 32 year old. While the recent trend shows WRs playing well into their 30s, it was just 10-15 years ago when guys like Herman Moore, Yancey Thigpen and Carl Pickens were toast by the time they hit 30.
Plenty of WRs who are old have fallen off cliffs rather than declining gradually (e.g., Jimmy Smith, Joey Galloway, Torry Holt). Mason, btw, is 36 years old. In other words, Boldin could play like he's 32, and he would still play 4 years younger than Mason.
 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB) and I just don't see them highlighting Boldin/Mason over Rice/McGahee/McClain. I also agree with Garp in that the bond between Mason and Flacco is pretty tight and when push comes to shove and a 300 lb man is running at you, instinct takes over and Mason will be getting the ball. I project 14 games played, 75 recepetions 879 yards and 7 TDs.
At some point, Mason's body will simply break down, a la Jimmy Smith/Torry Holt/Isaac Bruce, etc etc etc. He's an old man now. While I agree that Flacco and Mason's rapport shouldn't be ignored, at some point you also have to realize that one guy will be able to get open consistently, and at some point, the other will not.
I agree, but usually this is determined gradually. Mason's numbers may reflect a sharp dropoff, but that does not mean that for a spell Flacco won't be trying to jam it in there. Also, I think you could make the argument that as far as "bodies" go, Boldin is about as old as Mason. Would not surprise me at all if he never plays a down as a 32 year old. While the recent trend shows WRs playing well into their 30s, it was just 10-15 years ago when guys like Herman Moore, Yancey Thigpen and Carl Pickens were toast by the time they hit 30.
Plenty of WRs who are old have fallen off cliffs rather than declining gradually (e.g., Jimmy Smith, Joey Galloway, Torry Holt). Mason, btw, is 36 years old. In other words, Boldin could play like he's 32, and he would still play 4 years younger than Mason.
True, but bear in mind that Boldin has missed more games in his career than Mason has. Mason hasn't missed a game in the last 7 seasons.
 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB)
Like Pittsburgh and Chicago?Baltimore has been run heavy in recent history because they've had a great defense. That defense has been fading fast, and things don't really look to be improving much on that front.
Which could also be an argument for them to run more, so they can keep that "fading" defense off the field as much as possible.I expect them to pass a little more than last year, but I don't expect a massive transformation. One poster said a top 5 heaviest pass-oriented offense, which I just don't see at all. They had success running the ball, they made the playoffs and beat the Pats while attempting 10 passes in the wild-card round, I don't think they want to scrap that altogether and start chucking it all over the field.

I'd guess 85/1050/9 TDs.

 
This thread has me convinced that I will not own Boldin this year, as chances are there will be at least one owner in every league who thinks he'll go 95/1300/12. Not saying it can't happen, but I'm not willing to pay for it on draft day.
I'm thinking the same thing, especially in an auction league. Boldin is exactly the kind of player that can spark a bidding war. I'm not saying that he'll be a bust, but I don't see his ceiling as being high enough to be worth going nuts over him.
 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB)
Like Pittsburgh and Chicago?Baltimore has been run heavy in recent history because they've had a great defense. That defense has been fading fast, and things don't really look to be improving much on that front.
Which could also be an argument for them to run more, so they can keep that "fading" defense off the field as much as possible.I expect them to pass a little more than last year, but I don't expect a massive transformation. One poster said a top 5 heaviest pass-oriented offense, which I just don't see at all. They had success running the ball, they made the playoffs and beat the Pats while attempting 10 passes in the wild-card round, I don't think they want to scrap that altogether and start chucking it all over the field.

I'd guess 85/1050/9 TDs.
I said that. Heres my reasoning:

1) Look at how Baltimore is changing their personnel (+Boldin, +Stallworth, +2 spead TEs in Dickson and Pitta, possibly replacing Gaither with Cousins). Seems to suggest they will be running alot more spread.

2) Flacco was throwing the ball all over the field last year before injuries ravaged him.

