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Danario Alexander - WR - CLG - Jul. 22 - 8:55 am et

Mizzou WR Danario Alexander (knee surgeries) is holding a pro day for NFL teams next Wednesday.

Alexander was projected to be a mid-round pick after blowing up for 113 receptions, 1,781 yards and 14 TDs last year, but he missed the Combine with yet another in a long line of knee injuries. He appears to be close to full health once again. Jul. 22 - 8:55 am et

Danario Alexander ready to show teams what he can do

Danario Alexander, a talented wide receiver at Missouri who ran into knee problems at the wrong time, has been cleared to work out for NFL teams.

Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports the news, and adds that the Rams could have interest in the big target who excelled in college. There were concerns about Alexander’s left knee moving toward the draft and those were heightened when he underwent surgery in February, a procedure that led him to go undrafted.

There could be a pro day scheduled for Alexander soon, and the Rams could bring him in for a look. Alexander was a big-time performer for Chase Daniel and then he was even better last season without the former star. Alexander caught 113 passes for 1,781 yards and 14 touchdowns.

“We need to get the medical reports,” Rams general manager Billy Devaney told Thomas. “If he's cleared physically, we'll probably bring him in for a visit and a physical.”

Alexander is 6-4, 221 pounds and while some scouts doubt his speed, he’s claiming to be running in the 4.4-range in the 40-yard dash. Certainly, he’s worth a number of teams looking at. Considering the lack of depth in Carolina, the Panthers would be wise to at least kick the tires on him if they get a positive medical report.

Interested teams:

Bears**

Rams

Anyone else?

Who needs a WR?

Carolina

Titans

Bengals

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The Rams need to sign this guy if his knees check out. Possible stud QB, and very little WR talent ahead of him on the depth chart. Might get some of the locals a little excited as well by bringing in the WR star of Mizzou last year.

 
ItsOnlytheRiver said:
The Rams need to sign this guy if his knees check out. Possible stud QB, and very little WR talent ahead of him on the depth chart. Might get some of the locals a little excited as well by bringing in the WR star of Mizzou last year.
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The knee is a problem, but this guy can play. He takes such long strides it looks effortless like he's running in slow motion.... He has awesome straight line speed and he's alot more physical the some of the scouts suggest.. Not really the quick burst you like to see in and out of changes but all in all, I think he's a good to great prospect if he can stay healthy.
 
ItsOnlytheRiver said:
The Rams need to sign this guy if his knees check out. Possible stud QB, and very little WR talent ahead of him on the depth chart. Might get some of the locals a little excited as well by bringing in the WR star of Mizzou last year.
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Very little talent of any kind after so many top draft picks.
 
If he gets signed somewhere how long does it usually take MFL to get players loaded? I wanted to draft him, but our league only allows for players on MFL. I just want to be the 1st to him when he gets on there.

Dude could be great if healthy.

 
Saw him at the Senior Bowl, the talent is there but the durability/strength is not.

Day one of practice:

Danario Alexander (Missouri) only stood out a couple of times to me today in practice. Once he high pointed a pass on the sidelines, and showed good body control by keeping both feet in bounds. He comes back to the football when the quarterback is in trouble, and he even dove on the ground to scoop in a low pass from Sean Canfield.

Day two of practice:

Danario Alexander(Missouri) showed good hands today, and was catching the ball with arms extended away from his body. I like his body control and ability to adjust to poorly thrown passes. He did struggle in the “mini gauntlet” drill they ran, and dropped two passes in a row.

Waldman's thoughts on Alexander from Day three:

…Learn how to use your hands WR Danario Alexander, Missouri: The physical dimensions, and skill after the catch is there for the Big-12 prospect. He is also willing to be a physical player. What he doesn’t do well is use his hands. He doesn’t keep his hands high in and out of breaks and he runs out of control, which makes him a less consistent performer than he should be as a route runner. In one-on-one drills against DBs to practice his work against the jam, Alexander repeatedly showed difficulty using his hands and long arms to his advantage, getting significantly thrown off course during his release or jammed to a literal standstill on several reps. The smaller Mardy Gilyard got thrown off course a few times on these reps and in 11-on-11’s, but he showed the speed and quickness to fight his way back into the play to get open and make a play on passes in his direction. Alexander lacks that kind of explosiveness as a bigger receiver. The potential is there, but he is not a guaranteed stud in the making.

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long strides mean he'll get tackled easier, he's not quick enough to beat the jam consistently, and he 'hears footsteps' when going over the middle on film.

If you want an injury plagued undrafted WR to look at, then look no further than Jeremy Williams (Chargers).

 
Cecil Lammey said:
Saw him at the Senior Bowl, the talent is there but the durability/strength is not.

Day one of practice:

Danario Alexander (Missouri) only stood out a couple of times to me today in practice. Once he high pointed a pass on the sidelines, and showed good body control by keeping both feet in bounds. He comes back to the football when the quarterback is in trouble, and he even dove on the ground to scoop in a low pass from Sean Canfield.

Day two of practice:

Danario Alexander(Missouri) showed good hands today, and was catching the ball with arms extended away from his body. I like his body control and ability to adjust to poorly thrown passes. He did struggle in the “mini gauntlet” drill they ran, and dropped two passes in a row.

Waldman's thoughts on Alexander from Day three:

…Learn how to use your hands WR Danario Alexander, Missouri: The physical dimensions, and skill after the catch is there for the Big-12 prospect. He is also willing to be a physical player. What he doesn’t do well is use his hands. He doesn’t keep his hands high in and out of breaks and he runs out of control, which makes him a less consistent performer than he should be as a route runner. In one-on-one drills against DBs to practice his work against the jam, Alexander repeatedly showed difficulty using his hands and long arms to his advantage, getting significantly thrown off course during his release or jammed to a literal standstill on several reps. The smaller Mardy Gilyard got thrown off course a few times on these reps and in 11-on-11’s, but he showed the speed and quickness to fight his way back into the play to get open and make a play on passes in his direction. Alexander lacks that kind of explosiveness as a bigger receiver. The potential is there, but he is not a guaranteed stud in the making.

