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Antonio Bryant, WR, Cincinnati Bengals (1 Viewer)

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Antonio Bryant is tough to prognosticate because he has a history of getting injured. If he plays 16 games, he has some serious potential to put up top 20 numbers. He's a big play wide receiver and he's still tough for defenders to cover. However, he'll be Wr2 at best and the Bengals are proving that they want to run the ball first and throw to keep the defenses honest, so Bryant will have to make some big plays out of the opportunities he'll be given to find success in Cinci.

52 receptions for 750 yards and 6 td's

 
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Antonio Bryant is tough to prognosticate because he has a history of getting injured. If he plays 16 games, he has some serious potential to put up top 20 numbers because he plays on a team where they'll be behind and he'll be able to pick up big chunks of yards in the 2nd halves of games. He's a big play wide receiver and he's still tough for defenders to cover.52 receptions for 750 yards and 6 td's
??????The Bengals were 6th in the league last year in total points given up.
 
Most people don't realize how talented Antonio Bryant is. In 2008, Bryant caught he had 83 catches for 1,248 yards, and 7 TDs. And that was with Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese at QB. Last year Bryant's numbers dropped, but this was a season in which he played after having knee surgery in August, and was never 100% the entire season. Not to mention he played with 3 different QBs, two of which were making their first starts in the NFL.

Now a year removed from his knee surgery, Bryant will be healthy and is entering the best situation of his entire career. Say what you want about Carson Palmer and how he played down the stretch last year. Palmer is still by far the best QB Bryant has ever played with. And with another stud WR opposite of him, this will be the 1st time in a couple years where he isn't being double teamed every play.

Don't sleep on the fact that for years Chad Ochocinco and T.J. Houshmanzadeh were both putting up great numbers for the Bengals. Bob Bratkowski is entering his 9th year as offensive coordinator with the Bengals, and he loves to throw the ball. Yes, last year the Bengals ran the ball a lot more than in the past. But Laveranues Coles was a huge disappointment, and other than Ochocinco, the Bengals didn't have many weapons to throw to. Bryant isn't the possession receiver that TJ Houshmanzadeh is, so I don't see him putting up the 90 plus catches that Housh did in his last 3 years with the Bengals. With that said, I do think Bryant is a more talented player than Housh, and he will get plenty of looks.

Antonio Bryant will be the steal of many fantasy drafts this year. My projections may even be conservative.

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All I have to add is that this guy is such a wasted talent. I thought he was going to be the next Michael Irvin. He doesn't have game breaker speed, but he is tough as nails and has great hands.

Oh, and a 5 cent head.

 
I got lucky a few times with Carson last year. However, the DEF is too solid and Benson provides them with too good of a running game to bank on anything through the air. I'm staying away from CIN passing this year, but I'll take Benson.

 
Most people don't realize how talented Antonio Bryant is. In 2008, Bryant caught he had 83 catches for 1,248 yards, and 7 TDs. And that was with Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese at QB. Last year Bryant's numbers dropped, but this was a season in which he played after having knee surgery in August, and was never 100% the entire season. Not to mention he played with 3 different QBs, two of which were making their first starts in the NFL.

Now a year removed from his knee surgery, Bryant will be healthy and is entering the best situation of his entire career. Say what you want about Carson Palmer and how he played down the stretch last year. Palmer is still by far the best QB Bryant has ever played with. And with another stud WR opposite of him, this will be the 1st time in a couple years where he isn't being double teamed every play.

Don't sleep on the fact that for years Chad Ochocinco and T.J. Houshmanzadeh were both putting up great numbers for the Bengals. Bob Bratkowski is entering his 9th year as offensive coordinator with the Bengals, and he loves to throw the ball. Yes, last year the Bengals ran the ball a lot more than in the past. But Laveranues Coles was a huge disappointment, and other than Ochocinco, the Bengals didn't have many weapons to throw to. Bryant isn't the possession receiver that TJ Houshmanzadeh is, so I don't see him putting up the 90 plus catches that Housh did in his last 3 years with the Bengals. With that said, I do think Bryant is a more talented player than Housh, and he will get plenty of looks.