3) The Ravens' D has the potential to be terrible at stopping the pass...they've got 1 CB that should be on an NFL roster in Foxworth, and Reed's commitment and ability are (in my mind) a question after an offseason filled with surgery and retirement talk.

 
TS Garp said:
He's a great addition for the Ravens, but I think his fantasy value will take a bit of a dip. Flacco has a great rapport with Mason, and, while the Ravens are saying that they'll throw more, I won't necessarily believe it until I see it. I think Boldin will go too high in most leagues -- don't forget that he's often banged up.

15 games:

71 catches, 901 yards, 8 td's.
I don't think this can be overlooked. Over the years I have seen run-based teams makes upgrades in the passing game (and vice versa) and say they are going to change the way they do things. Teams tend to stay to what they know (especially when they have an established offense and QB)
Like Pittsburgh and Chicago?Baltimore has been run heavy in recent history because they've had a great defense. That defense has been fading fast, and things don't really look to be improving much on that front.
Which could also be an argument for them to run more, so they can keep that "fading" defense off the field as much as possible.I expect them to pass a little more than last year, but I don't expect a massive transformation. One poster said a top 5 heaviest pass-oriented offense, which I just don't see at all. They had success running the ball, they made the playoffs and beat the Pats while attempting 10 passes in the wild-card round, I don't think they want to scrap that altogether and start chucking it all over the field.

I'd guess 85/1050/9 TDs.
I said that. Heres my reasoning:

1) Look at how Baltimore is changing their personnel (+Boldin, +Stallworth, +2 spead TEs in Dickson and Pitta, possibly replacing Gaither with Cousins). Seems to suggest they will be running alot more spread.

2) Flacco was throwing the ball all over the field last year before injuries ravaged him.

3) The Ravens' D has the potential to be terrible at stopping the pass...they've got 1 CB that should be on an NFL roster in Foxworth, and Reed's commitment and ability are (in my mind) a question after an offseason filled with surgery and retirement talk.
The Ravens were 25th in Pass/Rush ratio last season. I do expect their ratio to increase slightly next year, but they won't be anywhere near top 5 in the league. Also, their leading receiver in terms of receptions was a RB. While that counts as a pass, it's not exactly airing it out- I don't expect a spread offense to be a staple next year myself. They may be forced to throw more if the games (or their defense) dictates that, but I don't think they are going into the season planning on being one of the most passing-oriented teams in the league.
 
Boldin will put up stud numbers as the go to guy.Playing 16 games87 receptions 1275 yards 11 TD's
You really think he'll average almost 15 YPR? His career average is a tad under 13 and he's average about 12 the past 3 seasons. IMO the only way boldin notches 1275 yards is if he catches 100 balls, and I don't see that happening. I see him the 80-90 reception range.
Ok...so knock it down to 1100 yards...his TD total will suprise everyone this season.STUD numbers.
 
I am always cautious of WRs who switch teams and rarely pick them.

Boldin had some nice numbers in Arizona and I do think he is legit, but I am only thinking he will go this route:

75/1000/6

 
This thread has me convinced that I will not own Boldin this year, as chances are there will be at least one owner in every league who thinks he'll go 95/1300/12. Not saying it can't happen, but I'm not willing to pay for it on draft day.
Yeah more like I project I will be drafting Mason.I don't think Boldin can hit 1,000 yards or 80 catches.
 
I said that.

Heres my reasoning:

1) Look at how Baltimore is changing their personnel (+Boldin, +Stallworth, +2 spead TEs in Dickson and Pitta, possibly replacing Gaither with Cousins). Seems to suggest they will be running alot more spread.

2) Flacco was throwing the ball all over the field last year before injuries ravaged him.