OVERALL

long strides mean he'll get tackled easier, he's not quick enough to beat the jam consistently, and he 'hears footsteps' when going over the middle on film.

If you want an injury plagued undrafted WR to look at, then look no further than Jeremy Williams (Chargers).
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The long strides make him hard to catch. In open field, and on long runs, that is exactly how you're supposed to run. Short choppy strides are for underneath coverage and when they're putting the juke on..

Also, Many players have come out of college with injuries. You named one who has done nothing.. I agree the career may be shorter but there are many players in the NFL who have had major injuries or surgeries.. before and/or after the draft

The two who stand out in my mind the most are Micheal Bush and Willis McGahee..

Look at his playing time anyways. As far as I can tell, he missed 3 games over a 4 year college career, and didn't miss a game in '09'...

 
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Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Saw him at the Senior Bowl, the talent is there but the durability/strength is not.

Day one of practice:

Danario Alexander (Missouri) only stood out a couple of times to me today in practice. Once he high pointed a pass on the sidelines, and showed good body control by keeping both feet in bounds. He comes back to the football when the quarterback is in trouble, and he even dove on the ground to scoop in a low pass from Sean Canfield.

Day two of practice:

Danario Alexander(Missouri) showed good hands today, and was catching the ball with arms extended away from his body. I like his body control and ability to adjust to poorly thrown passes. He did struggle in the “mini gauntlet” drill they ran, and dropped two passes in a row.

Waldman's thoughts on Alexander from Day three:

…Learn how to use your hands WR Danario Alexander, Missouri: The physical dimensions, and skill after the catch is there for the Big-12 prospect. He is also willing to be a physical player. What he doesn’t do well is use his hands. He doesn’t keep his hands high in and out of breaks and he runs out of control, which makes him a less consistent performer than he should be as a route runner. In one-on-one drills against DBs to practice his work against the jam, Alexander repeatedly showed difficulty using his hands and long arms to his advantage, getting significantly thrown off course during his release or jammed to a literal standstill on several reps. The smaller Mardy Gilyard got thrown off course a few times on these reps and in 11-on-11’s, but he showed the speed and quickness to fight his way back into the play to get open and make a play on passes in his direction. Alexander lacks that kind of explosiveness as a bigger receiver. The potential is there, but he is not a guaranteed stud in the making.

OVERALL

long strides mean he'll get tackled easier, he's not quick enough to beat the jam consistently, and he 'hears footsteps' when going over the middle on film.

If you want an injury plagued undrafted WR to look at, then look no further than Jeremy Williams (Chargers).
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The long strides make him hard to catch. In open field, and on long runs, that is exactly how you're supposed to run. Short choppy strides are for underneath coverage and when they're putting the juke on..

Also, Many players have come out of college with injuries. You named one who has done nothing.. I agree the career may be shorter but there are many players in the NFL who have had major injuries or surgeries.. before and/or after the draft

The two who stand out in my mind the most are Micheal Bush and Willis McGahee..

Look at his playing time anyways. As far as I can tell, he missed 3 games over a 4 year college career, and didn't miss a game in '09'...
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:2cents: I have nearly every single game of Alexander's on tape (in addition to watching him up close on field level) and yes - he was ultra productive, but that doesn't automatically translate into future NFL stardom.

Difficult to get into your route (and your long strides) when you don't have the proper ferocity to beat the jam, and lacks quick twitch explosion off the line of scrimmage. He also rounds off his routes.

Lack of explosion, quickness, and rounded routes = can't get open in the pros.

forget the numbers, the system he played in (and the defenses he played against) caused his stats to be inflated.

Love his size and ability to make circus catches, but don't think he'll do much as a pro.

In the end, we're debating a player only worth rostering in ultra deep leagues - I'm saying someone like Williams or Seyi Ajirotutu (who I saw during the week of practice at the Shrine Game this year) are better long shots than Alexander.

 
Cecil Lammey said:
Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Saw him at the Senior Bowl, the talent is there but the durability/strength is not.

Day one of practice:

Danario Alexander (Missouri) only stood out a couple of times to me today in practice. Once he high pointed a pass on the sidelines, and showed good body control by keeping both feet in bounds. He comes back to the football when the quarterback is in trouble, and he even dove on the ground to scoop in a low pass from Sean Canfield.

Day two of practice:

Danario Alexander(Missouri) showed good hands today, and was catching the ball with arms extended away from his body. I like his body control and ability to adjust to poorly thrown passes. He did struggle in the “mini gauntlet” drill they ran, and dropped two passes in a row.

Waldman's thoughts on Alexander from Day three:

…Learn how to use your hands WR Danario Alexander, Missouri: The physical dimensions, and skill after the catch is there for the Big-12 prospect. He is also willing to be a physical player. What he doesn’t do well is use his hands. He doesn’t keep his hands high in and out of breaks and he runs out of control, which makes him a less consistent performer than he should be as a route runner. In one-on-one drills against DBs to practice his work against the jam, Alexander repeatedly showed difficulty using his hands and long arms to his advantage, getting significantly thrown off course during his release or jammed to a literal standstill on several reps. The smaller Mardy Gilyard got thrown off course a few times on these reps and in 11-on-11’s, but he showed the speed and quickness to fight his way back into the play to get open and make a play on passes in his direction. Alexander lacks that kind of explosiveness as a bigger receiver. The potential is there, but he is not a guaranteed stud in the making.

OVERALL

long strides mean he'll get tackled easier, he's not quick enough to beat the jam consistently, and he 'hears footsteps' when going over the middle on film.