Antonio Bryant will be the steal of many fantasy drafts this year. My projections may even be conservative.

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I personally avoided Bryant last year coming off of a 1200 yd season, this year is the exact opposite. a value play in redraft leagues, won't be surprised at a top 15-20 finish
 
Most people don't realize how talented Antonio Bryant is. In 2008, Bryant caught he had 83 catches for 1,248 yards, and 7 TDs. And that was with Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese at QB. Last year Bryant's numbers dropped, but this was a season in which he played after having knee surgery in August, and was never 100% the entire season. Not to mention he played with 3 different QBs, two of which were making their first starts in the NFL.

Now a year removed from his knee surgery, Bryant will be healthy and is entering the best situation of his entire career. Say what you want about Carson Palmer and how he played down the stretch last year. Palmer is still by far the best QB Bryant has ever played with. And with another stud WR opposite of him, this will be the 1st time in a couple years where he isn't being double teamed every play.

Don't sleep on the fact that for years Chad Ochocinco and T.J. Houshmanzadeh were both putting up great numbers for the Bengals. Bob Bratkowski is entering his 9th year as offensive coordinator with the Bengals, and he loves to throw the ball. Yes, last year the Bengals ran the ball a lot more than in the past. But Laveranues Coles was a huge disappointment, and other than Ochocinco, the Bengals didn't have many weapons to throw to. Bryant isn't the possession receiver that TJ Houshmanzadeh is, so I don't see him putting up the 90 plus catches that Housh did in his last 3 years with the Bengals. With that said, I do think Bryant is a more talented player than Housh, and he will get plenty of looks.

Antonio Bryant will be the steal of many fantasy drafts this year. My projections may even be conservative.

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Since Cedric Benson came on the offense took on a completely different look,and I doubt that changes with the arrival of Bryant...this is a run-heavy offense...Coles still had some juice left last season,they didn't throw the ball to him.Bengals also drafted

Gresham in the first round,an indication that they plan to use him a lot, so between Ochocinco, Gresham, Benson, Bryant, I don't think there's enough plays to satisfy everyone..

and then there's the 'if' factor w/Bryant, as in 'if' he stays healthy..

spot player at best, bye week filler - maybe..

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I personally think that the running game label attached to Cincinatti may be short lived. Look at all the added weapons this off season. In addition to Antonio Bryant, there is Matt Jones at WR. Caldwell played somewhat decent a year ago, but the Bengals drafted Shipley who may fit in the slot even better than Caldwell. They also added a field stretching TE in Jermaine Gresham.

I listen to Moving the Chains some and they have been talking about how the Bengals want to go with the 11 package, which is one RB, three WRs and a faster TE. This doesn't sound to me like the ground and pound cloud of dust philosophy that is mentioned often in Bengal threads.

I like the talent of Antonio Bryant and Matt Jones as well. I am struggling with how much the TE will be involved and which WRs will "step up", but I definitely think that Carson Palmer is set for an improved season.

I'll say that Antonio Bryant leaves Matt Jones in the dust and takes over a 1B role to Chad Ochocinco's 1A and provides value to those that draft him much later as his current ADP is 109 overall and WR 38.

Antonio Bryant 16 gms 120 targets 70 catches 58% 1050 yds 15.0 ypc and 7 TDs

 
Since Cedric Benson came on the offense took on a completely different look,and I doubt that changes with the arrival of Bryant...this is a run-heavy offense
2004-2006Palmer- attempts per game2004- 332005- 31.82006- 32.5Rudi Johnson rushes/receptions game2004- 22.6/0.92005- 21.1/1.42006- 21.3/1.4Benson attempts with Cin2008- 17.8/1.72009- 23.2/1.3During those years the Bengals had 2 fantasy relevant starters each year along with a back grabbing 22+ touches a game. There is plenty of room for 3 fantasy producers in this offense- the main problem last year was Palmer having well below his career completion % and y/a. If it was just him not being fully back from his elbow surgery then Bryant has a lot of upside, if he doesn't recover then he won't be worth much at all.
 