3) The Ravens' D has the potential to be terrible at stopping the pass...they've got 1 CB that should be on an NFL roster in Foxworth, and Reed's commitment and ability are (in my mind) a question after an offseason filled with surgery and retirement talk.
The Ravens were 25th in Pass/Rush ratio last season. I do expect their ratio to increase slightly next year, but they won't be anywhere near top 5 in the league. Also, their leading receiver in terms of receptions was a RB. While that counts as a pass, it's not exactly airing it out-I don't expect a spread offense to be a staple next year myself. They may be forced to throw more if the games (or their defense) dictates that, but I don't think they are going into the season planning on being one of the most passing-oriented teams in the league.
:excited: Flacco was on pace for 564 attempts through the first half of the season before his hip injury. Would have put them 8th in attempts on the season. With a host of new, improved receiving targets, and Rice not playing behind McGahee to start the season, close to 600 attempts for a HEALTHY Flacco makes sense to me.

I think people are drastically underestimating how badly his mobility was limited after his injury.

 
I said that.

Heres my reasoning:

1) Look at how Baltimore is changing their personnel (+Boldin, +Stallworth, +2 spead TEs in Dickson and Pitta, possibly replacing Gaither with Cousins). Seems to suggest they will be running alot more spread.

2) Flacco was throwing the ball all over the field last year before injuries ravaged him.

3) The Ravens' D has the potential to be terrible at stopping the pass...they've got 1 CB that should be on an NFL roster in Foxworth, and Reed's commitment and ability are (in my mind) a question after an offseason filled with surgery and retirement talk.
The Ravens were 25th in Pass/Rush ratio last season. I do expect their ratio to increase slightly next year, but they won't be anywhere near top 5 in the league. Also, their leading receiver in terms of receptions was a RB. While that counts as a pass, it's not exactly airing it out-I don't expect a spread offense to be a staple next year myself. They may be forced to throw more if the games (or their defense) dictates that, but I don't think they are going into the season planning on being one of the most passing-oriented teams in the league.
:shrug: Flacco was on pace for 564 attempts through the first half of the season before his hip injury. Would have put them 8th in attempts on the season. With a host of new, improved receiving targets, and Rice not playing behind McGahee to start the season, close to 600 attempts for a HEALTHY Flacco makes sense to me.

I think people are drastically underestimating how badly his mobility was limited after his injury.
I interpret heavy pass-oriented offense to mean they have a higher percentage of pass plays vs. run plays, not just total passing attempts. The Ravens were also 3-6 when he attempted 30 or more passes (3-7 if you include the post-season). It's probably not something they want to shoot for.Anyway, the highest number of attempts in the NFL last season was Schaub with 583. Only 5 QBs in the last 7 seasons have gone over 600 attempts. If you expect Flacco to have more attempts than any QB had in the league last season, more power to you, but the odds of that happening are slim to none.

 
I said that.

Heres my reasoning:

1) Look at how Baltimore is changing their personnel (+Boldin, +Stallworth, +2 spead TEs in Dickson and Pitta, possibly replacing Gaither with Cousins). Seems to suggest they will be running alot more spread.

2) Flacco was throwing the ball all over the field last year before injuries ravaged him.

3) The Ravens' D has the potential to be terrible at stopping the pass...they've got 1 CB that should be on an NFL roster in Foxworth, and Reed's commitment and ability are (in my mind) a question after an offseason filled with surgery and retirement talk.
The Ravens were 25th in Pass/Rush ratio last season. I do expect their ratio to increase slightly next year, but they won't be anywhere near top 5 in the league. Also, their leading receiver in terms of receptions was a RB. While that counts as a pass, it's not exactly airing it out-I don't expect a spread offense to be a staple next year myself. They may be forced to throw more if the games (or their defense) dictates that, but I don't think they are going into the season planning on being one of the most passing-oriented teams in the league.
:goodposting: Flacco was on pace for 564 attempts through the first half of the season before his hip injury. Would have put them 8th in attempts on the season. With a host of new, improved receiving targets, and Rice not playing behind McGahee to start the season, close to 600 attempts for a HEALTHY Flacco makes sense to me.