If you want an injury plagued undrafted WR to look at, then look no further than Jeremy Williams (Chargers).
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The long strides make him hard to catch. In open field, and on long runs, that is exactly how you're supposed to run. Short choppy strides are for underneath coverage and when they're putting the juke on..

Also, Many players have come out of college with injuries. You named one who has done nothing.. I agree the career may be shorter but there are many players in the NFL who have had major injuries or surgeries.. before and/or after the draft

The two who stand out in my mind the most are Micheal Bush and Willis McGahee..

Look at his playing time anyways. As far as I can tell, he missed 3 games over a 4 year college career, and didn't miss a game in '09'...
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:boxing: I have nearly every single game of Alexander's on tape (in addition to watching him up close on field level) and yes - he was ultra productive, but that doesn't automatically translate into future NFL stardom.

Difficult to get into your route (and your long strides) when you don't have the proper ferocity to beat the jam, and lacks quick twitch explosion off the line of scrimmage. He also rounds off his routes.

Lack of explosion, quickness, and rounded routes = can't get open in the pros.

forget the numbers, the system he played in (and the defenses he played against) caused his stats to be inflated.

Love his size and ability to make circus catches, but don't think he'll do much as a pro.

In the end, we're debating a player only worth rostering in ultra deep leagues - I'm saying someone like Williams or Seyi Ajirotutu (who I saw during the week of practice at the Shrine Game this year) are better long shots than Alexander.
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If you weren't, this wouldn't be FBG :goodposting:
 
Looks like James Hardy part deux, only Danario's knee is even worse. I'm not wasting any spots on him. Cecil summed up his game nicely.

 
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Carolina Hustler said:
The long strides make him hard to catch. In open field, and on long runs, that is exactly how you're supposed to run. Short choppy strides are for underneath coverage and when they're putting the juke on..Also, Many players have come out of college with injuries. You named one who has done nothing.. I agree the career may be shorter but there are many players in the NFL who have had major injuries or surgeries.. before and/or after the draftThe two who stand out in my mind the most are Micheal Bush and Willis McGahee..
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But both McGahee and Bush were drafted, so teams were willing to bet on them recovering because they believed they had had big time talent. I kind of like Alexander and am curious to see where he goes, in the right situation I think he could have a shot at becoming fantasy relevant, but I wouldn't equate his situation to Bush or McGahee or he would have went in the first four rounds despite the injury IMO.
 
finito said:
Carolina Hustler said:
The long strides make him hard to catch. In open field, and on long runs, that is exactly how you're supposed to run. Short choppy strides are for underneath coverage and when they're putting the juke on..Also, Many players have come out of college with injuries. You named one who has done nothing.. I agree the career may be shorter but there are many players in the NFL who have had major injuries or surgeries.. before and/or after the draftThe two who stand out in my mind the most are Micheal Bush and Willis McGahee..
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But both McGahee and Bush were drafted, so teams were willing to bet on them recovering because they believed they had had big time talent. I kind of like Alexander and am curious to see where he goes, in the right situation I think he could have a shot at becoming fantasy relevant, but I wouldn't equate his situation to Bush or McGahee or he would have went in the first four rounds despite the injury IMO.
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I wasn't equating Alexander to them. I was pointing out that just because he's coming into the league injured, or coming out of surgery, doesn't mean he's kin to the only other injured player Cecil mentioned. each player builds his own destiny, you can't make one player fill another's mold.And in regard to his abilities:- He has speed, you can't teach speed- He has size, you can't teach size- He has great hands, you can't teach hands- He has great ball tracking skills- He has great timing- He has the ability to come down with the ball in traffic (my ball mentality)Cecil says:- But he doesn't run great routes,... you CAN teach route running- But he has trouble getting trough jambs on the line,... I disagree, I've seen a few of his games last season and he looked to be a lot more physical then in previous seasons. And if even he was having trouble there, thats not a hard one to teach either.- His long strides, now thats not an easy one to fix, but it's not the worst trait in the world either. Most times, leg strength is a factor and that is obviously something he can control.I'm not saying he's going to be the next great producer. But the kid does have talent, that is obvious. He wouldn't be the first kids someone at FBG missed on...
 
Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil says:- But he doesn't run great routes,... you CAN teach route running- But he has trouble getting trough jambs on the line,... I disagree, I've seen a few of his games last season and he looked to be a lot more physical then in previous seasons. And if even he was having trouble there, thats not a hard one to teach either.- His long strides, now thats not an easy one to fix, but it's not the worst trait in the world either. Most times, leg strength is a factor and that is obviously something he can control.I'm not saying he's going to be the next great producer. But the kid does have talent, that is obvious. He wouldn't be the first kids someone at FBG missed on...
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I think it's dangerous to oversimplify how difficult it is to play in the pros by stating 'you can teach that.'It's obvious that you're a fan of his game, and that's cool. My opinion is different. Through extensive film study of almost every snap in his college career (and not YouTube highlights), plus in talking to people from the scouting community, I can firmly state that he doesn't have the explosion/burst/quickness of a star receiver at the pro level. Plenty of ultra-productive players in college football don't make it to stardom as pros. Am I going to be correct on every player? No. But I will study more games on tape than most anyone else in the media, and work hard to really know a player's game. I am simply stating what I see from Alexander.
 