Grim situation obviously. I wasn't sold on Bryant from jump street, but clearly the addition of Owens AT BEST makes Bryant a WR3 but much more likely suggests that his injury is enough of a concern that you have to wonder whether he has a place on the team. What do you think about this latest development?

 
Grim situation obviously. I wasn't sold on Bryant from jump street, but clearly the addition of Owens AT BEST makes Bryant a WR3 but much more likely suggests that his injury is enough of a concern that you have to wonder whether he has a place on the team. What do you think about this latest development?
Bryant is much better than TO imo. I think if one is going to be cut or role diminished, it would be TO.very bad move for the Bengals, they take a step back.
 
Antonio Bryant is tough to prognosticate because he has a history of getting injured. If he plays 16 games, he has some serious potential to put up top 20 numbers. He's a big play wide receiver and he's still tough for defenders to cover. However, he'll be Wr2 at best and the Bengals are proving that they want to run the ball first and throw to keep the defenses honest, so Bryant will have to make some big plays out of the opportunities he'll be given to find success in Cinci.52 receptions for 750 yards and 6 td's
With the addition of TO, this has to cut into Bryant's numbers. I see him as a distant WR3 on the Benglas team behind a 1a and 1b of Owens and 85. 40 recpetions for 520 yards and 3 td's
 
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Bryant is much better than TO imo. I think if one is going to be cut or role diminished, it would be TO.very bad move for the Bengals, they take a step back.
why i love FF... i am the COMPLETE opposite of you on this issue. Bryant's last 2 "breakout seasons" have been no better than owens' last 2 "garbage" seasons.... prime wr v 'aged' wr.so no, doesnt fly with me... TO is a massive improvement. demands coverage, keep defenses guessing. gives CIN a ruthless aerial attack. and opens the ground for Bensonno way a Corner is thinking "thank god this is TO and not bryant".... just no way. but hey, we all have our own opinions, this is just mine
 
Grim situation obviously. I wasn't sold on Bryant from jump street, but clearly the addition of Owens AT BEST makes Bryant a WR3 but much more likely suggests that his injury is enough of a concern that you have to wonder whether he has a place on the team. What do you think about this latest development?
Bryant is much better than TO imo. I think if one is going to be cut or role diminished, it would be TO.

very bad move for the Bengals, they take a step back.
No in any discernible or quantifiable way, at least thus far in their respective careers.
 
Grim situation obviously. I wasn't sold on Bryant from jump street, but clearly the addition of Owens AT BEST makes Bryant a WR3 but much more likely suggests that his injury is enough of a concern that you have to wonder whether he has a place on the team. What do you think about this latest development?
Bryant is much better than TO imo. I think if one is going to be cut or role diminished, it would be TO.

very bad move for the Bengals, they take a step back.
No in any discernible or quantifiable way, at least thus far in their respective careers.
Wood, you are right. I had not known that Bryant was still hurt. :thumbup: Apparently that must be the case. I am wrong in my assessment of this situation and TO does fairly deserve some bump in his overall rating. I don't personally like Owens, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a good situation and is a nice middle round pick. I'm doing a complete 180 here. Bryant's value plummets imo.

 
Grim situation obviously. I wasn't sold on Bryant from jump street, but clearly the addition of Owens AT BEST makes Bryant a WR3 but much more likely suggests that his injury is enough of a concern that you have to wonder whether he has a place on the team. What do you think about this latest development?
Bryant is much better than TO imo. I think if one is going to be cut or role diminished, it would be TO.

very bad move for the Bengals, they take a step back.
No in any discernible or quantifiable way, at least thus far in their respective careers.
Wood, you are right. I had not known that Bryant was still hurt. :lmao: Apparently that must be the case. I am wrong in my assessment of this situation and TO does fairly deserve some bump in his overall rating. I don't personally like Owens, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a good situation and is a nice middle round pick. I'm doing a complete 180 here. Bryant's value plummets imo.
Way to duck Wood's point. He is assuming Bryant is healthy.
 