I think people are drastically underestimating how badly his mobility was limited after his injury.
I interpret heavy pass-oriented offense to mean they have a higher percentage of pass plays vs. run plays, not just total passing attempts. The Ravens were also 3-6 when he attempted 30 or more passes (3-7 if you include the post-season). It's probably not something they want to shoot for.Anyway, the highest number of attempts in the NFL last season was Schaub with 583. Only 5 QBs in the last 7 seasons have gone over 600 attempts. If you expect Flacco to have more attempts than any QB had in the league last season, more power to you, but the odds of that happening are slim to none.
Thats a bit intellectually dishonest, no?6 teams threw more than 585 passes last year; I don't think I should have to specify that by Flacco I mean the Ravens' passing offense.

Either way, I dont think approaching 600 attempts (575-599) is an unreasonable expectation for the Ravens QBs.

 
Boldin has always been a solid fantasy WR and I dont see that changing! The situation can only help him, with Flacco being better and the team in general being better. If he can get good numbers along side Fitz, he sure can get them along side Mason and Stallworth. he'll produce the same as always...80+ catches, 1000+ yards and around 10 tds. Solid in my book.

 
Anquan Boldin, a second round draft pick, burst on the NFL scene as a stud grabbing 101 catches for 1377 yards and 8 TDs in 2003. His give it all on every down attitude generally provides him with a lot more fans than detractors. There are reasons for optimism in 2010 for Boldin as his primary competition for targets goes from Larry Fitzgerald to Derrick Mason. Mason has been the leading WR for the Ravens for a while, but should be the #2 option behind Boldin.

Baltimore's passing totals crept up last year in Flacco's second season, even considering the decrease as the year went on and Flacco nursed injuries. For the first twelve games, Flacco attempted 406 passes (33.8 per game). For the last four games and the three playoff contests, he only threw an average of 23 per game. I think that their plan is more of the same as the initial plan in 09. I see upwards of 550 attempts for Flacco.

I think that Boldin will be the primary focus with Mason's role decreasing to a support role. With Stallworth and possibly Demetrius Williams mostly being used on the longer routes to open up the field.

An interesting comparison is that the current ADP has Boldin as the WR 14, at 39 overall, which surprised me as being higher than expected. FBG has a composite ranking of WR 15, with a high of 8 and a low of 26. However, of the four that provided projections, Boldin comes in at 20 three times and once at 13.

Anquan Boldin 140 targets 86 catches 1,120 yards 13.0 ypc and 10 TDs

 
Anquan Boldin, a second round draft pick, burst on the NFL scene as a stud grabbing 101 catches for 1377 yards and 8 TDs in 2003. His give it all on every down attitude generally provides him with a lot more fans than detractors. There are reasons for optimism in 2010 for Boldin as his primary competition for targets goes from Larry Fitzgerald to Derrick Mason. Mason has been the leading WR for the Ravens for a while, but should be the #2 option behind Boldin.Baltimore's passing totals crept up last year in Flacco's second season, even considering the decrease as the year went on and Flacco nursed injuries. For the first twelve games, Flacco attempted 406 passes (33.8 per game). For the last four games and the three playoff contests, he only threw an average of 23 per game. I think that their plan is more of the same as the initial plan in 09. I see upwards of 550 attempts for Flacco.I think that Boldin will be the primary focus with Mason's role decreasing to a support role. With Stallworth and possibly Demetrius Williams mostly being used on the longer routes to open up the field.An interesting comparison is that the current ADP has Boldin as the WR 14, at 39 overall, which surprised me as being higher than expected. FBG has a composite ranking of WR 15, with a high of 8 and a low of 26. However, of the four that provided projections, Boldin comes in at 20 three times and once at 13.Anquan Boldin 140 targets 86 catches 1,120 yards 13.0 ypc and 10 TDs
With 140 targets, he should be closer to 100 receptions. Last 3 season his catch % 71,5.
 