Cecil Lammey said:
Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil says:- But he doesn't run great routes,... you CAN teach route running- But he has trouble getting trough jambs on the line,... I disagree, I've seen a few of his games last season and he looked to be a lot more physical then in previous seasons. And if even he was having trouble there, thats not a hard one to teach either.- His long strides, now thats not an easy one to fix, but it's not the worst trait in the world either. Most times, leg strength is a factor and that is obviously something he can control.I'm not saying he's going to be the next great producer. But the kid does have talent, that is obvious. He wouldn't be the first kids someone at FBG missed on...
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I think it's dangerous to oversimplify how difficult it is to play in the pros by stating 'you can teach that.'It's obvious that you're a fan of his game, and that's cool. My opinion is different. Through extensive film study of almost every snap in his college career (and not YouTube highlights), plus in talking to people from the scouting community, I can firmly state that he doesn't have the explosion/burst/quickness of a star receiver at the pro level. Plenty of ultra-productive players in college football don't make it to stardom as pros. Am I going to be correct on every player? No. But I will study more games on tape than most anyone else in the media, and work hard to really know a player's game. I am simply stating what I see from Alexander.
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Each player coming in has some knock against him.. Name a player and I could pull at least a paragraph of down side on him. Very few players come in with a complete game, and many come in with the same problems you're listing for Alexander. Route running is probably the the most common problem needing fixed with WR's coming into the league. Any WR after the first round is going to have questions about either his vision, his hands, or his burst....Alexander was projected as a middle round pick until he missed the combine with his 4th knee surgery. There are several players that would have been drafted behind him that are currently on dynasty rosters. And if all the scouts agreed with you, I doubt he could have graded out as a mid round pick...Middle Rounds:round 313 (77) Titans Williams, Damian WR14 (78) Panthers LaFell, Brandon WR18 (82) Steelers Sanders, Emmanuel WR20 (84) Bengals Shipley, Jordan WR23 (87) Broncos (From Eagles) Decker, Eric WR24 (88) Cardinals (From Ravens) Roberts, Andre WR26 (90) Patriots (From Cowboys) Price, Taylor WRround 41 (99) Rams Gilyard, Mardy WR3 (101) Buccaneers Williams, Mike WR9 (107) Bills Easley, Marcus WR10 (108) Raiders (From Jaguars ) Ford, Jacoby WRround 528 (159) Eagles (From Chargers) Cooper, Riley WR34 (165) Falcons (Compensatory selection) Meier, Kerry WR25 (156) Ravens Reed, David WRSomewhere in there is where he would have been drafted. And you can eliminate about half of those guys based on being drafted for special teams play. Alexander isn't really built for that.
 
Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil says:- But he doesn't run great routes,... you CAN teach route running- But he has trouble getting trough jambs on the line,... I disagree, I've seen a few of his games last season and he looked to be a lot more physical then in previous seasons. And if even he was having trouble there, thats not a hard one to teach either.- His long strides, now thats not an easy one to fix, but it's not the worst trait in the world either. Most times, leg strength is a factor and that is obviously something he can control.I'm not saying he's going to be the next great producer. But the kid does have talent, that is obvious. He wouldn't be the first kids someone at FBG missed on...
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I think it's dangerous to oversimplify how difficult it is to play in the pros by stating 'you can teach that.'It's obvious that you're a fan of his game, and that's cool. My opinion is different. Through extensive film study of almost every snap in his college career (and not YouTube highlights), plus in talking to people from the scouting community, I can firmly state that he doesn't have the explosion/burst/quickness of a star receiver at the pro level. Plenty of ultra-productive players in college football don't make it to stardom as pros. Am I going to be correct on every player? No. But I will study more games on tape than most anyone else in the media, and work hard to really know a player's game. I am simply stating what I see from Alexander.
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Each player coming in has some knock against him.. Name a player and I could pull at least a paragraph of down side on him. Very few players come in with a complete game, and many come in with the same problems you're listing for Alexander. Route running is probably the the most common problem needing fixed with WR's coming into the league. Any WR after the first round is going to have questions about either his vision, his hands, or his burst....Alexander was projected as a middle round pick until he missed the combine with his 4th knee surgery. There are several players that would have been drafted behind him that are currently on dynasty rosters. And if all the scouts agreed with you, I doubt he could have graded out as a mid round pick...Middle Rounds:round 313 (77) Titans Williams, Damian WR14 (78) Panthers LaFell, Brandon WR18 (82) Steelers Sanders, Emmanuel WR20 (84) Bengals Shipley, Jordan WR23 (87) Broncos (From Eagles) Decker, Eric WR24 (88) Cardinals (From Ravens) Roberts, Andre WR26 (90) Patriots (From Cowboys) Price, Taylor WRround 41 (99) Rams Gilyard, Mardy WR3 (101) Buccaneers Williams, Mike WR9 (107) Bills Easley, Marcus WR10 (108) Raiders (From Jaguars ) Ford, Jacoby WRround 528 (159) Eagles (From Chargers) Cooper, Riley WR34 (165) Falcons (Compensatory selection) Meier, Kerry WR25 (156) Ravens Reed, David WRSomewhere in there is where he would have been drafted. And you can eliminate about half of those guys based on being drafted for special teams play. Alexander isn't really built for that.
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I think many are missing the boat on Alexander, but that is besides the point...updated Pro Day info per Spoon's tweet.4.44 40 yd dash and 41.5 inch verticalI have heard he has a physical scheduled on Monday at Ram's Park...KC apparently didn't think he was worth the effort, Piolis said yesterday on the radio in KC that they Chiefs had no interest in him.
 
St. Louis Rams and Adam Caplan confirm that Alexander is a Ram.

Good signing since he's got physical potential and is also a Mizzou grad, which means the locals will have an instant man-crush.

 
MAC_32 said:
If he gets signed somewhere how long does it usually take MFL to get players loaded? I wanted to draft him, but our league only allows for players on MFL. I just want to be the 1st to him when he gets on there.Dude could be great if healthy.
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Bump?
 
MAC_32 said:
MAC_32 said:
If he gets signed somewhere how long does it usually take MFL to get players loaded? I wanted to draft him, but our league only allows for players on MFL. I just want to be the 1st to him when he gets on there.Dude could be great if healthy.
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What we do in the Hyper Leagues is take some guy off the WW that will never have any value and then put a note in the message board that the player is a marker for a player like Alexander. For example, once DA started working out with teams I took Shaun Alexander and said it was a place holder for Danario. Now that DA has a team, he can be swapped for SA.
 