Grim situation obviously. I wasn't sold on Bryant from jump street, but clearly the addition of Owens AT BEST makes Bryant a WR3 but much more likely suggests that his injury is enough of a concern that you have to wonder whether he has a place on the team. What do you think about this latest development?
Bryant is much better than TO imo. I think if one is going to be cut or role diminished, it would be TO.

very bad move for the Bengals, they take a step back.
No in any discernible or quantifiable way, at least thus far in their respective careers.
Wood, you are right. I had not known that Bryant was still hurt. :lmao: Apparently that must be the case. I am wrong in my assessment of this situation and TO does fairly deserve some bump in his overall rating. I don't personally like Owens, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a good situation and is a nice middle round pick. I'm doing a complete 180 here. Bryant's value plummets imo.
Way to duck Wood's point. He is assuming Bryant is healthy.
I wasn't ducking Wood. I still think a healthy Bryant, the one I saw last year is better than the TO this year. I don't care about past stats for FF. I am judging the players in the here and now. Wood was right. I was wrong. What'd ya want from me?
 
I wasn't ducking Wood. I still think a healthy Bryant, the one I saw last year is better than the TO this year. I don't care about past stats for FF. I am judging the players in the here and now. Wood was right. I was wrong. What'd ya want from me?
Thanks Raiderfan. One of the things we all come to realize is that if we make predictions we're going to have a lot of egg on our face. You just have to look back at our rankings/projections in prior years and you'll find plenty of calls I would love to have a do over. You could still be absolutely right...Bryant could be the healthy #2, Owens could pout his way off the team by October and then I'm the one who owes you a mea culpa. :lmao:
 
no way a Corner is thinking "thank god this is TO and not bryant".... just no way.
LOL..... you mean corners arent' scared of Antonio Bryant? I agree 100% with you. TO demands attention. I don't care how "old" he is and how "slow" he is. One false move, one mistakeby a corner, and he's toast. TO changes the complexion of the entire offense. Just look at what "effect" he had in Philly and Dallas. His presence opened upso many opportunities for others on the offense to make plays. TO and R. Moss are the greatest Decoys in the history of sport.
 
If healthy, I would rather run Bryant out there now than TO. I think TO has lost a good deal and is in decline. I think his aura will have a lot less impact on DBs than on long time fans. I agree that Bryant has been no better than TO over the last couple of years and has never approached TOs peak talent. But Bryant has had injury problems and still has been the #1 almost everywhere he has gone - and few have played as well with the motley collection of QBs and number of changing teams Antonio has. I thought the Bryant signing would do what most seem to think the TO signing will. I also think signing Bryant for about 3 times what they gave TO a couple of months later is something to consider in calculating what the Bengals think.

But signing TO tells me Bryant's knee is not sound, or at least the the team is very worried about it. If Bryant can't play at 100%, signing TO is a great move. If Bryant is fine, I see him ending up the producing #2. Agree TO makes a great decoy - because aside from breakaway speed, he remains a stud - so you'd better not slack off and give him any room.

 
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If healthy, I would rather run Bryant out there now than TO. I think TO has lost a good deal and is in decline. I think his aura will have a lot less impact on DBs than on long time fans. I agree that Bryant has been no better than TO over the last couple of years and has never approached TOs peak talent. But Bryant has had injury problems and still has been the #1 almost everywhere he has gone - and few have played as well with the motley collection of QBs and number of changing teams Antonio has. I thought the Bryant signing would do what most seem to think the TO signing will. I also think signing Bryant for about 3 times what they gave TO a couple of months later is something to consider in calculating what the Bengals think.But signing TO tells me Bryant's knee is not sound, or at least the the team is very worried about it. If Bryant can't play at 100%, signing TO is a great move. If Bryant is fine, I see him ending up the producing #2. Agree TO makes a great decoy - because aside from breakaway speed, he remains a stud - so you'd better not slack off and give him any room.
:thumbup: check that... Great posting, what he said.....
 