I said that.

Heres my reasoning:

1) Look at how Baltimore is changing their personnel (+Boldin, +Stallworth, +2 spead TEs in Dickson and Pitta, possibly replacing Gaither with Cousins). Seems to suggest they will be running alot more spread.

2) Flacco was throwing the ball all over the field last year before injuries ravaged him.

3) The Ravens' D has the potential to be terrible at stopping the pass...they've got 1 CB that should be on an NFL roster in Foxworth, and Reed's commitment and ability are (in my mind) a question after an offseason filled with surgery and retirement talk.
The Ravens were 25th in Pass/Rush ratio last season. I do expect their ratio to increase slightly next year, but they won't be anywhere near top 5 in the league. Also, their leading receiver in terms of receptions was a RB. While that counts as a pass, it's not exactly airing it out-I don't expect a spread offense to be a staple next year myself. They may be forced to throw more if the games (or their defense) dictates that, but I don't think they are going into the season planning on being one of the most passing-oriented teams in the league.
:excited: Flacco was on pace for 564 attempts through the first half of the season before his hip injury. Would have put them 8th in attempts on the season. With a host of new, improved receiving targets, and Rice not playing behind McGahee to start the season, close to 600 attempts for a HEALTHY Flacco makes sense to me.

I think people are drastically underestimating how badly his mobility was limited after his injury.
I interpret heavy pass-oriented offense to mean they have a higher percentage of pass plays vs. run plays, not just total passing attempts. The Ravens were also 3-6 when he attempted 30 or more passes (3-7 if you include the post-season). It's probably not something they want to shoot for.Anyway, the highest number of attempts in the NFL last season was Schaub with 583. Only 5 QBs in the last 7 seasons have gone over 600 attempts. If you expect Flacco to have more attempts than any QB had in the league last season, more power to you, but the odds of that happening are slim to none.
Thats a bit intellectually dishonest, no?6 teams threw more than 585 passes last year; I don't think I should have to specify that by Flacco I mean the Ravens' passing offense.

Either way, I dont think approaching 600 attempts (575-599) is an unreasonable expectation for the Ravens QBs.
First you went from "heaviest pass-oriented offenses", which generally means highest pass/rush ratio, to just attempts. You were talking about Flacco's attempts, you said Flacco several times in your posts, and now that's become Raven's QBs attempts. And I'm the one being a bit intellectually dishonest?The Ravens were 25th in the NFL last season in pass/rush ratio, and 25th in passing attempts overall. However you want to look at it, whether it's ratio, passing attempts, Flacco or the Ravens- if you really want to bank on them jumping 20+ spots, be my guest, but it's just not going to happen.

 
Anquan Boldin, a second round draft pick, burst on the NFL scene as a stud grabbing 101 catches for 1377 yards and 8 TDs in 2003. His give it all on every down attitude generally provides him with a lot more fans than detractors. There are reasons for optimism in 2010 for Boldin as his primary competition for targets goes from Larry Fitzgerald to Derrick Mason. Mason has been the leading WR for the Ravens for a while, but should be the #2 option behind Boldin.Baltimore's passing totals crept up last year in Flacco's second season, even considering the decrease as the year went on and Flacco nursed injuries. For the first twelve games, Flacco attempted 406 passes (33.8 per game). For the last four games and the three playoff contests, he only threw an average of 23 per game. I think that their plan is more of the same as the initial plan in 09. I see upwards of 550 attempts for Flacco.I think that Boldin will be the primary focus with Mason's role decreasing to a support role. With Stallworth and possibly Demetrius Williams mostly being used on the longer routes to open up the field.An interesting comparison is that the current ADP has Boldin as the WR 14, at 39 overall, which surprised me as being higher than expected. FBG has a composite ranking of WR 15, with a high of 8 and a low of 26. However, of the four that provided projections, Boldin comes in at 20 three times and once at 13.Anquan Boldin 140 targets 86 catches 1,120 yards 13.0 ypc and 10 TDs
With 140 targets, he should be closer to 100 receptions. Last 3 season his catch % 71,5.
But his last three seasons featured a lot of Kurt Warner being very accurate on shorter patterns. His career catch percentage is 62.2% and that is what I used for my projection. I think that he will see more longer routes with the Ravens than he did with the Cardinals. As a dynasty owner, I would appreciate the catch percentage being higher though.
 