This signing is going way under the radar IMHO. Dynasty guys should snap this guy up. I realize his knee could be junk, but what better player to have at the end of a dynasty bench? Young franchise QB who is familiar with him, sub-par WR competition for a role, and ridiculous measurables and college production.

 
BigJim® said:
This signing is going way under the radar IMHO. Dynasty guys should snap this guy up. I realize his knee could be junk, but what better player to have at the end of a dynasty bench? Young franchise QB who is familiar with him, sub-par WR competition for a role, and ridiculous measurables and college production.
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He was snatched in some of my leagues back in May/June with a placeholder. Usually, I don't pay all that much attention to those, because they almost never pan out (usually it's a homer type pick). But after the Rams signing, he likely went in any league where he was still available (I got him in a few places this morning, but missed him in others.)
 
loose circuits said:
he's in the system now
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I found both him and Cruz first thing in the morning after Alexander's signing and Cruz's breakout game, they must process new players over night sometime.I got him in my one dyno with first come, first served activated. My claim is placed in another league, waivers clear Sep 1.
 
Doesn't this kid become a ton more interesting with Avery looking like he could be out for the year? Who the heck else do they even have there?

 
Otis said:
Doesn't this kid become a ton more interesting with Avery looking like he could be out for the year? Who the heck else do they even have there?
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I think his whole signing is strange. The fact that he signed so late makes me think that they have no plans for him this year. He didn't record a catch yesterday (although I'm not sure if he played or not).I really don't know what to expect out of him. I read one St. Louis camp observer that said something along the lines of "there were two playmakers on the team yesterday (S.Jackson and Onobon), and today there are three."But outside of that, I haven't heard a thing.I wonder if they'll say that his knee isn't quite ready, put him on IR and "redshirt" him. An interesting stash in dynasty leagues though.
 
Doesn't this kid become a ton more interesting with Avery looking like he could be out for the year? Who the heck else do they even have there?
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I think his whole signing is strange. The fact that he signed so late makes me think that they have no plans for him this year. He didn't record a catch yesterday (although I'm not sure if he played or not).I really don't know what to expect out of him. I read one St. Louis camp observer that said something along the lines of "there were two playmakers on the team yesterday (S.Jackson and Onon), and today there are three."But outside of that, I haven't heard a thing.I wonder if they'll say that his knee isn't quite ready, put him on IR and "redshirt" him. An interesting stash in dynasty leagues though.
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It makes perfect sense. He was injured and they were waiting to see who the injury was healing. He has a ton of catch-up to play, but Bradford looked awful sharp last night for a rookie, and he'll need weapons.
Alexander gets NFL job, plays catch-up with RamsBy R.B. FALLSTROM (AP) – 3 days agoST. LOUIS — Four months after the draft when he was injured and ignored, former Missouri star Danario Alexander finally signed with an NFL team.Now, he's got a new challenge: learning the playbook.The 6-foot-5, 215-pound Alexander has the size the St. Louis Rams lack at wide receiver to go with sure hands and speed that outran Big 12 defenses in a dazzling senior season. But judging from his first practice on Monday, it might be a while before he's ready for game day.Wide receivers coach Nolan Cromwell was hands-on making corrections, and Alexander vowed to work long hours learning."I'll be here early and late trying to get everything together," Alexander said. "I'll be in my playbook as soon as I get back home. I'm playing the catch-up game now."Alexander was a second-team All-American his senior season with 113 receptions for 1,781 yards and 14 touchdowns, emerging after three surgeries on his left knee. He required a fourth surgery after getting hurt in practice before the Senior Bowl in January and was on crutches at the NFL Combine, leading to a lonely draft experience."It was frustrating at the beginning, watching the draft and seeing all my friends get drafted. But I had to get my mind set. I had to get down to the issue and rehab every day to get to this point where I'm at right now."The Rams have a glaring need for wide receivers and gave Alexander a tryout in early August, but thought the knee needed more time."They wanted me to go get a little bit more rehab and be more game ready, practice ready," Alexander said. "So that's what I did and they made the call."After three weeks of rehab and getting into football condition, the Rams signed him."We always had him on the radar," coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "It was just a matter of him getting healthy, and the right fit."We just decided to do it, see what we could find out about him in the next couple of weeks and then make a decision from there."Landing with the Rams, whose training facility is about 100 miles east of Faurot Field in Columbia, Mo., where Alexander excelled as a senior, was a plus."The fans, the state, they all embrace me," Alexander said. "They were all pulling for me to sign with the Rams and I'm pretty excited about it."Alexander said he got a congratulatory text message from Missouri coach Gary Pinkel and was planning on speaking with the coach later in the day.Alexander wore a brace on his left knee at practice, but said the knee felt "pretty good.""The doctor said his knee looked pretty good and he feels good," Spagnuolo said. "So the only way to really tell is to get him out there."Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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This guy has the same hype around here as Jarrett Dillard did last year.

There's a reason Jarrett Dillard dropped to day two last year and a reason every passed on Alexander for months. I understand he could be great like anyone could be great, but only the deepest of leagues need to take notice of him.

 
Adam Caplan from Fox reports:

@caplannfl: To give you an idea of how talented Danario Alexander is, I was told by a scout at the Senior Bowl that he was a "Calvin Johnson clone."

by FOXSports

The St. Louis Rams will sign former University Missouri WR Danario Alexander (6-5, 218) off their practice squad sometime this week, a source told FOXSports.com.

The highly touted receiver had multiple surgeries on his left knee since 2007, and as a result, was not selected in the 2010 NFL Draft.

However, Alexander had an amazing workout for NFL teams in Houston prior to his signing with the Rams back on Aug. 22.

He posted a solid 4.46 40-yard dash time (on field turf). Any posted time of better than 4.5 for a player of his size is considered to be very good in scouting circles. Alexander also posted a 4.12 in the short shuttle. This drill is used to determine short area quickness. To get an idea of how good his time was, former California RB Jahvid Best (selected in the first round by the Detroit Lions) posted times of 4.17 and 4.18 during the NFL Combine. Alexander also posted an outstanding 411/2-inch vertical jump. A vertical jump demonstrates lower body explosion. It also shows he was able to push off his surgically repaired left knee.