Bengals could reach injury settlement with Bryant

Posted: August 16th, 2010 |

Frank Tadych |

As the curious case of Antonio Bryant drags on, I continue to hear rumblings that the Cincinnati Bengals are considering releasing the player they signed just five months ago.

The Bengals signed Bryant to a four-year, $28 million contract, but might now be willing to cut ties.

NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora passed on word that, according to his sources, it’s a distinct possibility the Bengals could reach an injury settlement with Bryant, meaning he would never play a down for the team. The Bengals, after giving Bryant nearly $10 million in guarantees, would have to eat a chunk of that money, but their concerns over his effectiveness this season are very real.

La Canfora will be updating the situation around Bryant today on NFL Total Access, so make sure to check that out on NFL Network (7 p.m. ET).

Bryant hasn’t taken the field since the first practice of training camp due to lingering issues in the left knee that bothered him throughout the 2009 season. The Bengals have done their part to downplay Bryant’s status, but the vagueness from both sides is only fueling the speculation.

As of last Thursday, Bryant told Bengals.com he hasn’t started running yet, but promised the team’s investment would be worth the cost.

“I’m feeling better, but I really don’t have much to say,” Bryant said. “I’m just trying to be forgotten. It’s hard to forget $7 million. It will be worth it. As soon as I put my feet on the ground, it will be more than worth it.”

Maybe so. But one can only wonder how Bryant passed a physical with the Bengals in the first place. And because Bryant practiced on the first day of camp, he’s not eligible to be placed on the “reserve” PUP list before the start of the regular season, which would give the Bengals a six-week window to start the season without Bryant counting against the 53-player roster.

With Terrell Owens in the mix, the impressive debuts of rookies Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham in the middle of the field and Andre Caldwell in reserve, the Bengals certainly have a lot to think about when it comes to Bryant.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/08/16/bengals-co...le=HP_headlines

 
Bengals could reach injury settlement with Bryant

Posted: August 16th, 2010 |

Frank Tadych |

As the curious case of Antonio Bryant drags on, I continue to hear rumblings that the Cincinnati Bengals are considering releasing the player they signed just five months ago.

The Bengals signed Bryant to a four-year, $28 million contract, but might now be willing to cut ties.

NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora passed on word that, according to his sources, it’s a distinct possibility the Bengals could reach an injury settlement with Bryant, meaning he would never play a down for the team. The Bengals, after giving Bryant nearly $10 million in guarantees, would have to eat a chunk of that money, but their concerns over his effectiveness this season are very real.

La Canfora will be updating the situation around Bryant today on NFL Total Access, so make sure to check that out on NFL Network (7 p.m. ET).

Bryant hasn’t taken the field since the first practice of training camp due to lingering issues in the left knee that bothered him throughout the 2009 season. The Bengals have done their part to downplay Bryant’s status, but the vagueness from both sides is only fueling the speculation.

As of last Thursday, Bryant told Bengals.com he hasn’t started running yet, but promised the team’s investment would be worth the cost.

“I’m feeling better, but I really don’t have much to say,” Bryant said. “I’m just trying to be forgotten. It’s hard to forget $7 million. It will be worth it. As soon as I put my feet on the ground, it will be more than worth it.”

Maybe so. But one can only wonder how Bryant passed a physical with the Bengals in the first place. And because Bryant practiced on the first day of camp, he’s not eligible to be placed on the “reserve” PUP list before the start of the regular season, which would give the Bengals a six-week window to start the season without Bryant counting against the 53-player roster.

With Terrell Owens in the mix, the impressive debuts of rookies Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham in the middle of the field and Andre Caldwell in reserve, the Bengals certainly have a lot to think about when it comes to Bryant.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/08/16/bengals-co...le=HP_headlines
The Bucs are cheap!@!!!!1!! ;)

 
All I have to add is that this guy is such a wasted talent. I thought he was going to be the next Michael Irvin. He doesn't have game breaker speed, but he is tough as nails and has great hands.

Oh, and a 5 cent head.
Yet he somehow managed to trick the Bengals into more than doubling his net worth. :jawdrop:
 

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