Boldin has had seven years in the NFL. In four of those years he had 14+ starts, the other three 11, 11, and 9. So while you may not "project" injuries, I think it's very optimistic not to take them into account when talking about Boldin. He's possibly the most likely top-30 receiver to miss multiple games with injuries.

In his four "healthy" years, Boldin has gone over 1000 yards each time - that seems a pretty safe bet. But during those four "healthy" years, his TD totals have been 8. 7, 4 and 4. He is inconsistent as a TD scorer; ironically, his best TD years have been injury years.

He now goes from a team that had a very prolific passing attack (over 4000 yards in four of the past five years) to one with a strong history of running (haven't sniffed 4000 passing yards in the last sevn years at least). He has a new QB, young and promising, but Joe Flacco's got to show me more than a few good games last year before I'll start thinking he's Kurt Warner. And for the first time in a long time, he's going to be facing the top CB of opposing defenses (inluding week 1 - NY Jets and week 2 - Cincinnati Bengals, two teams not known for giving up much to opposing #1 WRs).

So we've got an injury prone, inconsistent guy switching from a pass-heavy team steered by one of the best QBs around to a run-heavy team with a young QB who has a career high of 3600 yards and 21 TDs.

I expect a slow start at best for Boldin, given the schedule, and can't get excited about his TD scoring capabilities.

70 catches / 1020 yards / 5 TDs.

 
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As one might expect, the Ravens passed the ball more in the games they lost than in those they won. In their wins Flacco never threw the ball more than 30 times (29 twice) and in losses exceeded 30 attempts only three times; this is a team that believes in running the ball and with the corp of RB's on their roster who can blame them. So why should we expect Flacco's passing attempts to increase significantly this coming season? A slight uptick to around 525 +/- seems reasonable.

The latest news is that the team plans on using Boldin out of the slot. This gives Flacco the quick read sure handed guy he can dump the ball off to when Mason is running a longer developing route. This also exposes an injury prone player to more big hits. This is not a guy who shies away from contact and has missed numerous games over his career because of it. It is reasonable to assume he misses a couple of games or so this coming year. Touchdowns are hard to predict so that aspect of his game is hard to predict. Like others here I believe he will be in the 80 catch range and come in at around 1000 yards.

80/960/6

 
I look for Q to be very productive for the Ravens this year. I see him as a complete fit for the team.

I see Q catching alot of balls but I agree with a comment earlier that he won't see alot of deep looks.

However, with his run after the catch skills I still expect him to post excellent numbers as long as he

can stay healthy.

95 catches

1250 yards

8 td's

I'm thinking top 10

 
It's easy to say top ten...But then you have to look at the numbers. He was the number 18 WR last year. When you look at the list of 17 guys ahead of him, and then you look at the guys behind him that are younger and bound to improve (Calvin Johnson, Percy Harvin, Jennings, Sims-Walker)....it's kind of hard to justify Boldin being top ten.

At this point, I think Boldin is a very average number 1 WR, and a GREAT number 2.

 
shader said:
It's easy to say top ten...But then you have to look at the numbers. He was the number 18 WR last year. When you look at the list of 17 guys ahead of him, and then you look at the guys behind him that are younger and bound to improve (Calvin Johnson, Percy Harvin, Jennings, Sims-Walker)....it's kind of hard to justify Boldin being top ten.

At this point, I think Boldin is a very average number 1 WR, and a GREAT number 2.
Are you talking fantasy or real life?
 

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