Because Alexander showed no issues with his left knee in practice, the team felt he would be able to contribute this season instead of just bringing him along slowly and waiting until next year to get him on the field.

 
As a Mizzou and Rams homer, I'm torn here. The guy is still wearing a brace and has said he's not 100%, so the Mizzou fan in me is fearing that this guy's NFL career will be over before it starts. The Rams fan in me says he's got to be better than Gillyard...

 
TheFanatic said:
As a Mizzou and Rams homer, I'm torn here. The guy is still wearing a brace and has said he's not 100%, so the Mizzou fan in me is fearing that this guy's NFL career will be over before it starts. The Rams fan in me says he's got to be better than Gillyard...
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They see something to give him a 35K bonus and a 4 year deal. They could have went the waiver route.
 
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JohnnyRoyal said:
TheFanatic said:
As a Mizzou and Rams homer, I'm torn here. The guy is still wearing a brace and has said he's not 100%, so the Mizzou fan in me is fearing that this guy's NFL career will be over before it starts. The Rams fan in me says he's got to be better than Gillyard...
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They see something to give him a bonus a a 4 year deal. They could have went the waiver route.
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Which is why they basically redshirted the guy. They wanted him on the practice squad rehabbing with their trainers and give him plenty of time to get healthy, but now, they say he's 100% and good to go? It might be a short term boon for a long term injury bust...
 
TheFanatic said:
JohnnyRoyal said:
TheFanatic said:
As a Mizzou and Rams homer, I'm torn here. The guy is still wearing a brace and has said he's not 100%, so the Mizzou fan in me is fearing that this guy's NFL career will be over before it starts. The Rams fan in me says he's got to be better than Gillyard...
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They see something to give him a bonus a a 4 year deal. They could have went the waiver route.
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Which is why they basically redshirted the guy. They wanted him on the practice squad rehabbing with their trainers and give him plenty of time to get healthy, but now, they say he's 100% and good to go? It might be a short term boon for a long term injury bust...
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It's hard to say, but I'd rather see him flash some potential in meaningful games than sit out a year and have them draft a WR or sign a big money free agent and watch him get shuffled out of the league without much opportunity. The opportunity is there, if he is healthy enough to go to the active roster, so be it and let the chips fall where they may.
 
B. Nugget said:
TheFanatic said:
JohnnyRoyal said:
TheFanatic said:
As a Mizzou and Rams homer, I'm torn here. The guy is still wearing a brace and has said he's not 100%, so the Mizzou fan in me is fearing that this guy's NFL career will be over before it starts. The Rams fan in me says he's got to be better than Gillyard...
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They see something to give him a bonus a a 4 year deal. They could have went the waiver route.
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Which is why they basically redshirted the guy. They wanted him on the practice squad rehabbing with their trainers and give him plenty of time to get healthy, but now, they say he's 100% and good to go? It might be a short term boon for a long term injury bust...
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It's hard to say, but I'd rather see him flash some potential in meaningful games than sit out a year and have them draft a WR or sign a big money free agent and watch him get shuffled out of the league without much opportunity. The opportunity is there, if he is healthy enough to go to the active roster, so be it and let the chips fall where they may.
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Well said
 
If he is healthy which I doubt...this could be a large piece of the puzzle. Would have loved to see him and Clayton on the field together...maybe next year.

 
Cecil Lammey said:
Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil says:- But he doesn't run great routes,... you CAN teach route running- But he has trouble getting trough jambs on the line,... I disagree, I've seen a few of his games last season and he looked to be a lot more physical then in previous seasons. And if even he was having trouble there, thats not a hard one to teach either.- His long strides, now thats not an easy one to fix, but it's not the worst trait in the world either. Most times, leg strength is a factor and that is obviously something he can control.I'm not saying he's going to be the next great producer. But the kid does have talent, that is obvious. He wouldn't be the first kids someone at FBG missed on...
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I think it's dangerous to oversimplify how difficult it is to play in the pros by stating 'you can teach that.'It's obvious that you're a fan of his game, and that's cool. My opinion is different. Through extensive film study of almost every snap in his college career (and not YouTube highlights), plus in talking to people from the scouting community, I can firmly state that he doesn't have the explosion/burst/quickness of a star receiver at the pro level. Plenty of ultra-productive players in college football don't make it to stardom as pros. Am I going to be correct on every player? No. But I will study more games on tape than most anyone else in the media, and work hard to really know a player's game. I am simply stating what I see from Alexander.
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Always appreciate your player evaluation Cecil mainly because you do seem to put so much time and effort into it. I was curious how you rated Stephen Williams and David Gettis prior to the season, did you have either of them as guys that would make teams and possibly even play this year? I am only asking as I didn't see either of these guys getting tons of hype, and here they both are playing on Sunday. Both are bigger guys that may have had long strides and I think these long strider's have less explosion because of that very fact, they take a few strides to get into full gear where as the short choppy steppers seem to be much more explosive off the line.
 
Love this development. There was a different thread last night and I was susrprised by the level of skepticism. His knees are a huge question mark, no question. However, I'd say his knees were a far bigger question mark heading into his last season at Mizzu coming off a 2nd ACL, and he led the NCAA in receiving yards with 1781. Since then, he had another procedure following a senior bowl injury but nothing like an ACL repair. He's passed a physical with an NFL team, put up big measurables in a workout, and impressed the team in practice enough to promote him from the practice squad at a time of need. IMHO he could not have a better situation than being added to a WR deprived team, with a franchise QB, and proven productivity in college. He's a great 'grab for free and stash' for dynasty leagues. God knows teams are holding a lot of WRs who never approached Alexander's college production, and are significant NFL longshots. Alexander is better than that, even with knee concerns.

 
DesmondBishop said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Carolina Hustler said:
Cecil says:- But he doesn't run great routes,... you CAN teach route running- But he has trouble getting trough jambs on the line,... I disagree, I've seen a few of his games last season and he looked to be a lot more physical then in previous seasons. And if even he was having trouble there, thats not a hard one to teach either.- His long strides, now thats not an easy one to fix, but it's not the worst trait in the world either. Most times, leg strength is a factor and that is obviously something he can control.I'm not saying he's going to be the next great producer. But the kid does have talent, that is obvious. He wouldn't be the first kids someone at FBG missed on...
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I think it's dangerous to oversimplify how difficult it is to play in the pros by stating 'you can teach that.'It's obvious that you're a fan of his game, and that's cool. My opinion is different. Through extensive film study of almost every snap in his college career (and not YouTube highlights), plus in talking to people from the scouting community, I can firmly state that he doesn't have the explosion/burst/quickness of a star receiver at the pro level. Plenty of ultra-productive players in college football don't make it to stardom as pros. Am I going to be correct on every player? No. But I will study more games on tape than most anyone else in the media, and work hard to really know a player's game. I am simply stating what I see from Alexander.
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Always appreciate your player evaluation Cecil mainly because you do seem to put so much time and effort into it. I was curious how you rated Stephen Williams and David Gettis prior to the season, did you have either of them as guys that would make teams and possibly even play this year? I am only asking as I didn't see either of these guys getting tons of hype, and here they both are playing on Sunday. Both are bigger guys that may have had long strides and I think these long strider's have less explosion because of that very fact, they take a few strides to get into full gear where as the short choppy steppers seem to be much more explosive off the line.
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Gettis I watched up close during the week of practice for the Texas vs The Nation Game earlier this year in El Paso. He rarely dropped a pass in practice but had a habit of body catching everything. He would even jump to catch passes in his gut rather than extend his arms. Coaches were working with him all week and by the third day he was showing improvement. Great size/speed combination and knows how to use his big frame to get open. Still quite raw though.Williams was a guy I talked about briefly on The Audible before the draft because former All-Pro Alfred Williams and I had a conversation about him around that time. Williams can take over a game and is always looking to make a big play. His concentration can go in and out because he'll think about running before securing the pass but I love his mentality.
 
JohnnyRoyal said:
Adam Caplan from Fox reports:@caplannfl: To give you an idea of how talented Danario Alexander is, I was told by a scout at the Senior Bowl that he was a "Calvin Johnson clone."by FOXSportsThe St. Louis Rams will sign former University Missouri WR Danario Alexander (6-5, 218) off their practice squad sometime this week, a source told FOXSports.com. The highly touted receiver had multiple surgeries on his left knee since 2007, and as a result, was not selected in the 2010 NFL Draft.However, Alexander had an amazing workout for NFL teams in Houston prior to his signing with the Rams back on Aug. 22.He posted a solid 4.46 40-yard dash time (on field turf). Any posted time of better than 4.5 for a player of his size is considered to be very good in scouting circles. Alexander also posted a 4.12 in the short shuttle. This drill is used to determine short area quickness. To get an idea of how good his time was, former California RB Jahvid Best (selected in the first round by the Detroit Lions) posted times of 4.17 and 4.18 during the NFL Combine. Alexander also posted an outstanding 411/2-inch vertical jump. A vertical jump demonstrates lower body explosion. It also shows he was able to push off his surgically repaired left knee.Because Alexander showed no issues with his left knee in practice, the team felt he would be able to contribute this season instead of just bringing him along slowly and waiting until next year to get him on the field.
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Blackdot and droolSo stoked to see what this guy can do with Bradford throwing to him.
 
TheFanatic said:
As a Mizzou and Rams homer, I'm torn here. The guy is still wearing a brace and has said he's not 100%, so the Mizzou fan in me is fearing that this guy's NFL career will be over before it starts. The Rams fan in me says he's got to be better than Gillyard...
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As an outsider, I love this move Bradford was making the mediocre Mark Clayton look really good. Now take a guy with superior physical tools and who dominated in college. The potential here is off the charts. Bradford needs the weapons and if I'm a Rams fan I'm liking getting this kid the experience now and getting him in early to develop alongside Bradford.
 
I can't believe there's not more discussion of this. Am I the only one who is this excited? There's so much talk about so many mediocre players out there, how are we ignoring someone who has such ridiculous upside?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5678915

ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Rams promoted wide receiver Danario Alexander from the practice squad to the active roster to replace injured Mark Clayton.

Alexander was a star at Missouri last season but wasn't drafted after undergoing a fourth operation on his left knee in February. When the Rams signed him in August, Alexander said he was still rehabbing the knee.
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Otis said:
Another note:

Interestingly, Alexander was signed to a four-year contract, with a modest signing bonus of around $35,000. As such, the Rams treated him as if he were a draft pick, albeit a low-round draft pick.
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/pr...d09b88047b.html
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Otis, there is no doubt he could be a stud, but you just don't know how much the injuries have affected his speed, he didn't lose his size and super-human leaping ability. Remember, if he hadn't got hurt, Maclin might have spent an extra year or two in college. There were too many good WRs on that team with Chase Coffman, T-Rucker, Will Franlin, Danario, Jared Perry, Tommy Saunders...all were in NFL camps following their college careers for Maclin to get the same kind of exposure without the opportunity that DA's broken wrist created in the 2nd half of game 1 in 2007.

 
Otis said:
I can't believe there's not more discussion of this. Am I the only one who is this excited? There's so much talk about so many mediocre players out there, how are we ignoring someone who has such ridiculous upside?
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Seems like a very Knee Jerk reaction. I kid, I kid. It had to be said given we are talking about a STL WR. Seriously, I think they guy has a ton of talent and if you can get him for free in a dynasty, go for it. I just cut Max Komar for him. Why not? The upside is tremendous. Worst case- he tears his knee again in practice or a game and I drop him. Best case - he catches on, I start him for a week or two and get decent results, then I sell him as soon as I find a taker before the knee blows up. Very low risk.

I have a feeling he will fall somewhere in the middle of both scenarios and be a fantasy non-factor who I end up wasting a roster spot on for longer than necessary. Just my :lmao:

 
B. Nugget said:
Otis said:
Another note:

Interestingly, Alexander was signed to a four-year contract, with a modest signing bonus of around $35,000. As such, the Rams treated him as if he were a draft pick, albeit a low-round draft pick.
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/pr...d09b88047b.html
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Otis, there is no doubt he could be a stud, but you just don't know how much the injuries have affected his speed, he didn't lose his size and super-human leaping ability.
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Reportedly he ran a 4.46 and eye opening 4.12 short shuttle (compare to J.Best who had a 4.17 short shuttle) at his workout, in addition to the 41+ vertical. Seems like his speed was evident in his workout.
 
From Twitter: Tom Ackerman Sports Director, KMOX (1120 AM) Just saw Rams WR Donnie Avery, who is recovering from knee surgery. Tells me Danario Alexander (knee) recently beat M.Gilyard in a footrace.

 
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jmo87usc said:
Otis said:
I can't believe there's not more discussion of this. Am I the only one who is this excited? There's so much talk about so many mediocre players out there, how are we ignoring someone who has such ridiculous upside?
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Seems like a very Knee Jerk reaction. I kid, I kid. It had to be said given we are talking about a STL WR. Seriously, I think they guy has a ton of talent and if you can get him for free in a dynasty, go for it. I just cut Max Komar for him. Why not? The upside is tremendous. Worst case- he tears his knee again in practice or a game and I drop him. Best case - he catches on, I start him for a week or two and get decent results, then I sell him as soon as I find a taker before the knee blows up. Very low risk.

I have a feeling he will fall somewhere in the middle of both scenarios and be a fantasy non-factor who I end up wasting a roster spot on for longer than necessary. Just my :P
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Him being a STL WR is not a limitation at all. Clayton was around a top-10 WR in standard scoring before he went out for the season. After he went out, Bradford threw 12 completions to Amendola. There is absolutely tons of opportunity for someone here, especially someone with superior physical traits like DA.I see only opportunity here. I remember Boldin's rookie season. He stepped into a team with a mediocre quarterback and no other solid WR options and had one of the most dominating rookie WR seasons ever (aside from maybe only Randy Moss?). In STL now we are talking about a QB with laser accuracy in Bradford. Yes he's a rookie, but he's looked fantastic and helped make that team competitive.

The injury concerns are always concerns, but Frank Gore also dominated in college and then slipped a bunch in the NFL draft based on his injuries. Nobody believed in him either. He's been a top RB in the league for years now.

This is to me one of the most intriguing fantasy prospects in the NFL right now. It's certainly a ton more interesting to me than the guys who are getting all the hype on the waiver wire in recent weeks. Most of those guys will at best turn out to be a WR4 on a good day. Depending on his progress in terms of healing and learning the playbook over the past 6 weeks, I think Alexander has the potential to quickly become the top receiving threat in STL and potentially a top-20 fantasy WR on a weekly basis (if not better).

 
JohnnyRoyal said:
From Twitter: Tom Ackerman Sports Director, KMOX (1120 AM) Just saw Rams WR Donnie Avery, who is recovering from knee surgery. Tells me Danario Alexander (knee) recently beat M.Gilyard in a footrace.
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Gilyard ran a 4.56 at the combine FWIW. Not scorching speed by any means, but if Alexander beat him it's a good sign.
 
Otis said:
jmo87usc said:
Otis said:
I can't believe there's not more discussion of this. Am I the only one who is this excited? There's so much talk about so many mediocre players out there, how are we ignoring someone who has such ridiculous upside?
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Seems like a very Knee Jerk reaction. I kid, I kid. It had to be said given we are talking about a STL WR. Seriously, I think they guy has a ton of talent and if you can get him for free in a dynasty, go for it. I just cut Max Komar for him. Why not? The upside is tremendous. Worst case- he tears his knee again in practice or a game and I drop him. Best case - he catches on, I start him for a week or two and get decent results, then I sell him as soon as I find a taker before the knee blows up. Very low risk.

I have a feeling he will fall somewhere in the middle of both scenarios and be a fantasy non-factor who I end up wasting a roster spot on for longer than necessary. Just my :2cents:
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Him being a STL WR is not a limitation at all. Clayton was around a top-10 WR in standard scoring before he went out for the season. After he went out, Bradford threw 12 completions to Amendola. There is absolutely tons of opportunity for someone here, especially someone with superior physical traits like DA.I see only opportunity here. I remember Boldin's rookie season. He stepped into a team with a mediocre quarterback and no other solid WR options and had one of the most dominating rookie WR seasons ever (aside from maybe only Randy Moss?). In STL now we are talking about a QB with laser accuracy in Bradford. Yes he's a rookie, but he's looked fantastic and helped make that team competitive.

The injury concerns are always concerns, but Frank Gore also dominated in college and then slipped a bunch in the NFL draft based on his injuries. Nobody believed in him either. He's been a top RB in the league for years now.

This is to me one of the most intriguing fantasy prospects in the NFL right now. It's certainly a ton more interesting to me than the guys who are getting all the hype on the waiver wire in recent weeks. Most of those guys will at best turn out to be a WR4 on a good day. Depending on his progress in terms of healing and learning the playbook over the past 6 weeks, I think Alexander has the potential to quickly become the top receiving threat in STL and potentially a top-20 fantasy WR on a weekly basis (if not better).
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:shrug: That's how I see it too. Sure, there are concerns but who would you rather have as the WR at the end of your dynasty bench?

 
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